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Topic: Cyclone ends @ 15?
Posted By: VTpaintballer
Subject: Cyclone ends @ 15?
Date Posted: 12 July 2005 at 4:26pm

Ok, i've been wondering this for a long time.. how fast can the cyclone actually go, does it end at 15 bps, and if so can i modify it to make it go faster.




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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 12 July 2005 at 4:29pm
I've hard that after you get much higher than 15, the balls will bounce off the rapidly spinning "blades" and will start chopping.


Posted By: VTpaintballer
Date Posted: 12 July 2005 at 4:30pm
ok,  and how can i make it go faster? 


Posted By: ^Pirate^
Date Posted: 12 July 2005 at 4:36pm
You can't it's incapable of going any faster, unless BY GEORGE I HAVE IT! I'm PM'ing you right now, I want you to be my lil' guinea pig.... 

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Posted By: VTpaintballer
Date Posted: 12 July 2005 at 4:37pm
i thought there was a way, i think i'll just get a halo b and ripo it apart and make the cyclone electric that would be insane!


Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 12 July 2005 at 4:39pm
Good luck with that.

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Posted By: VTpaintballer
Date Posted: 12 July 2005 at 4:40pm

well i'll just order another cyclone and try that, haha it will suck

but ya guys, is there any possible way?



Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 12 July 2005 at 4:47pm
Jovian had a thread in Ideas a while back discussing the "Cyclone v2" with his ideas for improvement.

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Posted By: VTpaintballer
Date Posted: 12 July 2005 at 4:50pm
thanks i'll search it


Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 12 July 2005 at 5:13pm
It actually tops out at around 17.3 or some odd decimal like that.

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Posted By: Metal_Nutz
Date Posted: 12 July 2005 at 5:30pm

I thread about trying to make the cyclone feed fast

http://www.tippmann.com/players/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID=133390&PN=1 - http://www.tippmann.com/players/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp ?TID=133390&PN=1



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Posted By: Baldey
Date Posted: 12 July 2005 at 5:40pm
why the hell u wana make it go faster? u dont plan to actually pull the trigger 15 times a second do you? 10 maybie, even 12 but 15??? i dono... id rather not risk chopping paintballs, and go with th 15 balls per second. talking to priate i guess wount hurt tho...


Posted By: Metal_Nutz
Date Posted: 12 July 2005 at 6:12pm

Originally posted by Baldey Baldey wrote:

why the hell u wana make it go faster? u dont plan to actually pull the trigger 15 times a second do you? 10 maybie, even 12 but 15??? i dono... id rather not risk chopping paintballs, and go with th 15 balls per second. talking to priate i guess wount hurt tho...

ummm a lot of people can pull the tigger that fast i fave an A-5, egrip, and JCS trigger and I can max it out at 15 bps



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Posted By: ^Pirate^
Date Posted: 12 July 2005 at 6:21pm
I easily hit 20bps...

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Posted By: Baldey
Date Posted: 12 July 2005 at 6:33pm

oh :| well im new i guess, and ive never seen anyone breack 10bps :P

i dont really go for speed, i shoot in bursts of 3 usually



Posted By: ^Pirate^
Date Posted: 12 July 2005 at 6:41pm
I think I have a vid somewhere of me hittin 20 somewhere, but then there's that mouse game...

http://13holes.com/final.html - http://13holes.com/final.html

http://planeteclipse.com/ego/default.asp?swf=EgoBps.swf - http://planeteclipse.com/ego/default.asp?swf=EgoBps.swf

That's both of them right there, they're SUPER inaccurate, but there.
They're pretty fun when you're bored though...


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Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 12 July 2005 at 8:22pm
I still say slap a QEV on there and it will run faster.

The major limitation of the cyclone is the fact that it is spring return. At rapid fire so much air will be getting fed into the cylinder that it cant exhaust fast enough to spring return (the stars turn on the cylinder retracting, not extending)


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Posted By: *J2*
Date Posted: 12 July 2005 at 8:33pm
Originally posted by Rambino Rambino wrote:

Good luck with that.


Lol. I can smell the doubt.

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Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 12 July 2005 at 8:48pm
I still like the Warp feed system idea I had on an A-5 by ditching the cyclone all together. Im sure someone else thought of it too and Im not taking credit. 

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Posted By: Metal_Nutz
Date Posted: 12 July 2005 at 9:00pm

Originally posted by Enos Shenk Enos Shenk wrote:

I still say slap a QEV on there and it will run faster.

The major limitation of the cyclone is the fact that it is spring return. At rapid fire so much air will be getting fed into the cylinder that it cant exhaust fast enough to spring return (the stars turn on the cylinder retracting, not extending)

that seems like such an easy fix Tippman could just engineer it the other way, or a company could make a kit or something



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Posted By: ^Pirate^
Date Posted: 12 July 2005 at 9:02pm
Originally posted by Metal_Nutz Metal_Nutz wrote:

Originally posted by Enos Shenk Enos Shenk wrote:

I still say slap a QEV on there and it will run faster.

The major limitation of the cyclone is the fact that it is spring return. At rapid fire so much air will be getting fed into the cylinder that it cant exhaust fast enough to spring return (the stars turn on the cylinder retracting, not extending)

that seems like such an easy fix Tippman could just engineer it the other way, or a company could make a kit or something


Tippmann.......... is useless.... I hat to say it but, they don't care is the way I feel since Simmit partners showed up, and especially since they're not making the e-grip...


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Posted By: Millslane
Date Posted: 12 July 2005 at 9:08pm
talked to tippmann...cyclone caps for reliability at 15 bps.

with the new was board installed in an e-grip, a test was done and results were at 17 bps, cyclone was doing just fine.

after he hit 19 bps, it starts missing and then chopping bad. that was with a stock cyclone with no attpemt of modding it.

now the Vulcan, for those of you who know what that is (the greats A-5 and no, its not yours) shoots much faster than 19 bps and does it flawlessly. i think its in the 25 bps range and accurate. and yes it has its own name. its modifiey somehow. only two people know how. the former owner and creator, and the man he gave it to.


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Posted By: ^Pirate^
Date Posted: 12 July 2005 at 10:01pm
When I'm done will my 98 have it's own name?

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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 12 July 2005 at 10:51pm
"arrrrgh"

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Optional setup:
R/T
Dead on Blade trigger


Posted By: ^Pirate^
Date Posted: 13 July 2005 at 7:25am
Originally posted by You Wont See Me You Wont See Me wrote:

"arrrrgh"


Sounds nice..... I may have to consider this....


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Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 13 July 2005 at 9:20am

Heck I'm up to 4bps, I wait for the shot instead of painting up some bunker. Unless I am keeping players down then I paint.



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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 13 July 2005 at 11:53am
I have the RT on my A and the Cyclone has no problem keeping up.

All I need to know is if it's "fast enough" and it definitely is, with tons of reliability....and no bateries.

What's a QEV?


Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 13 July 2005 at 12:00pm
Quick Exhaust Valve, allows the air in a cylinder to exhaust directly at the input port.

http://www.clippard.com/store/display_details.asp?sku=MEV-2 - http://www.clippard.com/store/display_details.asp?sku=MEV-2

Or part number MEV-2-NP for nickel plated.


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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 13 July 2005 at 12:09pm
Very interesting! I'm no designer, but it seems do-able, and better.

Thanks for the quick reply!


Posted By: twistedkev1990
Date Posted: 18 July 2005 at 12:53am
http://www.a5og.net - www.a5og.net had something about making the cyclone faster...

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Posted By: Bango
Date Posted: 18 July 2005 at 12:56am
Here is a cyclone for the http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=quHbuSej3qTbH2V4nvMbES1qVQxCaryhxHI=?ProductID=K4TAqArbI9cAAAEF9azBwgyC - 98

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Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 18 July 2005 at 5:01am
Originally posted by Bango Bango wrote:

Here is a cyclone for the http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=quHbuSej3qTbH2V4nvMbES1qVQxCaryhxHI=?ProductID=K4TAqArbI9cAAAEF9azBwgyC - 98


gee thanks.... that really answers the main question.


Set up the cyclone with its own solenoid, regulator, and double action ram and you can really get the speed up. Thats another one of my projects I gave up on.


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