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Topic: White Clouds!
Posted By: joetheman89
Subject: White Clouds!
Date Posted: 16 July 2005 at 9:41pm
I have been having too much CO2 coming out of my barrel. I have an expansion chamber on though. It was just doing this today for some reason, not sure if it is the weather,( it was very warm and raining), or if it is a gun problem. Please replay if you can help!

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Armson Stealth 13"
Flatline
GTA Expansion Chamber
GTA Double Trigger
Ben Tippmann Sealed Bolt
Lapco Drop
APP Sling



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Posted By: Mehs
Date Posted: 16 July 2005 at 10:43pm
The air always comes out of the barrel, that's where it's supposed to go. 

The "white clouds" usually happen when you use a recently filled co2 tank.


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Posted By: joetheman89
Date Posted: 16 July 2005 at 10:48pm
well, this was happening during the whole game, i know air will always come out, but it was thick and white, very unusual

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98 Custom
Armson Stealth 13"
Flatline
GTA Expansion Chamber
GTA Double Trigger
Ben Tippmann Sealed Bolt
Lapco Drop
APP Sling


Posted By: \\mercenary//
Date Posted: 17 July 2005 at 4:48pm

i had that happen to me before too.  it didnt last the whole game though.  the clouds are formed by liquid CO2 entering the gun.  try getting your co2 tank anti-syphoned or an expansion chamber.  i think a regulator would work too but im not sure about that.



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Posted By: TippmannPro13
Date Posted: 17 July 2005 at 4:53pm
^ he said he has an expansion chamber. This has happend to me also. Since you have an expansion chamber there is not a whole lot you can do. Besides getting your tank anti-siphoned. It should stop creating these clouds eventually. If all else fails you could switch to HPA.

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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 17 July 2005 at 5:04pm
Also, the air around you has an affect as well. The rain may be helping the clouds to be more visible.


Posted By: joetheman89
Date Posted: 17 July 2005 at 9:21pm
ok thanks for your help, it could of been just the rain, but if it does it again i'll get my tanks anti-siphoned, thats not too much either

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98 Custom
Armson Stealth 13"
Flatline
GTA Expansion Chamber
GTA Double Trigger
Ben Tippmann Sealed Bolt
Lapco Drop
APP Sling


Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 18 July 2005 at 3:02am
If I were you, I would stop wasting time/money and just buy an HPA tank.


Posted By: blackdog144
Date Posted: 18 July 2005 at 1:19pm
that happend to me once to....dont know how to fix it

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Posted By: S\/\/4T-L()G4N
Date Posted: 18 July 2005 at 5:24pm
Rain = humidity = CO2 clouds. Nothing bad is happening, no harm...etc.

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Posted By: joetheman89
Date Posted: 18 July 2005 at 9:39pm
but if you but an HPA tank, don't you have to buy a low pressure system also, that's adding up to a lot of money...

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98 Custom
Armson Stealth 13"
Flatline
GTA Expansion Chamber
GTA Double Trigger
Ben Tippmann Sealed Bolt
Lapco Drop
APP Sling


Posted By: Sargent Duck
Date Posted: 18 July 2005 at 11:00pm
Originally posted by joetheman89 joetheman89 wrote:

but if you but an HPA tank, don't you have to buy a low pressure system also, that's adding up to a lot of money...


no. steps to using HPA tank
1)buy HPA tank
2)fill HPA tank
3)screw HPA tank unto Tippmann
4)shoot Tippmann

That's a common misconception people have. A Tippmann can accept any HPA tank. Just screw it into the ASA. The Low Pressure Kit is only to make your gun more efficient and run on a lower amount of air.


Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 19 July 2005 at 12:49am

Originally posted by Sargent Duck Sargent Duck wrote:

Originally posted by joetheman89 joetheman89 wrote:

but if you but an HPA tank, don't you have to buy a low pressure system also, that's adding up to a lot of money...


no. steps to using HPA tank
1)buy HPA tank
2)fill HPA tank
3)screw HPA tank unto Tippmann
4)shoot Tippmann

That's a common misconception people have. A Tippmann can accept any HPA tank. Just screw it into the ASA. The Low Pressure Kit is only to make your gun more efficient and run on a lower amount of air.

No, Tippmanns in general need a tank with an 800 psi output or more.

TH1 WILL argue with me on this, but wutevas



Posted By: Bruce A. Frank
Date Posted: 19 July 2005 at 12:40pm

Originally posted by joetheman89 joetheman89 wrote:

I have been having too much CO2 coming out of my barrel. I have an expansion chamber on though. It was just doing this today for some reason, not sure if it is the weather,( it was very warm and raining), or if it is a gun problem. Please replay if you can help!

Contrary to other comments, your experience has nothing to do with lack of a siphon or a just-filled CO2 bottle. Your marker is not shooting out excessive CO2. What is happening is caused by the extremely high humidity when playing in warm rain. The cold blast of CO2, which is normal, coming out of the end of the barrel is causing condensation of the humidity in the air...creating fog. It is just the temperature difference.  Just like the frosty fog your breath creates on a cold day...except in frosty-breath case you are blowing humid gas into a cold environment rather than cold gas into a humid environment.



Posted By: joetheman89
Date Posted: 19 July 2005 at 5:04pm
I think I agree with Bruce A. Frank the most, that makes the most sense to me.

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98 Custom
Armson Stealth 13"
Flatline
GTA Expansion Chamber
GTA Double Trigger
Ben Tippmann Sealed Bolt
Lapco Drop
APP Sling


Posted By: bluemunky42
Date Posted: 19 July 2005 at 6:24pm
Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Also, the air around you has an affect as well. The rain may be helping the clouds to be more visible.

thats what i think

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Posted By: Brode30
Date Posted: 22 July 2005 at 12:04am
Chemistry major here and the white cloud is the very low temperature of the CO2 actually freezing the water in the air... rain/humidity only makes the cloud more visible... it is the exact same effect as the CO2 fire extinguishers, big white cloud.

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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 22 July 2005 at 1:23am
Trust me, play in the rain, clouds are MASSIVE. Easy to tell where they are that way.

So yeah, trust us, and dont worry about it, just have fun playing.


Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 22 July 2005 at 1:36am
the clouds will be more visible because of high humidity.

The colder rush of air, forces the humidy to condense.


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Posted By: joetheman89
Date Posted: 22 July 2005 at 10:47am
ok thanks for all your help

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98 Custom
Armson Stealth 13"
Flatline
GTA Expansion Chamber
GTA Double Trigger
Ben Tippmann Sealed Bolt
Lapco Drop
APP Sling


Posted By: mod98commando
Date Posted: 22 July 2005 at 11:35pm
Originally posted by hybrid-sniper hybrid-sniper wrote:

...No, Tippmanns in general need a tank with an 800 psi output or more...

With mods you can run lower than 800 psi. My A5 runs at around 650 psi because I have the velocity adjuster screw flush with the inside of the valve and I adjust the pressure of the reg to change my velocity. Normally, the gun does require about 800 psi to function properly but it is possible to use it at lower pressures depending on how you mod it. Just thought I should add that.



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