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Topic: car price?
Posted By: *Stealth*
Subject: car price?
Date Posted: 04 April 2005 at 8:45pm
well tomorrow i'm gonna go get more details... Milage, Engine condition ETC ETC...
But there is a 900$ 69 Red Mercury Couger... Fine body condition,
Hardly any rust... Everything looks great, and i'm concidering talken
to my parents about it, if it indeed turns out to be a good deal..
I want to know what people think about the car, The thing looks hot as
hell to me but I want to see if any one here knows it's performance etc
etc..
I have a 90's caravan that is about to die on me... So i'm looken for a new car..
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Posted By: Strife_17
Date Posted: 04 April 2005 at 8:47pm
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if it runs go for it. with the price of insurance you need to find a cheap care i think insurance for a 16 yeasr old is 2.5k. stupid insurance people making money off us kids.
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Posted By: pntbl freak
Date Posted: 04 April 2005 at 8:51pm
Yeah I say go for it.
Just look at milage and engine condition before you do anything. And make sure it runs fine.
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Posted By: the_blade
Date Posted: 04 April 2005 at 8:57pm
get historic car insurance with unlimited milage....... Its costing my freind about 450 a year and hes 17 he owns a completly done up 72 camaro with 455 in it .At the wheels its pushing 539 horses and 575 fp's of torque...... Its a beuty of a car
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Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 04 April 2005 at 9:02pm
My neighbor pays like $150 a month on insurance, or something. He is 17 I think?

Nice looking car BTW, deffinately go for it.
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Posted By: ekeboo
Date Posted: 04 April 2005 at 9:35pm
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i wouldnt get a cougar i dont know for 900$ something is probably wrong as for a test drive first. ill check some of my books at home
i did a little quick homework on the 69 and find out if it has a 351 windsor engine if it does definately get it those are getting farely expensive if its original
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Posted By: HondaXR
Date Posted: 04 April 2005 at 9:50pm
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Remember the old saying "You get what you pay for"
Does it have a title? If not I wouldnt fool with the vehicle...
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Posted By: dtfastj
Date Posted: 04 April 2005 at 10:38pm
HondaXR wrote:
Remember the old saying "You get what you pay for"
Does it have a title? If not I wouldnt fool with the vehicle... | Should be a good buy. I dont mess with cars older than I am tho. lol I'd get it and then drop in either a newer 351 or go crazy and put in a LS-1. with the LS-1 you still can get decent mpg and still have a fast car.
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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 05 April 2005 at 7:39am
Personally, I would probably pass on it, unless you know a mechanic or have good knowledge yourself. You don't want to buy something that you're just gonna have to dump money into, which older cars are notorious for.
Personally, I think everyone has too low of expectations! Nobody believes that you can get a good car for less than $2000, but they're wrong!
Look into a 1990 or newer Nissan 240sx or an Altima if you want some room.
I have seen 5speed 1995 Altima GXE's for $1600 on Craigslist, and there are currently a 1990 240sx and a 1993 240SX for less than $1500.
Basically, you can spend a bit more and get a much more practical car.
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Posted By: Variable
Date Posted: 05 April 2005 at 6:11pm
Posted By: Badonka
Date Posted: 05 April 2005 at 6:20pm
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Do you have absolutely any idea how much that car is going to cost you in the long run?
Stick with new(er) cars, and dependable ones such as Hondas and Toyotas. May not be flashy or powerful, but boy will they save you money in the long run.
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Posted By: bluemunky42
Date Posted: 05 April 2005 at 6:46pm
Glassjaw wrote:
My neighbor pays like $150 a month on insurance, or something. He is 17 I think?
Nice looking car BTW, deffinately go for it.
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is that a cougar i never saw one before. if it is yeah i like it if its got low/mediumish milage then yeah go for it
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Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 05 April 2005 at 6:54pm
I searched google images and found a relatively red one.
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Posted By: the_blade
Date Posted: 05 April 2005 at 7:08pm
Badonka wrote:
Do you have absolutely any idea how much that car is going to cost you in the long run?
Stick with new(er) cars, and dependable ones such as Hondas and Toyotas. May not be flashy or powerful, but boy will they save you money in the long run.
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Ive seen some pretty flashy imports.........personally i'd stick with domestic cars..
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Posted By: pbdude985
Date Posted: 05 April 2005 at 7:11pm
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the_blade wrote:
get historic car insurance with unlimited milage....... Its costing my freind about 450 a year and hes 17 he owns a completly done up 72 camaro with 455 in it .At the wheels its pushing 539 horses and 575 fp's of torque...... Its a beuty of a car |
that car sounds like a monster
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Posted By: ekeboo
Date Posted: 05 April 2005 at 7:14pm
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 05 April 2005 at 7:16pm
That thing sounds like it eats gas like nobodys business.
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Posted By: the_blade
Date Posted: 06 April 2005 at 6:32am
ehhh I dont know the compression ratio. Ill ask him what it is later on today I know its a 6.6 or 6.7 liter engine the cylinders have been bored out .20 and he gets like mabe 14 mpg.......
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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 07 April 2005 at 8:50am
Badonka wrote:
Do you have absolutely any idea how much that car is going to cost you in the long run?
Stick with new(er) cars, and dependable ones such as Hondas and Toyotas. May not be flashy or powerful, but boy will they save you money in the long run. | I would agree with this, but take it a step further and get the Nissan....cheaper resale value than a Toyota or a Honda, so you can get a good used car for cheap...every bit as reliable and probably more powerful but just as economical and more stylish...yes, I'm a Nissan fanboy.
seriously though, for any price you are willing to pay for a car, I'll bet you can find a Nissan model that would fit your cause better than any other manufacturer.
After experiences with both domestic and fpreign cars, I found it really is no comparison! Especially when you are looking into a 4cylinder car...the US sucks at making 4-bangers!
Instead of being like these Japanese, who take a 4-cylinder car, and instead of just adding displacement to make it more powerful like Americans do, they put 4 valves on each cylinder and pull as much power as a lot of American 6-cylinders...all the while being more relibale, economocal, and tunable for a cheaper price.
Ever seen an American 4-Cyclinder car pull 600 horsepower at the rear-wheels? Me neither! But I have see a WHOLE BUNCH of 2.0 liter Nissan 240sx's pushing over 600HP and 1200 torque at th rear-wheels....American car-makers can't do this in their dreams.
And then there's Godzilla...the 2,800 rear-wheel torque inline 6-cylinder Nissan Skyline.
It's kinda funny, all these American manufacturer's think they are badass with their 400HP v8's, when Nissan is making engines half the size that are pushing over 2X the power...makes you wonder.
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Posted By: the_blade
Date Posted: 07 April 2005 at 10:08am
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My neon when it used to be stock its a 4 valve 132 horse 130 foot pounds torque
i think domestic car manufactorers do a good job
at the like the cobalt or the srt 4......
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Posted By: ShortyBP
Date Posted: 07 April 2005 at 10:46am
How is your 90's Caravan about to die on you? My 88 Grand Voyager is still running strong as an ox.
Mind you, it is sitting right now as I wait for a replacement wiper motor, need to try to get an AC retrofit as the wife complains it's too hot in the summer (wuss) and I can't for the life of me figure out why the radio won't power up. :)
As for your '69 Cougar... man, it's up to you. I don't know what you want, or what you're looking for.
If you're looking for a "cool" car to drive... then maybe the classic 69 (huh huh... 69) is indeed what you want.
If you're looking for an everyday car to get you where you need to go... consider the imports as suggested above.
I landed a 91 Accord LX for $1800 with about 90K mi about 2 years ago. Quite a steal. I've had a few issues with it, but each one is less than a typical car payment. I trust that despite it's age, it'll last me a while as well. It's replaced my van as my everyday commuter vehicle, and I use it instead of the van for my monthly trips from VA to NJ as it gets twice the mileage, and at $2.30/gallon for regular... that adds up. :)
If you are serious about buying ANY used car... do yourself two other checks. Kelly Blue Book has been the standard for awhile, KBB.com... however those "in the know" have told me Edmunds is a better choice for guesstimating car worth.
In addition, it wouldn't hurt to find out the VIN number and run a CARFAX check with it. Now, I don't suggest you blow $20 to sign up for CARFAX unless you'll be looking at a lot of different cars. Find someone who has a CARFAX account and see if they can run a check for a buck or two.
I know on Craigslist (craigslist.org) you can typically find someone willing to do a check for you if you send them $1-2 via paypal.
Looks can be deceiving... sellers can be deceiving too. If the car has been in anything major, CARFAX will let you know.
Good luck.
I know I sure as hell wouldn't get the '69 gas hog. :) Not around here.
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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 07 April 2005 at 4:15pm
the_blade wrote:
My neon when it used to be stock its a 4 valve 132 horse 130 foot pounds torque
i think domestic car manufactorers do a good job
at the like the cobalt or the srt 4...... |
The Dodge SRT4 is one of the few "American-made" 4-cyl cars that I have heard good things about. Keep in mind I don't know much about it, but I do know that Dodge likes to steal/buy designs from Mitsubishi, so it may not be as American-made as the Dodge name makes you think...but this is only speculation.
I've seen the commercials for the Cobalt, but what is it and what are its specs? I haven't seen any on the road, I see that GM stopped the ad campaign, and I hear that GM is basically going bankrupt, so whatever it is I don't think it could be that good....but that's just speculation as well.
I think a couple of the things Nissan does well is put out cars with engines that have a lot of torque and good transmissions to mate with them.
It's one thing to push 500HP on the dyno, it's another thing to actually have a car with a tranny and entire setup that can actually have that power in the real-world when you need it.
I know there's no perfect car for everyone, but if you want a cheap, reliable car that actually has some style and performance, saves gas, and can be tuned like no other, the various Nissan models are really hard to beat.
You really aren't missing out on much if you're rolling in a Nissan, IMHO.
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Posted By: the_blade
Date Posted: 07 April 2005 at 6:50pm
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The cobolt is a four cylinder 2.0 supercharged to 170 horses.Theres also a 2.2 version and 2.4 liter engine
Im not trying to attack you on this but dodge has cut deals with mitsu in letting them use a domestic motors (420a) in the base model of the eclipse.The motor is normally in pt cruziers dodge neons and I think breezes, cirrusis? Correct me if im wrong.
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Posted By: HondaXR
Date Posted: 07 April 2005 at 8:30pm
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Zesty wrote:
You really aren't missing out on much if you're rolling in a Nissan, IMHO. |
You got that right...
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Posted By: borntopaint
Date Posted: 07 April 2005 at 9:13pm
Zesty wrote:
Personally, I would probably pass on it, unless you know a
mechanic or have good knowledge yourself. You don't want to buy
something that you're just gonna have to dump money into, which older
cars are notorious for.
Personally, I think everyone has too low of expectations! Nobody
believes that you can get a good car for less than $2000, but they're
wrong!
Look into a 1990 or newer Nissan 240sx or an Altima if you want some room.
I have seen 5speed 1995 Altima GXE's for $1600 on Craigslist, and
there are currently a 1990 240sx and a 1993 240SX for less than $1500.
Basically, you can spend a bit more and get a much more practical car. |
exactly and here is the site to help you out http://www.autotrader.com - www.autotrader.com that sight is sooo amazing
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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 08 April 2005 at 7:25am
the_blade wrote:
The cobolt is a four cylinder 2.0 supercharged to 170 horses.Theres also a 2.2 version and 2.4 liter engine
Im not trying to attack you on this but dodge has cut deals with mitsu in letting them use a domestic motors (420a) in the base model of the eclipse.The motor is normally in pt cruziers dodge neons and I think breezes, cirrusis? Correct me if im wrong. |
No problem bro, I know you're not attacking me and take no offense...I'm the one that asked after all!
I will say that judging by your specs you listed, the Cobalt is bunk. You can buy any Nissan 240sx 1990 or newer, drive it until the engine is done, and then swap it out for the Japanese version of the engine, which is a 2.0l with a stock turbocharger that pushes 200HP and torque.....all that and the entire engine swap won't cost you even $3000!
And that's running on outdated technology. If Chevy Cobalt is only pushing 170 from a 2liter supercharged(which isn't all that bad, just not good) in the year 2005, in a car that costs over $15,000, while the Japanese version of the 240sx engine, the sr20det, is basically the same size engine which also has a turbo and puts out 30 more FT/lbs of torque with technology that is 10 years older!
Basically, Nissan has been owning the Coablt before it even came out!
The reason I assume Dodge likes to swap plans with Mitsubishi is because of the Dodge Stealth/Mitsubishi 3000GT scenario....they are the exact same car, made by Mitsubishi, so many people who actually own the Dodge version still just call it a 3000GT, because that's what it is despite the name on it.
Either way it's a crazy car.
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Posted By: Badonka
Date Posted: 09 April 2005 at 4:48pm
the_blade wrote:
My neon when it used to be stock
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Like, that is the WORST way to ever start speaking... ever...
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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 10 April 2005 at 9:34am
^Hehe, I thought I was the only one thrown off by that!
HondaXR, that avatar is hilarious! One of the few ones that made me smile.
Borntopaint, that is a sick-looking 300zx you got in your sig! I'm really not as familiar with the 300zx's, but I do know they're rear-wheel drive and are gonna be pushing a good 300HP and torque....in other words, you will be "getting sideways" whenever you want, wherever you want!
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