More range on 98c?
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Topic: More range on 98c?
Posted By: senseless228
Subject: More range on 98c?
Date Posted: 25 July 2005 at 7:31pm
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this is my gun
98c 14" tear drop tippmann x-chamber kit drop forward now my question is, the range on this is pretty bad compared to the automatic speed ball guns out there on woods fields, and i was wondering why that is? the velocity is the same (we have to be below 290fps, and i'm around 285) and none of those guns have the flatline or anything. so i was wondering how is it that they're range is about twice as far before the ball starts to drop down. Please dont tell me to go with a flatline barrel. I'm wondering the reasoning for this huge difference in range. ------------- "religion is opiate for the masses" ~Karl Marx |
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Posted By: rossy11223
Date Posted: 25 July 2005 at 7:35pm
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Get a flatline
Just kidding. All the ranges should be the same, maybe your gun has something wrong with it. The valve maybe? Check to make sure you don't have any leaks. |
Posted By: senseless228
Date Posted: 25 July 2005 at 7:42pm
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but i mean, its not just me, most of my friends with tippmanns are always saying that they have no range compared to an autococker. could it be something else, like low-pressure systems, or using nitro instead of co2? ------------- "religion is opiate for the masses" ~Karl Marx |
Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 25 July 2005 at 8:24pm
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Your friends are idiots. Elementary physics, 2 objects flying at the same speed will go the same distance. If you are shooting the same velocity, you shoot the same range. End of story. ------------- 
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Posted By: rossy11223
Date Posted: 25 July 2005 at 9:29pm
| Ok. I see now. You didn't actually see them outshoot you. They just told you that. Like Enos said, your friends don't seem to be so smart. |
Posted By: Millslane
Date Posted: 25 July 2005 at 10:56pm
get a flatline to add range ------------- www.pbteamwow.com |
rossy11223 wrote:Posted By: supergman
Date Posted: 27 July 2005 at 12:49am
| Don't listen to your friends. I have an A-5 w/ a 14 in. All American and I can shoot just as far, if not a little farther than my friend's cocker. |
Posted By: duffer1497
Date Posted: 28 July 2005 at 12:23am
| toss out that stock barrel get a flatline or a 16 in ceramic i have both you cant go wrong with either AND TAKE THOSE BALLS YOU BOUGHT AT WALMART (the tony the tiger ones) AND THROW THEM OUT |
Posted By: tippy279
Date Posted: 29 July 2005 at 1:06pm
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Enos Shenk, thats not true unless you factor out spin. If the balls coming out of the Tippmanns have topspin then they are gonna send the balls straight to the ground. If the autocockers are shooting with no spin or backspin then it will have a longer range. Spin has to be factored in. ------------- My guns name is Mr. Max in remembrance of my dog that got hit by a car: Tippmann A-5 Ricochet R-5 JCS double Trigger Tippmann E-Grip Flatline Barrel Do you have the need for speed? |
Posted By: Liquid3
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 8:38pm
You're correct, but I think he means a little more of the all things
being equal deal. Most barrels out there don't try and produce much
spin. There you go again, thinkin on your feet and callin people on
stuff. A mod even.   
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Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 9:19pm
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With a good barrel fit, there will be no spin (unless you are using a Flatline). No matter which gun you are shooting. But here is a reason why your range is a LITTLE less than the electros and cockers: Consistency. You chrono in at 285, 275, 270, 289, 279, 280. The DM5 (or w/e) chronos in at 289, 288, 289, 287, 289, 288. So the DM5 is shooting average velocity of 288, and you are shooting average velocity of 280 or so. So, on the average, the DM5 will have a little more range than you. But that is just a little, unless your gun is really inconsistent. Better guns have better consistency, which has all kinds of advantages. But the idea that a gun can generally shoot further than another, at the same velocity, is simply false - barring a Flatline or similar device. Physics is the great equalizer. ------------- [IMG]http://i38.tinypic.com/aag8s8.jpg"> |
Posted By: HeadshotJester
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 9:26pm
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Or the guys could have upped there velocity? ------------- http://imageshack.us"> 
Vote for Stewie! |
Posted By: Bruce A. Frank
Date Posted: 01 August 2005 at 10:54pm
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If the velocity is the same the only difference is how high you elevate the muzzle of the marker. There can be no difference. Once the ball leaves the barrel at 285fps, whether it leaves the barrel of a Tippmann or an Angel, it slows down at exactly the same rate. If a ball is fired from each marker at the same velocity, at 100 feet both will be exactly the same. The weight of the paintball can make a slight difference. Or your fellow players with their fancy guns are using fancy ramping programs in the electronic controls...not actually shooting 290 fps once off the chronograph and onto the field. |
Posted By: solxion
Date Posted: 03 August 2005 at 11:47pm
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match up paint to your barrel,start with marbalizers.polish your internals for consistency.
get a j&j ceramic barrel just in case the field paint or weather changes paint size. ------------- 98c/rt,12" j&j pro-1,java coiled remote to 20 oz,eggy II,spee-t-cocker,ghetto fab stock(homebrew),pgp2k1. 
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Posted By: CIA356
Date Posted: 04 August 2005 at 3:55am
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Posted By: ^Pirate^
Date Posted: 04 August 2005 at 5:11am
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Either get a flatline or do the flatline mod...
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It aint about black or white becuz we human I hope we see the light before it's ruined My ghetto gospel |
Posted By: ares
Date Posted: 04 August 2005 at 11:58am
| I have had the same problem. try oiling it. if it is under warrenty measure the range and if it is under 150 ft, send it in. The range should only drop when the air is low. Did you get your gun new or factory refurbished? |
Posted By: Millslane
Date Posted: 04 August 2005 at 12:51pm
you don't mean oil the barrel do you? cause you should not do that. but you should be oiling your marker. dry fire to spread the oil with the barrel off. ------------- www.pbteamwow.com |
Posted By: woodzballer08
Date Posted: 04 August 2005 at 3:46pm
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put some oil in your xchamber and dry fire it a couple of time and test it again ------------- Getting bunkered is like having sex in prision; it will happen weather you like it or not. |
Posted By: S\/\/4T-L()G4N
Date Posted: 04 August 2005 at 6:30pm
Haha. I don't even know what to say to this. ------------- 
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Posted By: ares
Date Posted: 04 August 2005 at 7:24pm
| of course you shouldn't oil the barrel. follow the insturctions in the manual. I am not a moron. |
Posted By: Sargent Duck
Date Posted: 04 August 2005 at 8:55pm
| Don't forget the air/CO2 part. CO2 is prone to spikes (shoot 285, then 295, down to 275 and so on). Air will not give you this problem, as it will shoot a constant velocity. I've noticed that shooting my Tippy 98 versus ions and stuff. My Palmers stabilzer this sunday should fix the problem I think. |
Posted By: TuF^yoda
Date Posted: 05 August 2005 at 8:19pm
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seriously get a flatline end of question no flatlines kick  its fun watching ppl with the $1000 guns wasteing all there paint and watching it roll past your feet then nailing them in the chest------------- Peace through superior firepower! |