MARPAT all the way!

Strife_17 wrote: ^^lol sticky Nazi. lets steal his recipes

i sticky if i want too sticky nazi!

DPM all the way...........

i have spraypainted jeans and a 12 dollar german coat from fleet

at my place, tinfoil would probably be the best camo...its all sheds

unsticky...

_TT_ wrote: HITMAN 4 HIRE wrote: Strife_17 wrote: ^^lol sticky Nazi. lets steal his recipes i sticky if i want too sticky nazi! DPM all the way........... umm, no you dont

OWNED!!!

it's a idea of which camo is your fav...... or something.

free flippin country and forum.  theres alot worse going on in the forum that a little sticky... get to work mod.  make yourself usefull.

DPM is disruptive pattern material and is designed and manufactured by the brits.

  Woodland is the best

brihard wrote: CADPAT. The original digital camouflage. Greener than the MARPAT, and I wear it at work.  Seriously, it's actually pretty good stuff. Here's a bunch of our guys from a unit out west wearing it on an urban combat exercise, using paintball gear, coincidentally. (Yes, I know there aren't any buildings. This was on the approach.) Unsticky, fool!

Now I might be wrong, so if I am please provide proof of me being so because I want to be accurate on this, but I am pretty sure that the U.S. Marines were the first to issue pixel camo ( MARPAT ) and they were the first to develop it.

As for the CADPAT being greener, that can be better or worse depending on your surroundings. Like here in Montana, MARPAT works better because all of our woods have no bright colors at all, there is just all dark and dull tan, brown, black, and sage colors, which is the exact colors on the MARPAT. Now in a place like Washington State for example, the CADPAT would be better because it is a brighter green. But I think that both of us can agree that no matter what environment you are in, some type of pixel camo is best.

what does sticky mean?

sry to bust your bubble bud but cadpat was the first digital camo made in Canada and the U.S. acquired it later on but its infact Can.concept..

Oh an ya its the best no matter if its U.S. Or Can. ITS GOOD STUFF ANYWAYS!!!!!

bluemunky42 wrote: paintballman_13 wrote: Snow. (dont know its real name) winter camo

I don't want to get too technical here, but I think it's called WHITE...  it is a little lighter than beige, and the opposit of black... recommended for winter time... but if you play around where dogs hang out, I'd recommend some yellow stains... that version is known as "where the huskies go camo"...

brihard wrote: -mit-, sticky is when you set a post to 'sticky'- in other words it stays right at the top of the forum. It's not something you're suposed to do without permission from the mods.

but what is different about the topic if it is sticky. does it stay at the top?

 um i like the digital camo thing and now that we know the complete history of CADPAT and MARPAT i think we should find out wich is better i know sum guys above said sumthing about CADPAT beeing greaner and MARPAT beeing browner but which one is  all around better because i am looking into buys sum new camo for this summer does  any one know the answer? 

p.s.

 i live in central illionios

not exactly ghillie, but same lines i supose...

i took an old brown sheet (really ugly), spraypainted black and greens on it, then sliced little holes and plugged in branches (both ends of the sticks, so you can sorta ball up the sheet), duct taped them in(underside), and stitched 1/2 pound rocks into each corner (keeps it from blowing away)...its semi-portable, but mostly a fixed postition, but it pretty much disapears in the woods, i've been stepped upon by a careless player (there was three guys walking together, and i wasnt gonna take that many on at once without backup, so i tried to let them walk past...didnt work)

its great to set up, lie down, and pick off guys, because its pretty dang hard to see

gabe_weller21 wrote:  um i like the digital camo thing and now that we know the complete history of CADPAT and MARPAT i think we should find out wich is better i know sum guys above said sumthing about CADPAT beeing greaner and MARPAT beeing browner but which one is  all around better because i am looking into buys sum new camo for this summer does  any one know the answer?  p.s.  i live in central illionios

P.S. Thank you Brihard for Clarifying the origins of Pixel camo, someone a long time ago had told me that MARPAT was first but apparently he was an idiot who did not do any research, oops, that describes me to I guess.

Large Unit wrote: I like to use a little known method called reverse camo, you see I live in the desert and it is very bright out, so I wrap myself and my marker in very very shiney tin foil, it is so bright they can't look in my direction without being blinded and are forced to shoot blindly in my direction. yay im creative.

Have you ever even tried this idea out? I don’t think you have because apparently you have never tried to cook anything outside in the desert by wrapping it in tin foil and leaving it out in the sun, it works very well. But if your tin foil “camouflage” does work, and you don’t mind being cooked alive, then more power to you.

I go with woodland, but I can't wait to try out the US Army's new digital pattern on the ACU (Advanced Combat Uniform), the replacement for the current BDU's (Battle Dress Uniform).  Hopefully, I'll get the chance to try them in the field, and on the paintbal field before the next deployment to the Middle East. These use the same pattern, but diferent colors as the Marine pattern.  From what I remember in the Army Times article, the Army licensed the pattern from the Marines, so they are copyrighted as well (no globe and anchor though, thank God ;) ). There are a lot of knockoff uniforms and equipment with the Marine pattern, and some Marines are using their access to their clothing sales stores to make a little extra money on the side by selling the authentic items on e-bay.  Of course, I'm pretty sure that's like illegal, blackmarketeering or something like that.

A definate pl;us for everyone who plays in the woods, is that with the Army and Marines switching or already switched, and the Navy and Air Force looking at new patterns, there will be tons of woodland BDU's on the surplus market, and ebay pretty soon.  We (Army) are isuing the ACU to people going to the Middle East now, then to trainees, and they will be in our clothing sales stores I think next yar, with a mandatory owning date of 2007.  Of course the reserve components might be getting them later or earlier depending on if/when they deploy.  There will also be a lot of the 3 color desert BDU hitting the market soon.  The Marines have their desert uniform, and we are using one uniform for all climates  and will be getting rid of ours soon too.  Actually we didn't even have to turn ours in when we got back, and before units returning from desert locales had to. This is because of deploying units getting the ACU's.

Liquid3 wrote: I always though that active camo was the best for close range (i.e. Realtree Hardwoods Green) in the summer in northern woods. It is harder to match to your surroundings but once you do your pretty much invisible. Passive camo I thought worked better as a all around camo and at a distance. Am I nuts?

You are sort of right, that realtree stuff w/ the pictures of pine trees and pine cones is better than that green and black blotchy stuff, but remember that you can’t blend in w/ a green background when you are wearing solid green because the main way camouflage hides you is by breaking up your outline, and no camo does that as well as pixel camo. But that realtree stuff does come in a close second.

brihard wrote: CADPAT. The original digital camouflage. Greener than the MARPAT, and I wear it at work.  Seriously, it's actually pretty good stuff.

thats actaully really well camoflaged if they would only follow the 7 s's of cam and concealment,, lol

anyways,, my vote goes for the Australian spotties... there the best.

apparently america wanted to buy them in return for m16s for australia and australia told them to bugger off cuz they had perfectly good styers

Blackbetty wrote: ... my vote goes for the Australian spotties... there the best. apparently america wanted to buy them in return for m16s for australia and australia told them to bugger off cuz they had perfectly good styers

Umm... thats not true. There was no such offer made to Austrailia.

Oh I did spell it wrong didn’t I, I can’t type very good, I must of accidentally hit the wrong button. But no hard feelings about your earlier statement right? I said something earlier in this thread about MARPAT being first, but I was wrong, so I’ve said things without doing any research as well.

For paintball I like to use the hunting camo prints that match my environment. MARPAT and the other digital camo is built to be a good pattern for every environment but a master of no environment; therefore it is good for military and bad for the specifics like paintball.

I live in Florida and have found that nothing beats DK Flatwoods.

http://www.dkflatwoods.com/camo.html - http://www.dkflatwoods.com/camo.html

It’s the official pattern of the state turkey-hunting club. Ever hunt turkey? They can see the whites of your eyes.

Be glad we don’t have to hide from thermal!

If your games allow you to “wait for them to come to me” build a ghille poncho. Bring a pair of rose prunners out with you so you can add vegetation to yourself to match your environment. I have had friends not-knowing step on me. After they discover your trick take of the ghille and tie it to a tree next to you. When they shoot the ghille you shoot them.

Nickodemus wrote: For paintball I like to use the hunting camo prints that match my environment. MARPAT and the other digital camo is built to be a good pattern for every environment but a master of no environment; therefore it is good for military and bad for the specifics like paintball. I live in Florida and have found that nothing beats DK Flatwoods. http://www.dkflatwoods.com/camo.html - http://www.dkflatwoods.com/camo.html It’s the official pattern of the state turkey-hunting club. Ever hunt turkey? They can see the whites of your eyes. Be glad we don’t have to hide from thermal! If your games allow you to “wait for them to come to me” build a ghille poncho. Bring a pair of rose prunners out with you so you can add vegetation to yourself to match your environment. I have had friends not-knowing step on me. After they discover your trick take of the ghille and tie it to a tree next to you. When they shoot the ghille you shoot them.

No offense to you or anything but, how long have you been playing paintball? I’ve been hunting all over the country since I was six, and I have been playing paintball for quite a number of years now all over the country as well, and I can tell you that paintball bears no similarities to hunting at all. Sitting and waiting is never good, unless your whole team is planning an ambush, and even then a guile suit will just get in your way. If you are all alone, away from your team, and sitting and waiting, that only will get you one or two guys out before you are taken out, this does nothing to help your team. So get up, ditch the guile suit, and be a team player by moving w/ your team, its way more fun and you will be more effective in paintball.

Once again, I am not trying to offend you or anything, so please don’t take what I’ve said the wrong way.

I am not offended because you are misunderstood. I have been playing paintball off and on for the past nine years. Obviously you haven’t read my other post to see the aggressive tactics I prefer to use. You forget the point of this thread! It’s about camo not tactics.

I never said to play paintball like you hunt. That would be awfully inefficient. I said that the hunting patterns work better then MARPAT if you find one that works with the environment you play in.

Most of my games I play in normal clothes and camo isn’t even an issue! BUT - Since I play with small groups and sometimes one-on-one we play elimination and like to hide from each other. Like Manhunt with a paintball marker. I would never throw on a ghille for a speedball game, only particular woodsball games.

Open the minds!

I don’t mean to sound like a jerk and I am sure you are all fine players – But I didn’t think anyone would pull out the tactics card on a camo pattern thread. I presume someone reading this looking for a good camo pattern has need for it in the games they play.

If you want to blend in totally you have to ghille and I have no shame is saying that. This can be suicide in some types of games and a necessity in others. Most of you probably don’t have private property to play on and the fields you go to would not allow for an advantage using camouflage and concealment. But if your like me and get a 2-on-2 or each man for themselves going, with no goal but elimination, then you discover the advantage of the ambush and C&C.

If I go to the rec field by me with 200 players on the field I wear more athletic attire.

Get the equipment for the games you play. Understand that not everyone plays the same type of games as you.

MARPAT and its likenesses,

I can't wait to see the next generation of digital camouflage. I mean squares work well from concept to production but I don't see any reason why you couldn't use other shapes like triangles and circles to get the digital contrast effect. How about fractals - Now that would play a trick on the eyes, the whole pattern would work together from the largest portion to the smallest.

Nickodemus wrote: I am not offended because you are misunderstood. I have been playing paintball off and on for the past nine years. Obviously you haven’t read my other post to see the aggressive tactics I prefer to use. You forget the point of this thread! It’s about camo not tactics. I never said to play paintball like you hunt. That would be awfully inefficient. I said that the hunting patterns work better then MARPAT if you find one that works with the environment you play in.   Most of my games I play in normal clothes and camo isn’t even an issue! BUT - Since I play with small groups and sometimes one-on-one we play elimination and like to hide from each other. Like Manhunt with a paintball marker. I would never throw on a ghille for a speedball game, only particular woodsball games. Open the minds!

O.K, I misunderstood your thread, sorry, it sounded like you were saying that a guile was better all around, I understand fully what you are saying now, you are saying exactly what my argument is, that is to choose your camo based on your terrain, tactics, and foliage, sorry for the misunderstanding.

Oh one more thing, it is unavoidable in a topic about camouflage that you begin to talk of tactics because the type of camouflage you choose all depends on the type of tactics you use, take the guile for example, you obviously aren’t going to wear a guile suite if your running all over the field all the time, you would wear your self out and it would be easier for your opponents to spot you, I mean its not every day that you see a bush run across a field.