Double Firing
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Category: Paintball Equipment
Forum Name: Gun Maintenace and Repair
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Topic: Double Firing
Posted By: daman 432 c4
Subject: Double Firing
Date Posted: 30 June 2005 at 10:42am
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Here's the deal: I have a 98 Custom, GTA X-Chamber, Ricochet Apache Loader, Dead on Pro-Seal, CP one piece 16" barrel, GTA double trigger, and I have a rear trigger stop, pen spring mod, polished internals and thats it. I've had my 98 for about 1 year and 4 months. The problem is that every time I go to shoot with my full 20oz tank, it starts to sputter, double fire, and chop almost very couple of shots. Note that once the tank empties out to having maybe 300 shots left, it goes back to normal. IT ONLY SPUTTERS, CHOPS AND DOUBLE FIRES WHEN THE TANK IS FULL. I'm not sure if it is a tank problem, both of my 20oz have the same problem, but when I use 12grams it is fine, nothing happens with a 12gram, or if the sear and/or rear bolt are worn out. |
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Posted By: Sureshot3091
Date Posted: 30 June 2005 at 10:49am
| The only thing I can think of is did you oil it? Cause thats happened to me before and once I oiled it it went fine.... |
Posted By: daman 432 c4
Date Posted: 30 June 2005 at 12:47pm
| yeah I oil every time I play. I also am pretty much forced to open it up and clean it every time I play because it gets all gummed up from all the chops. |
Posted By: Sureshot3091
Date Posted: 30 June 2005 at 12:55pm
| I don't know what to tell you....What kind of hopper do you have? |
Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 30 June 2005 at 10:01pm
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Ricochet Apache Loader
------------- A-5 E-Grip JCS Dual Trigger DOP X-CORE 8 stage x-chamber Lapco Bigshot 14" Beadblasted Optional setup: R/T Dead on Blade trigger |
Posted By: Monk
Date Posted: 30 June 2005 at 11:21pm
| Only thing I can think of, is that its getting liquid CO2 in the gun. |
Posted By: daman 432 c4
Date Posted: 01 July 2005 at 11:41am
Would that actually make it double fire and stuff?? I do have an X-Chamber, and I don't get any snow out of anywhere so.... Is it better to call or email Tippmann?? |
Monk wrote:Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 01 July 2005 at 11:48am
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Call, I've never got a response from tippy via e-mail
------------- A-5 E-Grip JCS Dual Trigger DOP X-CORE 8 stage x-chamber Lapco Bigshot 14" Beadblasted Optional setup: R/T Dead on Blade trigger |
Posted By: Monk
Date Posted: 01 July 2005 at 6:46pm
In that case call Tippmann. It could be a bunch of things, such as a rounded sear or somthing. |
Posted By: tigman250
Date Posted: 01 July 2005 at 10:44pm
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is the tank screwed all the way in it sounds as if the pinvalve isn't pushed all the way in possibly starving the marker for air but it does it with both tanks and if that was the case it shoot fine at first and taper off..............mmmmm that's a tough one could be a problem with your sear it's possible when your tank is full it's slamming the rear bolt back so hard it's rebounding off of the o-ring cushion with enough force to push it past a worn sear????? does the gun have a million shots on it? ------------- http://img76.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stickemup6of.jpg"> 
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Posted By: daman 432 c4
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 5:40pm
Im not sure how many shots are on it, but it's probably around the mid or high hundreds of thousands. The sear does look a little bit rounded, so does the rear bolt. I was thinking that maybe because I polished my internals, the full tank might be pushing the bolt back too fast for the sear to reset. |
Posted By: tigman250
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 11:03pm
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i would borrow a friends marker and swap the sear and rear bolt to see if thoes are the bad parts if it works then you know what you have to order or just send it in (be sure your friend knows your intentions before you dissasemble his marker) ------------- http://img76.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stickemup6of.jpg">
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Posted By: Monk
Date Posted: 03 July 2005 at 1:49am
| You might still be under warrenty. |
Posted By: sporx
Date Posted: 03 July 2005 at 2:57am
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when in doubt...get a new marker if ur having alot of problems. ------------- 
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Posted By: daman 432 c4
Date Posted: 04 July 2005 at 1:58pm
No I dont want to spend more money on paintball than I already am. My buddy has a 98C in way better condition than mine which he never uses anymore courtesy of his new Spyder Electra '05. Ill ask him if I can fiddle around with the two 98s. Ill get back to you guys about what happens, hopefully within the next week. |
Posted By: tigman250
Date Posted: 04 July 2005 at 2:54pm
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good luck pm me with the results i'm curious to find out! ------------- http://img76.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stickemup6of.jpg">
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Posted By: daman 432 c4
Date Posted: 04 July 2005 at 8:26pm
| ok, I was looking through www.tippmannparts.com, and for the 98 rear bolt it said that tippmann redesigned the rear bolt? It says that the "old style", which apparently I have is no longer available. Has anyone else heard about this? Does anyone know what serial number the change occured at? |
Posted By: tigman250
Date Posted: 04 July 2005 at 9:25pm
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i would call them they would be able to tell you ------------- http://img76.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stickemup6of.jpg">
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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 04 July 2005 at 9:29pm
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You will never get through to them, ive left so many messages on the maintinance line, and have never gotten a call back. ------------- 
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Posted By: daman 432 c4
Date Posted: 04 July 2005 at 9:36pm
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Can anyone who just recently bought a 98 or a Custom Pro confirm that new designed rear bolt? look at tippmannparts.com EDIT: I ordered a new rear bolt and sear, they should be here either Friday or Monday. I'll let you guys know what happens. EDIT(AGAIN): I just got back from playing today and everything worked perfect! The problem was that the sear and rear bolt were worn out. |