X-chamber heater
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Topic: X-chamber heater
Posted By: Chappy061
Subject: X-chamber heater
Date Posted: 18 June 2005 at 8:52pm
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i did a quick search on this because i would have thought it would have already been mentioned. who thinks a heating element wrapped around the x-chamber of your marker would be a good idea? obviously it would be insulated, so not to burn the hands of the user, but i think it would do wonders for gas efficiency as well as reg freeze reduction. you could even to the same to your C02 bottle, provided you were careful with the pressure levels, so not to heat it too far and burst the bottle. maybe an element for the X-Chamber and a heating element for the bottle, with the one on the bottle linked to a cut out switch that is controlled by a pressure reg. any thoughts? ------------- "are you kidding? theres no way they can get us from way over h...." |
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Posted By: Predatorr
Date Posted: 18 June 2005 at 10:10pm
| it just wouldnt work cos of wiring and all that. Plus the x chamber does its job just fine as it is. Good idea though |
Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 19 June 2005 at 9:39pm
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You could also overheat the C02, then it would explode. -EDIT- Much more likely to happen figuatively than literally. -EDIT- |
Posted By: RoboCop
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 12:22am
| get a female palmer so your hands don't get cold by the co2 or hot from the heater. The palmer will sometimes start to freeze but it still works with out a problem. Doing what I said might be a little expensive for some but if your heater had to be exchanged or something each time it ran out of heat or whatever, the female palmer would pay for itself. |
Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 1:21pm
Wow..., someone who actually has a good idea in this moron-fest of a forum..., thats a very rare occasion..., well, its a good idea, except for CO2 explosions..., other than that,  ------------- 
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Posted By: sinisterNorth
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 2:35pm
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It would be a good idea but. as everyone else mentioned, there would be explosions. ------------- Pumpker'd; (V.) When a pump player runs up and shoots you at point blank range because you thought 20bps made you good. |
Posted By: Project Irene
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 4:57pm
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Explosions, omg. Someone mentioned a moron-fest of a forum, I agree. Your idea is actually a great idea. If you play in cold environments alot. The "explosion" would just be a gradual rise in pressure. Trust me, it would leak before it exploded. If it is a cold enough environment to warrant an idea of this nature, I doubt very seriuosly if it would raise the pressure to a dangerous level. And it doesn't have to be electric.Chemical hand warmers are made out of a very simple mix of water, iron, cellulose, vermiculite, and activated salt. If you could have the mixture in a maleable tube to wrap around...hmmm, noice.. |
Posted By: EriK6
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 5:15pm
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Never try that. CO2 might explode on you! |
Posted By: Dye Playa
Date Posted: 22 June 2005 at 9:45pm
| why not just buy nitro... |
Posted By: Chappy061
Date Posted: 22 June 2005 at 10:54pm
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cant you just get a regulator and keep an eye on the pressure to make sure there are no explosions? and i dont think nitro is available in Australia, never heard of it being sold here. also i want to stick to C02 because its very easy to get because every paintball field uses it. ------------- "are you kidding? theres no way they can get us from way over h...." |
Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 1:53am
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sorry but not a good idea. See past a certain pressure gasous CO2 becomes liquid. An expansion chamber gives the liquid room to expand into a gas. By forcing the liquid to expand you will put a much higher pressure into the expansion chamber. This will overpower your gun and cause extremely hot shots. Ever leave a gun sitting in the sun for too long. The first couple shots will be well in excess of 300 fps. If you leave a CO2 tank in a hto car the burst disc will usually go off. ------------- http://www.anomationanodizing.com - My Site 
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Posted By: RoboCop
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 3:25am
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The Guy wrote:Posted By: LordJovian
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 9:07am
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This is being called a good idea and the Cyclone 2.0 mod isn't? Wow. And for the heating element, try body heat from your hand. ------------- A-5 E-grip Chipley Custom Carbon Graphite 16" Evil Adapter(Spyder) 32 Deg New '03 XChamber Remote Line Gun Sling Sniper f/x Stock LPK 68/4500 HPA R-5 CP Reg JCS Duel Trigger |
Posted By: meteora
Date Posted: 24 June 2005 at 2:35pm
handwarmers and duct tape 5$ max RoboCop-dude you're lucky the burst disks went and not your tank, your car would have had some serious problems (blowed up!!!!) ------------- http://imageshack.us"> 
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Posted By: benguy
Date Posted: 24 June 2005 at 2:41pm
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I'd just use HPA, no prob there ------------- uhuhuhuhuhuhuhuuhuhuhuh paaaintbaaaall |
Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 24 June 2005 at 5:34pm
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Meteora, thats the pupose of burst discs. So they go and not your tank. The tanks are usually rated about 700psi above the burst disc. ------------- http://www.anomationanodizing.com - My Site
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Posted By: darkmaster
Date Posted: 11 October 2005 at 10:48pm
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I have used hand warmers to warm my hopper,barrel and tank. It worked great,the pressure on the tank was lower then it was in normal temp but it worked lots better then the guys i played with. ------------- Dopa mi la tempesta (After me, The storm) |
Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 12 October 2005 at 12:28am
| Three months later... |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 15 October 2005 at 5:00pm
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well, since the topic is alive again, why not use a fish aquarium heater and wrap it around the x-chamber (NOT the CO2 tank...) then add a layer of insulation to keep from burning your hand. it would be simple to do: just remove the temperature adjustable heating element from your fish aquarium heater and wrap it around your x-chamber. you could wire a home-made battery pack to the heating element to keep it powered, and you could wire a knob of some sorts to the adjustment wire thingy to control the temperature. then add some of that insulation tape that prevents burn damage on headers in cars' exhaust systems. i will state now, this is only a solution for the mechanics of it, im not sure how the pressure and stuff will react to being heated. ask a proshop's aismith or something... edit-if anyone wants me to, i could sketch the idea real fast and post it. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell" 
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Posted By: shadow ace
Date Posted: 18 October 2005 at 7:14pm
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does it help if u heat your co2 tank in the winter?
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 19 October 2005 at 8:16pm
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it might, but it (like has been stated before) make your tank go all splodie if the heat is too high. your risk. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: the_blade
Date Posted: 19 October 2005 at 10:09pm
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Ughh guys think about it. First off the tank wont "explode" they
put burst disks on tanks for reasons secondly your x chambers have
thick shells co2 would not get hot enough to not only transfer the
heat from the x chamber to the tank the heat weould dissapate before
even reaching the asa through the steel braided line secondly
what happens when co2 is expands? it get colder each time you fire you
marker co2
expands thus cooling what ever warm air you get. but what ever you do dont go about wrapping a heat pad on your tank.... bad idea..... the x chamber would be perfectly fine though. As long as the gun is in use. while the heat pad is strapped on. ------------- 95 base neon 3.0 cai, knifedged crankshaft 60 mill throttle body,14 crane cam crane springs/retainers eagle rods port matched/ polished intake p&p head shaved .015 phantom grip diff dohc exuast |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 19 October 2005 at 10:44pm
ok, i understand that, but i couldnt use the word "splode" on any subject about the burst disk! ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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