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Topic: Flateline Bolt
Posted By: TippmannEFX
Subject: Flateline Bolt
Date Posted: 29 May 2005 at 4:52pm
I made a bolt that puts a back spin on paintballs, it fits in a A5 and 98 customs. It saves you 100 bucks

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Posted By: TippmannEFX
Date Posted: 29 May 2005 at 4:56pm
I think Angel has one to ,, someone does

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Posted By: MT. Vigilante
Date Posted: 29 May 2005 at 9:00pm

So you are saying that you designed it, or are you just saying that you have one. I want to see it and know how it works.

I NEED MORE INFO.!!!!!!! LOL!!!



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Posted By: Monk
Date Posted: 29 May 2005 at 9:35pm
Im betting it doesnt get the range of a flatline.


Posted By: Klaus
Date Posted: 29 May 2005 at 10:50pm
did you just put the ball detent (that little orange thing) on the topside of the bolt?


Posted By: MT. Vigilante
Date Posted: 29 May 2005 at 11:10pm

Hey Monk, I found the perfect picture for your sig! Sorry I didn't mean to Hijack this thread or post somthing really off topic (even though I just did). It's just that I saw this picture and thought of your avatar. It's a little bit big though, you'd have to resize it if you did use it.



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Posted By: TippmannEFX
Date Posted: 30 May 2005 at 8:17am

Ok, you know how the ball gets a backspin right, well i took the stock bolt out and drilled 4 hole on the bottom half of were it hits the paintballs. So in turn more air is pushed out those holes/grooves I drilled. Now the more air is pushed out the mor backspin it has. The Proto type I made has one hole to far to the right so all the balls shoot a little right( I should have taken my time) If ya still can understand let me know

 



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Posted By: Pariel
Date Posted: 30 May 2005 at 9:48am
I call shens. Your idea doesn't work when you apply Newtonian physics. That, and having seen it tried before, by people with far more mechanical and intellectual skill than you, and it not working then, I doubt it works now.


Posted By: Ariakon_Eagle
Date Posted: 30 May 2005 at 11:43am
Its a really old idea. Tried by many people like Pariel said. If it did work, companies would have done it a long time ago.

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Posted By: sinisterNorth
Date Posted: 30 May 2005 at 12:43pm
Nice attempt. In thought it sounds good, but I dont think it would do well in performence.

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Posted By: Millslane
Date Posted: 30 May 2005 at 9:09pm
i don't know, it sounds good, but backspin has to come from the ball actuall spinning off something, air cannot just to it because once the bolt moves forward, releasing the air to the bottom of the ball, thats all it gets. it needs to be turning the ball all the way down the barrel and out of it. just the initial blast i don't think is enough.

with the flatline, it takes the whole barrel moving the pb down and up the curved part to get the backspin. same with when a golfer hit a ball and puts backspin on it. the backspin comes from the contact with the club. it needs the contact with a real, hard surface to produce backspin.


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Posted By: GhilleMan
Date Posted: 30 May 2005 at 9:17pm
ya i made a barrel that generates the paintballs, so you need no loader, or paint!.......



considering you can't spell flat right, I doubt you could have made that

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Posted By: MT. Vigilante
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 10:36am

Originally posted by Millslane Millslane wrote:

i don't know, it sounds good, but backspin has to come from the ball actuall spinning off something, air cannot just to it...

Actually air can do it alone, have you ever heard of a Hop-up barrel? It accomplishes the same effect a flatline has, only a hop-up barrel does it with air pressure. It has three grooves at the top of the barrel so that when you fire there is less pressure upon the top of the ball than there is on the bottom, thus creating backspin.



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Posted By: Sentinelz
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 10:44am

I wonder If I made an adjustable barrel for woods that could put a certain spin on a ball to make it curve around bunkers would people buy it?

Millslane I have put backspin on a golf ball once in my life any other time it goes about ten-twenty feet and slices so sharp I think it's comin back to me...



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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 11:33am
A bolt? Too bad that wouldn't work.

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Posted By: DeadGeorge52
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 6:03pm
What if Someone took a junk barrel, and using a dremel or something like that, roughed up the top most part of the inside of the barrel. The top would then create more friction on the paintball, allowing backspin to occur. As long as the barrel wasn't roughed up enough to rip open the paintball, it seems like it has a chance of working.

Would it lose all lateral accuracy though?


Posted By: MT. Vigilante
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 11:41pm

Originally posted by DeadGeorge52 DeadGeorge52 wrote:

What if Someone took a junk barrel, and using a dremel or something like that, roughed up the top most part of the inside of the barrel. The top would then create more friction on the paintball, allowing backspin to occur. As long as the barrel wasn't roughed up enough to rip open the paintball, it seems like it has a chance of working.

Would it lose all lateral accuracy though?

Well, there is really no way a roughed up barrel could be accurate. Besides, friction is only bad for paintballs.



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Posted By: Sentinelz
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 12:32am
Would anyone buy my barrel idea?

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Posted By: Monk
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 12:43am
Originally posted by Sentinelz Sentinelz wrote:

Would anyone buy my barrel idea?


Flatline can already do that.

As for the roughing of the top of the barrel, some people tried it.

It didnt work to well.


Posted By: Sentinelz
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 2:44am
Yeah but it would be cheaper than flatline and it won't have backspin in turn...

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Posted By: Monk
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 4:06pm
Originally posted by Sentinelz Sentinelz wrote:

Yeah but it would be cheaper than flatline and it won't have backspin in turn...


Then how will it spin/turn around a tree?

Seriously....

Is it going to use magical fairy dust...


Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 5:37pm
Undershot bolts arent new. Neither are hop-up barrels.

Both are patented anyway.


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Posted By: vonfeldt7
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 8:16pm
i have an idea to make the ball go further, and it doesnt include the bolt OR the barrel. A golfball gets backspin because of all the little demples(however you spell it) on it, well if you made a paintball with demples in it, wouldnt it go further? (i asked thsi question a few months ago, but i never found the topic again so yeah idk what people thought of it). The only problem i can think of with my idea is that when paintball is shot, doesn't it temperaraly(however you spell it) take the shape of a football? Tell me what you think of my idea thx

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Posted By: GhilleMan
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 10:49pm
Originally posted by Enos Shenk Enos Shenk wrote:

Undershot bolts arent new. Neither are hop-up barrels.

Both are patented anyway.



everyone just listen to Enos.....

He's better at life than most of you can hope to be

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Posted By: Bruce A. Frank
Date Posted: 02 June 2005 at 1:09am

Originally posted by vonfeldt7 vonfeldt7 wrote:

i have an idea to make the ball go further, and it doesnt include the bolt OR the barrel. A golfball gets backspin because of all the little demples(however you spell it) on it, well if you made a paintball with demples in it, wouldnt it go further? (i asked thsi question a few months ago, but i never found the topic again so yeah idk what people thought of it). The only problem i can think of with my idea is that when paintball is shot, doesn't it temperaraly(however you spell it) take the shape of a football? Tell me what you think of my idea thx

Actually this should work, and I have read that ball makers have tried. So far they have not been able to develop a method to make those dipples stay. The paintballs become smooth over storage time.  



Posted By: cb_neosythe
Date Posted: 02 June 2005 at 3:47am
yea producing a paintball that would have Natural dimples like a golf
ball would be very difficult.


Posted By: kuhndog599
Date Posted: 16 August 2005 at 12:47pm
Originally posted by vonfeldt7 vonfeldt7 wrote:

i have an idea to make the ball go further, and it doesnt include the bolt OR the barrel. A golfball gets backspin because of all the little demples(however you spell it) on it, well if you made a paintball with demples in it, wouldnt it go further? (i asked thsi question a few months ago, but i never found the topic again so yeah idk what people thought of it). The only problem i can think of with my idea is that when paintball is shot, doesn't it temperaraly(however you spell it) take the shape of a football? Tell me what you think of my idea thx
they say its too hard to get the dimples and that it would have to be a thicker shell

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Posted By: dmp4892
Date Posted: 17 August 2005 at 11:18am

BT already makes a barrel that you twist so it spins in different directions

looks to complicated to me. I dont like my balls curving



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Posted By: antman
Date Posted: 17 August 2005 at 2:38pm
MT. Vigilante, we aren't talking about airsoft


Posted By: burntside
Date Posted: 31 August 2005 at 1:09am

Dimples work by breaking suction between the ball and air so they should increase range by preventing the balls from slowing down over a long distance.  It wouldn't give the ball lift, though, like the backspin of a golfball off a golf club or a paintball out of a flatline.

Also, I attempted making the flatline bolt by actually covering up the entire top half of the front bolt by glueing a piece of plexy-glass to the inside of the bolt and sanding it to fit the curvature of a paintball.  In my testing, there was no change in range from the stock design.



Posted By: littlebreadman
Date Posted: 31 August 2005 at 1:00pm
Originally posted by Sentinelz Sentinelz wrote:

I wonder If I made an adjustable barrel for woods that could put a certain spin on a ball to make it curve around bunkers would people buy it?


Millslane I have put backspin on a golf ball once in my life any other time it goes about ten-twenty feet and slices so sharp I think it's comin back to me...



its been done by BT its called the apex. you can turn it so it puts back spin and side spin on the ball. it also has a little lever that you can raise up and down to increase the spin on the ball. it controls a little rubber peice that hits the top of the ball. too much work for me i will just do it the old fasion way



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