accuracy
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Topic: accuracy
Posted By: gary69
Subject: accuracy
Date Posted: 17 June 2005 at 6:07pm
| ok, i know this is probabaly on here somewhere but i can seem to find it. how do i get my 98 custom to choot more accurate. i alays get out because people charge me kenowing i cant hit the broadside of a barn with my gun. i am good with other guns and i know it is not me. becasue i can see the ball curve way off course after leavin the barrel. i already have a longer barrel on it but it dosent change the accuracy. what should i do? |
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 17 June 2005 at 6:20pm
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Oh god. First of all, what barrel do you have? What paint? Does the paint match the barrel? Is the paint dimpled? How long is the barrel? What velocity are you at? Gun setup, air source, etc. We need to know these things. |
Posted By: gary69
Date Posted: 17 June 2005 at 6:31pm
| i have the barrel you can get at any **edited** or dunhams. i believe it is 18'' long. i use DBX practice grade paint how do i know if it matches my barrel? it is not dimpled. i dont know my exact velocity but i kee the screw head for the velocity flush with the hole for it. 20oz tank. niothin els customized and i use c02...answer your questions? |
Posted By: pbdude985
Date Posted: 17 June 2005 at 6:52pm
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Well it is probally becuase of the barrel , my suggestion would be to get a Lapco bigshot or some kind of J&J. If you put a ball in the barrel and it roles right through it is to small , If you put a ball and the barrel and it gets stuck and you have to push it out with something it is to big. If you can blow the ball out of the barrel it is fine. hope this helped. ------------- 
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Posted By: craig_74
Date Posted: 17 June 2005 at 7:05pm
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paint to barrel match has nothing to do with accuracy |
Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 17 June 2005 at 7:08pm
No. Just, no. |
craig_74 wrote:
Posted By: youm0nt
Date Posted: 17 June 2005 at 7:10pm
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Posted By: ninety8freak
Date Posted: 17 June 2005 at 7:20pm
omg, wow |
Posted By: craig_74
Date Posted: 17 June 2005 at 7:29pm
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i read in an article somewhere that paint to barrel match doesn't matter on the accuracy. the guy who wrote it said he used the same gun, same velocity, same barrel, new balls, pretty much like a scientific expirement. he said whether the ball rolls through or it gets slightly stuck, both balls will create a seal in the barrel having the same accuracy. the only difference between sizes is that a ball that gets slightly stuck in the barrel will have slightly less velocity and distance than a ball that rolls through because there is more friction between the barrel and the ball. my friends and i agree with it because we dont notice any difference either. |
Posted By: craig_74
Date Posted: 17 June 2005 at 7:35pm
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found that site with the article. check it out for yourself http://paintball-review.com/paintball-article-69.html - http://paintball-review.com/paintball-article-69.html "Anybody who tell you otherwise" (paint has to be matched) "doesn't know what they're talking about. |
Posted By: tigman250
Date Posted: 17 June 2005 at 7:48pm
Gary go to the search button.... see it......now click it......search for accuracy.......search in topic subject.........in the upgrades and customizing(these pull down menus are there for a reason)........click start search there are 26 posts in there change the keyword to accurizing........98 accuracy......98c accuracy 98 custom accuracy a-5 accuracy the possibilities are endless ------------- http://img76.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stickemup6of.jpg"> 
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are you kidding me?
+Posted By: Predatorr
Date Posted: 17 June 2005 at 9:06pm
Im kinda with hybrid. ...his name is hybrid sniper...and i have problems with my evil paint cause it gets stuck in my barrel. I have a 16" werks and since we're on the subject what paint do y'all use? |
Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 17 June 2005 at 9:20pm
------------- A-5 E-Grip JCS Dual Trigger DOP X-CORE 8 stage x-chamber Lapco Bigshot 14" Beadblasted Optional setup: R/T Dead on Blade trigger |
Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 17 June 2005 at 9:23pm
My name be of no meaning, I just know what I'm talking about and have a good amount of experience with this sport. |
Posted By: gary69
Date Posted: 17 June 2005 at 10:09pm
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well i checked my paint in my barrel and the ball wont roll through but i can blow it out...so i guess that is good. i also turned down my velocity and it helps...alot. i dont have anything to measure how fast it is going. how far in or out should my velocity screw be if im playin woods ball at distances up to about 25 yards? |
Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 17 June 2005 at 10:12pm
No cut and dry answer, unfortunately. Every gun is different. The only way to tell is with a chronograph. |
Posted By: tigman250
Date Posted: 17 June 2005 at 10:20pm
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your local paintball shop should chrono your gun for minimal cost (most will do it for free) paint is very important if you are using cheap paint sometimes it looks and acts like it is a good match to your barrel but this may be because it's out of round or bulged out, put a ball in your barrel and look through it toward a light if you see alot of light arround the ball or uneven light it's bad paint ------------- http://img76.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stickemup6of.jpg">
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Posted By: craig_74
Date Posted: 17 June 2005 at 10:43pm
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My name be of no meaning, I just know what I'm talking about and have a good amount of experience with this sport. ok chief, whatever flips your trigger |
Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 17 June 2005 at 10:49pm
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Amazing how you completly ignore my arguement. ------------- A-5 E-Grip JCS Dual Trigger DOP X-CORE 8 stage x-chamber Lapco Bigshot 14" Beadblasted Optional setup: R/T Dead on Blade trigger |
Posted By: tigman250
Date Posted: 17 June 2005 at 10:51pm
what's the matter you can't take advise from someone who's been doing it longer? ------------- http://img76.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stickemup6of.jpg">
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 17 June 2005 at 10:51pm
Yawn. You can't even figure out how to quote, much less insult me. |
Posted By: ekim98
Date Posted: 17 June 2005 at 11:20pm
i might be wrong but paint to barrel match, velocity, and paint quality are the ONLY things that affect accuracy. a longer barrel only uses more air/gas to get the ball out of the barrel. according to all reports i've ever read say that 7" to 10" barrel is all you need to reach maximum velocity and accuracy  if your ball is curving i would guess your velocity is to high or bad paint. also check your barrel, make sure there are no burrs around the porting holes, no dings at either end? ------------- |
Posted By: RustyNail
Date Posted: 17 June 2005 at 11:34pm
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lol im liek teh snpier nad i dont have any paitn ot barrelll macth adn i cna spie 400 fet waay
------------- This sig doesnt fly. A-5 E-Grip Lapco Bigshot 12" (Bead Blasted) Maddmann Spring Kit |
Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 17 June 2005 at 11:38pm
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ZOMG! ------------- A-5 E-Grip JCS Dual Trigger DOP X-CORE 8 stage x-chamber Lapco Bigshot 14" Beadblasted Optional setup: R/T Dead on Blade trigger |
Posted By: ekim98
Date Posted: 17 June 2005 at 11:39pm
ok i give up, what did you just say  ------------- |
Posted By: RustyNail
Date Posted: 17 June 2005 at 11:40pm
oh tehre r snpierz ni pantiblall ------------- This sig doesnt fly. A-5 E-Grip Lapco Bigshot 12" (Bead Blasted) Maddmann Spring Kit |
Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 17 June 2005 at 11:42pm
------------- A-5 E-Grip JCS Dual Trigger DOP X-CORE 8 stage x-chamber Lapco Bigshot 14" Beadblasted Optional setup: R/T Dead on Blade trigger |
Posted By: ekim98
Date Posted: 18 June 2005 at 12:06am
thanks, you wont see me, that's what i thought he was saying. 400 feet  i thought this was the tippmann.com forum not pbn. where did these ppl come from. i'm out of this post my head hurts------------- |
Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 18 June 2005 at 12:08am
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ya buts u need teh supr chromium barrel 2 reech that diss tance! |
Posted By: RustyNail
Date Posted: 18 June 2005 at 12:20am
btu ti hsa ot eb 24 ichnes lnogf ------------- This sig doesnt fly. A-5 E-Grip Lapco Bigshot 12" (Bead Blasted) Maddmann Spring Kit |
Posted By: gary69
Date Posted: 18 June 2005 at 10:09am
| ENGLISH!!!!!!!! |
Posted By: ncpaintballer
Date Posted: 18 June 2005 at 10:50am
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lol he said "but it has to be 24 inches long". ------------- GaRrEtT |
Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 18 June 2005 at 11:01am
------------- A-5 E-Grip JCS Dual Trigger DOP X-CORE 8 stage x-chamber Lapco Bigshot 14" Beadblasted Optional setup: R/T Dead on Blade trigger |
Posted By: Millslane
Date Posted: 18 June 2005 at 11:22am
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keys to accuracy You Won't See Me will aggree i think Barrel; in type, meaning type, size and manufacture ect.. there are ones that are better than others, for some sort of range, a barrel somr 10"-14" is about the proper length. Paint; you need to be shootng the best paint for you barrel. this means quality and size. i didn't say you have to spend 100 bucks for a case. but if you want the best accuracy you need the best paint for your barrel consistancy; the key to being most accurate is to be consistant. meaning that with every shot fired, you want the same FPS or close to it. running a stock A-5 off Co2 you can have nightmares with this. mine used to jump at the chrono from 280 to 305 to 245 from shot to shot. add a palmer stab or an expansion chamber (go with the palmer) maybe a remote to let the Co2 expand, the stabalize it in the palmer before entering the gun. add an RVA for a better velosity adjustment, and either mod the FVA, so that its flush with the inside of the powertube making no turbulance or get the gold powertube from JCS with no FVA and you can pretty much get a consistant shooting marker + - 3 fps like me. you can also run HPA and get the same results. now you don't have to do all these things. but if you do everything i said, you will get the marker as consistant as its gonna get. its all up to you and how consistant you want to be. did i cover everything YWSM? it was hard to think after reading that paint size doesn't matter. i frustrating that people who don't know wnad want to learn get stupid incorrect answers given to them. but somebody that wa also stuppid most likely gave the same dumb answer to them a long time ago. the truth must be made clear! ------------- www.pbteamwow.com |
Posted By: Predatorr
Date Posted: 18 June 2005 at 12:35pm
| ^^^ i agree with millslane about getting the palmers stabalizer but i also agree with YWSM on the spaces and leaks between the ball. If your ball can roll out then air is getting past it. Maybe that's the problem with spyders being inaccurate is that the ball doesnt get stuck in the barrel. I dunno about you guys but my evil paint gets stuck in my werks where the barrel thins out in the middle. Im gonna guess that if it stops in the middle of the barrel then its good for this reason: if it stops dead center then the air is going to push it straight and true. But if your ball can roll out, its gonna be on the bottom of the barrel either to the left or right depending on which way the gun is leaning towards. Now if the ball is on the bottom left the air is gonna go over the top giving it downward push as well as over the right side spinning the ball to the left. Now youre gonna have a ball that spins down and left on that shot. Its all so simple. So the ball should get stuck in the barrel to a certain degree. Im not talking about like sticking something like a golf ball in the barrel though..so YWSM is right and you do need the palmers stabalizer so that the air will be at consistent pressure and stuff. |
Posted By: Millslane
Date Posted: 18 June 2005 at 1:39pm
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Predatorr, is right on this. is there is room for the ball to move in
the barrel and roll right out, meaning that air gets around the ball,
the air will push the ball onto one side of the barrel leaving more
space on the opposite side. this all happens of course very quickly.
but what happening is the ball is "bouncing or rolling from side to
side up and down in the barrl all the way until its out. then when it
leaves the barrel, what do you think happens if the ball is on its way
down from the top ot is moving back over from the right? it will
continue the on its path moving down, up left or right. is this making
any sense to you now? this can also create spin on the ball, but not
the good spin from the flatline, rather a uncontrollable, unpredicatble
spin. all in all, paint that is too small will bounce at random in the barrel and will shoot at random. ------------- www.pbteamwow.com |
Posted By: Predatorr
Date Posted: 18 June 2005 at 4:53pm
| which must be why spyders suck! |
Posted By: RustyNail
Date Posted: 18 June 2005 at 5:48pm
They're also about as durable as wet newspaper. ------------- This sig doesnt fly. A-5 E-Grip Lapco Bigshot 12" (Bead Blasted) Maddmann Spring Kit |
Posted By: Predatorr
Date Posted: 18 June 2005 at 6:49pm
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hahahha |
Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 18 June 2005 at 8:50pm
It should also be noted that the paint you choose must be round with no dimples. ------------- A-5 E-Grip JCS Dual Trigger DOP X-CORE 8 stage x-chamber Lapco Bigshot 14" Beadblasted Optional setup: R/T Dead on Blade trigger |
Posted By: benttwig33
Date Posted: 18 June 2005 at 9:00pm
HAHAHAHAHAHAH n00BS WARM MY HEART  ------------- Sig is WAY too big. |
Posted By: cdacda13
Date Posted: 18 June 2005 at 9:00pm
| YWSM= forum Pathedic longballer |
Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 18 June 2005 at 10:21pm
------------- A-5 E-Grip JCS Dual Trigger DOP X-CORE 8 stage x-chamber Lapco Bigshot 14" Beadblasted Optional setup: R/T Dead on Blade trigger |
Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 18 June 2005 at 10:36pm
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That was the best title ever. I know you loved it, too. |
Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 18 June 2005 at 10:42pm
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Oh yes, and a big thank you to whatever mod gave me it. I'm guessing it was Enos, based on the fact that he hates me.
Big thanks to Seb for changing it back to my first title! ------------- A-5 E-Grip JCS Dual Trigger DOP X-CORE 8 stage x-chamber Lapco Bigshot 14" Beadblasted Optional setup: R/T Dead on Blade trigger |
Posted By: gary69
Date Posted: 12 August 2005 at 10:02pm
| i cant figure out how to adjust my velocity..... the further i turn it in the faster it goes, shouldnt it be the other wayu around?....then when i do slow it down it is going to slow and i only get the ball goin like 75 feet... what should i do? |
Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 12 August 2005 at 10:21pm
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Screw it in, velocity goes down. The only way to reliably know your velocity is to chronograph it. |