Speaking of the government...
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Topic: Speaking of the government...
Posted By: Predatorr
Subject: Speaking of the government...
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 3:16pm
| Did anyone else hear about that like 90 year old man who killed a black guy in the 50's and was a KKK member thats all over the news ? They're trying to put him in jail. I really don't get it, hes had to live with that his whole life and now he's probably just an old bitter man. What's making him eat nasty food and sitting in an uncomfortable cell gonna change. It's the government wasting time and money on an old man. Thats just stupid, if somebody wants justice on this old man, thats just petty. He's gonna die soon regardless so let it go people. Anyways what are your thoughts? |
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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 3:17pm
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So, if someone killed your family and he was caught 50 years from now wouldn't youw ant closure? ------------- 
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Posted By: HeadHunter59
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 3:22pm
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Yeah thats been on the news. The guy is in a wheel chair. And hes on and oxygen tank. So its kinda point less Just put him on house arrests(sp?) Instead of jail. I mean hes not going anwhere. Just my 2cents |
Posted By: NotDaveEllis
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 3:24pm
I think he looks like the great america guy
DA DAAA DAAA DANUH |
Posted By: Predatorr
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 3:25pm
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justice - yes putting an old fragile cenile man in jail- no, it just isnt right, but then again neither is killing but still, hes old |
Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 3:25pm
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Pred, when you get into highschool, you'll take American history and you will learn all about that case. -------------
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Posted By: Predatorr
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 3:26pm
| im gonna be a sophmore next year, yeah we've learned a wee bit about that but not much. I just think eff it hes old, let him die lonely |
Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 3:28pm
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OK, I didn't know how you were, sorry.
Sophomore year it's a requirement (atleats in michigan) to take American History. You will go into gret detail about major/landmark cases and times in our history. A good class. -------------
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Posted By: Atrosity
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 3:36pm
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Yeah that is kinda stupid. Where you at in MI Linus?
------------- "Who me? No I'm quite blunt, like a sledghammer to the temple."-Me |
Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 3:37pm
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Southeast portion, Lake Orion
About 2 minutes away from the Palace of Auburn Hills and 2 away from Great Lake Crossing. -------------
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Posted By: BlackDeath7
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 3:52pm
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Predatorr, you are contradicting yourself. If you want justice, than you should support putting this man in jail. That's because he KILLED people. ------------- 
Brett Favre gets sacked again. |
Posted By: GUNDAM_99
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 4:01pm
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There is no time limit to charge someone with murder
but he probable wont endup going because the cost to care for him would be huge. ------------- |
Posted By: Smitty
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 4:01pm
I agree with HeadHunter. House arrest is needed. Jail is pushing it too far. I saw a preview for a movie about a blind guy inthe KKK. He was VERY anti-black. The thing was he was blind his whole life, and no one saw him without the mask. He took it off one time, and he was black! I forget the name of the movie, but it was quite a while ago. I wanted to see that so bad.
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 4:52pm
| The statute of limitations is forever on murder, he deserves to be charged and placed in jail. |
Posted By: lester98c
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 5:09pm
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i vote death penalty imediataly no questions asked |
Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 5:10pm
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Since I am extremely against the death penalty, I won't go that far. But he should go to prison like any other criminal. |
Posted By: cdacda13
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 5:16pm
Dude, that was Chappelle's Show. Clayton Bigsbe. Leading white supremece, who in fact, was black. (NOT A TRUE STORY, ITS FICTION) |
Smitty wrote:Posted By: Rico's Revenge
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 5:24pm
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Dave Chappelle... The movie Mississippi Burning is about this guy and what happened. I actually would have agreed with you. So would have alot of the jury members. BUT... he screwed himself. The jury came out and announced they were having a hard time reaching a verdict and the guy smirked openly. He knew he was guilty and thought that he was getting away with it. The jury saw that and I think it ticked they thought the same thing. Then they came back with the Guilty Verdict. |
Posted By: RustyNail
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 5:32pm
Chappelle's Show = Teh pwn ------------- This sig doesnt fly. A-5 E-Grip Lapco Bigshot 12" (Bead Blasted) Maddmann Spring Kit |
Posted By: Pariel
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 5:51pm
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There's a reason the statute of limitations is unlimited for the murder.
It should be applied. Heck, maybe it'll end the poor guy's life sooner. I know I wouldn't want to be living like he is. *EDIT*Wow, that was one big typo. I was just kinda typing away... I don't think he should get the death penalty-personally, I think that A)gives the killer an easy way out(no matter what the situation), and B)if we're wrong(come on guys, it happens), they're not dead because of it. |
Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 5:53pm
| It's not unlimited for the death penalty...it's unlimited for homicide. Punishments aren't the reason for it. |
Posted By: Homer J
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 5:59pm
| He got 60 years, so he'll be out when he's 140 or so. |
Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 6:00pm
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He could be out in 6-10 for good behavior. |
Posted By: Hitman
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 6:19pm
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He got away with a disgusting crime for way too long. He is living filth, who should be left to rot in jail. ------------- |
Posted By: Pariel
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 6:28pm
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I agree with Hitman. Like I said before, the unilmited statute should be applied.
Yeah, that was a typo Dune, I went back and fixed it. Sorry. *EDIT* So, grammar went down the drain today, or so it looks like. |
Posted By: MagicMikebb
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 8:05pm
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It would be easiest to put a bullet through his head.
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Posted By: Pariel
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 8:08pm
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You know, we talked about that last year, and that's supposedly the most expensive method.
The government has to pay for counciling for the guys in the firing squad, and all that jazz. Gets expensive. Now lethal injection, that's pretty cheap. So's throwing him into a river/the ocean, off a cliff, blowing him up... Yeah, so I've noticed I'm getting more and more cynical/sadistic lately. Not good. |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 8:53pm
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So, by this theory, we should have stopped chasing Nazi war criminals in the 1980s, since it was so long ago? If somebody killed your brother 40 years ago, and was never put in jail, would you cavalierly go "eh - no biggie, ancient history"? I think not. The only injustice here is that Killen was allowed to walk free all this time. |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 8:56pm
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They should make me his cellmate. I have a thing for older men and I bet he cant fight back very well. ------------- 
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Posted By: Fat Stalin
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 8:57pm
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He had his 40 years of freedom. Let him do his time and die. ------------- 
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 9:07pm
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As said before, you think if some racist guy came in and killed your family purely because of their race, and they finally caught him 50 years down the road, you'd say "oh, it's ok"
I don't think so. He deserves to do his time, and I think he should. The whole KKK thing just irks me, and theres men who used to be in it like him who are still EXTREMELY racist, and would still kill if they could. Lock him up, if one gets away, why cant they all? |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 9:11pm
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I love how most of the KKK's land is now owned by a black woman.
There is justice if I ever saw it. -------------
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Posted By: Hitman
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 9:16pm
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What sickens me most about the KKK, is that these people are doing it
in the name of Christianity. These people, while alive believe they are
going to heaven. And that is all that matters. This guy will die
thinking he is making it into heaven. And that means he wins in the
long run.
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Posted By: Pariel
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 9:18pm
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They're our version of Al-Qaeda.
Either way, Hades is right. The stuff in your sig, Hades, freaked out my friend when he read it. |
Posted By: Predatorr
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 9:25pm
| Extremists = bad To answer clark kent, im just saying that the guy is 91 years old (estimating here), and it doesnt matter where he rots anymore cause hes on oxygen etc. But i do agree that justice is needed. Heck the guy would probably die on the way to jail. To the choopster, Yes i would want justice 50 years down the road, But the Bible talks about forgiving and whatnot. I would want to see some punishment within reason, and im not condoning what he did. Just im asking what is putting him in jail going to accomplish? Satisfaction for the family who's relative was killed x amount of years ago? It's not my perogative, but obviously its a criminal charge and the gov'ts problem..And hitman he has been getting away with a disgusting crime for many many years, but he's had to live with that. My basic opinion is that, a reasonable punishment should be given, and i think that a man who can't even function normally shouldnt be in jail, he should be dead. |
Posted By: Hitman
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 9:27pm
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I personally think death is too good for him. I think he should be kept alive as long as possible, while in jail. This guy was an ex-pastor at a church, if I'm not mistaken. The second before he dies, he will die believing he is going to heaven. I want this man to suffer while alive for the longest possible time. ------------- |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 9:33pm
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To answer the question of what this accomplishes: Equal justice for all. If you manage to elude justice for 50 years, justice will still get you. If we let guys like this walk, how can we have faith in the justice system? In this particular case, of course, there is also more to it. This case cannot be viewed in a vacuum; there is plenty of history. The Feds had him pegged as the killer almost right away, but he wasn't put in jail because of the evil times. This isn't even the first time he was charged with this crime. It makes pretty interesting reading... |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 9:39pm
Religion has NOTHING to do with law, nor should it. So say a jewish guy, or a muslim guy is the one pressing charges, the christian judge is supposed to say "nope, sorry, your religion is wrong, you should forgive him by now" Keep the playing field level and keep religion as far away from law as possible. |
Posted By: Predatorr
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 9:43pm
| good point...hmm im trying to play the fair field without caring about his age which is kinda hard. You know what hitman i guess youre right, he thinks hes gonna go to heaven and he deserves to suffer until that last breath... but just look at that poonum!!! kidding... |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 9:43pm
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Try telling all the Jews that they are letting Hitler off the hook because he is old now and need to be forgiven. -------------
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 9:45pm
He's dead, silly 
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Posted By: Predatorr
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 9:47pm
| hitler was manic depressive ( or something else) and was addicted to what we now call "speed". But i see what you mean hades, we can't really forgive for that kind of thing, like if he stole your trikey 50 years ago thats one thing, but genocide or a simple murder is another.. |
Posted By: Pariel
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 9:48pm
| We convict drug users all the time... |
Posted By: Hysteria
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 9:50pm
Welcome to the family.  |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 9:51pm
He was also a vegitarian (but ate pork  ) was very good to his animals, wanted to be an art student, never smoked, and never drank. He loved the opera as I recall.
Can't really profile people...doesnt work. |
Posted By: Pariel
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 9:53pm
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It's cool, I've been picking on my brother's girlfriend/close friend all evening...I feel better now. Dude, Hitler was just plain messed up. Nothin' more to be said. |
Posted By: Predatorr
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 9:59pm
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have you seen hitlers art?!?!?! They did something on the history channel and he was a emmer effing amazing painter. Seriously, but of course all artists are crazy, homo, or drug addicts (stereotyping..) He even designed the stwasticka (sp) . But he was a cynical genocide starting |
tard...anyone who watches Red Vs Blue will understand the cencored smiley with tard after it...Posted By: Predatorr
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 9:59pm
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i walked in on my brother and his girlfriend....*shudder* but she was hot! |
Posted By: Pariel
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 10:03pm
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Well, lots of places had the swastika before he "made" it...so I doubt that.
Either way... My friend was on PbN, and he was in this thread, and it was like(I hate yet to see this thead, but it sounds funny)...: So, I was making out with my girlfriend's stepsister's friend, at my girlfriend's house...and my girlfriend's mom comes in. So, she's like "Uh, what are you guys doing?". "Just...hanging out". "Naked?" "...Yeah". |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 10:05pm
Um, the swastika was a religious symbol to begin with, he just turned it around so it faced the other way. I haven't seen his art, but I didn't imagine it would be too good, as he failed at becoming an art student. That was one of the things that started his strong hatred of the Jews. He blamed his failed art attempts on the Jews in the faculty, etc. |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 10:19pm
I think killing 3 people because they didnt agree with your beliefs then pretended to be a good church boy is pretty psycho.
I forget that fact sometimes since I have breakfast with him every other Tuesday... Living in the depths of hell is so peaceful that I forget I am here sometimes and not living in your RL world. -------------
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 11:05pm
| I understand the mix-up, it's ok. Give him a good boot in the groin for me would ya? |