barrel of choice?
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Topic: barrel of choice?
Posted By: SPARTAN 013
Subject: barrel of choice?
Date Posted: 07 July 2005 at 4:46am
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im new to the sport of woodsball and am considering playing the position of abush sniper/ghost flanker. my question is about the flatline barrel system with the A5. ive read that the flatline barrel uses a textured surface inside of the barrel to help creat backspin. since every ball is slightly different how much effect does the have on long range shot (30 yrds +)? ive read that shot are less accurate then with a standard barrel. my question is HOW inconsitant is the accuracy? is it noticably different? is a regular or carbon fiber barrel a more consistant barrel for a player with the "one shot, one kill" mindset? ------------- no brains, no headache... |
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Posted By: ^Pirate^
Date Posted: 07 July 2005 at 6:53am
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If the correct paint is
used, small bore, the accuaracy is great, It adds 200+ feet, and, a
little semi-off topic piece of advice, don't say sniper around here,
people HATE it. EDIT: Spelling. ------------- 
It aint about black or white becuz we human I hope we see the light before it's ruined My ghetto gospel |
Posted By: Pro-litey
Date Posted: 07 July 2005 at 7:55am
hey im a sniper  ------------- -Pro-Lite pen spring on trig & sear -98C Polished Internals DOP 8 Stage X-Core X-Chamber Rocket CockII trig spring mod stretched sear spring -both holes in feed neck shortend drive spring |
Posted By: SPARTAN 013
Date Posted: 07 July 2005 at 8:06am
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sniping isnt just long range precision shots. theres many other skills that a sniper has.... dont feel like going into that because its off topic the feild i play at makes us use feild paint... i remember that they have two kinds but i dont remember exacly what type, ill fill that in after i find out. oce i find out ill ask if its a reliable paint or not ------------- no brains, no headache... |
Posted By: redneckdeerhunt
Date Posted: 07 July 2005 at 9:24am
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yeah just use small bore paint ------------- i love to hunt and lite things on fire 98 custom smartparts progressive double trigger lapco bishot pen spring mod 20 oz rocket cock dye invision mask |
Posted By: Nickodemus
Date Posted: 07 July 2005 at 9:29am
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The Flatline is not going to perform how you expect it to. No texture, it has a smooth bore like other barrels, however it is curved up like a banana then it levels off. This creates backspin on the ball, like a curveball in baseball. As the geletin shell rotates, it creates lift. The problem is that if your flatline is installed improperly, the lift is not directed up, but to the side. Also, it the barrel gets dirty, your spin will not be consistent and the ball will curve off target. The paint must be small bore, and is usually more expensive. The Flatline has no porting, and is therfore loud. The barrel is 14" long and has a large shroud - so it makes a big target for other players. It is a tool for a specific job, but most of the time in paintball games it's advantages are not worth it's complications. For instance, if you play in the woods and only see each other at <100', then you have no use for it. If you play in a open cow pasture with no cover and the players stretching themselves out to the maximum range of their markers while laying on the ground, then you will have an advantage. The flatline had some advantage besides the added range. For instance, if you shoot through foilage, you do not need to arc up as much, because the flatter trajectory. Also, if you tilt your marker to the side, you can throw curve balls to get at people behind cover (if they are the proper distance from you). These advantages only occur under certain circumstances, that games don't often provide. I suggest you go play more, and see how close your firefights are and get a barrel for that. Only get the Flatline if it will work well for the field you play. The Flatline is both expensive to buy, feed, and maintain (in your time). A $50 12" conventional aftermarket barrel will serve you well in far more situations. All to often I have seen flatline "snipers" give away their position by fireing before I saw them, and because they are so far away they never hit. Once you get closer to them, whats the advatage of the flatline? Ambush Sniper/Ghost Flanker - do you mean you want to split off solo? Then you need firepower. I suggest spending the Flatline cash on a response trigger, X-chamber and decent conventional barrel. If you want your marker more accurate, get your pressure and velocity under tighter control, and get a good paint to barrel match. huh enough to get you started, I have to get back to work. ------------- Think and give them all you have from the beginning, and never weaken! |
Posted By: Mr. Heckler
Date Posted: 07 July 2005 at 10:14am
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Nick, have you ever actually seen a Flatline barrel? You say it has no texture, no porting. Either you are trying to be stupid (and doing a good job of it) or you have never seen a Flatty. It has a textured white surface inside the barrel and 12 porting holes. Also, by Ambush Sniper/Ghost Flanker he does mean going off solo, at certain times An Ambush Sniper or Ghost Flanker do not need more firepower, if anything they pack less firepower than anyone else so they can move quietly and hide easier. ------------- The Tippmann Forums.....My Anti-Drug. -98Custom -Flatline -6-Position Collapsible Stock -32 Degrees Remote Hose -Crossman Red Dot |
Posted By: Betterdays
Date Posted: 07 July 2005 at 10:14am
A-5 Nick not C98. This is what happens when you post before having your morning coffee. I like the Flatline for the A-5. It's been a solid performer for me for over 2 years. It has decent accuracy at comparable ranges with other after market barrels (not the best or the worst) and the extended range has some limited advantages. |
Nickodemus wrote:Posted By: Nickodemus
Date Posted: 07 July 2005 at 10:31am
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Yep my impression comes from my old 98 (not C) with Flatline. Call me biased. I got the Flatline when they first came out, so I'm sure they worked out some bugs for the A-5. Close up I had to aim at players feet, and far away my balls would veer around them. Tuning the velocity helped a little, but I was happy to sell the whole rig when I got my A-5. ------------- Think and give them all you have from the beginning, and never weaken! |
Posted By: Nickodemus
Date Posted: 07 July 2005 at 10:34am
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Not on my Flatty. Firepower is hits per minute, not how much ammo you carry onto the field. The whole point in an ambush is to be positioned so as to overwhelm them with fire. Your correct in that he doesn't need a lot of paint, since his firefights will be short, but he does need to be able to lay a lot out in a short amount of time. ------------- Think and give them all you have from the beginning, and never weaken! |
Posted By: peachey
Date Posted: 07 July 2005 at 10:58am
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wen i was a noob to the sport i called my self a sniper but when u play more and more games u no that u ave to move up and not jst sit at the bak tryin to snipe people out ! ------------- MY SETUP finaaly i have the smart parts ion smart parts ion Halo b with rip drive 49ci 3000psi dye sticky grips |
Posted By: Nickodemus
Date Posted: 07 July 2005 at 11:15am
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Yeah peachey I understand if off the break they stay to the back, but what gets me is when the ref calls the last couple minutes of the game and the new players still huge the rear cover... What have they got to lose? ------------- Think and give them all you have from the beginning, and never weaken! |
Posted By: SPARTAN 013
Date Posted: 07 July 2005 at 3:17pm
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what does small bore mean? ive seen it a lot so i figure that i want to understand it better... ------------- no brains, no headache... |
Posted By: rossy11223
Date Posted: 07 July 2005 at 3:36pm
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It is the size of the paintball or bore size. Here are two very good websites that will help you match your paint bore size to a barrel. http://www.ottersccustoms.com/barrelc.html - http://www.ottersccustoms.com/barrelc.html http://www.ottersccustoms.com/paintc.html - http://www.ottersccustoms.com/paintc.html |
Posted By: lester98c
Date Posted: 07 July 2005 at 3:49pm
| after reading that im guesing you came here from special ops. the flatline is ok id take a boomstick over it any day but they can shoot pretty far |
Posted By: Smitty
Date Posted: 07 July 2005 at 8:51pm
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Posted By: SPARTAN 013
Date Posted: 07 July 2005 at 9:20pm
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i plan on playing up in front for a long time until me and my friends work up some team chemistry... plus money doesnt grow on trees, lol. what about carbon fiber barrels? ive read that they are super light (this im sure of, my hockey sticks are made of carbon fiber and graphite) and are really quiet. would they be a better choice or is flatline the way to go? (still cant find out what paint the feild i will be playing at uses, will get on that) oh, and one more question... why are a lot of people in this forum so anti spec ops? whats the deal? i dont mean to step on anybodys toes, but im still curious.... ------------- no brains, no headache... |
Posted By: Smitty
Date Posted: 07 July 2005 at 9:53pm
| I'd just go with a 12" Lapco Bigshot or 12" J+J Ceramic. |
Posted By: stick&movex01
Date Posted: 07 July 2005 at 11:45pm
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Walt change your logo that its mine lol !!! ------------- One shot one kill...But if it takes more thats ok.. |
Posted By: benttwig33
Date Posted: 08 July 2005 at 12:07am
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sniping does not apply in paintball.
No matter what anyone says it just wont happen. IF anything, dont get a flalinte...you think its a greta thing and when you get it, it goes to crap....way to much hassle for a barrel. I recommend a lapco bigshot, its very accurate and cheap and take alot of paint sizes. ------------- Sig is WAY too big. |
Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 08 July 2005 at 1:53am
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Werks barrel.
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Posted By: Dye Playa
Date Posted: 08 July 2005 at 1:54am
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i like the ultralite.. SUPER qiet, dead accurate, and well, ultralight. u dont get the distance but its easy to maintain- just squeegee and ur good- bore size helps but dosnt effect it too much ------------- 
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Posted By: black04
Date Posted: 09 July 2005 at 1:08am
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Tred lightly on the word "sniper" when it comes to paintball. we don't want another flame fight about that issue again ------------- my setup: Ion CP trigger SP Q-lock feedneck Check-it unimount 2 14" AA barrel |
Posted By: Knight of Fire
Date Posted: 09 July 2005 at 1:20am
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Nah its a different Version of a sniper. Ambush sniper is often used to cover the weak side when Strong side attacks are used. Their objective is to try and get at least mid field if possible, Then when any enmey Attack force shows up and starts to pass by, he Either spooks them or trys to get one guy out then Retreat, basically scaring the opposition and forces them to waste time and ammo while they search for him. His main role is to cause the opposing team as much havoc as possible so that they waste time getting to his teams Flag station/base and gives his team more time to secure the enemy flag.
A ghost flanker is slightly different, cvuz while doing this he is often with a Small attack force but stays some distance away from them and moves through cover. he uses this to his advantage so that he can get a different angle on enemy players that engage the rest of his Squad or team and engage them from behind or to the side where the enemy players have little to no cover most of the time. My suggestions for barrels are SP progressive, Lapco big shot, J&J Ceramics if you want something for 50 bucks. Stiffi carbon fiber barrels for 100 dollers. but thats my suggestion, ------------- Team Wardog -team captain |
Posted By: SPARTAN 013
Date Posted: 09 July 2005 at 2:44am
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ive been looking at the stiffi barrel. i know carbon fiber is really strong and light (my hockey sticks are made of carbon fiber and graphite) ive also herd that they are really quiet, is this true? im kinda scared to bend a barrel that costs 100 dollars, how easy do barrel bend under mild abuse? (sorry, still havnt found out what kind of paint my home feild uses. will have that soon though) ------------- no brains, no headache... |
Posted By: ^Pirate^
Date Posted: 09 July 2005 at 6:26am
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I think, that if it were a hockey stick it would have an extremely high stiffness rating.
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It aint about black or white becuz we human I hope we see the light before it's ruined My ghetto gospel |
Posted By: SPARTAN 013
Date Posted: 09 July 2005 at 5:25pm
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actually no, hockey sticks are ment to flex... that is what lets players shoot over 80 miles an hour. i think ill go with a stiffi down the round but for now i just want to play. thanks everyone, its been a great help. ------------- no brains, no headache... |
Posted By: Knight of Fire
Date Posted: 09 July 2005 at 5:32pm
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Yea Spartan is right with Hockey sticks, Im on my Highschools hockey team, But From what I heard Sparton the Stiffi shouldn't bend, But yes it is supposedly quiet. ------------- Team Wardog -team captain |
Posted By: black04
Date Posted: 09 July 2005 at 10:37pm
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well thank you for explaining that to me. but i still say when you use the word "sniper" please be specific. because you have some people here that have their souls sold to speedball and think different when you say "sniper". so be specific. ------------- my setup: Ion CP trigger SP Q-lock feedneck Check-it unimount 2 14" AA barrel |
Posted By: ThunderPants
Date Posted: 09 July 2005 at 10:58pm
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yeah you dont really shoot people from long distances. but you can use the stealth skills of a sniper, hiding from a concealed location and ambushing, then relocating to a concealed position then repeat, i would suggest an autococker pro-stock, possibly a q-loader, quite, accurate and fast, the perfect paintball "stealth" gun. ------------- teamtriggerhappy.com eatonpaint.com wevopaintball.com |
Posted By: black04
Date Posted: 09 July 2005 at 11:09pm
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so when yall are talking about "sniper" yall just mean he uses the stealth skills of a sniper right? ------------- my setup: Ion CP trigger SP Q-lock feedneck Check-it unimount 2 14" AA barrel |
Posted By: ThunderPants
Date Posted: 09 July 2005 at 11:23pm
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basically. but you can get some range AND accuracy from a stock class marker, but you cant exactly spray with those. ------------- teamtriggerhappy.com eatonpaint.com wevopaintball.com |
Posted By: black04
Date Posted: 09 July 2005 at 11:31pm
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ah! ------------- my setup: Ion CP trigger SP Q-lock feedneck Check-it unimount 2 14" AA barrel |
Posted By: ThunderPants
Date Posted: 09 July 2005 at 11:33pm
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but an auto-cocker would be way better, get an action ghillie, and just wait..... then.. RUN!!!!!!! then wait......... then.. RUN!!!!!!! repeat as neccesary ------------- teamtriggerhappy.com eatonpaint.com wevopaintball.com |
Posted By: SPARTAN 013
Date Posted: 10 July 2005 at 1:54am
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koo night of fire, where do you play hockey at? im in Va and i play at the A to AAA U16 level. (just curious) as thunder pants said, a "sniper" has a whole different meaning for paint ball. it usually people who like to hide and conserve paint... ------------- no brains, no headache... |
Posted By: ThunderPants
Date Posted: 10 July 2005 at 3:36pm
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yes, they are easily confused with the wimpy kids ------------- teamtriggerhappy.com eatonpaint.com wevopaintball.com |
Posted By: SPARTAN 013
Date Posted: 10 July 2005 at 4:02pm
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lol, not always thunder pants ------------- no brains, no headache... |
Posted By: ThunderPants
Date Posted: 10 July 2005 at 4:19pm
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i mean from far away, if you see a kid in the back, and you cant see his awesome sniper gun, what do you think? the first thing in my mind is " i love bagels, then i think man what a wimpy kid!" ------------- teamtriggerhappy.com eatonpaint.com wevopaintball.com |
Posted By: SPARTAN 013
Date Posted: 10 July 2005 at 11:15pm
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lol, salted or regular bagels? its just seems like an off topic thing to think about while playing paintball... paintball "snipers" always try to keep themselves concealed (at least the good ones) if a kid is just long balling then a) hes a pansy or b) hes alergic to adrenahline.... you make the call ------------- no brains, no headache... |