tippmann guns
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Topic: tippmann guns
Posted By: felix
Subject: tippmann guns
Date Posted: 03 April 2005 at 8:55am
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tippmann guns are really bad. If you are new to paintball, do not get confused and get a tippmann. These guns are over priced and for $200 you can get something better. The tippmann gun stock sucks and you have to pay a lot more to upgrade it. By the time you upgrade your gun to the max, it could be around $800. For $800 you can get another gun that can rape the 98 custom. I think that it is a smart choice to choose another gun (that is electric) and get something better. ------------- 
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Posted By: pachnerg
Date Posted: 03 April 2005 at 8:58am
I agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------- b2k4 w/ pds Evil Pipe Kit extreme rage clamping feed neck Halobw/rip drive crossfire 68/4500 Nox Board Dye sticky 3s cp shorty reg ebay valve |
Posted By: Dan db09
Date Posted: 03 April 2005 at 8:59am
Pachnerg..... Take a look at your sig
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Posted By: pachnerg
Date Posted: 03 April 2005 at 9:04am
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You wonder why im getting a b2k5? ------------- b2k4 w/ pds Evil Pipe Kit extreme rage clamping feed neck Halobw/rip drive crossfire 68/4500 Nox Board Dye sticky 3s cp shorty reg ebay valve |
Posted By: Dan db09
Date Posted: 03 April 2005 at 9:05am
| If you think they suck why did you buy one? |
Posted By: pachnerg
Date Posted: 03 April 2005 at 9:09am
 because i didnt know better that i was buying a piece of **edited**------------- b2k4 w/ pds Evil Pipe Kit extreme rage clamping feed neck Halobw/rip drive crossfire 68/4500 Nox Board Dye sticky 3s cp shorty reg ebay valve |
Posted By: felix
Date Posted: 03 April 2005 at 9:10am
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iwrote this because i thought that from what everyone was saying, what the reviews were saying i was getting a good deal. Until i go play speedball where my gun shoots 1 bps and everyone else shoots al least 5 bps. I think that tippmanns need to be electric for much cheaper. I think that pachnerg agrees
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Posted By: Dan db09
Date Posted: 03 April 2005 at 9:11am
So you bought that piece of  and decided to spend more money on it huh...
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Posted By: pachnerg
Date Posted: 03 April 2005 at 9:11am
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yup^^^^^^^^^ to felix ------------- b2k4 w/ pds Evil Pipe Kit extreme rage clamping feed neck Halobw/rip drive crossfire 68/4500 Nox Board Dye sticky 3s cp shorty reg ebay valve |
Posted By: Dan db09
Date Posted: 03 April 2005 at 9:12am
The prices aren't to satisfy you... Companies need to make money.. They're not gonna lower prices for your satisfaction... Tippmann's that get converted to Electro (E-Grip/E-Bolt) are amazing guns... And I know that there is many people here that would back me up on that one because it's true... |
felix wrote:Posted By: pbdude985
Date Posted: 03 April 2005 at 9:13am
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if you can only shoot 1bps on your tippmann you have some problems with your finers or sometin ------------- 
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Posted By: pachnerg
Date Posted: 03 April 2005 at 9:16am
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HE IS BEING SARCASTIC ------------- b2k4 w/ pds Evil Pipe Kit extreme rage clamping feed neck Halobw/rip drive crossfire 68/4500 Nox Board Dye sticky 3s cp shorty reg ebay valve |
Posted By: felix
Date Posted: 03 April 2005 at 9:16am
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no it is because the **edited**ing triggers on the gun suck balls
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Posted By: Dan db09
Date Posted: 03 April 2005 at 9:18am
| Like some people... and Pachnerg, make your sig smaller |
Posted By: pachnerg
Date Posted: 03 April 2005 at 9:18am
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I didnt know better... that my gun would suck ------------- b2k4 w/ pds Evil Pipe Kit extreme rage clamping feed neck Halobw/rip drive crossfire 68/4500 Nox Board Dye sticky 3s cp shorty reg ebay valve |
Posted By: felix
Date Posted: 03 April 2005 at 9:18am
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Posted By: Dan db09
Date Posted: 03 April 2005 at 9:21am
First of all, I wasn't talking to you... and second... If you hate Tippmann so bad, leave... |
Posted By: felix
Date Posted: 03 April 2005 at 9:22am
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Posted By: pachnerg
Date Posted: 03 April 2005 at 9:22am
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It is an opion that i was agreeing with it dosent mean i dont like the people hear ar the forum. I still need help learning how to install a drop for my new gun. Dont get so hyped up. ------------- b2k4 w/ pds Evil Pipe Kit extreme rage clamping feed neck Halobw/rip drive crossfire 68/4500 Nox Board Dye sticky 3s cp shorty reg ebay valve |
Posted By: Dan db09
Date Posted: 03 April 2005 at 9:27am
Dont come to a forum to tell people not to buy a product... Especially the companies forum... People like you make us look bad... And I have an A-5, Flatine, Psycho Drop w/ UFA, Grip Block, Trigger Mods, X-Core, Double Trigger, Lapco Grip.... Happy? |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 03 April 2005 at 9:44am
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Now now, Felix can come here and give whatever opinion he likes, same goes for pchang.
I will say this, my only interaction with Felix leads me to believe he is a good guy, but somewhat of a poser. he claims to be Oliver Lang's brother, just FYI...don't know if that's true or not, but I'm skeptical someone with a brother playing professional paintball has so little grasp on the ins and outs of the game. Felix, you obviously are a speedball player. Why didn;t you research more before you bought your gun? I mean, sure, a Tippmann can hold it's onw in speedball, but it really is more of a woods gun. I'm sorry, but if you wanted a gun that was more geared towards speedball, you should have done your research and bought one. There's no reason to go telling every new player not to buy a Tippmann just because YOU made a stupid purchase! You can tell them what you don't like about the gun, and give your strong opinion, but it's really kinda classless to say "Don't buy Tippmanns, they suck" on a Tippmann site. Basically, your bad opinion would be taken more seriously if you could be taken more seriously. But I think anydbody that's seen some of the questions you've asked will know you really need to do some more research before you start giving out advice. And also, I really don't think there's a $350 gun that can match the A5/E-Grip's performance. |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 03 April 2005 at 9:50am
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And just so you guys know where Pchangs coming from, this is a question he asked about the gun in his sig:
"It's probably a stupid question but is the b2k5 electric and how do you set up the air thingy(where the nitro goes) can you give me step by step insructions?" That should show you how much he knows about paintguns and how seriously you should take his and Felix's opinions.. |
Posted By: INV8ER
Date Posted: 03 April 2005 at 11:04am
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OK, Out of 31,822 members in this forum, you are 1 of 10 that hate tippmanns. So how can they be so bad ? The new Custom Pro E is only $240 for electronic trigger and many upgrades. So suck on that B1tch ------------- 
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Posted By: felix
Date Posted: 03 April 2005 at 11:06am
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Zesty, olivers my cuz. Not my brother and not to be a snob. Zesty, first of all, pachnerg has nothing to do with me. He is just agreeing which doesn't mean i don't know anything about paintball. But i liked how you said that i could have a strong opinion and yes i am a speed ball player and yes i did research before i bought. But, i didn;t thinkt that i would have to pay $230 for an electronic grip. I think that if the grip was still made and was less, i wouldn't care. Now i am buying a gun off my cuz. I think that it would be a smart choice to pick a different gun because of the fire speed. Sure the A-5 has a good speed of around 15 bps, but you could get a gun that comes with a grip for ceaper and shoots faster and comes with a much better barrel. I think that the tippmann guns aren't really a good marker, but a good first gun. Zesty i do agree with somethings that you say, fyi -------------
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Posted By: felix
Date Posted: 03 April 2005 at 11:08am
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o yeah, inv8ter, 3 things. FIrst of all, half the players are new so they will say yeah sure i like tippmanns. 2nd of all, how could you say a tippmann is better than a b2k5 or an angel or whatever. 3rd of all, you spelled your name wrong. -------------
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Posted By: INV8ER
Date Posted: 03 April 2005 at 11:15am
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I never said ANYTHING about the b2k5 !!! -------------
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Posted By: felix
Date Posted: 03 April 2005 at 11:18am
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Posted By: INV8ER
Date Posted: 03 April 2005 at 11:18am
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98 Custom Pro E $240 http://www.countypaintball.com/product_description.asp?item=3574 - http://www.countypaintball.com/product_description.asp?item= 3574 -------------
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Posted By: felix
Date Posted: 03 April 2005 at 11:19am
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read above -------------
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Posted By: INV8ER
Date Posted: 03 April 2005 at 11:23am
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screw yourself -------------
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Posted By: felix
Date Posted: 03 April 2005 at 11:33am
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O UR TOUGH -------------
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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 03 April 2005 at 11:35am
please? ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: Sarge14
Date Posted: 03 April 2005 at 11:51am
No offense to you or any other Speedballer, but why do u find it soo nessesary to shoot alot of paint very quickly. I played speed ball with my prolite the other weekend, ya i got shot, and i took people out too.A Prolite cant shoot fast at all, and i manage just fine, soo Why is it soo cool to waste soo much paint in such a short time frame? ------------- Nothing is Stronger than the Heart of a Volunteer Proud to be a Soldier in the United States Army! Commo Leads the Way!! |
Posted By: 98owner
Date Posted: 03 April 2005 at 12:20pm
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if u like tippmans then why the r u on the forums
------------- if u watch blue collar tv 24-7 u might be a redneck. -Hell yeah thats me |
Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 03 April 2005 at 12:59pm
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i have a question for you phoenix, if you are Olie's cuz, Tell me what
kind of gun He used to have, what color it was, and the type of
regulator that is on it, and what color the grips were.
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Posted By: Redtide62
Date Posted: 03 April 2005 at 2:41pm
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Felix I think you are being a little b1tch... Why would you post a thread on a forum on the site of the gun you're talking on? I like my A-5 mostly because I'm in high school and I worked my ass of to spend the $300 to get the gun and the flatline :), but also because its the best gun of any of the guys that I play with. I am defenetly not the best guy out there. If you rely on how fancy fast your gun is then you rely less on how good you are at the sport. I personly don't think that there would be a difference between getting taged by a guy with 75$ Spyder or a guy with $1,000 dollar Angel. Either way im gona scream "**edited**" cuz i have paint on my shirt and i have to go sit out. So if its me against your "cousin" and I have the Angel and he's got the Spyder I'm pretty sure I'm gona get my ass kicked. So go away and stop being a little b1tch |
Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 03 April 2005 at 2:44pm
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Posted By: INV8ER
Date Posted: 03 April 2005 at 3:05pm
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How about more then 10 on a stock 98 with a VL200 with a single trigger -------------
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Posted By: INV8ER
Date Posted: 03 April 2005 at 3:07pm
When are you going to learn how to write, looks like high school didnt help, so when ? College ? -------------
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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 03 April 2005 at 7:09pm
The A5 costs about $230 brand new, and the E-Grip is less than $120...that equals about $350 for a paintgun that can feed and fire reliably at 13+bps. Sure, it's not a true electro, but I don't think the dude bhind the bunker being hit by 13bps really knows the difference. Just for the record, you did tell me that Oliver Lang was your brother, so now I really think you are lying! But I still like you though. |
Posted By: shiftykyle101
Date Posted: 04 April 2005 at 6:32am
| tippmanns own your life you **edited**. |
Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 04 April 2005 at 7:21am
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STHU N00B.
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Posted By: eaglesin05
Date Posted: 04 April 2005 at 2:15pm
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A. Tippmanns rock B. If you don't like them then why are you here? C. Please leave ------------- Camo'd 98C Remote Polished internals Dbl trigger 14" J&J Ceramic Barrel Rocket Cock 2 Trigger Slop Mod 12V Revvy 03' Dye stikies R/T Drop Forward |
Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 04 April 2005 at 2:17pm
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you notice that he never answered my question, it would be easy to answer...all he'd have to do is call his "cuz"
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Posted By: antman
Date Posted: 04 April 2005 at 2:44pm
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^^^ hey i think u need 2 go bye bye soon.... P.S. F U |
Posted By: bluemunky42
Date Posted: 04 April 2005 at 3:17pm
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only reason i dont like my tippy anymore is cuz it chops real bad. even with an electric hopper but i decided to get a new gun before that started happening i think its a damn good starter gun tho ------------- 
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Posted By: pachnerg
Date Posted: 04 April 2005 at 4:30pm
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Don't want to start a fight but what bluemonkey was saying is sort of what felix was trying to say, he is my friend and yes, he is not oliver langs cousin but he dreams... I will say it in a polite way that he feels that tippmann guns dont give you bang for your buck, that is his opion. Sorry if he came on to you guys to strong. ------------- b2k4 w/ pds Evil Pipe Kit extreme rage clamping feed neck Halobw/rip drive crossfire 68/4500 Nox Board Dye sticky 3s cp shorty reg ebay valve |
Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 04 April 2005 at 5:58pm
are you talking to me? whats your problem, for someone thats stil a noob (and yes i mean teh derrogative form) you've got a lot of room to talk ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: mik0103
Date Posted: 04 April 2005 at 6:03pm
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Dude if you don't think tippmanns are good why are u in this forum. I think tippmann are great guns especially the A-5 and the 98 isn't bad . ------------- 98% of American teenagers have tried pot If you are part of the 2% that hasnt put this in your signature |
Posted By: pachnerg
Date Posted: 04 April 2005 at 9:50pm
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I will say it again-
He is on the forum because he owns a tippmann... He was giving an opion and yes i think he phrased it wrong but try to understand what he is saying without trying to punch him in the face first ------------- b2k4 w/ pds Evil Pipe Kit extreme rage clamping feed neck Halobw/rip drive crossfire 68/4500 Nox Board Dye sticky 3s cp shorty reg ebay valve |
Posted By: sugarfree
Date Posted: 04 April 2005 at 10:02pm
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Tippmanns in all honesty are not good speedball guns. And yes by the time you make them into a decent speedball gun you have spent way too much money and should have bought something else. But for woodsball there isn't anything better, and nothing can compare with how tough a tippmann is. ------------- Signatures are **edited** |
Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 04 April 2005 at 11:48pm
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"But for woodsball there isn't anything better, and nothing can compare with how tough a tippmann is." A good Woodsball tippmann will ned at least a better barrel and a regulator, but with some aftermarket parts you're right. My personal setup is a 98C with flatline, car stock, and Palmer's regulator. It does the job nice. If ou want a quality stock woodsball/scenario gun, look at an Ariakon or an Armotech. Great accuracy out of the box, and killer looks. ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: Xspyderman
Date Posted: 05 April 2005 at 3:28pm
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There is no better marker for a newbie than Tippman, especially for the youg'uns. But if you are a newbie poser name dropper, a Tippmann would never do, now would it? ------------- Xs. A5, GTA; Flatline, Double Trigger, R/T, Tapco Stock, 32° Remote, Attitude Forum: meeting place or medium for discussion of matters of public interest. NOT INTERESTED? DON'T POST! |
Posted By: bravecoward
Date Posted: 05 April 2005 at 3:57pm
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sigh i like my ebolt and i didnt spend 800 dollars to make it good on a speedball field. now you say you could've gotten soemthing better for for the price i paid, tell me what i could've got for $260 cause thats what i spent on my gun. ------------- 
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Posted By: INV8ER
Date Posted: 05 April 2005 at 4:46pm
I like the way you think ... -------------
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Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 05 April 2005 at 6:39pm
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Remember, it's not the gun that's good it's the player.
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Posted By: Redtide62
Date Posted: 05 April 2005 at 11:51pm
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INV8ER haha first off talking about not being able to write you spelled your name wrong. secondly ur not my GodDam English teacher so why the hell should i write like im trying to impress you? Lastly this is a freekin paintball forum... why would you tell someone they suck at writing? tell me what i said was totaly bs and its cool but if u wanna tell me my writing sucks go to the female gossip forum |
Posted By: LordJovian
Date Posted: 06 April 2005 at 8:10am
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Well, if you wanted a speedball gun why didn't you drop over a grand for an angel or DM5? No reason? Oh, you couldn't afford it. Well, neither can I. So, I started off with $230. Then added when I got some money, then repeated, until I built the gun I wanted. I choose Tippmann over Kingman because Tippmanns are built much better and last longer. For under $300, there aren't many choices. An Ion maybe, but I can see those falling to pieces within a year. The cheap 'cocker could have been an option, but "cheap" and "(auto)cocker" don't belong in the same sentence. If you wanted a cheap "speedball" gun out of the box, a Viewloader Triad w/ electro grip would get the job done. Wouldn't last a year, but it'll work. You could go ahead and buy three of them, so you don't have to worry about going to the store for a while to replace them. Tippmanns, even after needing upgrades, still come out cheaper with really good performance as high end guns. The A-5, however, does the best job at competing with high ends. 98C's take more work, but they can do it too. ------------- A-5 E-grip Chipley Custom Carbon Graphite 16" Evil Adapter(Spyder) 32 Deg New '03 XChamber Remote Line Gun Sling Sniper f/x Stock LPK 68/4500 HPA R-5 CP Reg JCS Duel Trigger |
Posted By: Liquid3
Date Posted: 06 April 2005 at 8:21am
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Zesty, Sugar Free, and Brihard have it right, in my opinion. Tipps are great Woods/Senario guns, with little upgrading needed. If you are unhappy with it, sell it and get what you want. It's that easy. I did get a second gun for speedball, but I prefer my Tippmann when I'm in the woods. The rest of the you guys need to lay off the flaming. We are allowed to have an opinion without being flamed, as long as it's stated nicely. |
Posted By: INV8ER
Date Posted: 06 April 2005 at 3:01pm
Hold on to your hats kids, because here goes .... First of all my name isn't spelled incorrectly, its called creative, which you would know nothing about, douche bag. Just look at your name, Redtide62, what a joke, and you dare mention my screen name. Second, I don't want you to impress me with your spelling .... You know this is a forum, and the WHOLE purpose is to communicate with others; which is impossible if you make no sense what so ever. Last but not least, "female gossip forum", please, I have more testicular fortitude then you and all the big hairy men that you dream about in your sleep. Piss off dude; your a waste of my time .....
And to everyone else, sorry for that flaming, and to stay on topic, I like Tippmanns .... -------------
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Posted By: mattie5960
Date Posted: 06 April 2005 at 3:48pm
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okay, im a starter, ive been looking at the tippmann 98 costum, and I found 1 brand new with a hopper and mask for $155. Is that a good deal? Is it a descent gun for a starter like me? About how many feet per second does it shoot?
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Posted By: marktippman98
Date Posted: 06 April 2005 at 6:44pm
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hey buddy no offence but its pretty obvious your making new usernames to act like more ppl are on yur side i dunnop bout u but i started wif a spyder immagine worst gun i ever had i had walmart eradicators that were better then that also ya tippman are pretty cheap if u realli wanna play speedball then buy a speedball gun like a Ion or Impulse not saying the tippmann isn't better or worst any gun can have only the perforance the player gives to it so ya after i got rid of my immagine i bout a 98 can u say amazing sniper fast gun i still need to buy a better barrel but holy it shoot pretty straight with a stock barrel when i was using it and it was pretty god damn windy so to all the haters of tippman kiss my a$$ and to all the lovers have fun wif yur tippmann and hope yur perforance improves like mine has in these last few weeks (TIPPMANN ROCKS) ------------- (In Game) ok guys watch out one at 21 dorito and back middle one, one just made a move for the snake shoot em are you their shoot him at the snake.....(big pause looks back) omg are you jokin 3v1 |
Posted By: P8ntBall_Phreak
Date Posted: 06 April 2005 at 8:34pm
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I agree with both sides here. The stock triggers on Tippmann markers do suck balls, they are not adjustable, the trigger pull is crap, and the springs are a pain if you don't know what you are doing. But Tippmanns are the king in the woods, you will never find a gun that is more reliable than a Tippmann, not even $1000 markers can compare to the durability and reliability of a Tippmann 98C. If you are a speedballer then yes, stay away from Tippmann if you don't feel like upgrading... a lot. If you play woodsball a Tippmann will be your best friend. It all just depends on how you play. ------------- What I got: Tippmann A-5 Flatline Barrel E-Grip Comp-Air System 88ci 5000psi Evil Scion Psycho Ballistic's Z-Drop JT Proteus Sportz Comm Mask |
Posted By: -mit-
Date Posted: 07 April 2005 at 7:22am
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^paintball freak^, i agree that tippmanns are VERY reliable, but i dont agree that the stock triggers are crap and the pull is crap. personally i like the stock trigger. and also, felix, ur not going to change anyones mind by saying "Tippmanns suck........dont buy them" ------------- Team Infinity |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 07 April 2005 at 8:36am
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mattie5960, that deal is decent, but i wouldn't buy it. The mask is probably gonna suck, and the M98C comes with an hopper anyways....it would be better to just buy the stock M98C and buy a mask you try and like.
Also, basically every paintball gun can shoot the same speed, it's really irrelevant since the fields mandatory limit is nothing over 300fps. So even if you had a gun that could shoot 1,000fps, it would be pointless. But just for your info, you can make almost any paintgun shoot pretty damned fast...I know for Tippmanns you can just get a stronger drive spring and easily get into the high 400fps and even over 500fps...but like I said it's pointless. |
Posted By: mattie5960
Date Posted: 07 April 2005 at 2:48pm
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thanks, but 1 more question, what is speed ball, and whats woodball? how do you play those games? Also, what do you know about Kingman Spyder Xtras? Are they any good? I can get one of them for $100 with a mask and co2.
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Posted By: felix
Date Posted: 07 April 2005 at 2:56pm
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speedball, usually smaller area than woodsball. Usually hide behind balloons and are shooting most of the time.
woodsball- in the woods in a bigger area. It is more of a camouflage/stealth thing. -------------
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Posted By: felix
Date Posted: 07 April 2005 at 2:57pm
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speedball- usually smaller area than woodsball. Usually hide behind balloons and are shooting most of the time.
woodsball- in the woods in a bigger area. It is more of a camouflage/stealth thing. -------------
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Posted By: mattie5960
Date Posted: 07 April 2005 at 3:04pm
| okay, what would being in an open field thats maybe a 200 yard square with nothing for coverage except bushes, and 3-4 foot deep holes fall under? speedball or woodball? Also what would being in the woods fall under? is a Kingman Spyder Xtra a good gun for these conditions? Is a Tippmann 98 custom good for these conditions? |
Posted By: Xspyderman
Date Posted: 07 April 2005 at 3:09pm
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Yes. ------------- Xs. A5, GTA; Flatline, Double Trigger, R/T, Tapco Stock, 32° Remote, Attitude Forum: meeting place or medium for discussion of matters of public interest. NOT INTERESTED? DON'T POST! |
Posted By: mattie5960
Date Posted: 07 April 2005 at 3:11pm
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what gun is good under those conditions? what are you saying yes to?
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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 07 April 2005 at 4:06pm
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^Mattie, it sounds to me like the style you are playing would be sort-of a woods/speed hybrid.
Personally, I wouldn't buy a Spyder. Despite the look, they are not much more compact than a Tippmann and weigh basically the same, but the Tippmann has better balance so it feels lighter. The Spyder may comes with more upgrades for less money, but the gun is more prone to malfunctions and breakdowns that a Tippmann. Basically, the Spyder is not a bad gun, it's just not as realiable or durable as a Tippmann. I feel like Spyders may have more options for the same price, but those options aren't done well....the Tippmann isn't as flashy, but it shoots just as straight and fast and far, and is gonna do it without giving you a headache. Some people love Spyders and have good experiences, so don't take my word as gospel. But the overwhelming majority of people that have tried and/or owned both will tell you they feel the Tippmann is more hassle-free, in the longrun especially. |