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Topic: Kid found
Posted By: Predatorr
Subject: Kid found
Date Posted: 06 July 2005 at 4:59pm

http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/ns/news/story.jsp?idq=/ff/story/0001%2F20050706%2F1348839194.htm&photoid=20050705CARF104&ewp=ewp_news_0505missing_toddler - http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/ns/news/story.jsp?idq=/ff/story/ 0001%2F20050706%2F1348839194.htm&photoid=20050705CARF104 &ewp=ewp_news_0505missing_toddler

im not talking about like the story cause its kinda old but the people who do this are really wierd. I think that rotting in jaill isnt good enough for them.  Discuss




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Posted By: themovielife
Date Posted: 06 July 2005 at 5:00pm
I heard about him.
He is going to go down in the court room.


Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 06 July 2005 at 5:03pm
Send him to jail for as long as possible. In jail, for child molesters and child murderers await a fate that i would liken worse than any hell i could think of. Its good the girl was found.

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Posted By: xteam
Date Posted: 06 July 2005 at 5:08pm
wow, sick stuff

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Posted By: bluemunky42
Date Posted: 06 July 2005 at 5:17pm
that is sick and revolting. that guy is a creep.

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Posted By: redneckdeerhunt
Date Posted: 06 July 2005 at 5:46pm
i rember that i dont feel like reading it tho

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Posted By: Hysteria
Date Posted: 06 July 2005 at 5:55pm
Send him to prison.  As I think DBib was trying to say... the inmates don't appreciate child molestors.  They would have some good ole fashioned fun with him - prison style.


Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 06 July 2005 at 6:02pm
"Inmate is an insult, convict is the term solitutes perfer"-Earl, Animal Factory:Handball scene #1

Men that kill and rape children, are raped and beaten in prison. Repeatedly.

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Posted By: Predatorr
Date Posted: 06 July 2005 at 7:32pm
i think every person in that state should be allowed to kick him in the nuts and punch him in the nose...


Posted By: No Quarter
Date Posted: 06 July 2005 at 9:24pm
"Duncan had spent more than a decade in prison for sexually
assaulting a 14-year-old boy at gunpoint in Tacoma, Wash.,
and was a fugitive at the time of his arrest after he was charged
with molesting a 6-year-old boy in Minnesota.

He was released on $15,000 bail earlier this year after being
charged with molesting the boy. Police in Fargo, N.D."

As an Idahoan and a father I am livid over this! How many kids
have to be killed by these repeat offenders before we as
americans pull our heads out of our #@$%^, and start throwing
away the key on these sickos?!?!? This freak raped a 14 yr old
at gunpoint! He never EVER should have seen the light of day
again after that! NEVER!

Everytime this happens it turns out to be a repeat offender.
They should have their manhood removed with a pair of dull
sheep shears, before being let back into society, and that's only
after they have baby raper branned to their foreheads.

Sorry about spelling errors....I'm PO'd


Posted By: Predatorr
Date Posted: 06 July 2005 at 9:40pm

Originally posted by No QuarterEverytime this happens it turns out to be a repeat offender. <BR>They should have their manhood removed with a pair of dull <BR>sheep shears, before being let back into society, and that's only <BR>after they have baby raper branned to their foreheads. <BR><BR>[/QUOTE No QuarterEverytime this happens it turns out to be a repeat offender.
They should have their manhood removed with a pair of dull
sheep shears, before being let back into society, and that's only
after they have baby raper branned to their foreheads.

[/QUOTE wrote:


 couldnt have said it better myself

 couldnt have said it better myself



Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 06 July 2005 at 9:42pm
Mandatory long term chemicle castration. It would work for the sex crimes.

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Posted By: Dye Playa
Date Posted: 06 July 2005 at 11:27pm
yea i agree. their man hood should be removed and they should be branded. i think jail is too easy, and so is the death penalty. they should slowly cut away an inch of them every few hours, sew it back up and repeat the process. and after everyday's worth of cutting, make them swim in a mixture of lemon juice and salt. thats my opinion

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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 06 July 2005 at 11:31pm
Ummm, I think there is something in the constitution that says something about cruel and unusual punishments...

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Posted By: SuperXero
Date Posted: 06 July 2005 at 11:33pm
Originally posted by Hades Hades wrote:

Ummm, I think there is something in the constitution that says something about cruel and unusual punishments...


I think there's also something in one of those documents about raping children and bludgeoning their family members to death.

I could be wrong though.

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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 06 July 2005 at 11:33pm
They have been doing chemicle castration for a while now.

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Posted By: SuperXero
Date Posted: 06 July 2005 at 11:36pm
Originally posted by Dye Playa Dye Playa wrote:

yea i agree. their man hood should be removed and they should be branded. i think jail is too easy, and so is the death penalty. they should slowly cut away an inch of them every few hours, sew it back up and repeat the process. and after everyday's worth of cutting, make them swim in a mixture of lemon juice and salt. thats my opinion


Sorta like Prometheus... He was tied to a rock and everyday a vulture would come and eat his liver, and every night it would grow back.

Zeus kicks ass in the whole "justice" department.

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Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 06 July 2005 at 11:37pm

Originally posted by Dye Playa Dye Playa wrote:

yea i agree. their man hood should be removed and they should be branded. i think jail is too easy, and so is the death penalty. they should slowly cut away an inch of them every few hours, sew it back up and repeat the process. and after everyday's worth of cutting, make them swim in a mixture of lemon juice and salt. thats my opinion

Better idea-ever see that type of castrator that's a big piece of rubber with a tiny hole in the middle? You stretch it out, until the hole...well you get the picture. Then, it turns black and rots off. Then, put them in the cell with Jimbob and a broomstick with nails from top to bottom.

 

At that point, life in prison would suit this man fine.



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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 06 July 2005 at 11:45pm
Just because 4 states chemically castrate, one state has it as optional, doesnt mean the it work to stop the offenders from committing the crime again. I think it is inhumane, personally.

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Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 06 July 2005 at 11:50pm

I'm not being a jerk, Hades, so don't take this the wrong way, but wanking little kids and beating their families to death is a little on the inhumane side as well. There are way too many kids getting molested out there. Maybe a better punishment would be to put the little kids' dads in a solitary cell with the molestor for a few days...assuming he wasn't killed by the sick freak.



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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 06 July 2005 at 11:54pm
I dont care if your a jerk

So your of the eye for an eye philosophy?

Rape isnt a sex crime, it is a crime of violence, so shouldnt the hands be cut off and not the testicals?

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Posted By: SuperXero
Date Posted: 06 July 2005 at 11:57pm
Originally posted by Hades Hades wrote:

I dont care if your a jerk

So your of the eye for an eye philosophy?

Rape isnt a sex crime, it is a crime of violence, so shouldnt the hands be cut off and not the testicals?


Why not both?



Actually in a situation like this, it should be an eye for 2 eyes.

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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 06 July 2005 at 11:58pm
That is why your not in charge of handing out the punishments....

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Posted By: Hella Cool
Date Posted: 06 July 2005 at 11:59pm
The girl is at the hospital 5 minutes from my house. 


Posted By: No Quarter
Date Posted: 07 July 2005 at 12:07am
OK, OK, I was being flippant about castrating sex offenders, but
I meant it when I said a baby raper should never see the light of
day again.

here is some food for thought. Someone does their time in
prison after raping a kid, and gets out and enters society. So,
as a society through the legal system we are saying, " you've
paid your debt,,,come on out." But, on the other hand we
require them to register as a sex offender. So which is it?!?!
Are they safe to re-enter society or not? By requiring them to
register as a sex offender we are in effect saying, " you are a
danger to us." Well, if that is the case, then why let them out of
prison to begin with?


Posted By: SuperXero
Date Posted: 07 July 2005 at 12:08am
Originally posted by No Quarter No Quarter wrote:

OK, OK, I was being flippant about castrating sex offenders, but
I meant it when I said a baby raper should never see the light of
day again.

here is some food for thought. Someone does their time in
prison after raping a kid, and gets out and enters society. So,
as a society through the legal system we are saying, " you've
paid your debt,,,come on out." But, on the other hand we
require them to register as a sex offender. So which is it?!?!
Are they safe to re-enter society or not? By requiring them to
register as a sex offender we are in effect saying, " you are a
danger to us." Well, if that is the case, then why let them out of
prison to begin with?


Good idea, lets ship them to an island for molesters and rapists. It can be a new Australia!

And Hades... We'll see about that.

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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 07 July 2005 at 12:17am
I personally think that the focus of the criminal justice needs to change from punishment to rehabilitation...

Just because a Chriminal is out of jail that isnt to say his punishment is over. Probation continues in most cases and the registration as a sex offender is part of the terms of punishment.

I am not in any way simpathetic to sex offenders especially against minors but their missbehavior does not give everyone a free shot to do whatever they want to do to the offender.

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Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 07 July 2005 at 12:32am

Originally posted by Hades Hades wrote:

I dont care if your a jerk

So your of the eye for an eye philosophy?

Rape isnt a sex crime, it is a crime of violence, so shouldnt the hands be cut off and not the testicals?

Actually, I wasn't being totally serious....totally. But when we're talking a small child, it makes things far more sick and disgusting. And there's no amount of revenge that will cure what one person has done to this child. He'll more than likely die...fifteen or twenty years from now. In the meantime, this little girl might resort to drugs and alcohol to get over what he's done to her. I hope she doesn't, but needless to say many lives were either affected, ruined, or ended in this one freakshow's lifetime. So honestly de-balling this sick man won't really do anything but give me a warm fuzzy feeling of justice. It won't bring a family back or give this girl her innocence back.



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Posted By: No Quarter
Date Posted: 07 July 2005 at 12:29pm

I agree somewhat with rehab, but there are crimes that are pure
evil, and I think rehab is out of the question. Sure if someone is
in prison for armed robbery, and it turns out they were merely
trying to get money to support thier crack addiction then yeah,
let's help the guy out. But, certain heinous crimes against
humanity of the most depraved nature....I don't think you can
take the risk of stamping that person as OK ever again.
Because what are we risking? Lately all over the news you've
seen the casulties of letting sickos out of prison. Little children.
I say sorry to the molester, maybe you are better, maybe you
found Jesus, but we as a society cannot take that risk with you.


Posted By: Predatorr
Date Posted: 07 July 2005 at 4:02pm
all sex offendors should have the hands cut off so they cant touch anyone or themselves, and have the wee wee cut off so that they cant pleasure themselves or others, and they should be blinded so they cant look at others.  Thats how id do it.  Or the rest of the kids family should be allowed to hunt him like the dog he really is.


Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 07 July 2005 at 4:19pm
They need pyschiatrists if anything.

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Posted By: Bango
Date Posted: 07 July 2005 at 7:21pm
My dog has this little micro-chip inside of her so if she ever gets stolen, we can find out where she is. If they can put them in dogs, they should be able to put them in sex-offenders. Then, they could have counter-microchips placed in public places like schools or amusement parks and whenever a microchip-equiped sex-offender goes near it, the public place could be alerted or whatever.

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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 07 July 2005 at 7:57pm
Originally posted by stratoaxe stratoaxe wrote:

Actually, I wasn't being totally serious....totally. But when we're talking a small child, it makes things far more sick and disgusting. And there's no amount of revenge that will cure what one person has done to this child. He'll more than likely die...fifteen or twenty years from now. In the meantime, this little girl might resort to drugs and alcohol to get over what he's done to her. I hope she doesn't, but needless to say many lives were either affected, ruined, or ended in this one freakshow's lifetime. So honestly de-balling this sick man won't really do anything but give me a warm fuzzy feeling of justice. It won't bring a family back or give this girl her innocence back.


Good job on the dramatic conclustion that exists only in your head...

Exactly nothing you do to the offender will correct the past offense therefore revenge does nothing.

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Posted By: Klaus
Date Posted: 07 July 2005 at 8:10pm

I'd like to chemically castrate this sicko...I happen to own a device capable of such

An injection of aproximately an ounce of element 82 on the periodic table would quickly render his genitlia permanently inefective

 

 



Posted By: Predatorr
Date Posted: 07 July 2005 at 9:03pm

Originally posted by Bango Bango wrote:

My dog has this little micro-chip inside of her so if she ever gets stolen, we can find out where she is. If they can put them in dogs, they should be able to put them in sex-offenders. Then, they could have counter-microchips placed in public places like schools or amusement parks and whenever a microchip-equiped sex-offender goes near it, the public place could be alerted or whatever.

tahts exactly what i was thinking about, then we should put a tamper device with arsenic in it so that if he tries to pull it out, sayonara (sp)



Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 07 July 2005 at 10:41pm

Originally posted by Hades Hades wrote:

Originally posted by stratoaxe stratoaxe wrote:

Actually, I wasn't being totally serious....totally. But when we're talking a small child, it makes things far more sick and disgusting. And there's no amount of revenge that will cure what one person has done to this child. He'll more than likely die...fifteen or twenty years from now. In the meantime, this little girl might resort to drugs and alcohol to get over what he's done to her. I hope she doesn't, but needless to say many lives were either affected, ruined, or ended in this one freakshow's lifetime. So honestly de-balling this sick man won't really do anything but give me a warm fuzzy feeling of justice. It won't bring a family back or give this girl her innocence back.


Good job on the dramatic conclustion that exists only in your head...

Exactly nothing you do to the offender will correct the past offense therefore revenge does nothing.

I have no idea what you're talking about when you say "dramatic conclustion that exists in my head". I was saying that I was simply expressing my disgust towards sex offenders in general, and that all the torture on earth wouldn't reverse what he had done. So you just agreed with me in an attempt to argue. Nice.



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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 07 July 2005 at 10:59pm
Your "dramatic conclustion that exists in in your head".

In the meantime, this little girl might resort to drugs and alcohol to get over what he's done to her. I hope she doesn't, but needless to say many lives were either affected, ruined, or ended in this one freakshow's lifetime.

Even on the Lifetime channel the victim's stories arent this lame.... and only a few victims become porn stars.

More women than you think have been raped/sexually molested /harassed. And most havent turned to drugs and alcohol abuse. The few you imagined or might actually know dont make up the masses that recover and move on with life and lead a happy life.

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Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 07 July 2005 at 11:06pm

I was making the point that her life and mental state are probably near ruined-and I believe I said this might happen, but hopefully wouldn't happened. I was using that as an illustration to my point- there's nothing that can be done to take away what this man has done. And I know alot of people that were molested and turned out normal-to an extent. But you show how narrow your view really is-the effects that cause alcohol and drug abuse are still there, whether that person resorts to those things or not.

The people I know that have been sexually abused for the most part show no outward signs of any trauma-but it's the secret phone calls, and the private times where it shows. If you think that drama only exists on the Lifetime Channel, you need to grow up. There are grown men that are iron workers, or whatever that probably have times where they stay up at night with nightmares of what happened to them as a child. So they might move on, but they rarely fully recover, and often times the happy life they live is an outward covering for pain they hide on the inside.  



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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 07 July 2005 at 11:23pm
Originally posted by stratoaxe stratoaxe wrote:

I was making the point that her life and mental state are probably near ruined-and I believe I said this might happen, but hopefully wouldn't happened.

Other than your guessing what do you have that backs up your statement? Your opinion doesnt translate to fact just because you think it is possible. Just because my house might be swallowed by an earthquake doesnt mean it will.

If she has trouble coping she/the victim should see a therapist or talk to a social worker, not resort to drugs and alcohol abuse. That is her fault if she chooses to abuse substances.

Originally posted by stratoaxe stratoaxe wrote:


I was using that as an illustration to my point- there's nothing that can be done to take away what this man has done.
No one is saying that there is something that will change the past or make it better. What can be done to prevent further victims is what we are discussing. Making a rapist/ sexual preditor sterile, impotent, or castrated doesnt provide a real solution, just revenge. There is no point to having a just court system if the goal is just inflict revenge on the offenders. That clearly doesnt work.

Originally posted by stratoaxe stratoaxe wrote:


And I know alot of people that were molested and turned out normal-to an extent. But you show how narrow your view really is-the effects that cause alcohol and drug abuse are still there, whether that person resorts to those things or not.
Yes beacuse all the drug and alcohol abusers are sexual victims. They have coping disabilities therefore the chemical dependancies, not the offenders initial crime.
Originally posted by stratoaxe stratoaxe wrote:


The people I know that have been sexually abused for the most part show no outward signs of any trauma-but it's the secret phone calls, and the private times where it shows. If you think that drama only exists on the Lifetime Channel, you need to grow up. There are grown men that are iron workers, or whatever that probably have times where they stay up at night with nightmares of what happened to them as a child. So they might move on, but they rarely fully recover, and often times the happy life they live is an outward covering for pain they hide on the inside.

Again, coping issues that can be fixed with therapy....

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Posted By: hegman
Date Posted: 07 July 2005 at 11:25pm

i think there shouldnt be any bale for people that do really bad things like him because as some1 said b4 he was released with 15,000$.  then he went an did it again.  in most child rape cases they dont just get cought once an then stop. If they get out it happens agian.

even on other things like murder or somthing like that there shouldnt be a bale.  there should be a bale for small things that arent that bad like MAYBE robing like a store an not hurting some1 or anything like that.



Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 07 July 2005 at 11:41pm

Originally posted by Hades Hades wrote:

 

Other than your guessing what do you have that backs up your statement? Your opinion doesnt translate to fact just because you think it is possible. Just because my house might be swallowed by an earthquake doesnt mean it will.

Um, she was raped-? Unless she's mentally deficient, I'm sure she was somehow bothered by this. If not now, at some point "My family was wiped out and I watched my brother raped, at which point I was raped" will probably pop into her mind. I would want to hope that if you were dragged out, watched your family murdered, then was forced into a sexual act with another human being that you might remember that now and then.

That's all still aside from the point-you can't erase scars, and you won't bring this family back. I'm sure that at some point she'll have counseling, and more than likely she'll go to school and live a normal life. But that doesn't take back what this man did-after all, the act is over, now it's time to look at the perpetrator. Whatever you're arguing, he still needs to pay some price. Obviously it's not legal to torture him, but I feel that chemical castration is perfectly humane in light of what he has done.

As far as your eye for an eye comment, that's what justice is. The punishment is supposed to suit the crime. It's equality in justice.

 



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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 07 July 2005 at 11:48pm
Originally posted by stratoaxe stratoaxe wrote:

Whatever you're arguing, he still needs to pay some price. Obviously it's not legal to torture him, but I feel that chemical castration is perfectly humane in light of what he has done.


As far as your eye for an eye comment, that's what justice is. The punishment is supposed to suit the crime. It's equality in justice.



Who says the offender needs to "pay a price?" and an eye for an eye is not "justice" it is revenge.

If your of the Christian faith isnt that God's job to dish out the punishemnt? If your not of that faith ignore the question it is otherwise irrelivant.



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Posted By: lester98c
Date Posted: 07 July 2005 at 11:56pm
he deserves the death penalty


Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 08 July 2005 at 12:13am
Originally posted by Hades Hades wrote:

Originally posted by stratoaxe stratoaxe wrote:

Whatever you're arguing, he still needs to pay some price. Obviously it's not legal to torture him, but I feel that chemical castration is perfectly humane in light of what he has done.


As far as your eye for an eye comment, that's what justice is. The punishment is supposed to suit the crime. It's equality in justice.



Who says the offender needs to "pay a price?" and an eye for an eye is not "justice" it is revenge.

If your of the Christian faith isnt that God's job to dish out the punishemnt? If your not of that faith ignore the question it is otherwise irrelivant.

You're trying to keep me up all night, aren't you Hades ?

Well for starters-I'm taking that question as sarcasm, I am however going to give you a response-

The Bible clearly says that power is given to governing bodies. So your question is irrelevent. 

And an eye for an eye is what our justice system is based on-that's why we have varying degrees of punishment. So I don't guess I get what you're saying. Justice is half rehabilitation, and half revenge. You spank a child to teach them not to do bad things that hurt them, but also to give a sense of consequences. So there have to be consequences to drug use, not just rehabilitation. So either I've missed your point, or you have very strange philosophies regarding law in general.



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