R/T Trigger uses more Air?
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Topic: R/T Trigger uses more Air?
Posted By: A5hitmann
Subject: R/T Trigger uses more Air?
Date Posted: 08 August 2005 at 9:45am
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I was wondering if the R/T Trigger on the A5 uses up air quicker then a stock or e-trigger? (Talking HPA for air) I have heard players at the field I go to say since they went with the E-trigger they get more shots per tank. I have been considering going to an E-trigger or just to a stock (I am not into shooting fast, just shooting to hit). Also since I purchased my A5 with the R/T already installed is there a way to make it a stock trigger? |
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Posted By: AdmiralSenn
Date Posted: 08 August 2005 at 9:53am
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The r/t cannot use more air than usual to fire the gun. Simply not possible from the way it's designed. You can, however, lose air efficiency by shooting *faster*.
And unless you got it used your A-5 should (I think) come with the stock parts to revert it or at least the shutoff plug to disable the r/t. You do have a manual, right? They're available on the web site if you need a copy - it's an adobe pdf. I doubt the E-trigger will show any improvement over the r/t in air efficiency. If you're not into shooting fast, why did you get a response trigger? That's what it's for, after all. ------------- Is God real? You'll find out when you die. 
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Posted By: A5hitmann
Date Posted: 08 August 2005 at 9:57am
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I got back into p-ball last year and when I purchased the A5 I decided to go with the R/T on it because...<shurgs> I dunno. At the time it seemed like a good idea is all. As for the trigger using more air...your answer was what I was figuring since it works off the expelled gas from the shot. I wanted to make sure though. Thanks |
Posted By: not steve
Date Posted: 08 August 2005 at 10:01am
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it might use a little bit more tho. but the r/t doesnt work to good. i mean u cant hold the responsive firing for like even 2 seconds before u loose ur "sweetspot" on the trigger. i had an a5 as my first gun with r/t but i never used it. it runs to great a risk of chopping balls ------------- PROTO MATRIX |
Posted By: AdmiralSenn
Date Posted: 08 August 2005 at 10:06am
Uh? It's physically not possible for the r/t to use more air, not even a little bit. As for me, I can rip strings off the r/t for as long as I want (and with a qloader and the LP hose mod it absolutely rips). Maybe you just need to learn to fire it? And as for it chopping balls.. it's an A-5. If you're chopping balls with a standard response trigger on an A-5 then you have serious problems with your gun. That's not normal. ------------- Is God real? You'll find out when you die.
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not steve wrote:Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 08 August 2005 at 10:11am
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I also can empty my hopper using the RT continuously at obscene rates of fire. As to efficiency - generally speaking, Senn is correct. BUT - since the RT uses excess gas, it requires that there BE excess gas, and at a decent pressure too. This means that you cannot use RVAs and regulators to their full capabilities with an RT. If you tune your gun so closely using efficiency upgrades that there is no excess gas, then the RT cannot function. So having an RT does limit the maximum theoretical efficiency of your gun. On a stock Tippmann, however, the RT does not decrease efficiency at all. ------------- [IMG]http://i38.tinypic.com/aag8s8.jpg"> |
Posted By: rossy11223
Date Posted: 08 August 2005 at 1:32pm
| I have heard that the gun uses more air than it really needs to just to create the excess gas. When you get a stock 98c, it is going to use more air than it needs to so when you get a r/t, there will be no change, the only difference is that the excess air is being used for something. |
Posted By: MKB98C
Date Posted: 10 August 2005 at 1:45am
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i dont think so cuz it just uses excess but yeah u can lose efficiency btw lol ur name looks like A **edited**man lol
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Posted By: S\/\/4T-L()G4N
Date Posted: 10 August 2005 at 9:31am
What? And yes, you can shoot off entire hoppers in a sting with the R/T. I've been pinned down for entire games with one. ------------- 
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Posted By: woodzballer08
Date Posted: 10 August 2005 at 8:15pm
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The R/T trigger uses the extra air from the blowback action of the bolt, there is no need for an etrigger if you want full auto then just use the bounce from your shots to find the "sweet spot" meaning you no longer have to move your finger after a shot or so. the egrip requires a 9 vt battery. ------------- Getting bunkered is like having sex in prision; it will happen weather you like it or not. |
Posted By: woodzballer08
Date Posted: 10 August 2005 at 8:16pm
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i have a rt and a modified mid feed to accpt a halo. i never chop any paintballs. every now and then one breaks in the barrel due to velocity problems. ------------- Getting bunkered is like having sex in prision; it will happen weather you like it or not. |
Posted By: IONKID
Date Posted: 12 August 2005 at 11:33pm
| My r/t rips almost 20 bps at best, and i've help ppl down with it for long periods of time, I love it!!! It's the best up for the 98's or A-5's!!! |
Posted By: Bruce A. Frank
Date Posted: 14 August 2005 at 3:36pm
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How can it chop balls when the function of the Cyclone feed is matched to the bolt movement? |
Posted By: rossy11223
Date Posted: 14 August 2005 at 8:09pm
| You don't know what your are talking about if you think the r/t doesn't work well. I can hold my sweetspot on my 98c until my gun freezes up. It is easily my favorite upgrade on my gun. |