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Topic: 10 most harmful books
Posted By: Badsmitty
Subject: 10 most harmful books
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 11:14pm

Here you go...

http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=7591 - http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=7591

 




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Posted By: pb125
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 11:14pm


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Posted By: mbro
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 11:17pm
do you just go to fark and post all the links here? because we could seriously just cut out the middle man, you, and go to http://www.fark.com - Fark.com

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Posted By: PlentifulBalls
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 11:18pm
OH NOEZ! TEH COMMUNISTS GONNA GET US!

Red Scare! Red Scare!


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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 11:19pm

Cool.

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Posted By: cdacda13
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 11:19pm
pb125, just cause you dont read, doesn't mean you have to ruin it for everyone.
The Communist Manifesto was pretty good. My histroy teacher let us read some chapters, and i was impressed how well Marx explained everything.
Mein Kampf,Although it was fulled with hate, was decent. It showed hitlers(all be it misplaced) hate. Remember, Hitler fixed germany's econmonic problems when he came to power.


Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 11:21pm
No, Mein Kampf was horrible, it was full of errors, spelling, grammatical, continuity, it was drivel. Hitler was a horrible writer.

A genius orator, but a pitiful writer.

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Posted By: BLand
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 11:21pm
Originally posted by pb125 pb125 wrote:



Wow, you have no idea how hard I laughed when I realized what you posted.


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Posted By: Badsmitty
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 11:21pm

Originally posted by mbro mbro wrote:

do you just go to fark and post all the links here? because we could seriously just cut out the middle man, you, and go to http://www.fark.com - Fark.com

But if I did post a link to Fark, one of the younguns may see something they shouldn't and I'd get dinged.  It is a great place for news though.  Besides, we middlemen need jobs, too.



Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 11:23pm
Originally posted by Badsmitty Badsmitty wrote:

Originally posted by mbro mbro wrote:

do you just go to fark and post all the links here? because we could seriously just cut out the middle man, you, and go to http://www.fark.com - Fark.com


But if I did post a link to Fark, one of the younguns may see something they shouldn't and I'd get dinged. It is a great place for news though. Besides, we middlemen need jobs, too.



Oh goodness..

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Posted By: Ejp414
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 11:35pm
Originally posted by mbro mbro wrote:

do you just go to fark and post all the links here? because we could seriously just cut out the middle man, you, and go to http://www.fark.com - Fark.com


Then stay on Fark and do it, Mbro. That way you'll never have to read (or post in) these threads.

Pertaining to the original post: wow.


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Posted By: SuperXero
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 11:38pm
Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

No, Mein Kampf was horrible, it was full of errors, spelling, grammatical, continuity, it was drivel. Hitler was a horrible writer.

A genius orator, but a pitiful writer.


Well, considering he was once about an inch away from taking over the world, as well as writing this book between prison rapings and beatings (those crazeh Germans), I'd say that we can excuse him.

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Posted By: Dazed
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 10:49am
Originally posted by The delusional author The delusional author wrote:

portraying capitalism as an ugly phase in the development of human society in which capitalists inevitably and amorally exploit labor by paying the cheapest possible wages to earn the greatest possible profits. ...He could not have predicted 21st Century America: a free, affluent society based on capitalism and representative government that people the world over envy and seek to emulate.


Does anyone else fid these sentences funny, and their author all the more pitiable for truly believing them.


Posted By: TruePaintballer
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 10:58am
Karl Marx got two nominations...he must be satan

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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 11:08am
no harry potter???







j/k


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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 11:12am
Originally posted by BLand BLand wrote:


Originally posted by pb125 pb125 wrote:




Wow, you have no idea how hard I laughed when I realized what you posted.
I also laughed when I saw that.

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Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 11:14am
these books are not harmful,  there just the most hamrful agianst Capitalism, the most harmful book out that gets people killed EVERYDAY is none other then... The Holy Bible.

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Posted By: reifidom
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 11:15am
Do these people not realize that they're simply composing a reading list for more open minded people and those not so weak of will that a book of contrary ideas is to be feared?

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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 11:18am
Originally posted by reifidom reifidom wrote:

Do these people not realize that they're simply composing a reading list for more open minded people and those not so weak of will that a book of contrary ideas is to be feared?


I read "The Davinci Code"...does that count?


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Posted By: reifidom
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 11:20am
Sure, why not. If you're reading at all you've got an advantage over millions of others.

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Posted By: WGP guy
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 11:47am
Originally posted by Panda Man Panda Man wrote:

these books are not harmful,  there just the most hamrful agianst Capitalism, the most harmful book out that gets people killed EVERYDAY is none other then... The Koran.


fixed


Posted By: goodsmitty
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 11:50am

Quote


Author: Freidrich Nietzsche
Publication date: 1886
Score: 28
SummaryHere Nietzsche argued that men are driven by an amoral “Will to Power,” and that superior men will sweep aside religiously inspired moral rules, which he deemed as artificial as any other moral rules, to craft whatever rules would help them dominate the world around them.

Yeah, given today's political climate, I would want this book to go away also.



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Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 11:50am
The Koran is based of the Holy bible... 

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Posted By: goodsmitty
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 11:53am

Originally posted by mbro mbro wrote:

do you just go to fark and post all the links here? because we could seriously just cut out the middle man, you, and go to http://www.fark.com - Fark.com

Why don't you post a link to more pictures of yourself and occupy your day looking at them.



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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 11:55am
actually is Q'uoran or something like that Koran is the american-english spelling

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Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 12:07pm
why does it matter?

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Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 12:12pm

"Harmful" book? If people can't handle reading a book without becoming warped by its philosophies, than we truly have a simple race. Just because you read a book of communism doesn't make you a communist, it simply means that, unlike the drooling TV zombies America generally consists of, you decided to investigate one of the most influential books in history. It's a shame people have abandoned knowledge for the security that the make-believe shows on TV provide. If you can't read Mein Kampf without adopting its philosophies, have your head checked.



Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 12:26pm
Originally posted by Panda Man Panda Man wrote:

why does it matter?


it doesn't, if you were talking to me, i was just putting out some knowledge, is that such a bad thing?


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Posted By: WGP guy
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 12:33pm
Originally posted by Panda Man Panda Man wrote:

The Koran is based of the Holy bible... 


Based, but it influences Muslims to harm others.  The Bible teaches love and kindness.


Posted By: mbro
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 12:38pm
Originally posted by WGP guy WGP guy wrote:


Originally posted by Panda Man Panda Man wrote:

The Koran is based of the Holy bible...


Based, but it influences Muslims to harm others. The Bible teaches love and kindness.

HAHAHAHHAHAHA.....NO.

Do you honestly think the bible hasn't been used for justification of killing people? How about those lovely crusades where christians rode into the middle east and tickled muslims with feathers to be nice. Oh, wait, They slaughter anyone that got in their way. Saying the Koran is the most harmful book is one of the biggest bigot statements I have ever heard. Not all muslims are extremests, just very few. Just as not all christians are extremests. The crazy ones are the ones that get attention.

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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 12:39pm
Originally posted by mbro mbro wrote:

Originally posted by WGP guy WGP guy wrote:


Originally posted by Panda Man Panda Man wrote:

The Koran is based of the Holy bible...


Based, but it influences Muslims to harm others. The Bible teaches love and kindness.

HAHAHAHHAHAHA.....NO.

Do you honestly think the bible hasn't been used for justification of killing people? How about those lovely crusades where christians rode into the middle east and tickled muslims with feathers to be nice. Oh, wait, They slaughter anyone that got in their way. Saying the Koran is the most harmful book is one of the biggest bigot statements I have ever heard. Not all muslims are extremests, just very few. Just as not all christians are extremests. The crazy ones are the ones that get attention.


it wasnt just the christians riding into the holy land, jews, muslims, and catholics all participated equally in that particular feud


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Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 12:40pm

Originally posted by WGP guy WGP guy wrote:

Originally posted by Panda Man Panda Man wrote:

The Koran is based of the Holy bible... 


Based, but it influences Muslims to harm others.  The Bible teaches love and kindness.

Crusades anyone? David Koresh? Jim Jones? Purple Kool-Aide?

A book only teaches what the people make of it. The Koran doesnt say "harm others", but some idiots read it that way and make it look bad for the rest.

 



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Posted By: RenegadeGopher
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 12:48pm
I must say WGP. Whoever taught you about middle eastern cultures is an idiot.


Posted By: WGP guy
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 12:55pm
Originally posted by usafpilot07 usafpilot07 wrote:

Originally posted by mbro mbro wrote:

Originally posted by WGP guy WGP guy wrote:


Originally posted by Panda Man Panda Man wrote:

The Koran is based of the Holy bible...


Based, but it influences Muslims to harm others. The Bible teaches love and kindness.

HAHAHAHHAHAHA.....NO.

Do you honestly think the bible hasn't been used for justification of killing people? How about those lovely crusades where christians rode into the middle east and tickled muslims with feathers to be nice. Oh, wait, They slaughter anyone that got in their way. Saying the Koran is the most harmful book is one of the biggest bigot statements I have ever heard. Not all muslims are extremests, just very few. Just as not all christians are extremests. The crazy ones are the ones that get attention.


it wasnt just the christians riding into the holy land, jews, muslims, and catholics all participated equally in that particular feud


Actually it was Catholics mainly, with some Christians and Jews riding to take the land from Muslims.  (I think, been so long since I learned about that)


Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 12:57pm

Originally posted by WGP guy WGP guy wrote:

Originally posted by usafpilot07 usafpilot07 wrote:

Originally posted by mbro mbro wrote:

Originally posted by WGP guy WGP guy wrote:


Originally posted by Panda Man Panda Man wrote:

The Koran is based of the Holy bible...


Based, but it influences Muslims to harm others. The Bible teaches love and kindness.

HAHAHAHHAHAHA.....NO.

Do you honestly think the bible hasn't been used for justification of killing people? How about those lovely crusades where christians rode into the middle east and tickled muslims with feathers to be nice. Oh, wait, They slaughter anyone that got in their way. Saying the Koran is the most harmful book is one of the biggest bigot statements I have ever heard. Not all muslims are extremests, just very few. Just as not all christians are extremests. The crazy ones are the ones that get attention.


it wasnt just the christians riding into the holy land, jews, muslims, and catholics all participated equally in that particular feud


Actually it was Catholics mainly, with some Christians and Jews riding to take the land from Muslims.  (I think, been so long since I learned about that)

Yeaaah. Catholics are Christians....



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Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 12:58pm
Jews just wanted there promise land back, also what about the Spanish Inquasition(sp), how about all those lovly catholics...

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Posted By: RenegadeGopher
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 12:58pm
No way Whale, that's crazytalk.


Posted By: travis75
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 1:08pm

 

I can't believe that The Origin of Species got Honorable Mention.

I think that the panel of judges are way too pro-christian and pro-democracy to provide valid answers.

also,

Originally posted by WGP guy WGP guy wrote:

[The Koran] influences Muslims to harm others.  The Bible teaches love and kindness.
Originally posted by RenegadeGopher RenegadeGopher wrote:

I must say WGP. Whoever taught you about middle eastern cultures is an idiot.

 

 



Posted By: PlentifulBalls
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 1:11pm
I still don't understand why when people hear communism they get all scared. Its just a different type of government. If other countries want to be communist, let them, they arent hurting anyone.

Well, except for some of the cruelty and injustice that goes on towards their own people. **cough*China**cough**


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Posted By: WGP guy
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 1:13pm
Originally posted by Tae Kwon Do Tae Kwon Do wrote:

Originally posted by WGP guy WGP guy wrote:

Originally posted by usafpilot07 usafpilot07 wrote:

Originally posted by mbro mbro wrote:

Originally posted by WGP guy WGP guy wrote:


Originally posted by Panda Man Panda Man wrote:

The Koran is based of the Holy bible...


Based, but it influences Muslims to harm others. The Bible teaches love and kindness.

HAHAHAHHAHAHA.....NO.

Do you honestly think the bible hasn't been used for justification of killing people? How about those lovely crusades where christians rode into the middle east and tickled muslims with feathers to be nice. Oh, wait, They slaughter anyone that got in their way. Saying the Koran is the most harmful book is one of the biggest bigot statements I have ever heard. Not all muslims are extremests, just very few. Just as not all christians are extremests. The crazy ones are the ones that get attention.


it wasnt just the christians riding into the holy land, jews, muslims, and catholics all participated equally in that particular feud


Actually it was Catholics mainly, with some Christians and Jews riding to take the land from Muslims.  (I think, been so long since I learned about that)

Yeaaah. Catholics are Christians....



Uh, no.  Catholics worship Mary mainly, Christians worship Jesus.

There are more differences, but that shows that it is different.  When I said chrisitans I was refering to protestants.


Posted By: mbro
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 1:17pm
Originally posted by WGP guy WGP guy wrote:


Originally posted by Tae Kwon Do Tae Kwon Do wrote:

Originally posted by WGP guy WGP guy wrote:

Originally posted by usafpilot07 usafpilot07 wrote:

Originally posted by mbro mbro wrote:

Originally posted by WGP guy WGP guy wrote:

Originally posted by Panda Man Panda Man wrote:

The Koran is based of the Holy bible...
Based, but it influences Muslims to harm others. The Bible teaches love and kindness.
HAHAHAHHAHAHA.....NO. Do
you honestly think the bible hasn't been used for justification of
killing people? How about those lovely crusades where christians rode
into the middle east and tickled muslims with feathers to be nice. Oh,
wait, They slaughter anyone that got in their way. Saying the Koran is
the most harmful book is one of the biggest bigot statements I have
ever heard. Not all muslims are extremests, just very few. Just as not
all christians are extremests. The crazy ones are the ones that get
attention.
it wasnt just the christians riding into the
holy land, jews, muslims, and catholics all participated equally in
that particular feud
Actually it was Catholics
mainly, with some Christians and Jews riding to take the land from
Muslims. (I think, been so long since I learned about that)


Yeaaah. Catholics are Christians....



Uh, no. Catholics worship Mary mainly, Christians worship Jesus.

There are more differences, but that shows that it is different. When I said chrisitans I was refering to protestants.


No, you are wrong here. Catholics worship Jesus, they just see Mary as the mother of god. You really need to learn about religion. Followers of Christ = CHRISTians. Catholics follow Christ so, Cahtolics = Christians.

All this coming from MBro a Catholic.

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Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 1:17pm
Originally posted by WGP guy WGP guy wrote:

Originally posted by Tae Kwon Do Tae Kwon Do wrote:

Originally posted by WGP guy WGP guy wrote:

Originally posted by usafpilot07 usafpilot07 wrote:

Originally posted by mbro mbro wrote:

Originally posted by WGP guy WGP guy wrote:


Originally posted by Panda Man Panda Man wrote:

The Koran is based of the Holy bible...


Based, but it influences Muslims to harm others. The Bible teaches love and kindness.

HAHAHAHHAHAHA.....NO.

Do you honestly think the bible hasn't been used for justification of killing people? How about those lovely crusades where christians rode into the middle east and tickled muslims with feathers to be nice. Oh, wait, They slaughter anyone that got in their way. Saying the Koran is the most harmful book is one of the biggest bigot statements I have ever heard. Not all muslims are extremests, just very few. Just as not all christians are extremests. The crazy ones are the ones that get attention.


it wasnt just the christians riding into the holy land, jews, muslims, and catholics all participated equally in that particular feud


Actually it was Catholics mainly, with some Christians and Jews riding to take the land from Muslims.  (I think, been so long since I learned about that)

Yeaaah. Catholics are Christians....



Uh, no.  Catholics worship Mary mainly, Christians worship Jesus.

There are more differences, but that shows that it is different.  When I said chrisitans I was refering to protestants.

Catholics dont "mainly worship" Mother Mary. God is the number 1, they just also belive Mother Mary is a figure of great respect.

And once again, Catholics ARE Christians. So are protestants. They are both Christians. They both belive that God is the Father, and his son Jesus came to earth to die for our sins.  I dont know why you dont seem to belive this, its not hard.

Remember, The Catholic church was around long before good ol' Martin  started nailing stuff to doors.



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Posted By: mbro
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 1:20pm
Originally posted by RenegadeGopher RenegadeGopher wrote:

I must say WGP. Whoever taught you about middle eastern cultures is an idiot.

Whoever taught him abouy any culture is obviously an idiot

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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 1:23pm
Originally posted by Tae Kwon Do Tae Kwon Do wrote:

Originally posted by WGP guy WGP guy wrote:

Originally posted by usafpilot07 usafpilot07 wrote:

Originally posted by mbro mbro wrote:

Originally posted by WGP guy WGP guy wrote:


Originally posted by Panda Man Panda Man wrote:

The Koran is based of the Holy bible...


Based, but it influences Muslims to harm others. The Bible teaches love and kindness.

HAHAHAHHAHAHA.....NO.

Do you honestly think the bible hasn't been used for justification of killing people? How about those lovely crusades where christians rode into the middle east and tickled muslims with feathers to be nice. Oh, wait, They slaughter anyone that got in their way. Saying the Koran is the most harmful book is one of the biggest bigot statements I have ever heard. Not all muslims are extremests, just very few. Just as not all christians are extremests. The crazy ones are the ones that get attention.


it wasnt just the christians riding into the holy land, jews, muslims, and catholics all participated equally in that particular feud


Actually it was Catholics mainly, with some Christians and Jews riding to take the land from Muslims.  (I think, been so long since I learned about that)

Yeaaah. Catholics are Christians....



yea, note the comma, Catholics were THE branch of christianity back then


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Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 1:24pm
^^ My post wasnt to you, I know what you were trying to say, Mine was to WGP, who seems to just make stuff up.

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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 1:43pm
o, ok, just clarifying, i can see where mine would be confusing as well

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Posted By: PlentifulBalls
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 1:50pm
Way to be totally ignorant about every religion in the world WGP.

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Posted By: WGP guy
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 2:01pm
Originally posted by PlentifulBalls PlentifulBalls wrote:

Way to be totally ignorant about every religion in the world WGP.




When I said Christian I meant Protestant.  Protestant and Roman Catholic are different.


Posted By: Ejp414
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 2:03pm
God, WGP Guy, I hate to say this, but you're an idiot.

"Catholics worship Mary"?
"The Koran teaches Muslims to harm others"?

Try learning about religions before you attempt to bash them.


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Posted By: Ejp414
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 2:06pm
Originally posted by WGP guy WGP guy wrote:

Originally posted by PlentifulBalls PlentifulBalls wrote:

Way to be totally ignorant about every religion in the world WGP.




When I said Christian I meant Protestant.  Protestant and Roman Catholic are different.


Yeah, they are different. But Catholic and Christian are not necessarily different and neither are Protestant and Christian. Christian is the bigger group, and just so you realize, Catholicism was the first branch major branch of Christianity. Protestants did not even exist until the Middle Ages with Martin Luther.


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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 3:24pm
This list my truly be the stupidist and one-sided list I have ever seen. I can't believe that The Feminie Mystique, Origin of Species, and John Stuart Mill's book were on the list. That's what happens when you let Hillsdale college faculty create something. This is so ridiculous that it scares me to think what these people actually think about theories of harm, therapy, sex, religion, and punishment. Too scary.


Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 3:49pm
Originally posted by Panda Man Panda Man wrote:

Jews just wanted there promise land back, also what about the Spanish Inquasition(sp), how about all those lovly catholics...


K look. Reguardless of your leanings, do not spout nonsence if you do not know the history, im going to give everyone a little history lesson.

There were two inquisitions, one by the Vatican, and one By the Spanish government. The Inquisition officialy done by the catholic church was very gentle, and rarely developed into torture tactics. This inquisition went on for 200-300 years, the Catholic church was spread through out the land, at this time i believe the Pope lived in france. But this could be after he moved back to Rome. Since there is so much land, and the inquisition was carried out mainly by fransiscan and dominican friars, the spanish government volunteered to offer its clergy to aid in the inquisition of people in its borders. The catholic church agreed under one condition. That the spanish government adhere to official church doctrine. They agreed, and ignored the decree, After years and years and years of practising torture, they became sydistic and gifted in inflicting pain. They developed ways to infict horrible amounts of pain without spilling a drop of blood. Interestingly enough, this is the only Church Law they obeyed, most likely to avoid spreding disease. The spanish inquisition was mostly a way to put presure on people that were deemed enemies of the state, not necessarily religious disidents or heretics, in truth most of the heritic move ment was concentrated in France, not Spain, and it was in the North East of france.

Second of all, this has nothing to do with panda man. But the Qui'ran was not based off of the bible any more than it was based off of the Torah. All three books share different peices of the holy cannon but this does not mean one was based off of any other. This is why the muslime world call Jews and Christians "People of the Book" They are refering to the Torah and the Bible.

To say the Koran was based off of the bible is silly. It shares bits and peices of the old testament. The Qui'ran came into existance when the last prophet mohamad was confronted by two angels and told simply to write. It took him a couple visits by these angels, but he soon did write, and he ended up writing how god should be worshiped. Muslims believe we strayed, and god sent angels to set us back on the path of rightousness. And they also believe Jesus was a prophet, just like we do, but they do not believe is the Son of God(most christians do due to a botched biblican translation, but this is another matter all together) I am not muslim, but i have to give them the nod, word for word, the Qui'ran is most likely the more acurate of the book. The bible has been translated many many many times. Mistakes and missed translations abound in the book. Certain things we hold to be holy sacraments are wrong and not correct. The Qui'ran, being and extension of God, or Allah himself, it would be heresy to change it, so, it is frowned upon to translate it. The muslims say that something would be lost if the Qui'ran were to be translated. The christian world translated the Bible so that the masses would be able to read it and apreciate it.

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Posted By: travis75
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 4:02pm

Originally posted by Ejp414 Ejp414 wrote:

God, WGP Guy, I hate to say this, but you're an idiot.

"Catholics worship Mary"?
"The Koran teaches Muslims to harm others"?

Try learning about religions before you attempt to bash them.

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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 4:26pm
*Chuckle*

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Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 4:27pm
Originally posted by travis75 travis75 wrote:

Originally posted by Ejp414 Ejp414 wrote:

God, WGP Guy, I hate to say this, but you're an idiot.

"Catholics worship Mary"?
"The Koran teaches Muslims to harm others"?

Try learning about religions before you attempt to bash them.

Pwned:

Definition: Complete and utter domination. A butt kicking so severe, the pwnee cannot recover. Dominating someone beyond "owned".






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Posted By: RenegadeGopher
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 4:47pm
Originally posted by WGP guy WGP guy wrote:

Originally posted by PlentifulBalls PlentifulBalls wrote:

Way to be totally ignorant about every religion in the world WGP.




When I said Christian I meant Protestant.  Protestant and Roman Catholic are different.

that's not what he meant, fool.


Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 4:50pm
The protestant reformation wasnt even thogh of during the time of the crusades.. Nor was martin luther alive then.

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Posted By: RenegadeGopher
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 4:51pm
Moreso I'm mad that WGP thinks the Qu'ran is about harming people.


Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 4:53pm
Its not. The word Islam itself means Peace. Anyone can take any religion and pervert and polute it to push any agenda.

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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 5:01pm
That list is ridiculous.


Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 5:09pm
Thats what we get when we have extreemists make something up.

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Posted By: WGP guy
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 5:09pm
Originally posted by RenegadeGopher RenegadeGopher wrote:

Moreso I'm mad that WGP thinks the Qu'ran is about harming people.


Eh, I mean that it is used as justification (by Muslims) to kill.  I didn't say people don't use the Bible like that.


Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 5:10pm
Not really, its used by some regimes to push their own agenda of hate. Its likend to racists saying slavery is justified in the bible.

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Posted By: PlentifulBalls
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 5:21pm
Originally posted by WGP guy WGP guy wrote:

Originally posted by RenegadeGopher RenegadeGopher wrote:

Moreso I'm mad that WGP thinks the Qu'ran is about harming people.


Eh, I mean that it is used as justification (by Muslims) to kill.  I didn't say people don't use the Bible like that.


Etremeists using the Koran as justification != Koran telling Muslims to kill us


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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 5:22pm
No no no no. Because they use the Qui'ran as justification, it does not mean it tells them to kill anyone.

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Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 5:30pm
Is that website a joke like that fake church site that people always flip out over?

I have a hard time believing that people are really that stupid.


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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 5:31pm
Nope, some people really feel threatned by these books.

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Posted By: Hitman
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 5:36pm
Those people must be so insecure about their own beliefs. So insecure that they would go out and label pieces of literature has "harmful", only because it gives an opposing view.


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Posted By: goodsmitty
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 9:52pm

Originally posted by Dune Dune wrote:

That list is ridiculous.

Take a look at this. This is what you get when an ultraconservative homophobe religious zealot gets his hand in politics. I read a couple of his books and really enjoyed them, but I am now thoroughly convinced that he suffers from Alzheimer's.

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Posted By: Pariel
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 10:03pm
Originally posted by Enos Shenk Enos Shenk wrote:

Is that website a joke like that fake church site that people always flip out over?

I have a hard time believing that people are really that stupid.


Yeah, really.

Sadly, it's real. Sadly, people are that stupid.

America is pretty messed up, in that a very large portion of our populace understands only their religion, if any religion at all. Very few religions teach genocide-somehow, most Americans are convinced that the Koran says exactly that.

Sad world we live in...then again, the Crusaders were pretty similar to our present day jihadists, but there were quite a few more of them, if I remember correctly.

On a similar note, anyone know about the "Children's Crusade"? It was a crusade where thousands of children went to reclaim the Holy Land. Something like 5% survived. Nasty.


Posted By: Sentinelz
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 10:50pm

Originally posted by You Wont See Me You Wont See Me wrote:

Originally posted by BLand BLand wrote:


Originally posted by pb125 pb125 wrote:




Wow, you have no idea how hard I laughed when I realized what you posted.
I also laughed when I saw that.

I laughed so hard I lost a pound... speaking of which I need to go pack for FAT CAMP....

j/p



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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 10:55pm
Originally posted by Pariel Pariel wrote:

On a similar note, anyone know about the "Children's Crusade"? It was a crusade where thousands of children went to reclaim the Holy Land. Something like 5% survived. Nasty.


HAHAHA. I forgot about those. Good times.


Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 11:04pm

Originally posted by Hades Hades wrote:

Originally posted by Pariel Pariel wrote:

On a similar note, anyone know about the "Children's Crusade"? It was a crusade where thousands of children went to reclaim the Holy Land. Something like 5% survived. Nasty.


HAHAHA. I forgot about those. Good times.

I'm with you there Hades..for some reason, the death of thousands of neoreligious children makes me warm and fuzzy inside.



Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 11:06pm
It was during the crusades. And yeah, a bunch of kids got togther and trotted their happy butts to the holy land, not many came back.

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Posted By: pb125
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 11:09pm

Originally posted by cdacda13 cdacda13 wrote:

pb125, just cause you dont read, doesn't mean you have to ruin it for everyone.
The Communist Manifesto was pretty good. My histroy teacher let us read some chapters, and i was impressed how well Marx explained everything.
Mein Kampf,Although it was fulled with hate, was decent. It showed hitlers(all be it misplaced) hate. Remember, Hitler fixed germany's econmonic problems when he came to power.

 

I did take time to read it, so shut up.

I didn't really have many comments about it though.



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Posted By: boshiev
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 11:32pm
The Koran has nothing to do with the bible. Even though some retard
decided to use a few quotes and names from the bible, does not mean
that the Koran is based on it. The bible is still the best-selling book in the
world. It is also the oldest, and everthing that is contained in the bible
today is the same that it was thousands of years ago.


Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 11:33pm

Originally posted by boshiev boshiev wrote:

The Koran has nothing to do with the bible. Even though some retard
decided to use a few quotes and names from the bible, does not mean
that the Koran is based on it. The bible is still the best-selling book in the
world. It is also the oldest, and everthing that is contained in the bible
today is the same that it was thousands of years ago.

You're partially true. The bible has been rewritten many times, including the now popular King James version which is not thousands of years old, maybe just one thousand. It has been reworked because of opinions.



Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 11:38pm
I never looked at the list that was posted but did the bible make it on the 10 most harmful list? I would have put it at number one.

/me goes and looks.


Posted By: soonerdude05
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 11:39pm
Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:





To say the Koran was based off of the bible is silly. It shares bits and peices of the old testament. The Qui'ran came into existance when the last prophet mohamad was confronted by two angels and told simply to write. It took him a couple visits by these angels, but he soon did write, and he ended up writing how god should be worshiped. Muslims believe we strayed, and god sent angels to set us back on the path of rightousness. And they also believe Jesus was a prophet, just like we do, but they do not believe is the Son of God(most christians do due to a botched biblican translation, but this is another matter all together) I am not muslim, but i have to give them the nod, word for word, the Qui'ran is most likely the more acurate of the book. The bible has been translated many many many times. Mistakes and missed translations abound in the book. Certain things we hold to be holy sacraments are wrong and not correct. The Qui'ran, being and extension of God, or Allah himself, it would be heresy to change it, so, it is frowned upon to translate it. The muslims say that something would be lost if the Qui'ran were to be translated. The christian world translated the Bible so that the masses would be able to read it and apreciate it.

/History lesson.


Ok alot of stuff needs to be said here. The Koran was based partly off the Bible. It was written a long time after by Muhammed the prophet that invented Islam. He didn't ike Christianity so he thought that he would make his own religion. He borrowed things from the Bible that he liked and then he made himself all holy so people would do what he said.




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Posted By: pb125
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 11:40pm

Originally posted by Hades Hades wrote:

I never looked at the list that was posted but did the bible make it on the 10 most harmful list? I would have put it at number one.

/me goes and looks.

 

O stop showing off your atheism.



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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 11:40pm
The Kinsey Report!?! What the heck??

That reminds me, I need to watch that movie. This list is a shame and very biased therefore invalid.


Posted By: boshiev
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 11:43pm
The Koran has "quotes from the bible. However, they are used out of
context. The name Jesus is even used a few times. So therefore the retard
that wrote the Koran had to of had some education on Christianity. And
another thing, how do we know that these "visions" Muhammad had were
true and he wasnt just fantasizing about himself and a hot broad
standing on the beach when he was making this crap up?


Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 11:45pm
I am not an Athesist. I never have been.

Hitler killed how many? In the name of the Christian religion how many were killed? It think the bible is way more harmful then Mein Kampf.

The numbers are in Hitler's favor. Also Hitler's power died when he died for the most part. On the other hand, 2000 years after Christ's death many still suffer the wrath of misinterprations of the bibe.


Posted By: Mehs
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 11:45pm
I guess they don't like Mr. Marx.

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Posted By: Ejp414
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 11:46pm
Originally posted by Hades Hades wrote:

The Kinsey Report!?! What the heck??

That reminds me, I need to watch that movie. This list is a shame and very biased therefore invalid.


God, I am going crazy. I was about to offer my company when you went to see it, as I haven't been yet either.

Then I remembered I only know you over an Internet forum.

 . . . .

EDIT: Hey, this must be the fifth time that I've hit 6000 posts!


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Posted By: boshiev
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 11:47pm
Ok, Hitler was crazy, just like the retard who wrote the Koran. Thank how
many terrorist kill millions of people believing that this is a sure fire way
to get them to whatever they call heaven.


Posted By: Ejp414
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 11:50pm
Originally posted by boshiev boshiev wrote:

Ok, Hitler was crazy, just like the retard who wrote the Koran. Thank how
many terrorist kill millions of people believing that this is a sure fire way
to get them to whatever they call heaven.


Name some terrorists that are responsible for killing over even one million people.

I can bet you two things: first, that your list will not be very big and, second, that those on your list would probably have killed the people anyway—as in the killings were probably more for power than for salvation.


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Posted By: boshiev
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 11:53pm
#1 have u ever heard of exageration. #2 Thousands of people have been
killed #3 why would they do that for power, if they're going to die. #4
They're crazy either way #5 TWIN TOWERS #6 why not? #7 PROVE ME
WRONG


Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 11:55pm
I would definately go with you if it were some how possible. I am happy to see that there is interest in the younger generation. I think I am going to get ahold of the actuall report this summer and read it in my spare time.


Posted By: Ejp414
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 11:58pm
Originally posted by Hades Hades wrote:

I would definately go with you if it were some how possible. I am happy to see that there is interest in the younger generation. I think I am going to get ahold of the actuall report this summer and read it in my spare time.


I'm just in it to see nudity.

Just kidding, of course.


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Posted By: boshiev
Date Posted: 02 June 2005 at 12:00am
Originally posted by Ejp414 Ejp414 wrote:

Originally posted by Hades Hades wrote:

I would definately go with you if it were
some how
possible. I am happy to see that there is interest in the younger
generation. I think I am going to get ahold of the actuall report this
summer and read it in my spare time.


I'm just in it to see nudity.

Just kidding, of course.



When are u gonna be brave enough to respond to mine?


Posted By: HITMAN187
Date Posted: 02 June 2005 at 12:01am

Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

No, Mein Kampf was horrible, it was full of errors, spelling, grammatical, continuity, it was drivel. Hitler was a horrible writer.

A genius orator, but a pitiful writer.

No his scretary was a pitiful writer



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Posted By: Mehs
Date Posted: 02 June 2005 at 12:01am
Originally posted by boshiev boshiev wrote:

#1 have u ever heard of exageration. #2 Thousands of people have been
killed #3 why would they do that for power, if they're going to die. #4
They're crazy either way #5 TWIN TOWERS #6 why not? #7 PROVE ME
WRONG


You're pretty ignorant...


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Posted By: mbro
Date Posted: 02 June 2005 at 12:02am
Originally posted by boshiev boshiev wrote:

The Koran has "quotes from the bible. However, they are used out of
context. The name Jesus is even used a few times. So therefore the retard
that wrote the Koran had to of had some education on Christianity. And
another thing, how do we know that these "visions" Muhammad had were
true and he wasnt just fantasizing about himself and a hot broad
standing on the beach when he was making this crap up?

How can you say that about the Koran and not the bible? You're being very one sided here. Both books are written by people who claim to have seen visions or heard voices. The major religions (Jewdism, Islam, Christianity) are all products of the worlds first schitzophrenic, Abraham.
Originally posted by boshiev boshiev wrote:

Ok, Hitler was crazy, just like the retard who wrote the Koran. Thank how
many terrorist kill millions of people believing that this is a sure fire way
to get them to whatever they call heaven.


Again, calling Muhamad crazy and not looking to see that the book you believe in is written by the same type of people.

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Posted By: pb125
Date Posted: 02 June 2005 at 12:04am

Originally posted by mbro mbro wrote:

Originally posted by boshiev boshiev wrote:

The Koran has "quotes from the bible. However, they are used out of
context. The name Jesus is even used a few times. So therefore the retard
that wrote the Koran had to of had some education on Christianity. And
another thing, how do we know that these "visions" Muhammad had were
true and he wasnt just fantasizing about himself and a hot broad
standing on the beach when he was making this crap up?

How can you say that about the Koran and not the bible? You're being very one sided here. Both books are written by people who claim to have seen visions or heard voices. The major religions (Jewdism, Islam, Christianity) are all products of the worlds first schitzophrenic, Abraham.
Originally posted by boshiev boshiev wrote:

Ok, Hitler was crazy, just like the retard who wrote the Koran. Thank how
many terrorist kill millions of people believing that this is a sure fire way
to get them to whatever they call heaven.


Again, calling Muhamad crazy and not looking to see that the book you believe in is written by the same type of people.

 

Yeah, boshiev : Matthew,  Mark, Luke and John are retarded.



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Posted By: boshiev
Date Posted: 02 June 2005 at 12:04am
You're pretty ignorant...
[/QUOTE]

At least Christians dont believe that they will go to heaven
for commiting
acts of terrorism. I'm not ignorant. I just state my opinion which i believe
is the truth.


Posted By: pb125
Date Posted: 02 June 2005 at 12:06am

Originally posted by boshiev boshiev wrote:

You're pretty ignorant...


At least Christians dont believe that they will go to head for commiting
acts of terrorism. I'm not ignorant. I just state my opinion which i believe
is the truth.[/QUOTE]

 

Go to head?

Either way, It's people like you that give religion a bad name.



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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 02 June 2005 at 12:07am
Erica, I am just offering to take you to get in your pants.


Posted By: boshiev
Date Posted: 02 June 2005 at 12:08am
Originally posted by pb125 pb125 wrote:

Originally posted by mbro mbro wrote:

Originally posted by boshiev boshiev wrote:

The Koran has
"quotes from the bible. However, they are used out of context. The name
Jesus is even used a few times. So therefore the retard that wrote the
Koran had to of had some education on Christianity. And another thing,
how do we know that these "visions" Muhammad had were true and he
wasnt just fantasizing about himself and a hot broad standing on the
beach when he was making this crap up?
How can you say that
about the Koran and not the bible? You're being very one sided here. Both
books are written by people who claim to have seen visions or heard
voices. The major religions (Jewdism, Islam, Christianity) are all products
of the worlds first schitzophrenic, Abraham. [QUOTE=boshiev] Ok, Hitler
was crazy, just like the retard who wrote the Koran. Thank how many
terrorist kill millions of people believing that this is a sure fire way to get
them to whatever they call heaven.
Again, calling Muhamad
crazy and not looking to see that the book you believe in is written by the
same type of people.


 


Yeah, boshiev : Matthew,  Mark, Luke and John are retarded.

[/
QUOTE]

I was not stating that in a physical matter. I was stating that in my
opinion. In most religions there will be some form of a major descendant
from a God. In Christianity it is Jesus Christ( Christianity is older than
most other religions). So therefor where do u think that other religions
get the idea to have a "Prophet". So they are the retards to have to copy
something, whether than at least making something up that sounds
semi-original.


Posted By: boshiev
Date Posted: 02 June 2005 at 12:10am
Originally posted by pb125 pb125 wrote:

Originally posted by boshiev boshiev wrote:

You're pretty ignorant...

At least Christians dont believe that they will go to head for commiting
acts of terrorism. I'm not ignorant. I just state my opinion which i believe
is the truth.


 


Go to head?


Either way, It's people like you that give religion a bad name.

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QUOTE]

I meant heaven



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