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Topic: badass military images
Posted By: Predatorr
Subject: badass military images
Date Posted: 14 July 2005 at 9:27pm

post the most badass military image you can find.

Rules-dont be like procarbinefreak last time as in posting images of dead people, animals and the like.  We dont want to see that regardless of if its a US troop or not.  Thats just not needed.  Anyways so post the most badass military image you can find. Ill have mine up in a moment




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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 14 July 2005 at 9:28pm


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Date Posted: 14 July 2005 at 9:29pm


Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 14 July 2005 at 9:33pm


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Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 14 July 2005 at 9:33pm




not gorey, completely compliant with forum rules...


Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 14 July 2005 at 9:34pm


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Date Posted: 14 July 2005 at 9:37pm


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Date Posted: 14 July 2005 at 9:38pm


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Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 14 July 2005 at 9:39pm


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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 14 July 2005 at 9:41pm


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Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 14 July 2005 at 9:42pm



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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 14 July 2005 at 9:42pm
Originally posted by Hades Hades wrote:



mmmmmmmmmmmm


Posted By: Mehs
Date Posted: 14 July 2005 at 9:42pm



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Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 14 July 2005 at 9:52pm


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Posted By: pbdude985
Date Posted: 14 July 2005 at 9:56pm


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Posted By: EtsJustMe
Date Posted: 14 July 2005 at 9:58pm

i have a bunch of blue angels one, available upon request

 

dont feel like hostin'



Posted By: pbdude985
Date Posted: 14 July 2005 at 9:59pm


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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 14 July 2005 at 10:34pm


Posted By: goodsmitty
Date Posted: 14 July 2005 at 10:51pm

HAWD!

Absolutely, 100% BADASS. So hard, he joined the killers of the Alabama National Guard to ensure he would see killin' in the 'Nam. So secret they can't find his service record for over a year.

 



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Posted By: blandpart2
Date Posted: 14 July 2005 at 11:11pm


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Posted By: Fat Stalin
Date Posted: 14 July 2005 at 11:32pm





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Posted By: Blue Hopper
Date Posted: 15 July 2005 at 12:04am
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/index.php - http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/index.php  I give you a whole forum of military photos

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Posted By: Rico's Revenge
Date Posted: 15 July 2005 at 3:31pm

Back on topic...

 



Posted By: oreomann33
Date Posted: 15 July 2005 at 3:35pm


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Posted By: Frozen Balls
Date Posted: 15 July 2005 at 3:37pm





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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 15 July 2005 at 3:38pm


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Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 15 July 2005 at 3:47pm

 

On a related note - the Blue Angels are doing flybys past my office as we speak.  Loud as heck, too.



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Posted By: AngelSlayer
Date Posted: 15 July 2005 at 3:55pm


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Hey, Pate, it does feel good to be a gangster.


Posted By: lester98c
Date Posted: 15 July 2005 at 4:11pm

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/meast/07/14/mideast.photo graph/vert.baby.bomber.jpg - http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/meast/07/14/mideast.photo graph/vert.baby.bomber.jpg

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Posted By: Belt #2
Date Posted: 15 July 2005 at 4:22pm

Enough said...



Posted By: Hitman
Date Posted: 15 July 2005 at 4:31pm




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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 15 July 2005 at 4:35pm
SWAT-6
 
I still like this.


Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 15 July 2005 at 5:45pm




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Posted By: Project Irene
Date Posted: 15 July 2005 at 10:53pm

I've seen the Thunderbirds perform twice at Maxwell air force base.  It's unbelievable what they do.



Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 15 July 2005 at 10:57pm





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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 15 July 2005 at 11:06pm
Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

Originally posted by Ejp414 Ejp414 wrote:


Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

Did he learn to flip flop and change his views every 10 minutes in the army?


I think that he was in the Navy, actually.

But it's cool, you probably still know all about Kerry's views and how
he flip-flopped despite the fact that you know so little about him.


Aww boo hoo, i really dont care about it, the public saw him for what he is


But they somehow missed the real Bush I guess...
















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Date Posted: 15 July 2005 at 11:53pm




Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 16 July 2005 at 12:52am


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Posted By: borntopaint
Date Posted: 16 July 2005 at 1:35am









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Posted By: goodsmitty
Date Posted: 16 July 2005 at 4:55am

1,758



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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 18 July 2005 at 12:50am


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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 18 July 2005 at 10:47am

Originally posted by ShortyBP ShortyBP wrote:

I say Repubicans AND Democrats suck. I'm not down with either of the big boy clubs.

Wise words.

Unfortunately, that leaves us with Ralph Nader or Aryan Nation.  They're no walk in the park either.

We need better politicians.  Calling better politicians...

 

And my apologies for participating in the hijack of this otherwise fine thread.  Back on point:



Posted By: fireperson97012
Date Posted: 18 July 2005 at 3:20pm


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Posted By: bluemunky42
Date Posted: 18 July 2005 at 4:06pm

Kapowie

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Posted By: Impulse.
Date Posted: 18 July 2005 at 4:37pm
What  would france be,without U.S.

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Posted By: Hitman
Date Posted: 18 July 2005 at 4:52pm
That picture is quite amazing... when you are scrolling down the page and you see the tip of the Eiffel tower, you don't know what to expect when you get to the bottom... nice find.

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Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 18 July 2005 at 5:03pm








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Posted By: ionic
Date Posted: 18 July 2005 at 7:55pm

http://www.mechanizedbrick.com/mode1s/T74.jpg - http://www.mechanizedbrick.com/mode1s/T74.jpg  

some lego tank

http://www.brickmania.com/Gallery2/missouri/images/P3120036.jpg - http://www.brickmania.com/Gallery2/missouri/images/P3120036. jpg

USS Missouri

more at... http://www.http://www.brickmania.com/Gallery2/war/ - www.brickmania.com/Gallery2/war/



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Posted By: ShortyBP
Date Posted: 18 July 2005 at 11:11pm
Culled from 8 pages to 3.
Why? Because I can.

Hopefully, all remaining posts are on-topic up to this point, and only have pictures. Some will still have off-topic quotes in the message bodies, but I didn't want to go thru and edit individual posts.

I must apologize to Ricos Revenge on the deletion of the A-10/P-51 pics, if you could repost them, that'd be great. Upon viewing at home, the pictures didn't show... so I yanked the post thinking it was off-topic. Didn't realize til afterwards what was supposed to be there.


Posted By: *Stealth*
Date Posted: 18 July 2005 at 11:14pm



Good god, Three .50 berrets and 3 m24's... I'd hate to be at the recieving end of that.


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Date Posted: 18 July 2005 at 11:20pm



Posted By: eMike
Date Posted: 18 July 2005 at 11:24pm
Your moms bedroom.

Like everyother thing in the world.


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Posted By: ionic
Date Posted: 18 July 2005 at 11:29pm

 



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Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 18 July 2005 at 11:32pm









Just thought I'd keep em comming...


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The desire for polyester is just to powerful.


Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 19 July 2005 at 12:49am
Here:


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Posted By: ShortyBP
Date Posted: 19 July 2005 at 9:31am
Originally posted by agentwhale007. agentwhale007. wrote:


agentwhale (and others)... if you feel the need to post a picture of someone burning the stars and stripes, feel free to do so in a NEW thread. I fail to see the significance of this image on a thread dedicated to military images. I *might* see some significance if it were a thread dedicated to "War". Images like these will continue to be deleted from this thread, and if some continue to be persistant in putting it up... they'll find their account gone in the morning. I don't give "strikes".
Not saying you can't post a picture of someone burning the flag. Just saying you can't post it here.
Thanks.


Posted By: Killgore
Date Posted: 19 July 2005 at 10:00am
The British military have some amazing kit! The guy with the lense covers over his night vision goggles is using "The Force" to spot his target. :)

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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 19 July 2005 at 10:53am
Originally posted by Killgore Killgore wrote:

The British military have some amazing kit! The guy with the lense covers over his night vision goggles is using "The Force" to spot his target. :)
Thats what I was talkling about, they are using out Land Warrior system. Google it

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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 19 July 2005 at 11:00am

We had a nice thread about flagburning a little while ago.  I'm sure we could continue that discussion if needed, or just start another one.

What the hey - I'll just go bump it now.



Posted By: ShortyBP
Date Posted: 19 July 2005 at 11:10am
AgentWhale... I know I left it in the quote. Since I deleted all other references, I didn't want my warning to simply appear out of nowhere in case anyone else decided to come in and post something similar.

Bumping the old thread or creating a new one is fine by me. Despite my distaste for the subject matter.

Thanks

Sorry for the repeated axing of your posts too... but again, trying to keep this one thread on-subject.


Posted By: agentwhale007.
Date Posted: 19 July 2005 at 11:11am
So ShortyBP, are you going to begin editing every off subject post in every thread now?

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Hey, nice marmot!


Posted By: ShortyBP
Date Posted: 19 July 2005 at 11:14am
I wish.
At one time I had the patience, time and ability to do just that.

I can't keep up with the volume now, so I'll pick and choose my battles. I had followed the progress of this particular thread as well as just a small handful of others... so they're my pet projects for the week.


Posted By: agentwhale007.
Date Posted: 19 July 2005 at 11:23am



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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 19 July 2005 at 11:26am

America's Finest Newsource.

:)



Posted By: agentwhale007.
Date Posted: 19 July 2005 at 11:28am
Originally posted by Clark Kent Clark Kent wrote:

America's Finest Newsource.

:)

Me gusta la cebolla.



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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 19 July 2005 at 4:56pm
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/07/19/iraq.bodycount/index.html - Number guess of civilian causulities and injured civilians... I wonder in comparison how many "bad guys' we have killed/injured.

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Posted By: Hitman
Date Posted: 19 July 2005 at 6:04pm
25,000 is pretty bad ass.

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Posted By: mysteriousone
Date Posted: 20 July 2005 at 12:02am
 

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Posted By: mysteriousone
Date Posted: 20 July 2005 at 12:15am


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"Where is your beer tonight? I hope its a heineken."
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Posted By: agentwhale007.
Date Posted: 20 July 2005 at 12:19am

Originally posted by mysteriousone mysteriousone wrote:

 

Too bad they, you know, lost.



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Posted By: mysteriousone
Date Posted: 20 July 2005 at 12:22am
Originally posted by agentwhale007. agentwhale007. wrote:

Originally posted by mysteriousone mysteriousone wrote:

 

Too bad they, you know, lost.

I,you know, already knew that. I am planning on being a military historian and will start my freshman year next year with a major in history so you would think i already knew that.



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Posted By: PlentifulBalls
Date Posted: 20 July 2005 at 1:49am
Originally posted by Kristofer Kristofer wrote:





I love that movie.


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Posted By: Hella Cool
Date Posted: 20 July 2005 at 1:51am
Originally posted by Hitman Hitman wrote:

25,000 is pretty bad ass.


Bad ass like as in good? Or bad? Because those are civilian deaths.


Posted By: bluemunky42
Date Posted: 20 July 2005 at 8:54am
the confederate flag is way cooler looking than our current one. however i'm not sure it would look so good with 50 stars.
heres another pic
and who could leave out this pup

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Posted By: ionic
Date Posted: 20 July 2005 at 10:05am

Accuracy International AS50 Semi-Automatic Rifle

buy one today^



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Posted By: agentwhale007.
Date Posted: 20 July 2005 at 10:21am

Hahahaha PWNT!



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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 20 July 2005 at 10:32am
hahah Hades post made me laugh.

SO tell me, if we killed 37% (I don't believe for one second) and insurgants killed only 9.. then who the hell are these "criminals"

Last I checked "criminals" didn't blow IEDs or themselves up.

No way in hell we killed more civilians then the insuurgants...

Originally posted by Prime Ministers office Prime Ministers office wrote:

"We welcome the attention given by this report to Iraqi victims of violence but we consider that it is mistaken in claiming that the plague of terrorism has killed fewer Iraqis than the multinational forces,"...."The international forces try to avoid civilian casualties, whereas the terrorists target civilians and try to kill as many of them as they can."


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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 20 July 2005 at 11:46am

Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

No way in hell we killed more civilians then the insuurgants...

And you base that firm conclusion on... what?  A statement by a politician?  Do you have any other secret source that we don't know about?

 



Posted By: Predatorr
Date Posted: 20 July 2005 at 12:26pm
If you guys (and lady ) watched  shootout on the history channel last night, it told the story and the casualty rates from the whole falluja battle and the number of isurgents killed.  I asked my faja who works for DOD, who informed me that the numbers they had was almost right. So....maybe hades story is right..


Posted By: fireperson97012
Date Posted: 20 July 2005 at 1:00pm
Originally posted by Predatorr Predatorr wrote:

If you guys (and lady ) watched  shootout on the history channel last night, it told the story and the casualty rates from the whole falluja battle and the number of isurgents killed.  I asked my faja who works for DOD, who informed me that the numbers they had was almost right. So....maybe hades story is right..

OMJ I WATCHED THAT!!!


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Posted By: Telemachus
Date Posted: 20 July 2005 at 1:29pm

Originally posted by bluemunky42 bluemunky42 wrote:

the confederate flag is way cooler looking than our current one. however i'm not sure it would look so good with 50 stars.

I find the confederate flag to be very disrespectfull, full of hate, and treason.



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Posted By: ShortyBP
Date Posted: 20 July 2005 at 1:36pm
Originally posted by Predatorr Predatorr wrote:

If you guys (and lady ) watched shootout on the history channel last night, it told the story and the casualty rates from the whole falluja battle and the number of isurgents killed. I asked my faja who works for DOD, who informed me that the numbers they had was almost right. So....maybe hades story is right..

OK... I'll give up on keeping this a picture thread. So all your posts are safe (within forum rules) here from here on out without me being a tyrant/nazi, whale. :) If the originator has no problems with it, I shouldn't either. So the "military images" thread simply becomes another "war in Iraq thread".

Didn't catch shootout last night... was hoping to.

As for the numbers of civilian casualties... I believe the numbers.

I am skeptical of the percentages given... although will not doubt that a high percentage can be directly attributed to US/Multi-national forces. The breakdown is awkward, and as with everything... gathering the "true" statistics and numbers is nearly impossible given the circumstances over there. But I'll believe that they may be "close enough" to be considered true.
The only skepticism I have is that the group doing the tabulating is an "Anti-War" group... so in the back of my mind, I tend to believe the numbers will be slanted. Just as I would believe the numbers would be slanted the other way, were it the US military/Govt giving their "count". But... benefit of the doubt... I'll believe them to be as close to factual as can be found, all things considered.

I believe the actual breakdown as they claim is as follows (and no, it doesn't add up to 100%)

37.3% civilian deaths directly attributed to US Coalition Forces. 3/4 of which occured during the "Invasion Phase" prior to May 1, 2003.

35.6% attributed to "Criminals"
9.5% to Insurgents
11% by suicide bombs and terrorist attacks that "lacked a clearly identifiable military objective"
2.5% to US-led troops and Anti-Occupation Forces
3.8% to "Military Actions/Terrorist Attacks"
Total: 99.7% (Numbers taken from another news story reporting on www.iraqbodycount.org's findings)

Given the airstrikes, urban fighting and bombing raids targeting Saddam in residential areas... I can believe that a large number of civilians were killed during the invasion-phase, as stated. 7,000? Seems high... but I won't discount it, since I'm over here in my comfy chair and not there witnessing it. Add up deaths from subsequent fighting against insurgents, and the shooting up of poor folk who didn't stop at checkpoints... and US/Coalition caused deaths rack up. Hard pill to swallow... but fairly accurate.

It's how they seperated everything else that I don't understand as much. I guess they tried to seperate deaths due to insurgents more specifically?
Do we count criminals as part of the insurgency? Maybe not. I'm sure there are many homicides as a result of thugs not related to the insurgency campaign.
I'll guess that by "insurgents" they're saying deaths on civilians specifically targeted by insurgents (9.5%)
The 11% from suicide bombs/attacks against civilian targets. The 3.8% from suicide bombs/attacks that meant to target Coalition forces. The 2.5% has me baffled, as it includes "US-led forces" and "Anti-Occupation forces"... so I'll assume these are civies caught in the crossfire between US/Sadr forces?

Either way... it's a lot. To think that Coalition forces aren't responsible for so many deaths is wishful thinking. When a "bad guy" is shooting at you from a position within a civilian area... in your attempt to get the "bad guy", chances are you will end up hitting some of the civilians they've surrounded themselves with.


Posted By: ^Pirate^
Date Posted: 20 July 2005 at 1:56pm
 
Originally posted by Clark Kent Clark Kent wrote:

Originally posted by ShortyBP ShortyBP wrote:

I say Repubicans AND Democrats suck. I'm not down with either of the big boy clubs.

Wise words.

Unfortunately, that leaves us with Ralph Nader or Aryan Nation.  They're no walk in the park either.

We need better politicians.  Calling better politicians...

 

And my apologies for participating in the hijack of this otherwise fine thread.  Back on point:

Different shades of gray.

 

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Posted By: Predatorr
Date Posted: 20 July 2005 at 2:45pm
Originally posted by Telemachus Telemachus wrote:

Originally posted by bluemunky42 bluemunky42 wrote:

the confederate flag is way cooler looking than our current one. however i'm not sure it would look so good with 50 stars.

I find the confederate flag to be very disrespectfull, full of hate, and treason.

coming from alabama, i know what the flag is really about.  People tend to think that the flag is about hating black people and wanting slavery etc.  Wrong.  I see just as many black people as white people with the confederate flag on their pole.  Not to mention my next door neighbor was extremely opposed to slavery and had the confederate flag on this favorite hat.  Now to the real meaning.  Ask any southerner, an real southerner and he or she will tell you that the flag stands for strength, bravery, and honor.  Now when people say that the flag stands for treason and not devoting yourself to a good cause, i have this to say to them.  In japan, ronin are masterless samurai who would rather die than pledge alleigance to another lord.  It's all about honoring your leader.  These confederates were honoring their leader and stuff. True, some were only in it for the slavery and stuff but the bulk of the people just followed their leader. 

Also as we all know, war is about the haves and the have nots.  The Civil war was no different.  The confederates did not have the technology for machines and all that hoo ha like the yankees.  The union had machinery and the like so there was no need for slavery.  All this cosidered, the confederates didnt want machinery.  So what im saying is rather than being opinionated and biased, know your facts before interpereting a flag.



Posted By: holysmartone
Date Posted: 20 July 2005 at 2:51pm

Metal storm. 1,000,000 rounds per minute.
Its only labled as 10,000 RPM on the weapon, but its capable of 1 million.
We need to send a few of those over to Iraq, thatd stop some terrorists.


Posted By: Ejp414
Date Posted: 20 July 2005 at 3:10pm
Originally posted by Predatorr Predatorr wrote:

Originally posted by Telemachus Telemachus wrote:

Originally posted by bluemunky42 bluemunky42 wrote:

the confederate flag is way cooler looking than our current one. however i'm not sure it would look so good with 50 stars.

I find the confederate flag to be very disrespectfull, full of hate, and treason.

coming from alabama, i know what the flag is really about.  People tend to think that the flag is about hating black people and wanting slavery etc.  Wrong.  I see just as many black people as white people with the confederate flag on their pole.  Not to mention my next door neighbor was extremely opposed to slavery and had the confederate flag on this favorite hat.  Now to the real meaning.  Ask any southerner, an real southerner and he or she will tell you that the flag stands for strength, bravery, and honor.  Now when people say that the flag stands for treason and not devoting yourself to a good cause, i have this to say to them.  In japan, ronin are masterless samurai who would rather die than pledge alleigance to another lord.  It's all about honoring your leader.  These confederates were honoring their leader and stuff. True, some were only in it for the slavery and stuff but the bulk of the people just followed their leader. 

Also as we all know, war is about the haves and the have nots.  The Civil war was no different.  The confederates did not have the technology for machines and all that hoo ha like the yankees.  The union had machinery and the like so there was no need for slavery.  All this cosidered, the confederates didnt want machinery.  So what im saying is rather than being opinionated and biased, know your facts before interpereting a flag.



I'm a real Southerner: I live in the South; I don't mind hunting; I grew up in a Catholic family; my city lives for college football; many good friends of mine drive around in huge trucks with the Confederate flag tacked to the back; at least 90% of the people I know are pro-Bush; I am packing for New York City tomorrow, and I have to bring a ridiculous amount of money because it's worth more down here than it is up there; for all of my good grammar, I still say "ya'll" from time to time. I'm a real Southerner.

That said, even I can understand the simple facts of the matter. The Confederate flag was the standard of a collection of states who committed treason by leaving the Union because they felt their state rights were being violated. They felt their state rights were being violated for many reasons, but most were in relation to the issue of slavery.

Though the Civil War was not as clearly cut into good guy and bad guy as many would make it seem, that still does not change the fact that the flag of a treasonous Confederation is not fit to hang on the flagpoles of our state government buildings, except in the rare case of historical preservation.

Another point: whether the connotation of "treason" is fair to the South, they still technically committed treason, and that is the truth. Think of the connotation of the flag in that same way. Sure, it may not seem to say what it really represents, but it holds a certain meaning to people. There is less of a reason to have it than there is a reason not to have it . . . .

For the sake of an analogy, say I have a pornographic poster in my apartment, and a female friend comes to live with me. She finds it awkward, but I tell her, "Oh, come on, it's not like it turns me on sexually at all. It's sentimental; my friend Joshie gave it to me. You shouldn't feel awkward around it."

Despite the meaning to you, should you still keep the pornographic poster on your wall, hanging in the face of your female friend as she tries to sleep? She has a different understanding of its meaning than you do, and as good of a friend Joshie was, I'm sure it wouldn't kill you to take down the poster for the sake of your friend, who is now just as much a resident of the apartment as you are.


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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 20 July 2005 at 3:18pm

Man, some of these pics won't post.

Anyways, unfortunately these two officers are using very ridiculous weapons.



Posted By: Telemachus
Date Posted: 20 July 2005 at 3:21pm
Im a southerner. I know what the real meaning of the flag is. The confederate flag is anti-American. The southern states didnt like the lack of states rights so they broke apart from America and formed their own country. Thats anti-American.

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Posted By: holysmartone
Date Posted: 20 July 2005 at 3:37pm
Dune, since when is an M79 Grenade Launcher a rediculus weapon?


Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 20 July 2005 at 3:55pm

Originally posted by holysmartone holysmartone wrote:

Dune, since when is an M79 Grenade Launcher a rediculus weapon?

It's a relatively short range, inaccurate, single shot weapon. It is extremely ridiculous. They realized that in Vietnam, it's funny that some police departments still use them.



Posted By: Telemachus
Date Posted: 20 July 2005 at 3:59pm
Originally posted by Dune Dune wrote:

Originally posted by holysmartone holysmartone wrote:

Dune, since when is an M79 Grenade Launcher a rediculus weapon?

It's a relatively short range, inaccurate, single shot weapon. It is extremely ridiculous. They realized that in Vietnam, it's funny that some police departments still use them.

I figured they would use them only for shooting smoke and anti-riot gas canisters, actions that dont require a whole lot of perfect aim.



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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 20 July 2005 at 4:00pm
Originally posted by Telemachus Telemachus wrote:

Originally posted by Dune Dune wrote:

Originally posted by holysmartone holysmartone wrote:

Dune, since when is an M79 Grenade Launcher a rediculus weapon?

It's a relatively short range, inaccurate, single shot weapon. It is extremely ridiculous. They realized that in Vietnam, it's funny that some police departments still use them.

I figured they would use them only for shooting smoke and anti-riot gas canisters, actions that dont require a whole lot of perfect aim.

That's true, but it's still relatively inaccurate even for their needs. There are much better semi-automatic gas guns on the market right now that departments have started to pick up. The m-79 was just a mistake to be made in the first place. Not to mention I don't like the Baretta the other officer has either.



Posted By: agentwhale007.
Date Posted: 20 July 2005 at 4:02pm

Originally posted by ShortyBP ShortyBP wrote:

OK... I'll give up on keeping this a picture thread. So all your posts are safe (within forum rules) here from here on out without me being a tyrant/nazi, whale. :)

Hey hey hey, let the record show that I never once called you a tyrant or a nazi, in the same sentance that is...

Love ya Shorty.



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Posted By: ShortyBP
Date Posted: 20 July 2005 at 4:06pm
Originally posted by agentwhale007. agentwhale007. wrote:

Hey hey hey, let the record show that I never once called you a tyrant or a nazi, in the same sentance that is...

Hehe. Record will show that. Only because I deleted all records.


Posted By: agentwhale007.
Date Posted: 20 July 2005 at 4:11pm

I hope this never gets cleared from the records.



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Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 20 July 2005 at 4:13pm
Did we ever confirm which one is Shorty?

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Posted By: ShortyBP
Date Posted: 20 July 2005 at 4:16pm
The ugly one.

Man, I wonder what she is up to these days. Haven't heard from her in years. That was a great night.


Posted By: holysmartone
Date Posted: 20 July 2005 at 4:26pm
Even through its inaccuracy, the m79 could be a more practical weapon for police use. It has a shorter range, which means it must have a lower muzzle velocity. Lower muzzle velocity would feasably(sp?) cause it to cause less damage on impact if the round were to actually hit a person. And since the police tend to deal in closer quarters anyways, long range isnt terribly necessary. And the Baretta is the same, most police officers dont need a .357 magnum, and many cant handle that kind of firepower. Also, many are scared to use such a large weapon. The baretta is a weapon with less reciol, less noise, and decent overall performance. Combine that with the correct kind of bullet to offer good stopping power, that wont go THOUGH the target and hit bystanders.


Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 20 July 2005 at 4:30pm

Originally posted by holysmartone holysmartone wrote:

Even through its inaccuracy, the m79 could be a more practical weapon for police use. It has a shorter range, which means it must have a lower muzzle velocity. Lower muzzle velocity would feasably(sp?) cause it to cause less damage on impact if the round were to actually hit a person. And since the police tend to deal in closer quarters anyways, long range isnt terribly necessary. And the Baretta is the same, most police officers dont need a .357 magnum, and many cant handle that kind of firepower. Also, many are scared to use such a large weapon. The baretta is a weapon with less reciol, less noise, and decent overall performance. Combine that with the correct kind of bullet to offer good stopping power, that wont go THOUGH the target and hit bystanders.

For use of the m-79, it's low firing rate and low velocity does not help those officers in crowds nor those officers trying to break a window. It is an outdated weapon. The Baretta, although simple to use and clean, is an inaccurate weapon that tends to jam easily with all range of bullets, low powered to high powered. The Baretta also has loose parts, causing the breach of the casing to not always touch to the firing pin, causing live jams. Also, the 9mm has a high velocity which quite often sends it through the person, since most gun fights are within 3ft of each other. The .40 cal and sometimes the .45 cal should be the common use for police.



Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 20 July 2005 at 4:34pm

Which reminds me how excited I am about visiting a friend of mine this weekend - he's a cop in Washington state.  Your neck of the woods, right, Dune?




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