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Posted By: Tippmann98mike
Subject: question
Date Posted: 25 June 2005 at 6:53pm
i am just wonder, i dont want to do this i am just curious. i heard that silencers actually work. i just want to know if thats true.

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Posted By: TRC1040
Date Posted: 25 June 2005 at 6:57pm
silencers are just like a pipe insulator... thye work a little but with a tippmann its the internals that make most of the noise

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Posted By: TRC1040
Date Posted: 25 June 2005 at 7:37pm
more ppl will respond to your post if the titles are more interesting... just FYI

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Posted By: rossy11223
Date Posted: 25 June 2005 at 8:14pm
They don't work that great and they are illegal.


Posted By: Killgore
Date Posted: 25 June 2005 at 8:56pm
Not on paintball guns. They are illegal only on real guns.

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Posted By: TRC1040
Date Posted: 25 June 2005 at 8:59pm
i think he ment for a turny but i may be wrong... idk why you would want onw for a turny

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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 25 June 2005 at 9:11pm

Originally posted by TRC1040 TRC1040 wrote:

i think he ment for a turny but i may be wrong... idk why you would want onw for a turny

No, moron.

Anyway, you would have to check your local/state laws and check what their guidelines are on silencers. Generally, they are frowned upon. If you want quiet, buy a higher end gun. Tippmanns are not ever going to be real stealthy.



Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 25 June 2005 at 9:12pm

Actually, silencers are ILLEGAL on paintball guns also. The only "silencer" thats legal on a paintball gun is porting, and thats because it can't be used to silence the report of a real firearm.

In order to get a LEGAL silencer you need to pay a $200 stamp tax and fill out alot of paperwork.



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Posted By: TRC1040
Date Posted: 25 June 2005 at 10:37pm

wait are you talking about the silencer that goes over the barrel?



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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 25 June 2005 at 10:40pm
Yes.

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Posted By: TRC1040
Date Posted: 25 June 2005 at 10:51pm
i dont really understand why they would be illegal, a paintball gun isn't a firearm

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Posted By: rossy11223
Date Posted: 25 June 2005 at 10:52pm
But it could be dangerous when used in the wrong way.


Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 25 June 2005 at 10:53pm
No, its because Illegal silencers can be adapted to fit a firearm.

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Posted By: TRC1040
Date Posted: 25 June 2005 at 10:55pm
well semi auto guns can be made into auto that doesnt make them illegal... in Vermont at least

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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 25 June 2005 at 10:56pm
Actually, modifying a firearm to shoot in a way it wasnt intended isnt exactly legal.

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Posted By: TRC1040
Date Posted: 25 June 2005 at 11:16pm
i know that... i was saying that firearms aren't illegal but modifying them is, but hta doesnt make fireamrs illegal. so what i was getting at was how come paintball gun silencers are illegal.... nvm

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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 25 June 2005 at 11:19pm

I agree 100% with what the BATF says on this issue. What happens if some psycho gets his hands on a paintball silencer and modifies it for use with a firearm and goes on a shooting rampage with it?



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Posted By: cdacda13
Date Posted: 25 June 2005 at 11:20pm
Its illegal.

(I hope this was said before)


Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 25 June 2005 at 11:21pm

Many times



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Posted By: cdacda13
Date Posted: 25 June 2005 at 11:24pm
Originally posted by You Wont See Me You Wont See Me wrote:

Many times


Its late, im tried, and im sore, so im too lazy to read the replys


Posted By: Pro-litey
Date Posted: 26 June 2005 at 6:38am
Originally posted by You Wont See Me You Wont See Me wrote:

I agree 100% with what the BATF says on this issue. What happens if some psycho gets his hands on a paintball silencer and modifies it for use with a firearm and goes on a shooting rampage with it?


yea well what if they dont use a paintball silencer. all you have to do is put a two liter on the end of the barrel and that works just as good as or better than a real silencer. so why arent two liters illegal?

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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 26 June 2005 at 11:22am
If they are modified to silence the report of a firearm, they are illegal.

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Posted By: Pro-litey
Date Posted: 26 June 2005 at 11:31am
what do you mean motified all you have to do is hold the opening to the barrel and fire it works that easy

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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 26 June 2005 at 11:38am
Are you talking about a 2 liter pop bottle? If so if you didnt modify it you'd put the barrel through the neck and and the paint would bust all over the inside because you were dumb and didnt cut a hole for the paint to leave.

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Posted By: A-5 08
Date Posted: 26 June 2005 at 11:42am
^^^ I suppose you could call that modification though

you are altering it from its original purpose, to hold soda

to change, to make different, to alter,

those are my ideas of modification


Bottom line, illegal in most all respects without going to drastic measures. Do you want to pay $200 just to make your gun a little bit more silent?

PLUS a 2 liter pop bottle would mascre paint, badly,



EDIT post not DIrected to YWSM



Posted By: Pro-litey
Date Posted: 26 June 2005 at 11:42am
im not talkin for paintball guns DUH thats why i was saying why arent pop bottles illegal.

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Posted By: A-5 08
Date Posted: 26 June 2005 at 11:44am
^^^still modification pro-litey


Posted By: Pro-litey
Date Posted: 26 June 2005 at 11:47am
Originally posted by A-5 08 A-5 08 wrote:

^^^still modification pro-litey

thats not what im talking about im making an argument that if paintball silencers are illegal because they can be used to silence real guns why arent pop bottles illegal because they can be used to silence real guns.

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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 26 June 2005 at 11:49am

If they were used to silence real guns, they would be illegal.

 

The BATF states that anything that silences the report of a firearm(they consider paintball guns firearms) is illegal.



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Posted By: Pro-litey
Date Posted: 26 June 2005 at 11:50am
ok nvm no one gets my point so im just gunna drop it.

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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 26 June 2005 at 11:51am

TIme for complete ownage......taken from http://www.paintballzone.com - www.paintballzone.com  I took out the stuff about how to register a silencer to make this a little shorter. You can find all that info at the above link.

The Truth about the Legality of “Silencers” and how to make yours legal:

Yes Silencers, Suppressors, Mufflers, “Barrel Extensions”, “Accuracy Improver” are considered
Silencers by the BATF, and Silencers are not illegal IF you register it with the BATF.  
You can call Silencers what ever you want, i.e. Suppressors, Mufflers, “Barrel Extensions”,
“Accuracy Improver” or what ever you want, BUT if it “Silences”, (reduces the noise signature of
a fired projectile weapon even a little, (that amount is decided by the BATF usually more that 5
db). See copy of FAQ questions and Answers from the BATFs website, (a copy of this along with
the website is at the end of this document for your convenience).
    Porting on a barrel is not considered a “Silencer” since it is integral with the structure of
the barrel and the “Porting” obviously can’t be modified for a Firearm and is not portable, Yes, I
know there are quite ported barrels out there, but porting in the barrels cannot be transported to
or adapted from the paint barrel to a true firearm. It sounds like silly splitting of hairs and very
obvious to you and I, but, the Distinction is VERY important to Governmental types, and is the
difference between a $50,000 fine and/or 5yrs in a Federal prison.
    We have all seen the “Barrel Extensions” from certain paintball sites, that claim to improve
accuracy, and they say “Don’t ask us how much it silences the gun”. (A Duck by any other name
is still a Duck, even if you say don’t ask it to quack). These devices are built on the same
principles and construction techniques as in some of the “How to build a Disposable silencer” type
books like the one by Hayduke, published by Palidin press, (yes a friend of mine has one of the
Barrel Extensions which we took apart, there is not any difference in its, design and operating
principles as several of the “Disposable silencers”, in Hayduke's books).

    To me a $200.00 Tax and filling out some paper work is A lot cheaper than a $50,000/5yr
prison fine + court/Lawyer cost, if you get caught with a unregistered Silencer. Note Uncle has all
the time and money to prosecute you, while you sit in jail with your new friend “Bubba” waiting
on trial.


    Will the BATF lock you up for having a unregistered silencer on your paint gun?  Who knows
It depends on how much some Law Enforcement person wants to make an example out of you, or not.
But if it does go to court, you are in violation of federal law, as in all things its your choice to take the risk or not.

Hope this clears things up,

Scott “Poppa Bear” Shafer

 

Striaght from the BATF website:

(A9) Q. Are Paintball and/or Airgun Sound Suppressers legal? [Back]

A. §921(a)(24) The terms "firearm silencer" and "firearm muffler" mean any device for
silencing, muffling, or diminishing the report of a portable firearm, including any
combination of parts, designed or redesigned, and intended for use in assembling or
fabricating a firearm silencer or firearm muffler, and any part intended only for use in such
assembly or fabrication.

Numerous paintball silencers tested by the Firearms Technology Branch have been
determined to be, by nature of their design and function, firearm silencers as defined in 18
U.S.C., Section 921(a)(24). An individual wishing to manufacturer a firearm silencer must
receive prior approval from ATF by submitting an ATF Form 1 and paying a $200 making
tax.

If I have any further questions as to this classification, who should I contact?

Please send a written request to our Firearms Technology Branch at the following address:

Bureau of ATF
Firearms Technology Branch
650 Massachusetts Avenue, NW
Room 6450
Washington, DC 20226

The URL for the above on the BATF website:
http://www.atf.treas.gov/firearms/faq/faq2.htm - http://www.atf.treas.gov/firearms/faq/faq2.htm  
 



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Posted By: Pro-litey
Date Posted: 26 June 2005 at 11:54am
yea right you expect me to read all that.pff no friggen way dude.

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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 26 June 2005 at 11:56am
I shortened it just for you.

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Posted By: A-5 08
Date Posted: 26 June 2005 at 11:57am
^^^owned

check your state

here in MN sound supressors are ILLEGAL in pretty much all respects

http://www.mp5.net/info/sbsconr.htm - link

The quoted part is good.


Sound supressors are illegal here. A modified homade device would fall under that i am pretty sure.


Posted By: TRC1040
Date Posted: 26 June 2005 at 12:22pm
are we talking about real guns or paintball guns?

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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 26 June 2005 at 1:36pm

Its ILLEGAL on BOTH.



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Posted By: Pro-litey
Date Posted: 26 June 2005 at 1:37pm
its only illegal if you get caught.

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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 26 June 2005 at 1:42pm
Is 5 years in prison and a $50,000 fine really worth a quieter paintball marker?

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Posted By: Pro-litey
Date Posted: 26 June 2005 at 1:46pm
YES

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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 26 June 2005 at 1:50pm
Originally posted by Pro-litey Pro-litey wrote:

YES
I seriously hope you try it then and get caught, then they can use that post against you in court.

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Posted By: Pro-litey
Date Posted: 26 June 2005 at 1:54pm
well thats mean. i dont like you any more.

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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 26 June 2005 at 1:55pm
Join the club, I'm not here to make friends.

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Posted By: Pro-litey
Date Posted: 26 June 2005 at 1:57pm
wow theres a club? whos all in it?

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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 26 June 2005 at 2:04pm

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Posted By: VTpaintballer
Date Posted: 26 June 2005 at 7:00pm
can this be done?


Posted By: TRC1040
Date Posted: 26 June 2005 at 7:02pm

Originally posted by VTpaintballer VTpaintballer wrote:

can this be done?

VT left his User name up on my comp... this was me who said that



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Posted By: Tippmann98mike
Date Posted: 26 June 2005 at 7:15pm
i know they are illegal on all guns, but i just wnated to know if they worked on pb guns, i dont want one just wondering, thanks 

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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 26 June 2005 at 7:18pm
Originally posted by VTpaintballer VTpaintballer wrote:

can this be done?
Yes it can. Just click LogoutLogout [You Wont See Me] and you won't have to worry about me anymore.

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Posted By: EriK6
Date Posted: 26 June 2005 at 7:26pm
^^^ Would That Work? ^^^

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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 26 June 2005 at 7:28pm

Yes.



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