Illegal immigrants
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Topic: Illegal immigrants
Posted By: WGP guy
Subject: Illegal immigrants
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 7:34pm
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Alright, you guys have officially convinced me that a plan even close
to mine sucks. You have convinced me that illegals don't really hurt
the economy, and that they help if anything. I never really thought
that they do the jobs that we would never do. So, you guys have
pursuaded me.
I was wondering what you opinion on illegal immigrants was and how we fix the problem. First of all, they are ruining our economy. $50,000,000,000 of wages made by illegal immigrants is sent to Mexico. This is hurting the economy. Prostitution, drug distribution, and gang activity is prominant among illegal immigrants. A lot of times we try to deport them, Mexico won't let them back. To fix this problem I propose:
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Posted By: BLand
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 7:35pm
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The Tippmann Forum will rise against illegal immigrants!
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 7:35pm
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I think if we catch someone trying to cross over. We should just shoot them and charge mexico with the bill for the bullet. That would get the message across to their govt. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors"> 
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Posted By: WGP guy
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 7:36pm
Basically what I said. |
DBibeau855 wrote:Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 7:37pm
HAHAHAH! Thanks for the laugh.
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Posted By: ultimatetrooper
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 7:38pm
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I know so many illegal immigrants. They flip our burgers man. ------------- 
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Posted By: WGP guy
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 7:39pm
I know it would NEVER happen. All these humane groups would revolt. But this is a serious problem, and a serious problem deserves a serious solution, no matter how severe it is. |
Posted By: WGP guy
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 7:40pm
And then send over half the money they make to Mexico. That hurts the economy. |
Posted By: Badsmitty
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 7:40pm
| We now have the Minutemen. They are volunteers who man our borders. I feel safer already. |
Posted By: paintballman_13
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 7:42pm
What about the idea that that guy had (cant remember his name) from the movie Coneheads? |
Posted By: WGP guy
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 7:43pm
Uh, yea they can alert the border patrol, but they can't do anything to the immigrants. And the border patrol often can't get there fast enough, that is if they even try to. Maybe we should just invade Mexico, problem solved. |
Posted By: Ejp414
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 7:44pm
You say, "humane," like it's a bad thing. I always thought the connotation was a positive one, too... ------------- __________________ __________________ |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 7:44pm
2 Salesmen at Olympus(a car parts warehouse that sells parts to auto shops to fix your car) Send money to other countries. Its not just illeagles that do this. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: WGP guy
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 7:44pm
Never seen it, elaborate please. |
Posted By: Sammy
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 7:44pm
I agree with you, but if you were born as them. You would do the exact same thing. ------------- 
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Posted By: WGP guy
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 7:45pm
I know, but illegals are responsible for losing us $50,000,000,000 a year. |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 7:46pm
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Maybe you sould be shot for giving your money to your tax-free church and not spending it on something that helps the economy.
Why is sending money back to their home country a problem? Do you people ever thing about anything other that yourselves or what is good for the "American citizen?" in the eyes if Republican views? -------------
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Posted By: WGP guy
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 7:47pm
I'm trying not to use the "L" word. That was the only thing I could think of. Humane being people who would never imagine harming anyone. |
Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 7:47pm
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Illegal immigration isn't a problem like you say it is. I think all companies should be forced to pay illegal immigrants the same wages as those who are not illegally in the United States. Anyone acting in violence towards an illegal immigrant will be severely punished as well. In fact, it should be made easier to become a citizen. |
Posted By: meteora
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 7:49pm
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ship em to antartica no seriously, its cold so theyll hate it ------------- http://imageshack.us"> 
GUN WHORE XTC |
Posted By: WGP guy
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 7:49pm
But that money is used to pay the preacher (who pays taxes) pay for utility bills, which pays taxes, and the utility money is used to pay the workers, who pay taxes, and then it is spent on various things. But when the money is sent to Mexico, it is circulated in Mexico, and taxes for the Mexican government are paid with it. |
Posted By: WGP guy
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 7:51pm
No, see that would cost too much money. A bullet is much cheaper. |
Posted By: meteora
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 7:51pm
yea, but we're not so who cares ------------- http://imageshack.us">
GUN WHORE XTC |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 7:53pm
They shouldnt be paid at all... ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: :ShockeR_ratm:
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 7:54pm
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my town is full of illegal immigrants...we actually have houses with up
to 15 of them living at a time...you people say it isn't a problem
because you probably haven't been exposed to the nuisannce they are
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 7:54pm
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There is still money being not paid in taxes.
Anytime a taxed business get money, bam! It is taxed. Then they pay their bills and everything the preacher does. When the church gets their money there is no tax. Lots of revinue is lost. More then the money non US citizens are shipping out of the country. -------------
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Posted By: gangstarap
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 7:55pm
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Illegal Immigrants are here to stay and the flow of them will come in by the thousands every year. Guess what? Not a damn thing you can do about it |
GO MEXICANS!Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 7:56pm
And this affects you how? Dont judge what I have or have been exposed to you have no clue. -------------
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 7:56pm
There can be a million what ifs. It doesnt matter what we would do, that doesnt change the situation at hand. The US has a problem with illeagle imigration. It doesnt matter how you slice it, its still a problem. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 7:57pm
Amen. I dont see any problem. If they want to be here, why shouldnt they be. It isnt like you own the land they live on or the companies they work for. -------------
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Posted By: Sammy
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 7:58pm
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Actually I think some of them are good for the economy. They do jobs that we would never do. They pick strawberries in the fields for a few dollars a day, they clean our houses, they do our lawns, etc etc.
EDIT: Out of all of our house keepers are gardners all of them were hispanic. None of them were white. Why? Because white people can get better jobs than that. -------------
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 7:59pm
| Wow, you're more brutal than I am. |
Posted By: WGP guy
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 7:59pm
Well is is a free organization that accepts donations. Thats all it is. Why tax a free organization. |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:00pm
Where i live, there are a couple streets where they just FLOCK to get picked up for day jobs. Loitering, bringing down the property vaulue of the neighborhood. Its been going on for about 15 years. And because they have all flocked to this area in Annondale, the place is in disrepair, houses are condemed and falling apart. Its horrible. They should all be DEPORTED. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: 636andy636
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:01pm
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OMG the war is ruining your ecomy!
oh there was a nother expencive bomb that the USA droped. oh wait theres a nother one. oh i think i hear a third. there was a few bux that your not geting back and oh look the bombs were droped into the desert and dident kill anything |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:03pm
Ive caught 5 hispanic maids trying to steal from me. Once, in my old house, i came home from school and the maid was vacuming naked downstairs. That was interesting. He was homosexual and didnt think anyone would be home. He started crying and what not. My grandma didnt fire him thogh she liked him to much, she thoght he was "Sweet" ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:04pm
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So what is wrong with sending the money to their home country if we can have free organizations waste potential tax dollars.
According to your arguement wasting money that could help the economy is bad. Therefore not taxing churches is bad. Yeah the arguement doesnt sound so good when it hits close to what you like, does it? -------------
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:05pm
Look in the past. War is good for the economy, bad for gas prices. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:07pm
Its staying in the country. The money goes to the preacher who pays taxes, it pays people that work for the church who also are taxed, it also goes to charities and upkeep. Its a medium, thats it! Its completely different than our country hemoraging money. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:07pm
Your stories are getting harder and harder to swallow.... -------------
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Posted By: WGP guy
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:10pm
Do you support taxing the salvation army? How about all the countless rescue missons? They operate on donations, much like churches. I think that taxing churches might not be a bad thing, but they get profit off of donations, hits no certain, steady income. |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:11pm
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It was an interesting event. I think its the strangest thing that ever happened to me. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:11pm
 So outside of the southern states, what race do you think is doing that job?-------------
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Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:14pm
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I work at McDonalds. I work with about 3-4 illegals. They are just human beings who want to make some money and live in better conditions. Do you really blame them? They are willing to work for wages that we think are horrid, at jobs that we dont want. So quit complaining and shut it. We all started off America as illegals. So lets get off our high horse and put ourselfs in their shoes. "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:18pm
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Illegal immigration is a tricky issue. I am all in favor of enforcing law, as a general matter (including immigration laws), but we should try to consider as many relevant facts as possible when making policy decisions. Since you raised primarily economic issues, I will elaborate only on those. First - Your $50,000,000,000 number (the origins of which I am curious about, given the difficulty in documenting these things). That's 50 BILLION dollars. That sounds like a really big number, but given that the INS estimated in 2000 that there were approximately 7 million illegal aliens in the US at the time ( http://uscis.gov/graphics/shared/aboutus/statistics/Ill_Report_1211.pdf - source ), that's only a little more than $7,000 per person. The US GDP in 2003 was approximately $11,000,000,000,000, or about $35k per person. Just to put that in perspective. Second - Most LEGAL immigrants also send money abroad. Heck, lots of US citizens send money abroad. Third - Sending money abroad does not make that money "lost" to the US. Much of that money is spent at McDonald's (or whatever) locally, or spent to support Britney's newest music video. In a global economy money is never truly "abroad". Not to mention that it would clearly benefit the US to have a stronger Mexican economy. Fourth - Many of those illegal immigrants have already paid taxes on that money, to the US IRS. Some use a special social security number provided by the IRS for that purpose, others use stolen/illegal SSN's. But pay taxes they do. Fifth - Those tax-paying illegal immigrants also pay social security taxes, while they are NOT eligible for SS benefits. So this is a gift to the struggling social security administration to the tune of an estimated $7 Billion per year ( http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/05/business/05immigration.html?ex=1270353600&en=78c87ac4641dc383&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland - source ). Cutting them off would hurt social security. Sixth - Those illegal immigrants provide valuable services to US society at wages, and on conditions, that Americans are not willing to. Cutting off illegal immigration would be devastating to the US agriculture industry, for instance (many sectors of US ag industry rely heavily on migrant workers of dubious documentation), as well as the hotel industry, landscaping industry, construction industry, textile industry, and many other important parts of the American economy. You cannot simply remove 7,000,000 laborers from the workforce without significant impact. Why do you think that every effort in Congress to do something serious about illegal immigration is met with heavy resistance? So - while I agree in principle that we ought not have illegal immigration, to suggest that we should simply stop it overnight is naive. The fact is that we HAVE illegal immigration, and lots of it. It would no longer be a good thing to simply make the illegals "go away". |
Posted By: Stormcharger
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:18pm
You do of course realize that the reason they are called illegal immigrants is that there is already a law to prevent people from crossing the border. The law needs to be enforced. The individual states through their governor can call upon the National Guard to do this. What I find funny is that farmers along the Mexican border have been shooting illegal immigrants that cross their property for years now averaging 6-10 injuries per month. But as you can see, everyone is up in arms over a group of citizens cunducting a non-violent protest about the government not enforcing laws passed by the will of the people. So, on the surface this is about illegal immigration, but the underlying struggle is that the majority of our country is being reminded that the direction of our country does not have to be determined by small groups of people with lawyers. |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:18pm
No we all didnt all "Start out as illeagles" ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:19pm
I doesnt matter what I think. It is your arguement. You are saying money that leaves the States is bad because it could be used to help the economy. If this is true according to your arguement you are also saying money that moves around in churches tax free is bad because it is not going into the economy. You cant have your cake and eat it too. -------------
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Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:23pm
So we owned this land when we got to it?
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:25pm
K, the church is like a box. The people that give money all put their money into the box. The pastor takes some, and pays taxes on it. The groundskeeper takes some, and pays his taxes. Then a chunk of it goes to charities. The government still gets money from it. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: WGP guy
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:25pm
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:26pm
Havent you heard? Americans own the world and get to do whatever they want. God said so. -------------
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:28pm
What do you mean by we? My family migrated from Ireland to france, stayed there for a couple hundred years then they came from france to here. LEGALY. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:29pm
Yeah but the church isnt getting a cut when the money goes into the box like it does at any other for-profit business. Therefore money that could be going into the economy is lost. -------------
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Posted By: WGP guy
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:29pm
More like, our Armed Forces and Strategic Air Command (with our Nuclear Arsenal) said so. |
Posted By: HondaXR
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:30pm
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hell i wish I was a border patrol...my motto would be "if it aint White waste it"... ------------- SL68II Pro/Am 68 Carbine |
Posted By: rancidpnk13
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:31pm
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I just don't understand how a person can be "illegal". I guess it's just me, but I can't imagine denying someone entrance into any country because they weren't born there. And the others are right, they take the jobs that none of us Americans want, because we are too good for those kinds of jobs. I work with legal immigrants at my Burger King and they send most of their money home to Ecuador, but they still buy cars in America, food in America, pay taxes to the American government, pay water bills, etc. So next time you get decide to get off your lazy ass and go through a drive-thru to get a Double Whopper with cheese, while you pay some poor man to mow your lawn, think about the PEOPLE that are doing these jobs for you. ------------- 
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:31pm
What are you two talking about! Do you know the survival rate of the first couple colonies? They are almost nill. I would be willing to bet your families at some point or another came through ellis island or paris island or whatever, point is they most likely got here legaly. Its a slap in the face to the people that work hard to get a green card and even harder to become a citizen. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:32pm
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HAHA, ignorance is truely bliss. -------------
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:33pm
Its not a for profit entity. Nor is it a business. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: rancidpnk13
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:35pm
i wish i couldve walked into the room when your parents were having sex and shot them both. -------------
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:35pm
My ancestors scalped Indians and stole their land. -------------
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Posted By: WGP guy
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:36pm
I hate cheese burgers, most fast food for that matter. And I mow my parent's lawn and 2 others. My parent's for $20 (1.5 acres), the other 2 for $35 (2 acres). I only do it when I am out of school though, don't know if i want to do it this year. |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:37pm
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I just wish I thought you were joking. |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:37pm
No they didnt. The indians didnt "own" land. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:38pm
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You pay taxes on that?
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:39pm
Guess he doesnt know all mexicans dont have brown skin. There are white mexicans, and black mexicans, and everything in between. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:40pm
His parents are just giving him money. He wasnt really providing a service specificaly for money. His parents could have easily said. Mow the damn lawn. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: rancidpnk13
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:41pm
Yeah, they were actually too smart to own land. But I guess wiping out entire cultures and burning down villages in search for gold and silver means you have the right to own the land. -------------
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:41pm
That is not relevant to the arguement. There is an possible oppertunity for the government to collect money that isnt being taken advantage upon. Who cares what someone spends their money on or what they do with it? I dont. But apperently some of you do and think it is wrong. I am going to burn my money so it cant be used to help our economy. Do I deserve to be shoot, too? Oh wait, I am a white American so according to the general thinking on this forum, it is wrong to do just that. -------------
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:44pm
It IS being taxed. And you would get in trouble for it. Its called destruction of government property. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: WGP guy
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:44pm
Underage. But I do pay taxes on what I use the money for. |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:45pm
I didnt say they owned land. I said that my ancestors took their land. -------------
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:46pm
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I missed the obvious point earlier... All who think that HondaXR is WORSE for the US - economically, culturally, personally, reputationally (is that a word?), socially, and in every other way possible - than your average illegal immigrant say "aye". Why are we working so hard to keep hard-working honest Mexicans out of the country - to protect people like him? THIS is what we are fighting for? Give me a Mexican any day. |
Posted By: WGP guy
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:47pm
their https://secure.reference.com/premium/login.html?rd=2&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdictionary.reference.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dtheir">  P Pronunciation Key (thār)adj. The possessive form of http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=they - they . Yes you are saying they owned it. * thanks dicitonary.com |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:48pm
So I guess then that underage illegals would be ok, since they wouldn't be paying taxes anyhow... And the illegals, of course, spend big piles of money in the US, and pay the same sales taxes that you do with your lawn money. |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:49pm
Your not being taxed when you had your money over to the church. I pay 8.25 cents in tax every time I spend a dollar at the store. Your not paying that when you put that money in the collection bin. Aye -------------
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Posted By: WGP guy
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:50pm
He isn't purchasing anything. And hades, you did a good job contradicting yourself 3 posts above. |
Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:50pm
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Oh. Dear. God. Are you serious? You must be sick in the head. You are
talking about shooting a human being who comes across the US border.
This isn't North Korea. We already have enough violence in this world.
Why would we shoot someone who wants to start a new life in a better
county??
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:51pm
Nope essentialy i am giving to a charity. And im not buying anything either. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: impulse
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:52pm
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All I have to say is this. Without mexicans you wouldn't be sitting in your house. No one would be cutting your grass. Bathrooms in public places would be disgusting. I'm not trying to stereotype of be racist but seeing they do the jobs that us (white americans) don't want to do. It might be differen't in the northern states but in Phoenix all the crappy jobs are done by Mexicans. So if you want them out so bad get reay to pick up a shovel and get dirty. ------------- 6,600 posts. I need a lifE |
Posted By: WGP guy
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:52pm
Because they have already commited a crime the second they come across. That kind of shows how their life will be. |
Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:53pm
And shooting them would be better than letting them come across? -------------
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Posted By: rancidpnk13
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:54pm
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I guess its just easier for people to say "No you aren't allowed" when they've never been not allowed into this country, and to say they are wasting the money by sending it home, when they've never jumped the fence to work 2 jobs everyday for 7.50 an hour to send some home so their children and families can eat. Imagine that, feeding your family, what a crazy thing to want to be able to do. -------------
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:55pm
| WGP Guy - did you read my initial post on page 3? Illegal immigrants contribute a lot more than most people think... |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:56pm
Its really what you value more. The safety of the US economy, or some mexican hick jumpin the fence not carring if he is breaking the law or not. It depends on what you really care about. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: rancidpnk13
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:56pm
So let me guess, you get one speeding ticket and I should be allowed to shoot you, because you knowingly commited a crime, so I can see how your life is going to be. -------------
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Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:56pm
A) I cut my grass B) I sometimes clean the bathroom at my work place C) I don't think there is one Mexican or Hispanic at my work place ------------- |
Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:58pm
I value the life of someone more than money. -------------
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Posted By: rancidpnk13
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 8:59pm
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sadly most do not -------------
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Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 9:00pm
God bless America. ------------- |
Posted By: WGP guy
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 9:01pm
| If they want in so bad, come legally. |
Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 9:01pm
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I value the life of another human being wanting to have a better life in a country that boasts of its freedom. I guess I got messed up priorities then... -------------
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Posted By: impulse
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 9:02pm
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A) Good for you. So do I but most people here don't. Also many lawn care for bunsiness and parks etc. have many illegal immigrants due to the fact they will do terrible jobs for cheap.
B)Good for you again. C)Where do you work? And where do you live. That oftens determines what race,sex of people that work. ------------- 6,600 posts. I need a lifE |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 9:03pm
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And noplace else. |
Posted By: rancidpnk13
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 9:03pm
well that ain't exactly easy now is it? or else everyone would come in legally, i'm sure they don't choose to be illegal for fun. I don't think you'd understand what they go through until you have to run across the border to have your kid, just make sure its life is better as an American, where ironically, people will talk about killing his mother on site for trying to make his life better. -------------
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 9:04pm
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You should try that sometime... The US immigration laws make it very very very difficult to immigrate legally. Heck, it can be hard just to get a tourist visa. |
Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 9:04pm
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I work at a cattoring(sp) place. Basically they cator on and
offsite jobs to a max of like 250 people. I live in the subarbs
of Philly PA. Norristown, not the city, to be more exact. I
know many hispanics and blacks, although the majority of the people I
know where I work are whites.
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 9:06pm
It wont stop if we turn a blind eye to the problem. They will just keep commin over and commin over until they figure out that if they get cough, a border patrolment will line him and his friends up in a line and execute them right then and there. This is the most extreme of measures. But the problem will not go away until illeagles know something will be done. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 9:07pm
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But how is illegal immigration a "problem"? And a problem to the point that it merits war to stop? |