Battlefield2
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Topic: Battlefield2
Posted By: eMike
Subject: Battlefield2
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 3:25am
Anyone know when its going to come out for OS X?
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Posted By: Mehs
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 3:30am
It probably won't because EA Games sucks.
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Posted By: Hitman
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 3:42am
The new mod looks quite sweet. The battles will take place at night.
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Posted By: eMike
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 3:44am
Pffff. That whole game looks quite sweet.
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Posted By: newport
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 4:22am
I'm thinking about getting it. Anyone else on the forum play it?
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Posted By: Radix
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 4:49am
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dont buy it!!!!!!!!!!!! buy counter strike source instead its way better
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Posted By: NotDaveEllis
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 4:53am
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I do Newport, and CSS sucks compared to BF2
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Posted By: newport
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 4:59am
Sorry Radix, but Dave owns my heart. I'm getting BF2
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Posted By: Funky
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 10:46am
I also own said game of battle.
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Posted By: blandpart2
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 10:51am
Funky wrote:
I also own said game of battle.
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Posted By: Fat Stalin
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 11:06am
eMike wrote:
Anyone know when its going to come out for OS X?
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Have any of the other Battlefield games been on Mac? Also, could your emac even run battlefield 2?
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Posted By: rossy11223
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 11:10am
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I only have the demo and it is quite sweet. If I had the money and liked computer gaming, I would buy it.
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Posted By: Bounty
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 11:55am
Posted By: WGP guy
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 11:58am
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Anyone know when its comin out for linux? Or does it already have a linux version with the windows one.
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Posted By: Frozen Balls
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 12:21pm
Fat Stalin wrote:
eMike wrote:
Anyone know when its going to come out for OS X?
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Have any of the other Battlefield games been on Mac? Also, could your emac even run battlefield 2?
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His emac could run it, and run it extremely well.
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Posted By: pb125
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 1:40pm
WGP guy wrote:
Anyone know when its comin out for linux? Or does it already have a linux version with the windows one.
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We get it , you have Linux. And from what I hear, a crappy distro.
No one cares!
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Posted By: eMike
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 1:43pm
Frozen Balls wrote:
Fat Stalin wrote:
eMike wrote:
Anyone know when its going to come out for OS X?
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Have any of the other Battlefield games been on Mac? Also, could your emac even run battlefield 2?
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His emac could run it, and run it extremely well.
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Fat Stalin, Battlefield has come out for OS X on most of its previous
versions. I just saw the Spec Requirements, It seems my eMac
would run it very nicely.
Oh and who ever said CS:S is better than BF2, you're an idiot.
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Posted By: xteam
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 2:27pm
its an awesome game. the mods that are comin out for it are insane.
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 3:16pm
Fat Stalin wrote:
eMike wrote:
Anyone know when its going to come out for OS X?
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Have any of the other Battlefield games been on Mac? Also, could your emac even run battlefield 2?
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Haha, nice try Fat Stalin, his mac would run it beautifully.
I've looked it up before, and it seems that there are no plans to release it on OSX. Things could change though.
and Radix, no, source is not better.
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Posted By: Fat Stalin
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 4:02pm
- Minimum Specification:
CPU: 1.7 Ghz
RAM: 512 Mb
Video Card: http://www.computing.net/gaming/wwwboard/forum/4658.html#" style="border-bottom: 1px solid darkgreen; text-decoration: underline; color: darkgreen; background-color: transparent;" class="iAs - NVidia GeForce FX 5700, http://www.computing.net/gaming/wwwboard/forum/4658.html#" style="border-bottom: 1px solid darkgreen; text-decoration: underline; color: darkgreen; background-color: transparent;" class="iAs - ATI Radeon 8500 or ATI Radeon 9500
with 128 http://www.computing.net/gaming/wwwboard/forum/4658.html#" style="border-bottom: 1px solid darkgreen; text-decoration: underline; color: darkgreen; background-color: transparent;" class="iAs - Mb of RAM
Blistering 3D Effects
To power eMac’s brilliant CRT, we’ve included an ATI Radeon 9600
graphics processor with 64MB of dedicated video memory — twice as much
as previous eMac models. The Radeon processor offers dazzling 2D, 3D
and video performance, a feature you’ll really appreciate when editing
footage in iMovie HD or while playing Halo.
...? 
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Posted By: xteam
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 4:05pm
you're still wrong.
it'll run it. but not on all high settings.
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Posted By: Bolt3
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 4:05pm
WGP guy wrote:
Anyone know when its comin out for linux? Or does it already have a linux version with the windows one.
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Nerd.
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Posted By: Fat Stalin
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 4:05pm
MINIMUM SPECS is 128mb video card. The eMac is 64. MINIMUM.
Here you can find the Battlefield 2 system
requirements given to us by DICE:
Target Minimum Specification Machine:
1.7 Ghz CPU
512 Megabytes of RAM 128 MB video card (must support 1.4 shaders)
Recommended Specification Machine:
2.66 Ghz CPU
1024 Megabytes of RAM
256 MB video card
Blistering 3D Effects
To power eMac’s brilliant CRT, we’ve included an ATI Radeon 9600
graphics processor with 64MB of dedicated video memory — twice as much
as previous eMac models. The Radeon processor offers dazzling 2D, 3D
and video performance, a feature you’ll really appreciate when editing
footage in iMovie HD or while playing Halo.
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 4:06pm
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And you can build your mac to order, for better performance. Fat Stalin, I know it wasnt an eMac, but you know about the G5's at the xbox 360 demo right?
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Posted By: Bolt3
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 4:06pm
So like, ... buy a new card then?
My dad just got a Dell Dimesion 8400 Desktop and it runs Battlefield 2 great.
1 gb. of ram and some cool card that has a cool name, yo.
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Posted By: Fat Stalin
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 4:07pm
Yes. An eMac isn't a G5. A G5 can have a 6800 ultra.. Also, the eMac
can't have more than a 64 mb graphics card. It isn't an option. I
checked,
Lol, upgrade a mac.
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Posted By: Bolt3
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 4:09pm
Why don't you just like pop in the BF2 CD and try it.
The worst that could happen is your computer crashing like my labtop.
Even if it says for windows only.
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Posted By: Fat Stalin
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 4:10pm
I'm done with this thread.
No options Choop.
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 4:10pm
Oh, and also, I remember reading about how Battlefield 2 has system reqirements far above what's neccisary. They raised the bar without needing to. Look at half life 2, better graphics, but lower graphic requirements. So yes, the requirements may be higher, but it seems t's unnecisary. I'm looking for an article now.
As one person put it:
"The thing barely runs on my 6600GT and still looks pretty bad. (Compared to other games like HL2 and Farcry)
Very badly written engine IMO."
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Posted By: xteam
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 4:12pm
minimum doesnt mean anything. you havent played enough game to figure that out i guess. trun down the resolution and the game settings and you can run it on basically any computer made in the last 4 years.
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Posted By: Fat Stalin
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 4:12pm
Didn't that contradict yourself. You just siad that the required specs
are higher than necessary and then you just say it runs bad on my
6600gt.
xteam wrote:
minimum doesnt mean anything. you havent played enough
game to figure that out i guess. trun down the resolution and the game
settings and you can run it on basically any computer made in the last
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You really want to run it on 640/480? Go ahead.
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 4:12pm
What's that pic proving Fat Stalin?
Fat Stalin wrote:
Lol, upgrade a mac.
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lol, I have....
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Posted By: Fat Stalin
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 4:13pm
choopie911 wrote:
What's that pic proving Fat Stalin?
Fat Stalin wrote:
Lol, upgrade a mac.
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lol, I have.... |
choopie911 wrote:
And you can build your mac to order, for better
performance. Fat Stalin, I know it wasnt an eMac, but you know about
the G5's at the xbox 360 demo right? |
It's proving you can't upgrade that at their website.
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 4:13pm
Fat Stalin wrote:
Didn't that contradict yourself. You just siad that the required specs
are higher than necessary and then you just say it runs bad on my
6600gt.
xteam wrote:
minimum doesnt mean anything. you havent played enough
game to figure that out i guess. trun down the resolution and the game
settings and you can run it on basically any computer made in the last
4 years. |
You really want to run it on 640/480? Go ahead.
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Read what I said. I said they made the min requirements too high. They could have made them lower, but instead it came out as "NO, only these cards work!!!" If you look at the game graphicly, it's lower than many other games that work fine on lower cards.
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 4:15pm
Fat Stalin wrote:
choopie911 wrote:
What's that pic proving Fat Stalin?
Fat Stalin wrote:
Lol, upgrade a mac.
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lol, I have.... |
choopie911 wrote:
And you can build your mac to order, for better
performance. Fat Stalin, I know it wasnt an eMac, but you know about
the G5's at the xbox 360 demo right? |
It's proving you can't upgrade that at their website.
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Am I smoking crack, or does that picture show you the ability to upgrade the memory, right there?
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Posted By: Bolt3
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 4:15pm
Fat Stalin, just stop now while your losing.
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Posted By: Fat Stalin
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 4:15pm
Why wouldn't they make them lower? Appeal to more people and rake in more cash. Doesn't make sense..
It does. But you said your mac is built to order and I'm saying that's
the only thing you can upgrade. I was showing the memory because when
you customize a laptop, you upgrade the video memory in the memory
section.
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 4:18pm
EA seems to have a hardon for nvidea, and by making the rewuirements higher, people have to do what? Buy more crap.
Look it up Fat Stalin, people are complaining far and wide that the requirements are unnecisarly high.
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Posted By: xteam
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 4:18pm
choopie911 wrote:
Fat Stalin wrote:
Didn't that contradict yourself. You just siad that the required specs
are higher than necessary and then you just say it runs bad on my
6600gt.
xteam wrote:
minimum doesnt mean anything. you havent played enough
game to figure that out i guess. trun down the resolution and the game
settings and you can run it on basically any computer made in the last
4 years. |
You really want to run it on 640/480? Go ahead.
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Read what I said. I said they made the min requirements too high. They could have made them lower, but instead it came out as "NO, only these cards work!!!" If you look at the game graphicly, it's lower than many other games that work fine on lower cards. |
im not against you chewp, but most people haven't seen this game on insane quality and all the other good stuff on. this game is a hell of alot more graphically advanced than half life 2 or doom 3 or farcry.
the cool thing about this game is that even on low setting it doesnt look half bad.
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Posted By: Fat Stalin
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 4:19pm
As a PC Gamer you expect to upgrade, you expect that at some point your hardware will not run the latest games acceptably. http://www.eagames.com/official/battlefield/battlefield2/us/home.jsp - Battlefield 2
does not even give you that option. It attempts to make all non DirectX
9 compatible video cards obsolete. Which means all GeForce 4 and older
video cards will not run Battlefield 2. You cannot even start up the
menu. Neither Electronic Arts nor the game's developer http://global.dice.se/ - DICE
have any plans to fix this. Even though the GeForce 4 line of video
cards has enough horsepower to render the game it is not compatible
with Pixel Shader 1.4. Emulation to Pixel Shader 1.3 would easily make
the game playable on these cards but redundant texture checks make this
difficult to implement. |
"We've been talking to Benjamin Smith on the development
team about this. There are no plans to implement GeForce 4 support in a
patch. The engine was not built to run acceptably (performance or
appearance-wise) on the GeForce 4 series of cards." |
http://poptech.blogspot.com/2005/06/battlefield-2-video-ca rd-controversy.html
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 4:20pm
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I've seen it on it's highest too, and I still say that HL2 is far more impressive. Heck, the opening scene to WoW (I know it's just a cutscene, doesnt really count) made me drop my pants in amazement, and it was running on.....an eMac!!!
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Posted By: Fat Stalin
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 4:21pm
That you upgraded.
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Posted By: Frozen Balls
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 4:25pm
It's safe to say that you know nothing about macs.
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 4:25pm
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Nope, wasnt needed. Fat Stalin, you also just proved my point. They opted to use the new pixelshader, which they sated, due to redundant actions, made it impossible for other cards to work. IE, 1.3 would have worked, since the new actions were redundant. Then you went and proved yourself wrong, you were sayng it wouldnt make sense for them to make the requirements higher than neccisary, so more people could play...but they opted to go with 1.4 to wipe out the other lines of cards....dropping the number of those who were compatable.
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Posted By: Fat Stalin
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 4:26pm
Frozen Balls wrote:
It's safe to say that you know nothing about macs.
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I got lost in that post. How did I prove myself wrong? I realize they
went with 1.4 but all I said is that it wouldn't make sense. Maybe ATI
and Nvidia pay them off when people buy the newer cards.
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 4:27pm
Fat Stalin wrote:
Frozen Balls wrote:
It's safe to say that you know nothing about macs.
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Um, no.... anyone here who owns a mac with OS X would be on this side too. It's true Fat Stalin, and until you experience it, you wont know.
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Posted By: Fat Stalin
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 4:29pm
Well if it's released for OSX, I'd love to see a screenshot of it
running in playable conditions. I'm just going by what the specs are..
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 4:34pm
Look up the Dual G5, and look at the screens from xbox 360...
Or wait, here:
http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows/showdoc.aspx?i=2420&p=5 - http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows/showdoc.aspx?i=2420&p=5
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 4:40pm
choopie911 wrote:
Look up the Dual G5, and look at the screens from xbox 360...
Or wait, here:
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Um, yeah i deffinatly just thoght that was just some random guy for a couple seconds.
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Posted By: Fat Stalin
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 4:45pm
choopie911 wrote:
Look up the Dual G5, and look at the screens from xbox 360...
Or wait, here:
http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows/showdoc.aspx?i=2420&p=5 - http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows/showdoc.aspx?i=2420& p=5 |
I already told you I knew about them. But were those even playable
demos? A video clip is a lot easier to run than a playable demo. Also,
I'm not against Macs or anything. I know the G5 can have a 6800ultra..
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 4:47pm
I figured by this pic:
You'd know it was playable.
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Posted By: Fat Stalin
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 4:56pm
Games like Top Spin 2 and Need for Speed were
playable, but for some reason they didn't actually look all that great
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Note the aliasing in this screenshot...the Xbox 360 GPU is supposed to have AA enabled at all times... |
Were you trying to prove that Apple's were capable? Or what? I never got how they tied in with the eMac discussion.
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 4:59pm
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This has nothing to do with eMac, you said you'd like to see it run on a OSX, and I said it'd do fine. You don't seem to see what macs are capable of, and we're filling you in.
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Posted By: Fat Stalin
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 5:02pm
Oh you misunderstood what I said or I wasn't specific enough. I said
when it is released for OSX (It meaning BF2) I would like to see a
screenshot of it. I wanted to see a screenshot of Mike's eMac running
it.
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 5:13pm
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It doesnt sound like it will be released for OSX, as I said before
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Posted By: Snipa69
Date Posted: 31 July 2005 at 4:22am
I play BF2, It's awesome. It forced me to buy a new graphics card though, but oh well
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Posted By: newport
Date Posted: 31 July 2005 at 4:27am
I've got a hardon for chicken teriyaki rice bowls right now.
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Posted By: Funky
Date Posted: 31 July 2005 at 10:31am
Alright, lets clear some of this garbage up.
First of all, you're all idiots. With that said.
Choopie, it's great that microsoft was using Macs to run the new Xbox
games, what you don't realize is that they were all running with
framerate drops, so your almighty Mac wasn't being the best it could be.
Secondly, the main topic of discussion.
I do think that the Mac could run Battlefield 2 (if it ever gets
released.. mac gaming har har), but not at anything higher than
800/600, heck, 640/480 might be the only playable resolution.
Since you'll need atleast 30fps minimum for first person shooters to be
somewhat playable. Even with a computer like mine that's slightly
over each minimum requirement, I play everything on low at 800/600 and
still get some frame drops.
Sure, the emac has a 9600, but it's the barebones 9600, it doesn't have
the clockspeeds of the pro or xt models, and the bottleneck at this
level for the game is the video card.
The amount of memory on the videocard isn't the end of the world, as it will still run, but again, not well.
Lastly, lets cut the chatter until the game is actually released on
Mac. Until then, I'll keep my eyes to the sky for some pigs.
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Posted By: xteam
Date Posted: 31 July 2005 at 10:44am
Funky wrote:
Until then, I'll keep my eyes to the sky for some pigs. |
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Posted By: xteam
Date Posted: 31 July 2005 at 10:59am
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Posted By: Fat Stalin
Date Posted: 31 July 2005 at 11:10am
Funky wrote:
Alright, lets clear some of this garbage up.
First of all, you're all idiots. With that said.
Choopie, it's great that microsoft was using Macs to run the new Xbox
games, what you don't realize is that they were all running with
framerate drops, so your almighty Mac wasn't being the best it could be.
Secondly, the main topic of discussion.
I do think that the Mac could run Battlefield 2 (if it ever gets
released.. mac gaming har har), but not at anything higher than
800/600, heck, 640/480 might be the only playable resolution.
Since you'll need atleast 30fps minimum for first person shooters to be
somewhat playable. Even with a computer like mine that's slightly
over each minimum requirement, I play everything on low at 800/600 and
still get some frame drops.
Sure, the emac has a 9600, but it's the barebones 9600, it doesn't have
the clockspeeds of the pro or xt models, and the bottleneck at this
level for the game is the video card.
The amount of memory on the videocard isn't the end of the world, as it will still run, but again, not well.
Lastly, lets cut the chatter until the game is actually released on
Mac. Until then, I'll keep my eyes to the sky for some pigs.
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I bow down to Funky. He summarized my 20 posts into 1.
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 31 July 2005 at 12:15pm
I was rather disappointed with the game.... To many issuse arose while I played the game. Also there were some idiotic design flaws that maked the game unimpressive. Some of the patches and mods still havent fixed the problems yet. It gets a low score with me. I would recommend not getting it. I even upgraded my Videocard for this game and was dissapointed. Good thing I didnt buy the game or I would be even more upset with it.
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