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did i destroy my flatline?

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Topic: did i destroy my flatline?
Posted By: biggianthead
Subject: did i destroy my flatline?
Date Posted: 06 May 2005 at 11:45am
I wanted to clean my barrel, so i removed it from the reciever and ran the tippmann supplied squeegee through it.  Then, I ran it under hot water and dish soap (I put some inside the barrel and dunked it in some soapy water).  I looked inside as it was drying, and I don't really see any texture (this is basically my first time even looking inside the damn thing, so I'm not sure if there's been any change).  Yes, I know either way I'm an idiot.  I have only used it once so I'm just a little jumpy about the whole thing.

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Posted By: Stormcharger
Date Posted: 06 May 2005 at 12:08pm
Unless you use a wire brush or sandpaper, it's unlikely that barrel has been harmed.  The texture is a bead-blasted finish that is done to the metal not applied to it, so it won't come off unless you wear it down through use(more than 100000 rounds) or abrasives.  What you have described is the proper cleaning technique however, so don't worry about it.


Posted By: biggianthead
Date Posted: 06 May 2005 at 12:22pm
I heart you.  You're officially my little snuggle bunny.  Thanks.

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Posted By: biggianthead
Date Posted: 06 May 2005 at 12:27pm
Also, what's the best way to align the barrel perfectly with the receiver?

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Don't shoot! I'm a bush!


Posted By: triggerhappy1
Date Posted: 06 May 2005 at 3:19pm
The inside of the Flatline is glass blasted along with an adheisive to make a fine layer stick. It looks pretty smooth and shiny with water in it, so its normal. It takes a lot including 20,000+ shots to wear it down at all. The best way to align it is to loosen the bolt very slightly so you can just turn it a little, and twist it a tiny bit at a time. Dont forget to tighten the bolt, and make sure the barrel is all the way in the adapter.

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Posted By: biggianthead
Date Posted: 06 May 2005 at 5:17pm
jolly good.  Much thanks

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Don't shoot! I'm a bush!


Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 06 May 2005 at 6:33pm
The inside of the 98C flatline is actually smooth, so your good to go.

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JCS Dual Trigger
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Lapco Bigshot 14" Beadblasted

Optional setup:
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Posted By: Kirdro
Date Posted: 09 May 2005 at 11:37am
like he said, they sandblast it, but you might want to take one of the end-caps off the barrels and make sure that there is no rust in it. also, when you oil your gun, use only hoppes 9. anything else wreakes havok on the inside of your barrel.

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A-5, Response trigger, Flatline, Soon to own a expansion chamber.


Posted By: Millslane
Date Posted: 09 May 2005 at 12:22pm
the inside of the flatline is not as rough and textured as alot of people think. its not like tippmann glued 100 grit sandpaper inside and said "here ya go!".  its just not smooth, like all the rest


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Posted By: Bruce A. Frank
Date Posted: 02 June 2005 at 12:14am

Wow, I have never seen so many miss-statements in one set of posts. The Flatline is bead (sand) blasted on the inside to make it rough so that it provides enough friction for the ball to roll, which develops the backspin. When I say it is rough that is only compaired to a polished bore barrel. Most other barrels have virtually a mirror finish on the inside. The Flatline might be called a "matte" finish on the inside...no luster or gloss. There is nothing that can wash off. Soap and water is one of the best ways to clean it. The Tippmann squeegee works very well...use a little water with the squeegee between games and the barrel will stay in tip-top shooting condition.

As for oil: DO NOT GET OIL IN THE BARREL. It kills the friction and ruins the flat trajectory and accuracy. The oil is also very difficult to remove without going through the soap and hot water routine.

When you oil the gun action remove the barrel before you dry fire the marker (no paint) 10 to 20 times. This will distribute the oil through the action and, hopefully, blow the excess oil out of the action so it does not get deposited in the barrel when reinstalled.

Speaking of oil, there is not much needed. Two or three drops through the ASA each week. Hoppe's #9 OIL is good as is any pneumatic oil (do not, by mistake, use Hoppe's cleaning solution). I have found the power tube and the "O" ring on the hammer work very well with just a thin smear of lithium grease rather than light oil.



Posted By: Stormcharger
Date Posted: 02 June 2005 at 12:16pm
Miss-statment?  How do you figure?  Or are you just dyslexic.


Posted By: Bruce A. Frank
Date Posted: 02 June 2005 at 12:35pm

Originally posted by Stormcharger Stormcharger wrote:

Miss-statment?  How do you figure?  Or are you just dyslexic.

Oh, how about "The inside of the Flatline is glass blasted along with an adheisive to make a fine layer stick"  and  "the inside of the barrel is smooth" and "check for rust"

Maybe I should have phrased it "so many inaccurate statements."



Posted By: Bazz
Date Posted: 04 June 2005 at 4:04pm
u got told b i t c h


Posted By: Stormcharger
Date Posted: 06 June 2005 at 11:17am
Originally posted by Bruce A. Frank Bruce A. Frank wrote:

Originally posted by Stormcharger Stormcharger wrote:

Miss-statment?  How do you figure?  Or are you just dyslexic.

Oh, how about "The inside of the Flatline is glass blasted along with an adheisive to make a fine layer stick"  and  "the inside of the barrel is smooth" and "check for rust"

Maybe I should have phrased it "so many inaccurate statements."

Not one of those statements were mine.  Which was my point.  I was simply annoyed to be included in your nit picking post. 



Posted By: Grandominico
Date Posted: 06 June 2005 at 10:19pm

okay how about this the flatline looks smooth but is actually what bruce a. frank said. everyone happy?



Posted By: Grandominico
Date Posted: 06 June 2005 at 10:20pm

okay how about this the flatline looks smooth but is actually what bruce a. frank said. everyone happy?



Posted By: Grandominico
Date Posted: 06 June 2005 at 10:20pm

okay how about this the flatline looks smooth but is actually what bruce a. frank said. everyone happy?



Posted By: ItIsWhatItIs
Date Posted: 07 June 2005 at 12:30am
Can u have tippmann re-sandblast ur flatline???

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A-5
R/T
Flatline
Polished Internals


Posted By: SgtPoisonMiller
Date Posted: 07 June 2005 at 3:24am

Originally posted by Bazz Bazz wrote:

u got told b i t c h

you're effing kidding me, right?

I mean:
1. You waste an entire post with a short sentence segment, with bad grammar.
2. You waste an entire post to insult someone.
3. You bypass Tippmann's word filter.

Wow, just, wow...

Anyhow, personally I wouldve just done it with water. But whatever works for you.

Also, I have Hoppe's Elite Gun Oil, is this fine for my A5?



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Vforce Shield Standard (Green)
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 07 June 2005 at 3:30am
Ok, everyone relax.

The question got answered, he didnt do anything wrong, nor did he do damage.

To my knowledge, tippmann does not "re-finish" flatlines.


Posted By: SgtPoisonMiller
Date Posted: 07 June 2005 at 4:01am

Uhh, hell yes Tippmann re-blasts it, after 200,000 or so shots, when the original stuff wears off.

I thought this was common knowledge.



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A5 w/Remote, 68/45 Crossfire, Flatline, Ricochet R5, Tapco T6 Stock
Vforce Shield Standard (Green)
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 07 June 2005 at 12:09pm
If thats the case, I stand corrected. I don't own a flatline, so I never inquired about re-finishing.


Posted By: Bruce A. Frank
Date Posted: 08 June 2005 at 1:05am
Originally posted by Stormcharger Stormcharger wrote:

Originally posted by Bruce A. Frank Bruce A. Frank wrote:

Originally posted by Stormcharger Stormcharger wrote:

Miss-statement?  How do you figure?  Or are you just dyslexic.

Oh, how about "The inside of the Flatline is glass blasted along with an adhesive to make a fine layer stick"  and  "the inside of the barrel is smooth" and "check for rust"

Maybe I should have phrased it "so many inaccurate statements."

Not one of those statements were mine.  Which was my point.  I was simply annoyed to be included in your nit picking post. 

Hmmm, did I single you out? Did I say your (insert screen name) statements were the ones that caught my eye. If you said nothing incorrect, why would you conclude that my comment included your post. I had no need to quote anyone until you got irritated. I had made my clarifying post. Rather than the rest of us having to walk on egg shells and be "really" careful with the wording of our posts, you might need to get some more paintball game time in to reduce that edginess.

A writing technique to draw attention when something profound is about to be stated is to note that there are problems that need to be corrected

Now that last statement was intended to be tongue-in-cheek. I will have start to use more smiley faces so's not to be taken TOO seriously.



Posted By: Bruce A. Frank
Date Posted: 08 June 2005 at 1:09am

Originally posted by ItIsWhatItIs ItIsWhatItIs wrote:

Can you have Tippmann re-sandblast your Flatline???

Yes, they will do it for free. It just costs you the shipping.



Posted By: elton2522
Date Posted: 08 June 2005 at 9:48am
Hey Guys

I've got oil in my flatline!!!!

Whats the best soap to use. Can i use a degreaser or something like that? I dont want to damage it.


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Posted By: Bruce A. Frank
Date Posted: 08 June 2005 at 11:14am

Originally posted by elton2522 elton2522 wrote:

Hey Guys

I've got oil in my flatline!!!!

Whats the best soap to use. Can i use a degreaser or something like that? I dont want to damage it.

LOL! You cannot hurt the barrel unless you use a cleaner that is caustic and you leave it in the barrel for a week. Dish detergent works very well...with warm to hot water. Rinse with hot water after using swab. Squeegee it dry. Then push a wad of paper towel through the bore to get the last bit of moisture. And you are good to go.



Posted By: ItIsWhatItIs
Date Posted: 08 June 2005 at 12:58pm
Originally posted by Bruce A. Frank Bruce A. Frank wrote:

Originally posted by ItIsWhatItIs ItIsWhatItIs wrote:

Can you have Tippmann re-sandblast your Flatline???



Yes, they will do it for free. It just costs you the shipping.



Thanx

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It Is What It Is

A-5
R/T
Flatline
Polished Internals


Posted By: elton2522
Date Posted: 09 June 2005 at 3:37am
Originally posted by Bruce A. Frank Bruce A. Frank wrote:

Originally posted by elton2522 elton2522 wrote:

Hey Guys

I've got oil in my flatline!!!!

Whats the best soap to use. Can i use a degreaser or something like that? I dont want to damage it.

LOL! You cannot hurt the barrel unless you use a cleaner that is caustic and you leave it in the barrel for a week. Dish detergent works very well...with warm to hot water. Rinse with hot water after using swab. Squeegee it dry. Then push a wad of paper towel through the bore to get the last bit of moisture. And you are good to go.



Thanks man

I'll be cleaning it tonight!


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Posted By: 98tippy98
Date Posted: 09 June 2005 at 11:51pm
If you do "shoot out" a flatline...will it still work as like a barrel? I mean of course it isn't gonna get the same range but I am considering buying one but for 120.00 I don't wanna have it shoot out and be useless

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Posted By: Bruce A. Frank
Date Posted: 10 June 2005 at 3:43am

Originally posted by 98tippy98 98tippy98 wrote:

If you do "shoot out" a flatline...will it still work as like a barrel? I mean of course it isn't gonna get the same range but I am considering buying one but for 120.00 I don't wanna have it shoot out and be useless

Well, it will still shoot but just not with the flat trajectory. BUT, it will take a couple-a-hundred thousand shots to "wear it out."..unless you are picking up paint off the ground. Two barrels I bought off Ebay were "shot out." I cleaned them well with hot water and dish detergent and they both shot like new. The shell of paintballs leaves gelatin residue which will build up and reduce performance. You cannot even see it, performance just drops off...when it does just clean it!

As has been said on the forums before the barrel works with small to small-medium paint. All Star is good, but I am finding that Diablo Heat is just as good. But the barrel won't shoot accurately, or flat, with large paint (like Nelson Hot Spot)



Posted By: Sopha530
Date Posted: 17 June 2005 at 10:17am
i think it is fine, mine flatline looks smooth too, but when i touch it, it has texture, so try touching it and see.

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Posted By: Murdock
Date Posted: 17 June 2005 at 4:40pm

Am I wrong or are you supposed to put a drop of oil in your ASA before you use your gun? Some of that has to get in the barrel right? Or the air blows oil from the front bolt into the barrel, so isn't it almost impossable not to get oil in the barrel?

By the way, I've actualy covered a swab squeegee with goldcup lube and ran it through my flatline with the intent of oiling it up and never had a problem with it firing.



Posted By: Millslane
Date Posted: 18 June 2005 at 1:24am
you can take the barrel of before you dry fire, spreading the oil you know. 

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Posted By: tigman250
Date Posted: 18 June 2005 at 11:34pm
Originally posted by Murdock Murdock wrote:

Am I wrong or are you supposed to put a drop of oil in your ASA before you use your gun? Some of that has to get in the barrel right? Or the air blows oil from the front bolt into the barrel, so isn't it almost impossable not to get oil in the barrel?

By the way, I've actualy covered a swab squeegee with goldcup lube and ran it through my flatline with the intent of oiling it up and never had a problem with it firing.

take your barrel off before firing the oil through it. if you have oil in your barrel it's not that it won't shoot it just dosen't perform as well, unlike ALL other barrels the flatline requires friction



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