Flatline barrel
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Topic: Flatline barrel
Posted By: Gilaga_Demon
Subject: Flatline barrel
Date Posted: 18 July 2005 at 12:06am
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My dad and I are finally upgrading our tippmann 98s and my dad was planning on getting a a flatline barrel, but neither of us know much about them. He wants more range as long as the ball breaks. Also we both have heard they take smaller balls, if so is this much of a problem?
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 18 July 2005 at 12:09am
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Yes, they do prefer smaller balls, like Marbalizers and certain Zap products. Contrary to popular belief, the Flatline is not as picky as most people think. As long as the ball will fit the barrel's bore, they will be fine. I suggest you buy several bags of paint, starting with Marbs. Try out a bunch of different ones, and choose which one you like best and has a good cost/effectiveness ratio.
That is all I can say given that I have never used a Flatline.
EDIT- Also, you could take the barrel to your local store, and test the fit of certain balls without you having to buy any. Just open a bag and see if they fit. If they don't, move on. If they do, consider buying a bag to try them out.
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Posted By: Millslane
Date Posted: 18 July 2005 at 12:36am
ball to barrel match is key. you can't use the really cheap stuff
though, even if it fits. the ball must get stuck in the barrel. it
cannot roll through. it should drop in a few inches, maybe half way and
then you should be able to blow it out with your mouth.
you need a fairly decent quality paint because the rough texture could
rip the ball. its not really that rough, its just not smooth like
glass. marbs usually work for flatline users.
the balls will break at the distance, just like any ball will at the
max range. its does not break less just because it goes farther and
slightly slower.
you will just have to learn to keep the barrel clean, like as clean as
it was when it was brand new out of the box. you also have to have the
FPS set right. 270 fps is close to where it should be. too fast ot too
slow and it will curve.
a regulalator like the palmer is great for keeping the shot to shot
consistancy. keeping you shooting at the 270ish mark every shot. if onc
shot went strait, you probably show 270. but if the next one does not,
the FPS probably jumped high or low (usually happens when rapis
fireing) just a thought when considering the flatline.
i think you will enjoy the flatline is its maintianed well and its easy to do that. good luck
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Posted By: RoboCop
Date Posted: 18 July 2005 at 1:47am
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If you are getting discouraged from the above posts, I can see why. They make it seem hard to keep the flatline working properly. Yes they did have key points about the flatline but they made it sound harder than it is. Taking care of your flatline is just the same as a regular barrel. Just like a regular barrel, clean out the paint if you had any breaks or whatever might have gotten into the barrel. Most paint works in the flatline. I use really cheap paint in mine. If it has a good hard shell and not a squishi shell, it should work if the ball bore is medium to small(.68) I love my flatline and it is not a hassle to own.
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Posted By: Tippmann98mike
Date Posted: 18 July 2005 at 8:43am
get the flatline its great, i used zap rec series in it and it worked
fine, but i left the paint in a hot place and it got squishy, then it
didnt work to well. one thing i found, when my c02 was almost done, the
balls would just plop out of hte barrel, they wouldnt go any where, .
but that was when my tank was like 10 shots from empty. get the
flatline!
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Posted By: A-5 08
Date Posted: 18 July 2005 at 11:01am
Flatlines are great when istalled properly. Make sure the paint to barrel match is good. If you can blow the ball through that is optimal in my opinion.
HAppy Trails.
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Posted By: antman
Date Posted: 18 July 2005 at 11:52am
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I was playing with a flatline useing CO2 and it wasn't that good. Than I put on a air tank and omg it so much brtter and iI got the other poeple in like 1/2 the time!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted By: tippmann user
Date Posted: 18 July 2005 at 12:04pm
i have never heard that the faltlines prefer smaller balls i am buying the A-5 flatline and it takes the regular size balls. if the 98 FL takes smaller balls then i dont no wad to say.
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Posted By: Gilaga_Demon
Date Posted: 18 July 2005 at 12:38pm
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But do the balls break less often?
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Posted By: n6vw
Date Posted: 18 July 2005 at 12:47pm
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no the balls break the same as anyother barrel even at farther lengths
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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 18 July 2005 at 1:29pm
n6vw wrote:
no the balls break the same as anyother barrel even at farther lengths | B-i-n-g-o
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Posted By: Gilaga_Demon
Date Posted: 18 July 2005 at 3:50pm
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ok that was what my dad's biggest question was
thanks everyone
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Posted By: Mr. Heckler
Date Posted: 18 July 2005 at 7:26pm
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Wow. I can't believe you didn'tsay anything YWSM. Millslane said that paint for the Flatline shouldn't be able to roll through. That is correct for almost any other barrel, but not the Flatline. Paint for the Flatline should be able to roll right through it. Balls from the Flatline do not go any slower than any other paintball. It is a illusion, the ball is going almost perfectly flat and appears to be going slower. Keyword "appears". If you want all the information known to man about the Flatline, check out http://www.specialopspaintball.com/articles/tippmann_flatline_barrel.asp - http://www.specialopspaintball.com/articles/tippmann_flatlin e_barrel.asp
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Posted By: DrunkDriver
Date Posted: 18 July 2005 at 7:50pm
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The balls will break at the same range, barrels do not affect this. If you can get small paintballs then it is not a problem.
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Posted By: Millslane
Date Posted: 18 July 2005 at 11:43pm
mr. heckler
you do not want any the painball to be loose in the barrel of the
flatline. it its loose and has any room for play, even the tinniest
amount, the ball will "roll and bounce" back and fourth, side to side,
top to bottm, and not achieve the backspin it needs to work properly.
you need the ball to rub against the bottom of the barrel so that when
it leave the barrel, its spinning backwards. if the paintball was too
small and rolls right through, the can leave the barrel and any random
place on the tip of the barrel, while not having gathered as much
backspin spin as possible. does this make sence to you? the same thing
applies to any barrel, if the ball is allowed to leave the barrel at a
different position in the barrel than the last, it will have different
accects on where its going to fly. its doesn't take much to make a
difference.
where did you get your info about the paint to barrel match for the flatline?
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Posted By: gt 5.0
Date Posted: 19 July 2005 at 12:09am
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I'm sorry Millsane, but Heckler is right................. everyone knows that the flatline needs a smaller ball, do you have a flatline? maybe if you used a smaller ball it will work better for you .
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Posted By: Millslane
Date Posted: 19 July 2005 at 11:51am
yes i have a flatline, when i first used it, i had paint that rolled
through the barrel, accruacy was terriable. i got paint that actually
fit and it works prefect now. but its thats what tippmann says to use
then i guess i must have a fluke barrel.
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Posted By: Mr. Heckler
Date Posted: 19 July 2005 at 2:19pm
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Millslane wrote:
mr. heckler
you do not want any the painball to be loose in the barrel of the flatline. it its loose and has any room for play, even the tinniest amount, the ball will "roll and bounce" back and fourth, side to side, top to bottm, and not achieve the backspin it needs to work properly. you need the ball to rub against the bottom of the barrel so that when it leave the barrel, its spinning backwards. if the paintball was too small and rolls right through, the can leave the barrel and any random place on the tip of the barrel, while not having gathered as much backspin spin as possible. does this make sence to you? the same thing applies to any barrel, if the ball is allowed to leave the barrel at a different position in the barrel than the last, it will have different accects on where its going to fly. its doesn't take much to make a difference.
where did you get your info about the paint to barrel match for the flatline?
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Think about what you said. For the ball to achieve BACKSPIN it must roll along THE TOP of the barrel, not the bottom.
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Posted By: paint slinger
Date Posted: 19 July 2005 at 2:51pm
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if the balls to smeall you will get a minimal amount of spin where a small ball gets alot more
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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 19 July 2005 at 3:08pm
If the balls small you will have MORE spin, and may need to turn down your velocity to keep it from floating up.
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Posted By: bluemunky42
Date Posted: 19 July 2005 at 5:40pm
marbs are best but theyre god damn expensive
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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 19 July 2005 at 5:55pm
THe flatline was designed for use with marbaliers.
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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 19 July 2005 at 6:08pm
hybrid-sniper wrote:
Yes, they do prefer smaller balls, like Marbalizers and certain Zap products. Contrary to popular belief, the Flatline is not as picky as most people think. As long as the ball will fit the barrel's bore, they will be fine. I suggest you buy several bags of paint, starting with Marbs. Try out a bunch of different ones, and choose which one you like best and has a good cost/effectiveness ratio.
That is all I can say given that I have never used a Flatline.
EDIT- Also, you could take the barrel to your local store, and test the fit of certain balls without you having to buy any. Just open a bag and see if they fit. If they don't, move on. If they do, consider buying a bag to try them out. |
One main thing to point out: Paintballs are EXTREMELY important when it comes to the Flatline! You DO NOT want the balls to fit like a normal barrel!
You want the balls to be able to freely rol through the Flatline. This gives the ball god backspin without getting "hung up" and affecting accuracy or causing breaks.
As a former Flatline owner, I personally suggest against it! It's just not accurate enough! Plus, it has a lot of "quirks" that make it a pain to play with if you are a very active player.
Personally, I think the $100 you would spend on a Flatline would be better spent on one of the better barrel kits, or even a set of like 3 or 4 one-piece barrels of varying bore sizes.
IMHO, the Flatline does what it's advertised as doing, shooting farther and flatter than any barrel that is not a Flatline, but along with those advantages come a few major disadvantages that totally make the barrel not very worthwhile, at least for me.
I buy barrels for utmost accuracy, and there are barrels 1/3 the price that are more accurate, and with a wider variety of paint.
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Posted By: tigman250
Date Posted: 19 July 2005 at 9:05pm
i would recomend the flatline but i suggest you look for a used one in good condition i didn't have to look too far to find one for $40 or $45 (can't rember) best barrel purchase i ever made. alot of people buy it and install it incorrectly (although i don't know how) and don't like it and are willing to sell it for less than half of what they paid for it. just a little FYI
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Posted By: twistedkev1990
Date Posted: 19 July 2005 at 9:43pm
if all of that didnt help you, search on the forum there are tons of these threads.
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Posted By: Gilaga_Demon
Date Posted: 20 July 2005 at 1:58am
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 20 July 2005 at 3:01am
Just for the record, not everyone that doesn't like it had it installed incorrectly.
I had the A5 version, which is basically impossible to install incorrectly, and I still didn't like it....it just is inherrantly not as accurate as other standard barrels, plus it has a lot of other "quirks" that are hard for some players to overcome.
Actually sold it to Kreeper-X, the pimp owns some of my gear!
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Posted By: Lil' Joe Boogie
Date Posted: 20 July 2005 at 8:33am
Gilaga_Demon - see what you started. Save the fights for the field.
Kidding!
I have the flatline for My A-5 and I love it. It depends on you. My experience is as long as I can blow the ball threw it then it will do fine. And yes, I use marbles. I use my flatline most of the time just for the fact that I love the range and the accuracy is good enough for what I want. The only time I don't use the FL is when I play certain scenario games. My cousin has the flatline as well for his 98C. He has no complaints. The balls break just as easy.
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Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 20 July 2005 at 9:27am
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There are better barrels out for the 98C than the flatline. Yes it shoots farther but on a long ball shot ya better hit something hard. Also after so many balls the barrel has to be polished at tippmann. I never had to do this with mine but they do need refurbishing after a certain amount of paint has been shot through it.
May I suggest other barrels that are cheaper and guieter. J-J Ceramic, All American or Stiffi dont go over 14" in length.
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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 20 July 2005 at 1:08pm
I'm personally all about the LAPCO barrels.
I also wouldm't mind having a nice 10", .693 bored Custom Products. I like barrels with minimal porting.
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Posted By: Gilaga_Demon
Date Posted: 21 July 2005 at 2:20am
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alot of guys have told us to go with the j&j cause they r pretty good and cheap
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Posted By: Gilaga_Demon
Date Posted: 21 July 2005 at 2:25am
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o ya my dad decided to go with an a5 mp5
but we r gonna make his 98c a machine gun with a tri pod
lol i forgot what gun we were gonna model it ofter but its gonna be cool we r gonna make our own hopper out of a milk jug so it can have alot of ammo lol i hope it works maybe ill make a new topic about it in the future if it works out
the paintball group we play with made a tank out of a 4 wheeler and we played with that at the weekend camp we go to if anyone is near mitchel nebraska pm me and ill tell u when the next camp is cause we need more people.................right now we only have 16 or so but anyway ill maybe post a few pics of the tank next time i see it maybe at the end of the month
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