Qui-Gon
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Topic: Qui-Gon
Posted By: Ilovepaintball1
Subject: Qui-Gon
Date Posted: 30 May 2005 at 11:54pm
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What was Qui-Gons last name? You know in Star Wars Episode
1. He got killed by Dark Maul. In Episode 2 it says Master
Siphadeiz ordered the clone army. Does Qui-Gon=Master
Siphadeiz? I was wondering this because in Star Wars time Episode
1 and 2 are 10 years apart. But Obi-Won says Master Siphadiez
ordered this after he was died, but in Episode 3 at the end they said
Qui-Gon was immortal. So yeah. I was a little confused by
this. I bet you're a little confused. No Anti-Star Wars posts. ------------- 
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Posted By: NotDaveEllis
Date Posted: 30 May 2005 at 11:54pm
| Jin |
Posted By: BARREL BREAK
Date Posted: 30 May 2005 at 11:55pm
| Damn, i wanted to answer |
Posted By: NotDaveEllis
Date Posted: 30 May 2005 at 11:55pm
| I knew that because of the Weird Al song BTW |
Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 30 May 2005 at 11:55pm
Sure you did. ------------- 
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NotDaveEllis wrote:Posted By: Smitty
Date Posted: 30 May 2005 at 11:56pm
| Oh. I was gonna say Gons. |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 30 May 2005 at 11:57pm
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 30 May 2005 at 11:58pm
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I don't think it says Qui gon is immortal. I think it says he is
amazing. He is amazing to enough to do what Obi Wan does in either 4,
5, or 6 when Anakin talks to him.
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Posted By: Strife_17
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 12:00am
| Qui-Gon Jin is the man!!! i wanna be Just like you Qui-Gon |
Posted By: xteam
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 12:02am
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Posted By: Kpoofs
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 12:04am
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How can you not remember his last name...it blended with the rest of it.
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Posted By: Hysteria
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 12:16am
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Posted By: Ilovepaintball1
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 12:18am
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Then who the hell was Master Siphadiez. It says he died around
the same time as episode 1 and he ordered the clone army for the
republic.
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 12:22am
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It doesn't say that?
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Posted By: Quoteman5000
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 12:50am
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 1:06am
Qui Gon is imortal. Yoda tells whatsisface at the very end all about it. Thats how whatsisface vanishes and turns blue... ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors"> 
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Posted By: Ilovepaintball1
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 1:13am
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Qui-Gon jin is immortal. He teaches Obi-Won how to be immortal. Thats why Obi-Won is able to talk to Luke. Thats why he let Darth Vader hit him with Vader's lightsaber because he didn't want to stall Luke, Han Solo, Chewbacca, and Leah from escaping the empire's ship. After he was hit by the lightsaber from Darth Vader he disapeared and Vader even knew he was immortal. Thats why he felt Obi-Wons cloak with his foot after he disapeared. -------------
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 1:15am
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ok.........................................................
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 1:16am
Yep.. Its cool bein imortal i guess. But you have to run around being all blue and such. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Ilovepaintball1
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 1:18am
Um, no. Thats just how they communicated, like cell phones. -------------
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Posted By: rockerdoode
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 1:20am
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that would be a tough one to explain to any women you brought home...i mean, even if you got wasted at a bar, im pretty sure she would notice some places being bright, neon blue... ------------- "According to Sue Johanson, theres nothing that can increase your manhood, trust me I've already looked into it for myself." -Zata |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 1:20am
Jesus... Ok then.. I was just pointing out, it would suck for a fasionably consious jedi.. you dont have to get all snooty about it, goodness.. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Ilovepaintball1
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 1:22am
Sorry. I didn't mean to come off "Snoody" -------------
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Posted By: Hysteria
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 1:23am
Sar - cas - em. Sarcasm. He is using it. |
Posted By: Ilovepaintball1
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 1:24am
Sarcasm? Oh I could have swarn he was using adderall(sp?).  -------------
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 1:25am
Look at the bright side(he he) There would be no fumbling around in the dark.  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Darur
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 1:26am
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 1:29am
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Well, look at the lightsabers... You may be right. Instead of an M3 BMW. You get a really long lightsaber. Or if you are really insecure, you get a double sided lightsaber. EI darth maul and junks. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Bauerp0weR 18
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 6:35am
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Aren't Jedi supposed to be selfless anyway? hmm... I dunno I think Syfadias (sp) is just some random jedi they put into the movie to make the whole story line flow... you don't actually see him. And if Qui Gon gets imortal and teaches Obi Wan, howcome Qui Gon gets stabbed and Obi Wan just dissappears...? oh well just cause of the technology and special effects I guess... ------------- Black Smart Parts Ion Halo B Check-It Unimount macroline 68/45 Pure Energy tank |
Posted By: Sammy
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 8:40am
That was almost funny.  ------------- 
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Posted By: Betterdays
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 11:29am
Master Siphodius (sp?) was a Jedi Master who died prior to the events in episode I. Remember though, he had nothing to do with purchasing the clone army. It was really either Darth Sidious or one of his agents masquerading as a Jedi.
Qui-Gon was the first to be a "Force Ghost" and he gained that power after he had crossed over to the other side. Obi-Wan and Yoda learned how (from Qui-Gon) while they were still alive. And yeah it was just a plot device to explain away why all the Jedi couldn't do it. |
Posted By: Ejp414
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 1:22pm
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This is quite possibly the best thread ever.
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 2:39pm
Ah.. You have just given me an idea. Maybe, sipher diaz and darth sidious are the same person. They say he dies. But maybe he didnt, he just went to the dark side, i bet its one of those dealies like how they say Darth Vader kills anikin skywalker. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: cdacda13
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 2:56pm
You said what i was going to say. |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 3:05pm
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Thats why i dont think the stories were writen consecutively. Too many things didnt quite fit very well. And they went backwards to explain things. And it was a bit ackward. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: cdacda13
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 3:06pm
My friend reads star wars books, everything about the movies are explained in there. |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 3:13pm
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Like what?
Edit: See the reason i dont think they were writen all in a row 1-9 is mainly because, episode 4 5 and 6 were all kinda dark. People got tortured, people died. Then you go to episode one. And the thing is about Pod racing and some flitsy kid. The movie was for 6 year olds. And that idiot jar jar. When i saw episode one. I said "By the pricking of my gums, something stupid this way comes." ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Betterdays
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 3:24pm
The basic story arc has been around since at least the 70's. As kids we all knew the overall story. You are right about the actual scripts though. Those were "written" as each movie came out. Regarding the Epsiode I stupidity...Lucas was trying to convey a "feeling" of the Good Old Days of the Republic. So things were cutsey to counterbalance the Darker days of the Empire. It was a bad bad idea. |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 3:26pm
I knew it. DAMNATION! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Bauerp0weR 18
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 4:46pm
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Well according to what I've absorbed the whole reasoning for Lucas for making the movies out of order was because he "doesn't like making beginnings". The things you have to consider is that the timespan from when Star Wars movies first came out and today is that there is about a 30 year gap (real life) and the technology that we have now is a lot better, not to mention the mentality of people today as compared to earlier years. Have you ever noticed how nowdays movies usually always try to force in humorous lines into a script in many situations where normally they wouldn't be funny? That kind of shows why the newer movies have a bit of a lighter side to them rather then its original trilogy. That is interesting though, I never thought about Master Syphadias until DBibeau mentioned that, except I would think it would be Count Dooku rather than Sidious, that just makes more sense in my mind. ------------- Black Smart Parts Ion Halo B Check-It Unimount macroline 68/45 Pure Energy tank |
Posted By: cdacda13
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 4:51pm
| Lucas said himself that 4,5,6 were better than 1,2,3. Thats the reason why he did 4-6 first, because it would selll better. If The phaton menace came out first, i doubt any studios would fund any other star war movies. |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 5:04pm
But count dokus name was Darth Tyranis. That was his sith name, i wonder what his jedi name was. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: lester98c
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 5:47pm
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im guesing that there going to rerealse the 3-6 set again but all redone again.then come out with a big expensive 6 movie box |
Posted By: WGP guy
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 6:01pm
Do you mean 4-6? |
Posted By: pb125
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 6:15pm
I think episode three was the best, followed by 4,5,6, . Episode one was the worst. ------------- 
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Posted By: Ilovepaintball1
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 6:17pm
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Episode 1 wasn't bad. Nor Was Episode 2. The were all explaining and leading up to 4,5, and 6.
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 6:25pm
I dont think there is a soul older than 12 that will agree with you there. |
Posted By: Sammy
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 6:40pm
Where did he say that? -------------
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Posted By: Bauerp0weR 18
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 9:08pm
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Yeah I know that Dookus Sith name is Tyranis, but that's what I'm getting at, possibly his Jedi name was Syphadias, just a thought... ^and to whoever said that they will redo the 1st trilogy, I highly doubt that... except maybe digitally remastering it i guess, but if they tryed fiddling with it I would predict a lot of people would get angry because then it wouldn't be the original anymore and it would just be stupid, that's my thought anyway. Why fix something that doesn't need to be fixed... the Star Wars of old isn't what today's standards would be considered "state of the art" such as episode III is but there's no reason to touch it so I say let it be. ------------- Black Smart Parts Ion Halo B Check-It Unimount macroline 68/45 Pure Energy tank |
Posted By: Pariel
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 9:12pm
Fixed it for you. I hate those movies with a passion. It's intense. |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 9:21pm
Yeah i think Syphadiaz might be Dookus jedi name. But they wont redo the old episodes, fan boys hem and hawed enough about remastering the old ones. Completely redoing them would cause the epocolypse. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Pariel
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 9:23pm
| Actually, sometime in the next few years, once one of the new disks wins out, they're going to digitally remaster everything, and add some cool new scenes, possibly make one and two good, stuff like that. |
Posted By: Kristofer
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 9:37pm
| ok. Sifo-Dyas died before Epsiode I. In Episode II Obi-Wan says that Sifo-Dyas ordered the creation of the clone army but then says he was under the impression that he had died before that. Yoda then replies that its scary and he will think on it. Dont forget Jango Fett says that he was recruiter by a man called Tyrannus. Tyrannus is Count Dooku. I dont think Dooku is Sifo-Dyas. because he is known by all as Dooku and no one ever mentioned him as Sifo-Dyas. Yoda would have definatly mentioned that if they were the same. Dooku was his Jedi name most likely, and Tyrannus was his Sith name. So in my conclusion I believe the only person who had the ability to delete something from the archives would be Dooku as he was a Jedi who left. I believe he was one of the 22 or 21 lost Jedi. Jedi who left the order. He than pretended to be Sifo-Dyas ordered the troops got Jango, had them created then started plans for the creation of the Separatist Droid Army. Palpatine was a genius.he had one heck of a plan eh? |
Posted By: Kristofer
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 9:40pm
Yes. In 2007 they will be releasing the original three in a 3-D special edition (again) format. They wont have the blank backgrounds. it will be all episdoe three backgrouding. i am still sad that removed the original vader (sebastian shaw) and put in haiden for the ghost scene in episode VI |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 9:41pm
Count Dooku did get Jango Fet, it says so in Star Wars: Bountyhunter 
I think count dooku is just his name. Syphadiaz is his Jedi name and we all know Lord Tyrannis is his sith name. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Kristofer
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 9:46pm
If that were so. Why wasnt it mentioned by any of the Jedi in Episode II? Especially Yoda or Obi-Wan? |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 9:47pm
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Why wasnt what mentioned. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Bauerp0weR 18
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 10:44pm
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So basically he would be the Syphadias that we know if we could place a name and a face... I'm not saying that he actually is him but as you said pretended to be him, anyway it makes it better having someone as Syphadias instead of "yeah Syphadias was a Jedi... yeah he died... ummm.... yeah" ------------- Black Smart Parts Ion Halo B Check-It Unimount macroline 68/45 Pure Energy tank |
Posted By: bezerker84
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 10:56pm
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Posted By: Hysteria
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 11:20pm
Having trouble capitalizing? |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 11:22pm
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Get along ya'll. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: rockerdoode
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 11:48pm
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Nerd fight? ------------- "According to Sue Johanson, theres nothing that can increase your manhood, trust me I've already looked into it for myself." -Zata |
Posted By: Hysteria
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 2:15am
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Posted By: Fatman Lash
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 2:23am
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Im not sure if this has been fully cleared up or not because I was too lazy to read past page 1. Qui-Gon Jin was not immortal nor was Yoda and Obi-Won. At the end of Episode III, Yoda tells Obi-Won he has more training for him. When Obi asks what training Yoda replies that an old friend has journied to the nether world of the force and learned of a way to come back. He is however still very much dead, he can simply communicate with that of the living. As for the Master Jedi who ordered the Clone army, it was a completely different person that Qui-Gon Or Dooku. Its like In Episode III when Mace Windu is talking to Yoda and Obi-Won about not trusting Anakin, Yoda mentions something about a former Jedi who fit the description of the "chosen one" but turned to the darkside. So I dont remember who said it, but whoever said Master Syph(forgot the rest) was a rondom name thrown in is correct. You have to remember that there were hundreds of Jedi before the Empire destroyed them. I hope my nerdyness has helped eveyone better understand the looser side of these forums...... thank you and have a good day. ------------- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/FatmanLash/Paintball/grassviewleft.jpg"> 
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Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 2:28am
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Posted By: rockerdoode
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 2:32am
I guess not...damn... ------------- "According to Sue Johanson, theres nothing that can increase your manhood, trust me I've already looked into it for myself." -Zata |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 2:34am
Of course he is immortal, just because his body is dead, doesnt mean he isnt still living. His soul or whatever. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 2:13pm
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Posted By: Ejp414
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 2:16pm
Yeah, technically it's referred to as "comic relief." American filmmaking has completely raped the concept, I'm afraid to say. ------------- __________________ __________________ |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 2:59pm
I havent watched 4-6 in a while. But i think those movies did have a certain amount of humorous lines. I dont believe its new to the franchise. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Ejp414
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 3:06pm
I wasn't talking about Star Wars; I mean American filmmaking in general. ------------- __________________ __________________ |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 3:10pm
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I know, there used to be a time where comedy reliefe was timed correctly and used sparingly. Now, its really really abused, kinda like the middle stepchild. It sucks. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: XGhostX
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 9:03pm
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Lets see where to begin.. Anyone remember when Anakin is at the lightshow with the emperor and the emperor tells him about the very powerful sith lord? He says there was a sith Lord so powerful he could save people from dying and he even convinced the mandalorians (the people who made the clone army) to clone an army. The emperor then goes on to hint that he was an apprentice to this sith lord. The emperor says "oddly enough he could save people from dying, but he couldn't save himself. His apprentice killed him in his sleep" Therefore after having way to much free time on my hands and analyzing this, Darth Sidious' (the emperor) master ordered the clone armies built for the republic. As to why... who knows ------------- http://www.teamareola.com/Maps/saddam_pwned.gif - MyLink Quietly observing the Forumn since May of 2003 |
