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Topic: ebolt question
Posted By: pooperscooper
Subject: ebolt question
Date Posted: 27 July 2005 at 12:22pm
if i had a palmers stabilizer could i use co2 with the ebolt?

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Posted By: FyreFly
Date Posted: 27 July 2005 at 1:38pm
Sure, if you wanted to.   Better make it anti-siphon too though just to be
sure your not gonna freeze your gun at high rates of fire!



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Tippmann A-5 E-Grip & LPK
Tippmann 98C Flatline & LPK


Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 27 July 2005 at 1:41pm
Yes, you could.

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E-Grip
JCS Dual Trigger
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Lapco Bigshot 14" Beadblasted

Optional setup:
R/T
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Posted By: rossy11223
Date Posted: 27 July 2005 at 2:11pm
Originally posted by You Wont See Me You Wont See Me wrote:

Yes, you could.


Posted By: 98cowboy
Date Posted: 27 July 2005 at 6:51pm

The stab isnt going to make a difference when it comes to your noid, because the air goes from your tank to the noid via the lpr not your stabilizer.  The stabilizer will only keep liquid out of the valve.  You better get it siphoned thats the only thing thats going to keep you from messing it up beyond repair.  Or just get a HPA tank.

You better heed to my advice if you dont want a 200 dollar mistake.



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Posted By: bravecoward
Date Posted: 27 July 2005 at 6:53pm

or get the female tabilizer then the rock regulator but that would be the same prica as hpa soo

and hpa has a faster recharge rate



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Posted By: Bruce A. Frank
Date Posted: 27 July 2005 at 11:40pm

Originally posted by pooperscooper pooperscooper wrote:

if i had a palmers stabilizer could i use co2 with the ebolt?

You can use CO2 with the E-Bolt without the Palmer. 



Posted By: Pocket Lint
Date Posted: 27 July 2005 at 11:46pm
whats so good about the e-bolt, i hear a lot about it, but dont know exactly what it does.


Posted By: MoNkeY Hunter
Date Posted: 28 July 2005 at 12:13am

    Its the most bad ass upgrade aviable for the 98 custom you can spend 1,345$ for a dm5 or spend about at most 350$ on a ebolt and it will hold its own in woods or on air ball couse, or make it even better by geting  hpa and a stableizer or lpk the only prob is there very difficult to find, I wish i was rich.



Posted By: pooperscooper
Date Posted: 28 July 2005 at 9:30am
i cant get hpa right now, so i might go with the female stailizer.

how does the hose that goes into the noid hook up to the asa?

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Posted By: Bruce A. Frank
Date Posted: 28 July 2005 at 11:33am

Originally posted by Pocket Lint Pocket Lint wrote:

whats so good about the e-bolt, i hear a lot about it, but don't know exactly what it does.

It converts your 98 C to an electro-pneumatic marker that will lay paint like an Angel. It eliminates the heavy hammer slamming back and forth in the receiver. It also allows you to make other mods to the marker, since you no longer need the excess gas to blow the hammer back into cocked position, to reduce operating pressures to less than 200 psi while still maintaining ball velocity. The 98C gets quiet. With the right barrel (good porting) you can cut the noise of the shot to the point that it cannot be heard 100 feet away.

There are still E-Bolts out there on Ebay for less than $150 (they cost nearly $300 when Tippmann was still stocking them).

 



Posted By: FyreFly
Date Posted: 28 July 2005 at 1:39pm
Originally posted by pooperscooper pooperscooper wrote:

i cant get hpa right now, so i might go with the
female stailizer.

how does the hose that goes into the noid hook up to the asa?


It uses an LPR. So you'll need another regulator hooked up to your asa.

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System X NME LE
WGP Orracle Cocker
Tippmann A-5 E-Grip & LPK
Tippmann 98C Flatline & LPK


Posted By: tippmann505
Date Posted: 28 July 2005 at 7:21pm

Originally posted by FyreFly FyreFly wrote:

 

It uses an LPR. So you'll need another regulator hooked up to your asa.

 

yes it does use an lpr but u do not need to hook up another reg to the asa.  all u need to do is screw in a tank. the lpr then uses part of that air, regulates it down to about 100 psi then sends it to the solenoid. but the majority of it is sent to the valve



Posted By: pooperscooper
Date Posted: 28 July 2005 at 10:12pm
what do u mean lpr?

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Posted By: tippmann505
Date Posted: 28 July 2005 at 10:43pm
lpr = low pressure regulator


Posted By: pooperscooper
Date Posted: 28 July 2005 at 10:59pm
ok buthow does the hose actually getout of the regulator?

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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 28 July 2005 at 11:00pm
The hose goes into the regulator, the regulator is connected to your gun.

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E-Grip
JCS Dual Trigger
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Optional setup:
R/T
Dead on Blade trigger


Posted By: pooperscooper
Date Posted: 28 July 2005 at 11:03pm
ya i know but is there some way like to hook the hose into a palmers stabilizer?

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Posted By: FyreFly
Date Posted: 29 July 2005 at 1:08am
I think you need to start over again. Because this makes absolutely no
sense.

What are you trying to do?

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System X NME LE
WGP Orracle Cocker
Tippmann A-5 E-Grip & LPK
Tippmann 98C Flatline & LPK


Posted By: RoboCop
Date Posted: 29 July 2005 at 1:15am

Well, you would need a fiting to get the hose from the noid into the lpr. It would just slip onto the fitting.



Posted By: bravecoward
Date Posted: 29 July 2005 at 3:28am

the big block thing is a low pressure regulator it has a hose that goes to a board in the grip, since the grip cant tank 850 psi the low pressure regulator lowers the psi to around 100 so it doenst blow the selenoid, if you want to use a palmer stabilizer you will need some kind of lpr that can hook up to it, i think the rock regualtor for palmer pursuit will work.

 

pm me for further instructions



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Posted By: pooperscooper
Date Posted: 29 July 2005 at 9:20am
ok what i wnted to do was use a male palmers stabilizer and find a way to get the co2 out of the palmers into the grip and i didn't know if i would be able to get the hose out of the palmers without any extra parts.

so i could hook a lpr into the palmers where a guage is supposed to go and run the line back into the grip?

this would look like this:


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Posted By: Bruce A. Frank
Date Posted: 29 July 2005 at 12:58pm

Originally posted by pooperscooper pooperscooper wrote:

OK what i wanted to do was use a male Palmer's stabilizer and find a way to get the CO2 out of the Palmer's into the grip and i didn't know if i would be able to get the hose out of the Palmer's without any extra parts.

so i could hook a lpr into the Palmer's where a gage is supposed to go and run the line back into the grip?

this would look like this:

OK, let's see if someone can understand what is going on. The Palmer doesn't supply the LP gas to to solenoid on the board for the E-Bolt. The Palmer Stabilizer provides LP gas only to the marker. The LP gas supplied to the solenoid on the board comes from a small regulator built into the ASA supplied with the E-Bolt kit. The pressure supplied to the solenoid is lower than that supplied to the marker. The solenoid valve on the board, if you look up specs on such valve types on the Internet, is designed to operate at 100 psi or less. The Stabilizer, if adjusted low enough to be able to supply the gas to operate the solenoid valve would not be able to propel the paintball down the field.

If, when installing the E-Bolt you want to retain the ASA that you are using rather than the one Tippmann supplied with the kit, you will have to add a Palmer micro-rock regulator to supply gas just to the solenoid for the E-Bolt. Look closely at the picture below and you will see the micro-rock connected the the small gass line going into the grip.



Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 29 July 2005 at 1:07pm
Bruce, you are a god.

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A-5
E-Grip
JCS Dual Trigger
DOP X-CORE 8 stage x-chamber
Lapco Bigshot 14" Beadblasted

Optional setup:
R/T
Dead on Blade trigger


Posted By: FyreFly
Date Posted: 29 July 2005 at 3:52pm
Originally posted by pooperscooper pooperscooper wrote:

ok what i wnted to do was use a male palmers
stabilizer and find a way to get the co2 out of the palmers into the grip
and i didn't know if i would be able to get the hose out of the palmers
without any extra parts.

so i could hook a lpr into the palmers where a guage is supposed to go
and run the line back into the grip?


You don't need to do all that. Like Bruce showed, some ASA's have two
outputs on them, one to feed the stabilizer, and another that you can
attach the Rock reg to inorder to supply the solenoid.


EDIT: The way you have it pictured, seems like it could work, but if your
gonna buy a Rock reg anway, you can just attach it directly to the ASA.

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System X NME LE
WGP Orracle Cocker
Tippmann A-5 E-Grip & LPK
Tippmann 98C Flatline & LPK


Posted By: pooperscooper
Date Posted: 29 July 2005 at 7:25pm
ya but i want a male too and i think it would look better how i have it in the pic than if it was on the asa. but it might be hard to find a hose that long...

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Posted By: FyreFly
Date Posted: 29 July 2005 at 8:00pm
Its not hard to find microline. Also keep in mind that your stab is gonna
act as your front grip and you don't want the rock to get in the way.

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System X NME LE
WGP Orracle Cocker
Tippmann A-5 E-Grip & LPK
Tippmann 98C Flatline & LPK


Posted By: pooperscooper
Date Posted: 29 July 2005 at 8:29pm
oh i didn't know it was micro line.

i know the stab might get in the way for some people but i hold the grip farther down. it would get in the way as much as a gauge would, so that wouldnt be too bad.

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Posted By: 98cowboy
Date Posted: 29 July 2005 at 9:27pm
Your just making things way more difficult than they have to be.

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Posted By: pooperscooper
Date Posted: 29 July 2005 at 10:31pm
ya...
i guess it would be easier to put it on the asa...


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Posted By: Bruce A. Frank
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 3:49am

Originally posted by pooperscooper pooperscooper wrote:

ya...
i guess it would be easier to put it on the asa...

It is just plumbing. There are dozens of fittings to put it together any way you'd like. I wouldn't recommend macro-line. I have seen too many blow during the course of play. I have never, ever seen the steel braided hose fail.



Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 4:06am
Originally posted by pooperscooper pooperscooper wrote:

oh i didn't know it was micro line.


it isn't. Its pneumatic tubing. Same as a cocker front block.


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Posted By: pooperscooper
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 10:27am
oh i didn't think that looked like microline in the pictures...

i have used macroline on my gun for like a year and its never even leaked...

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Posted By: Bruce A. Frank
Date Posted: 31 July 2005 at 2:34am

Originally posted by pooperscooper pooperscooper wrote:

oh i didn't think that looked like macroline in the pictures...

i have used macroline on my gun for like a year and its never even leaked...

Come to think of it I have never seen them leak either...they just blow off and empty the tank. Saw another do that Friday night. Player dove for the snake. When he hit the deck it made so much racket that it stopped the game.

Come to think of it, got a friend with an Angle. He is constantly having to reinsert the tube into th fittings to try to stop leaks.




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