This is where I work
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Topic: This is where I work
Posted By: Badsmitty
Subject: This is where I work
Date Posted: 30 June 2005 at 7:42pm
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This happened at the prison where I work. When they mention counselors in the story, that's me. http://www.wbns.com/Global/story.asp?S=3539905&nav=LUERbcoa - http://www.wbns.com/Global/story.asp?S=3539905&nav=LUERb coa |
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 30 June 2005 at 7:43pm
| Wow, that's insane... |
Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 30 June 2005 at 7:47pm
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That's terrible. ------------- 
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Posted By: Heres To You
Date Posted: 30 June 2005 at 7:53pm
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Why were they out playing golf and baseball during a thunderstorm
anyway? The thought of holding an alluminum bat, or a steel golf
club doesn't seem to appealing when lightning is around...
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Posted By: pbdude985
Date Posted: 30 June 2005 at 8:01pm
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your right ^^ but that still stinks ------------- 
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Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 30 June 2005 at 8:04pm
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Speaking of which, what exactly was the golf club made of? I'm being stupid, but it said it wasn't metal. -------------
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Posted By: Dom
Date Posted: 30 June 2005 at 8:14pm
It had a graphite shaft most likely, if it wasn't steel. |
stratoaxe wrote:Posted By: garrett5
Date Posted: 30 June 2005 at 9:41pm
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Posted By: lester98c
Date Posted: 30 June 2005 at 9:52pm
ouch
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 30 June 2005 at 10:20pm
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Thats funny. Anyone ever see that video of the spanish team playing in the rain? Then you see lightning strike and everyone grabs their middle and falls over. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors"> 
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Posted By: Monk
Date Posted: 30 June 2005 at 10:34pm
Oh, I saw that. It was awsome...kinda. |
Posted By: Hysteria
Date Posted: 01 July 2005 at 9:57am
Selective reading? It said in the article that when the lightning hit the golfer, the sun was shinning over the course. |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 01 July 2005 at 10:51am
Looks like God has started using his lightning rod wand again.  ------------- 
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Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 01 July 2005 at 11:58am
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What was he in for?
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Posted By: bluemunky42
Date Posted: 01 July 2005 at 12:38pm
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wow that's pretty wild i should think it would suck to be struck by lightning ------------- 
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Posted By: VisionIMP
Date Posted: 01 July 2005 at 1:12pm
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That puts a completely different image of inmates in my mind. ------------- 
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Posted By: Dazed
Date Posted: 01 July 2005 at 1:24pm
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So, honest question, what was the actual reaction by most of the population of the prison to the death and injuries? I mean the mental/emotional reaction, not the immediate, "get help, Josey is hurt" one.
If you can discuss it, that is. |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 01 July 2005 at 1:37pm
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My guess is that the inmates were really phased but the natural disaster deaths. Also my cynical mind thinks that the religious people are there to rub in the fact that God struck down his vengence to the sinner and the other inmates are up next if they dont repent. -------------
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Posted By: MetallicaESPa5
Date Posted: 01 July 2005 at 2:28pm
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Crazy.
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Posted By: BearClaw
Date Posted: 01 July 2005 at 3:11pm
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I think MANY of you are missing the MAIN point this was a prisoner in a
JAIL funded by Your tax dollors. Arent you GLAD that while you
bust your buts working day in day out you are PAYING for these
prisoners to play a good ol game of Basball as well as have MANY of the
other luxuryies many of us can not afford our selfs like veideo games,
tv, many differant typs of sports equipment, schooling an many other
great things. Now dont get me wrong i aint saying jails a great vacation spot but i TRULY belive it SHOULD be a LITTLE less comfy as i KNOW tax dollors could be used on MUTCH more needing areas. After all these people DID do something or other to deserve their punishment why make it more comfy for em. As for the lighting strike thats GOTTA SUCK lol. ------------- AGD 68 Automag Azodin KPII Sheridan PGP2K Tippmann Crossover XVR Tippmann ProCarbine Tippmann SL68-II Tippmann TiPX |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 01 July 2005 at 3:17pm
| You are right, Bearclaw. In fact, we shouldn't even feed those animals. Food is expensive, and many hard-working Americans don't have enough food. So I say no more food for prisoners paid for with tax dollars. |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 01 July 2005 at 5:22pm
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Seriously, Bearclaw, I hope you never end up in jail for a crime you didn't commit!
Have you ever been to prison? How can you comment on life inside? I mean seriously, they are serving a sentence in a cage. They can't see their kids, pets, family, or property...they can't eat what they want, ot really do anything they want at any time...they are basically slaves. You talk about them using our tax money, but what about the work they are doing for 7 cents an hour? Are you gonna complain about that? If anything, they get treated like **edited** and deserve better, and this is coming from a tax payer. |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 01 July 2005 at 5:52pm
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I think its kinda sick how the prisons ive seen are furnished better than some houses ive been in. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: BearClaw
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 12:07am
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The fraction of people in prison sent for crimes they did NOT commit is
probly 1 in a few thousand so maeking a jail more comfy for all just
for the possible one is kinda stupid. As for the labour force well thats great BUT they still are their to be punished so WHY do we need to pay for their ammenities. I dont know bout you but i personally Cant afford a nice gym membership or the latest videogames and soo on. Why the heck should i then pay taxes so some thief murderer or drug dealer can???? And as i said i never said it was great being in prison (my grandfather was a cop so i have some idea) BUT it has gotten WAY to cosy for what its supposed to be. They dont DESERVE ANYTHING once they commit a crim sever enough for prison they loose ALL human rights in my mind. They had a choice and made the wrong one they KNEW the consiquences and decided to ingnore them they now have to pay the price so BLEEEP em let em suffer. Sorry if i sound harsh but when you get a family to support and have worked your Tail end off only to see a good 30% of your paycheck go to taxes THEN youl relize why i get soure at were MY TAX money is distributed. I BUST my ass day in day out to feed my family HONESTLY so SUE me. ------------- AGD 68 Automag Azodin KPII Sheridan PGP2K Tippmann Crossover XVR Tippmann ProCarbine Tippmann SL68-II Tippmann TiPX |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 12:15pm
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Well, I don't have kids or a wife, but I do have a family to support, and do work my ass off as well, and I pay the same taxes you do....we are in the same boat.
Do you know what percentage of your tax money goes to the prisoners and their comforts? I don't, I'm seriously asking you. If you're all bent out of shape about it, you should know just how much those lazy sinners are stealing from you. I have never been to prison, but the guys I know that have been have NEVER EVER mentioned playing video games! I have heard that they were allowed to watch Jerry Springer each day, but that's hardly anything that's coming out of your check. I know your views aren't gonna change, so I'll keep it short. You need to be more open-minded as to what these people go through in prison! Even if they were provided with all the creature comforts we have outside, there still is a whole slew of hazards that make prison the worst place in America. I just personally think the prisoners are degraded and abused enough, and I think you would feel different had you ever had a family member unfortunate enough to wind up there. I'd like to see you come visit your father in jail, speaking to him through the plexiglass divider, and tell him to his face that he doesn't deserve the ham sandwish he got for lunch! That would be funny. You need to remember that you have more in common with people in jail than you realize....you may still end up there one day. |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 12:17pm
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Seriously, we say Saddam is bad and Americans are full of freedom and ideals, but when it comes down to it, fellow americans don't have any respect for anyone but themselves!
We have our own citizens promoting slavery! |
Posted By: Murdock
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 12:20pm
| Its not that bad. You get fed 3 times a day and can sleep all day if you want. |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 12:21pm
| ^Yeah, I would just want to sleep all day when my family outside needs my support |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 12:22pm
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Just for reference, my dog gets fed 3X a day and sleeps as often as he wants, so do my cats....I still would rather live a free, human-type life
Funny how people have no problem caging someone like an animal, so long as they don't have to deal with it. |
Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 12:26pm
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That is very untrue. Some maximum security prisons can't afford three meals a day, so they ration what they have, and they don't make up three full meals. They also are not allowed to sleep all day, many jails and prisons have that as a rule that you are not allowed to do that. |
Posted By: agentwhale007.
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 12:30pm
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Did you know that 89.9% of all statistics are made up on the spot? ------------- Hey, nice marmot!  |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 12:38pm
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Not only can you not sleep all day, eat what you want, or shower when you want, I've heard they get no more weights and what's worse, can't even do pushups or situps! They are forced to stay out of shape, to bring their morale down.
real smart when the whole point is to rehabilitate people for the outside world...make them feel less than human before you release them...real good way to reform someone. For all you who think jail/prison is a cake-walk: Have you ever been stabbed? Jumped? Beat up? Raped? Have you ever even been in a fight? How about sit on the toilet and try to take your morning crap, only to have some big old black dude watching you! I really think most of you have no grasp of how horrible life in jail really is....there's a reason people would rather kill than go back. |
Posted By: Murdock
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 12:42pm
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at the prizon where my bro works you can. its an immigration/naturalization max security prizon ive never been to prizon but ive had my share of jailtime, solitary all but one week of a 9 month sentance, not that bad at all by the way, I know prison dosent have a z in it...just looks better that way I think another thing, i was fed beef stew with tortillas most of the time, good stuff And I slept all day most of the time, other inmated got mad at it and the guards told them to shut up because I wasn't causing problems that way |
Posted By: Smitty
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 12:45pm
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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 12:57pm
| How are the other inmates mad at you if you were in solitary the whole time? |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 1:00pm
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Seriously, are you that pathetic that sleeping all day is a good thing? I don't know about all you guys, but I have hobbies that I would not be able to upkeep if I was in prison.
I'm not the type of person to be content with sitting on my ass all day....I really couldn't respect anyone who would be. |
Posted By: Murdock
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 1:10pm
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When you work graveyard shift you pretty much sleep all the time anyhow, at least I do And the solitary at the place I was at consisted of 2 cells towards the enterance of the block, all the other people were in the same area but allowed to mingle except for the solitary people which meant they could come by and look in your viewing window if they wanted to Concrete beds suck though and if you want to make it you have to learn to be okay with being in a small area, sleeping most of the time makes the days go by faster and you can do pushups or situps when your awake so you get sleepy again the only thing that bugged me were those idiots who tap on the walls, or whistle all the time bout 3 weeks or so before i was released, some guy was put in the cell right next to me and must have been on acid or somthing. he kept screaming HOWARD and kept insisting that he was at howard sterns mansion and that he was being tested before he could meet him then he kept yelling for robin and crap, only time i couldnt get any sleep...he was shipped off to the nut house the next day |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 1:13pm
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So, you make a big deal about being able to sleep all day long, but you yourself complain about the crappy beds.
So, it must not be that much of a picnic. How did it make you feel squatting down on the toilet bowl and being watched? That's gotta be degrading. |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 1:15pm
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From what I've heard, you aren't even allowed to work out in any way....no weights, not even pushups or situps on your own time in your own cell.
I'm sure this varies. All the more reason not to think that just because you've been to jail, you know everything about prison. |
Posted By: Murdock
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 1:18pm
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never said i know everything about prison but more than most people cause of my bro... and about the toilet, id time it so id go right after the guard rounded by my cell and be done by the time he got back round |
Posted By: Murdock
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 1:23pm
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and before anyone accuses my bro of not knowing anything, hes been in the prison system for almost 20 years and now holds the rank of lieutenant, he is the highest ranking lieutenant in the state and does all the recruiting for the federal immigration/naturialzation system for the state pretty sure he holds a homeland security title also |
Posted By: God
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 1:25pm
| Murdock arent you still a minor and what were you in for? I am guessing you were not in a very high security prison. |
Posted By: Murdock
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 1:26pm
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havent been a minor for 4 years on the 19th of this month was in for agg assault, they tried to get me for a hate crime too but that fizzled out....broke a guys arm, shattering the growth plate cause i picked him up and threw him |
Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 1:29pm
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Prison is no weekend retreat, and neither are most jails. How long did you do?
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Posted By: God
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 1:29pm
| Yeah, I am calling shenaigans on your prison stay story... Also you have a brother that is at least 20 years older than you? |
Posted By: Murdock
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 1:31pm
| i agree with that, Dune |
Posted By: Murdock
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 1:35pm
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only did 9 months, and i didnt say it was prison, it was just jail and yes, my bro is lots older than me. our dad is 79 years old and a WW2 vet and technicaly, he is only my half bro and before you talk smack about how old my dad is, i sure hope im gettin some from a 20 yr old when im in my 50s like he did |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 1:39pm
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I guess I just find it unfathomable your disregard for imprisonment, when you yourself went through 9 months of solitary confinement.
Not a commentary on your brother, father, sister, aunt, uncle, or bald-headed granny......just you. Could you give us a run-down of your typical day in solitary confinement? |
Posted By: Murdock
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 1:42pm
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wake up, shower, wait for breakfast, eat, brush your teeth, sleep, wake and wait for lunch perhaps do some pushups, eat, poop, sleep, wake for dinner, eat and perhaps poop again, brush your teeth, sleep, then do it all over again |
Posted By: Monk
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 1:48pm
| Holy crap. Im in solitary confinement. |
Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 2:31pm
| It's very sad that people are angry that our taxes go to prisons and such. A disregard for humanity makes you no better than those actually staying in the facilities. |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 4:03pm
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Dune, i think what people are mad at, is that Jim Bell gets home from his 18 hour day, and eats peanut butter on stale moldy bread while listening the radio. He busts his butt 6 days a week making minimum wage, just to make rent.
But if he were to rob the local quick stop.. He would get cable television, a waitroom, three hot meals a day. Air conditioning, heat during the winter. A free gym to use.. It does seem that, if things are bad off, you can rob a quickie mart and get an improvement in quality of life. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 4:10pm
| You think that's what jail or prison is actually like? It's not, that is mostly a rumor that is sent out. They rarely get to use weights, unless it's for that one hour a day out of a 23 hour lock down. They get two hot meals a day with maybe a third cold meal if they can afford it. They also get to never see freedom again, they get to sleep in cold cells (very little actual heat in the cells) on concrete, in crowded, stank cells. Your "wonderful palace" in which you describe is only given to those that commit quite less heinous crimes. |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 4:13pm
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I know prison is a horible place. But the average person thinks what i posted above.
I used to know a guy named Kenny English, he was homeless, but came around my old work a lot. He was always up for anything and waanted to go to jail. "What have I got to lose, jail means three hots and a cot for me."-Kenny English ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 4:22pm
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So, are we going by what the average 12 year old thinks, or FACTS!!!!??? I would rather base my reality in facts than a 12 year olds thoughts.
DB, you argued this whole time about how prison isn't that bad, and now you come out and say it's a horrible place! Again, I agree with Dune 100%...and trust me, that ain't an everyday thing. |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 4:24pm
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No read what i wrote. I didnt say it was a nice place. I said average people get mad because thats what they think. I know its a bad place for bad people. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 4:28pm
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So what's the best thing about being in prison? The free meals, rent-free living, free cable TV?
I don't know, but whatever it is, I'm willing to bet the fear of being raped, beat up, or killed is not worth the trade-off. When you wake up, you get to do what you want. In privacy. You really don't know how it is, so stop trying to make it out to be a walk in the park. |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 4:31pm
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Im not... I recently had a run in with the posibility of going to jail for a long time because of what some friends did. They involved me, it scared the living daylights out of me, i couldnt hardly eat for a week. I know its a bad place. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Atrosity
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 4:31pm
Remind me to never get you mad, ever.
 Me too, and I have been my whole life so far------------- "Who me? No I'm quite blunt, like a sledghammer to the temple."-Me |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 4:37pm
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DB, I apologize, I am confusing you with that other dude.
All I will say is everyone who is saying prisoners got it easy are too close-minded and self-centered. If you really opened your mind to what these guys go through, you would have a lot more compassion. They are literally living out your worst nightmare, everyday. I think it would be really hard to try and reform myself, when I have to worry about being killed or raped 24/7. I have been in front of a judge facing felony charges I shouldn't have been charged with, so I know even the average guy can get caught up in the legal system unjustly. |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 4:37pm
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My friend Andrew was in Jail for 3 years. We dont talk about it thogh. Sounds like it was pretty awful. The only thing he has told me, is that, in the morning, his toilet always was backed up because of the guy next to him somehow. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 5:19pm
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^Damn, not only did he have to crap publicly on a metal toilet bowl, he had to be ankle-deep in sewage...if that isn't a bad way to live, and a severe-enough punishment, I don't know what is.
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 5:21pm
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Yep. Each morning, he had to flush his toilet. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 7:20pm
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Haha, not to be picky man but when you're in an instution for more than 18 months you go to prison. Jail and prison are two different things and two completely different places. |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 7:22pm
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This was when he was a minor. I know the difference thogh. Here there are two different juvies. Three if you count the boot camp where you have to run everwhere. He was in the nastier of the three. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 7:27pm
| Yeah, those boot camps never work properly, just scare tactics for kids. |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 7:29pm
An old friend of mine, his brother went to one. Sounds a lot like military camp. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 7:30pm
| It is really, but they haven't been proven to work much at all. |
Posted By: BearClaw
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 10:49pm
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What ever i keep saying it but it keeps getting over looked. I
NEVER SAID PRISON WAS A WALK IN THE PARK. What i said IS that i
DONT think our money SHOULD be spent on creture comforts for
PRIONERS. Give them the neseities of life food, water, clothing,
heating (NO AC), and hell even give em some books. Give them
execise the OLD FASHION WAY (WORK) and give em the MOST important
thing..... TIME to relize how crappy things are their and why the heck
they are their in the first place. It was THEIR wrong desishions in life that got em in their and their now their to pay the price. If you seriously think making prison better is gona HELP them reform you seriously have not met too many of these guys. My uncle has been IN and out of prision a few times and i feel absolutly NO remorse for him. This is the same man i grew up knowing as my fathers brother great guy. Somewere down the road he got mixed in with the WRONG crowd and has since been some trouble to the POINT of STEALIONG money from his (now dead) paralized father. ------------- AGD 68 Automag Azodin KPII Sheridan PGP2K Tippmann Crossover XVR Tippmann ProCarbine Tippmann SL68-II Tippmann TiPX |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 10:55pm
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The reason prisoners get some of those comforts is in hope of rehabilitation. We give them libraries, and classes, so they can get their GED or go to school while in prison. They do have job in prison, they can get assigned to different jobs in prison to learn a trade so they have something to fall back on in the world. The only problem is that ex convicts have a stigma that prevents them from getting hired.
Some official in texas tried your theory. He kept the prisoners outside in the heat, sevral of them died of heat sickness and dehydration. I read about it on this forum i think. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 10:57pm
| A lot of people aren't allowed to get their GED's anymore. They don't have it easy with AC like you say. Maybe a few prisons, but not the majority. |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 11:04pm
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They arent alowed to get their GEDs anymore? Why not, not enough people taking advantage of it? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 11:05pm
| A lot of it has to do with cost. Some places still do, but I know many jails around here can't afford it. |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 11:07pm
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Thats what i figured. Prisons do it dont they? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 11:08pm
| I know a couple that had to put a stop to it, the same ones that do not have the AC like others complain. I still think for the most part prison systems still try to offer it though. |