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Topic: Why do people think that...
Posted By: NiQ-Toto
Subject: Why do people think that...
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 2:35pm
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Hot water freezes faster then cold water?! Zomg i swear, if i hear one more person say it does im going to kill them. Has anyone here heard this myth? Does anyone actually believe it? Go test it out, ask people which freezes faster, i bet a few will say hot water does.
Same thing applies to cold water vs hot water when boiling. People think that cold will boil faster then hot. Why? I dont know. One of the great mysteries of life i guess... ------------- ///AMG What? |
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Posted By: sinisterNorth
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 2:39pm
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I do hate when people say that and then try to argue their point. They usually make fools of themselves. ------------- Pumpker'd; (V.) When a pump player runs up and shoots you at point blank range because you thought 20bps made you good. |
Posted By: triggerhappy1
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 2:40pm
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This is true. I think it because it looses its heat much faster because theres such an extreme differance.
I dont think its true with cold-boiling water though. ------------- 
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Allan Harvey (some scientist guy) wrote:Posted By: :ShockeR_ratm:
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 2:40pm
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Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 2:41pm
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hot water both freezes and boils faster than cold water... |
Posted By: MagicMikebb
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 2:49pm
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 2:54pm
| Another interesting article on this subject: http://www.weatherwise.org/qr/qry.02freezingwater.html - http://www.weatherwise.org/qr/qry.02freezingwater.html |
Posted By: HeadHunter59
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 2:59pm
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I know it boils faster but still not sureon freezeing. lol Have to try it now. |
Posted By: Hysteria
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 3:00pm
| Freezing is true. |
Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 3:05pm
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http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/General/hot_water.html - http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/General/hot_water.html There ya go slick. ------------- ? |
Posted By: Monk
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 3:09pm
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Maybe cause the hot water has less mass per volume than the cold water? I dont know, physics is over, I dont have to think about that anymore. Reb, Id love to read that, but again its the summer bro. |
Posted By: oreomann33
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 3:09pm
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http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/General/hot_water.html - It does
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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 3:10pm
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beat ya. ------------- ? |
Posted By: agentwhale007.
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 3:11pm
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NiQ, you can gladly take that foot out of your mouth now.... ------------- Hey, nice marmot!  |
Posted By: NiQ-Toto
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 3:12pm
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No it doesnt! AHHHHH! Take 2 cups and put them in the freezer. The cold one will freeze faster! ------------- ///AMG What? |
Posted By: cdacda13
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 3:14pm
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Posted By: Dom
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 3:14pm
No, no it won't. Take a basic Chemistry class. Most teachers throw in a lesson about this subject, and some (like mine) will prove it. |
Posted By: NiQ-Toto
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 3:16pm
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Test it yourself. Do it. I bet youre wrong. ------------- ///AMG What? |
Posted By: Homer J
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 3:16pm
| I'll PM Chewp and see if he still has that video... |
Posted By: pb125
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 3:17pm
o yeah!! He throws hot water in the air and it froze before it hit the ground. That was awesome. |
Posted By: agentwhale007.
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 3:17pm
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That dosent count, he lives in the freakin' arctic.... ------------- Hey, nice marmot! |
Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 3:17pm
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I HAVE done it. When I was in like 6th grade, we had to do this experiment for homework one night. So I did. And the warm water froze quicker than the cold water.
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 3:19pm
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It's not a binary question:
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 3:37pm
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Didnt I already prove everything on this topic last year!?!
Yes, it only works in some conditions. ------------- 
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Posted By: PlentifulBalls
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 3:44pm
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Water tastes good.
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Posted By: Hysteria
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 3:51pm
| Ever had bong water? |
Posted By: Fan of Flip
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 3:52pm
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Posted By: Hysteria
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 3:54pm
> 32* |
Posted By: holysmartone
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 4:04pm
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Im sure all the studies done on this topic by scientists have lead to
great breakthroughs in the fields of medicine, energy, and weapons. Seriously dont scientists have better things to do than debate whether hot or cold water freezes and boils faster? |
Posted By: Giblin
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 4:16pm
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OK to set this all straght for you scraching your head going what? Hot
water dose freeze faster for one reason stated here befor when you put hot water in a freezer it speeds up the evaporation proses lessing the amout of mass left behind to freeze. So it wil freez faster. Unless you add more water at the same rate that it is evaporates and at the same temp as the water as it cools over time then it will freeze slower. As for boiling faster it does boil faster well because there is less energy needed to get the water to 212 f Now I have to ask why the hell this came up in the frist place |
Posted By: Apu
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 4:18pm
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Don't Zambonis use hot water?
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Posted By: Giblin
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 4:39pm
| yes |
Posted By: NiQ-Toto
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 4:40pm
Apu: Zambonis use hot water because it smooths out the ice. ------------- ///AMG What? |
Posted By: benttwig33
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 5:00pm
that makes no sense anyway 
or at least not to me why would hot water freeze faster? Cold water is closer to freezing temperture...so shouldn't it get to freeze first? ------------- Sig is WAY too big. |
Posted By: EriK6
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 5:46pm
| It doesnt matter which boils or freezes faster. |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 7:31pm
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http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/General/hot_water.html - Read up, people. Try it yourself... -------------
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 7:44pm
| I am no longer surprised by forumers unwillingness to accept science... |
Posted By: Smitty
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 7:45pm
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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 7:46pm
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Posted By: Smitty
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 7:48pm
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I've never heard it either.
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 7:51pm
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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 7:56pm
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Ohhh. ------------- A-5 E-Grip JCS Dual Trigger DOP X-CORE 8 stage x-chamber Lapco Bigshot 14" Beadblasted Optional setup: R/T Dead on Blade trigger |
Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 9:19pm
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Just so you know, its not that the time it takes for a cup of water to
go from 96* to 31* is less than it takes a cup of water to go from 45*
to 31*. Its stating that it takes less time for the water that was
previously at 96* and is now at 45* to go from 45* to 31* than the
water that was at 45* in the first place to make it to 31*. If any of that makes sense to you, i'll send you a hg via e-mail. ------------- 
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Posted By: NiQ-Toto
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 9:22pm
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Gatyr: That actually made a whole lot of sence to me, and THAT seems so much more logical then saying "water at 96° will get to 31° faster then water that started at 45°."
Edit: Let me work this out, tell me if this if correct. You take a cup of water at 100°F. Put it in the freezer with a thermometer that you can read somehow. When the water gets to 50°F you put another cup of water in that is 50°F, but the water that started at 100°F will freeze sooner than the one that started at 50°F? Correct? If yes, i guess that makes a LOT more sense then the previous argument. ------------- ///AMG What? |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 9:47pm
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Actually, no. It means what we said. Under some conditions, warm water will freeze faster than cold water. Not water that used to be warm - water that IS warm. Several links have been posted. Read. |
Posted By: Jim Paint
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 9:54pm
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pshhh Clark. Science is fo fools ------------- 
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Posted By: Atrosity
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 10:16pm
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Warm water freezes faster and warm water boils faster. And that's
because it does, ok. I just don't get how homeopathic medicine works....
does anyone here even know what homeopathic means?
------------- "Who me? No I'm quite blunt, like a sledghammer to the temple."-Me |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 10:21pm
| Cold water boils faster? I hadn't heard that. Do you have a link? |
Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 10:22pm
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They said something about that on hells kitchen, and the chef laughed at the lady. ------------- A-5 E-Grip JCS Dual Trigger DOP X-CORE 8 stage x-chamber Lapco Bigshot 14" Beadblasted Optional setup: R/T Dead on Blade trigger |
Posted By: Atrosity
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 10:29pm
------------- "Who me? No I'm quite blunt, like a sledghammer to the temple."-Me |
Posted By: mysteriousone
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 10:31pm
-------------  "Where is your beer tonight? I hope its a heineken."
Jesus is my savior |
Posted By: NiQ-Toto
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 10:34pm
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 10:37pm
| ^^^^^^ That's a pretty high standard... |
Posted By: Jim Paint
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 10:40pm
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Bootleggers never ceases to amaze me either. -------------
saepe fidelis |
Posted By: mysteriousone
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 10:44pm
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it is true if you dont believe me try it ------------- "Where is your beer tonight? I hope its a heineken."
Jesus is my savior |
Posted By: Atrosity
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 10:44pm
Do you have any idea what you just said? I quote again:
I think you should stay mysterious just for saying that. I mean I never could have THOUGHT of that, and I've had my stupid ideas, believe you me. ------------- "Who me? No I'm quite blunt, like a sledghammer to the temple."-Me |
Posted By: mysteriousone
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 10:50pm
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have you tested it yet? because its true ------------- "Where is your beer tonight? I hope its a heineken."
Jesus is my savior |
Posted By: Atrosity
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 10:52pm
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^^^^ You do it and tape it for me, then host it. Then I will believe you, but not before. Why would it have to cool down? ------------- "Who me? No I'm quite blunt, like a sledghammer to the temple."-Me |
Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 10:52pm
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I guess we have the American school system to thank for that. ------------- 
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Posted By: mysteriousone
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 10:54pm
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my third grade science project "which boils faster" i got third for it ------------- "Where is your beer tonight? I hope its a heineken."
Jesus is my savior |
Posted By: Atrosity
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 10:56pm
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Wait, oh my god, he might be onto something here, follow me on this
guys. Say you have water at 50* and water at like 75* (both celsius).
Well wouldn't it make sense that you would have to heat the hotter
water longer before it would boil, because the cooler water would react
to the heat faster, being that it has less 'heat' already? ZOMG, it
makes sense. Hell really has frozen over (long story) ------------- "Who me? No I'm quite blunt, like a sledghammer to the temple."-Me |
Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 10:56pm
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There were only three contestants. And I think if I'm for sure that heat is the friction of molecules rubbing together-when you turn the heat up on your burner the molecules are only going to speed up. They don't slow down first. -------------
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Posted By: Atrosity
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 10:58pm
------------- "Who me? No I'm quite blunt, like a sledghammer to the temple."-Me |
Posted By: mysteriousone
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 10:58pm
------------- "Where is your beer tonight? I hope its a heineken."
Jesus is my savior |
Posted By: mysteriousone
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 10:59pm
doesn't it feel good to have a good point and nobody believes you untill one day they finally realize that you were right ------------- "Where is your beer tonight? I hope its a heineken."
Jesus is my savior |
Posted By: Atrosity
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 11:02pm
Man being wrong sucks, I should just go back to being right all the time, it's so much better....... ------------- "Who me? No I'm quite blunt, like a sledghammer to the temple."-Me |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 11:05pm
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The web disagrees with you. I did find some references that indicated that previously boiled water might boil again faster, due to lack of oxygen in the water. Did you pre-boil your water? |
Posted By: Atrosity
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 11:17pm
That's kinda wierd, I know that thats true, but if you boiled it, then condensed all the water, wouldn't it (or shouldn't it) have the correct 1/3 of oxygen? ------------- "Who me? No I'm quite blunt, like a sledghammer to the temple."-Me |
Posted By: mysteriousone
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 11:23pm
i should be right more often its fun... ------------- "Where is your beer tonight? I hope its a heineken."
Jesus is my savior |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 11:24pm
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The articles were a little vague, but I don't think they recondensed the water. I think they meant the water that was left in the pot after boiling for a while, without recapturing the steam. My guess. |
Posted By: Hysteria
Date Posted: 21 June 2005 at 12:48am
| The world is going to blow up if we do not find the solutions to these problems by 12:00 central. |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 21 June 2005 at 3:23am
Didn't you watch that video I made... I boil water, and throw it in the air and it freezes... I posted pics of it too, c'mon. I think High Voltage may have hosted it, I'll see. |
Posted By: Kpoofs
Date Posted: 21 June 2005 at 3:52am
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I've always used cold water when I needed boiling water. We also did
that hot water thing in the air doo-dad mabob in my physics class. Both
are true.
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Posted By: NiQ-Toto
Date Posted: 21 June 2005 at 9:44am
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Choopie, did you try the same with cold water? Maybe the hot froze so fast because the steam and other vapor was freezing around it? I dont know.. ------------- ///AMG What? |
Posted By: Pariel
Date Posted: 21 June 2005 at 9:46am
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It may react sooner-but if you've got an electrical-burner stove, this doesn't work. It heats up too fast.
I'll stick with my semi-warm water. |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 21 June 2005 at 2:36pm
Yes, I have. NiQ, it is scientificly proven that boiling water freezes faster than cold water. I have no idea why, but I have done it many times, and the forum has witnessed it. I dont think the video is around anymore (went down with paintballchat) For it to freeze before hitting the ground, it must be -40º or colder, but boiling water still freezes more quickly. After searching a fair bit: http://www.snowpics.net/media/P1140017.mov - http://www.snowpics.net/media/P1140017.mov You can see the distinct trails behind each freezing/frozen drop of water. Also seen here: 
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Posted By: PlentifulBalls
Date Posted: 21 June 2005 at 2:39pm
Yes. Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeew. -------------
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Posted By: Bunkered
Date Posted: 21 June 2005 at 3:04pm
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/me tests what freezes faster... regular water or bong water? ------------- 
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Posted By: Hysteria
Date Posted: 21 June 2005 at 3:11pm
| Regular, becuase there is less impuraties in it. |
Posted By: BlackDeath7
Date Posted: 21 June 2005 at 3:41pm
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Bong water, are you guys serious?
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 21 June 2005 at 4:14pm
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It really doesnt matter. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors"> 
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Posted By: lester98c
Date Posted: 21 June 2005 at 4:31pm
| sounds like a job for mythbusters |
Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 21 June 2005 at 4:56pm
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I feel so much dumber after reading this thread. edit- But I did not know that before, so I guess I learned something. -------------  irc.esper.net #paintball |
Posted By: Homer J
Date Posted: 21 June 2005 at 6:09pm
Put a stick in it and you'll have a great popsicle for later. 
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Posted By: oreomann33
Date Posted: 21 June 2005 at 6:22pm
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Its just a ice. Why is this 5 pages long?
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 21 June 2005 at 7:07pm
| Because I provided video and picture evidence, and I've seen you in a dress. |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 21 June 2005 at 7:17pm
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Because people arent willing to accept facts when they are right in front of them. They have faith they are somehow right. -------------
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 21 June 2005 at 7:22pm
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ooooh hateez.. I bought something for you
Nothing amazing, but it'l be mailed soon. |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 21 June 2005 at 7:25pm
Sweet, your amazing enough....  -------------
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