New Gun For speedball
Printed From: Tippmann Paintball
Category: Paintball Equipment
Forum Name: Which Gun is Best
Forum Description: Need Advice? Ask the pros.
URL: http://www.tippmannsports.com/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID=139695
Printed Date: 08 December 2025 at 4:48pm
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Topic: New Gun For speedball
Posted By: CottageCommando
Subject: New Gun For speedball
Date Posted: 09 August 2005 at 11:53pm
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I need to know reasons why these are good im looking to get a new gun very shortly and u guys are probably the best ppl i know out there so gimme a reason besides the other gun just sux ------------- Building an Evil Empire... One piece at a time :) |
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Posted By: Waterhose05
Date Posted: 09 August 2005 at 11:55pm
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I would say the b2k4 with PDS. Thats only b/c i had a b2k4
without pds and loved it. It was an awesome gun for the
price. You can score one now with pds for hella cheap. It's
also very easy to maintain.
------------- 05 Macdev Cyborg Black/Red Tadao Board Clamping Feedneck Just get some from the school nurse...I know she has like 5 sticks in her drawer. |
Posted By: tarallo
Date Posted: 10 August 2005 at 12:35am
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Ion, ICD is poopy. Well, so is SP, but the Ion is still better. ------------- 
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Posted By: CottageCommando
Date Posted: 10 August 2005 at 12:36am
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ok you didnt give me a good reason for the ion so im gonna disregard that ------------- Building an Evil Empire... One piece at a time :) |
Posted By: Ditmar369
Date Posted: 10 August 2005 at 12:09pm
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ion it is one of the low cost high end markers out there...if that makes sence to anyone..lol ------------- 
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Posted By: Seipher
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 6:00pm
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i would say ion. i am one of the few who support smart parts (im gonna get flamed for that) but i would still rather have a tippy for what i do. anyway, ions are cheap for the quality, pretty customizable, and easy to maintain. plus they look nifty! -------------  in modern warfare, victory goes to the nutcase with the biggest explosions.
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Posted By: tippy279
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 9:51pm
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Seipher, ready to be flamed? J/k everyone gets their own opinion here. Im one of the ones against SP because of their policies and quality control and lawsuits but they do their best with only 150 factory employees. I say go for the ICD because its faster and cooler lookin and accurate and upgradeable. Also reliable. P.s. Id really rather not be flamed so keep it to yourself please. ------------- My guns name is Mr. Max in remembrance of my dog that got hit by a car: Tippmann A-5 Ricochet R-5 JCS double Trigger Tippmann E-Grip Flatline Barrel Do you have the need for speed? |
Posted By: glazener24
Date Posted: 12 August 2005 at 1:39am
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i am also anti-smart parts, check the avatar get the b2k |
Posted By: Lightningbolt
Date Posted: 12 August 2005 at 11:41am
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The b2k is a proven design and has alot of upgrades available and is a larger, more heavy gun which isn't really a bad thing IMO. The extra weight should help control recoil compared to the Ion. The Ion is cheap, small, light and suppoesedly turning out to be a good gun. The attraction I have to the Ion is price and the thought that it would be a waste of money to add upgrades. It's ready right out of the box. This is one gun that I'd stay away from upgrade hype. Another thing for me is comparing the Ion to something else I might get like an Angel and I would rather have 3 or 4 Ion's than an Angel. I use this as a way of justifying money spent. All thing's considered I say b2k |
Posted By: ShortyBP
Date Posted: 12 August 2005 at 11:48am
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Out of your choices... another vote for the B2K PDS.
I had a B2K back in the day, and it was a good marker. Ended up trading it... but probably would have kept it if it had eyes. With PDS, and the fact that they are now threaded for Cocker barrels... vast improvement over already good guns. Aside from my ill-will towards SP for all their patent BS... my opinion of SP was low before then. Their customer service was downright awful... not only for users, but for dealers. Maybe they've improved since then? ICD on the other hand, always had good customer service (back then)... par with Tippmann's. It's been years since I've dealt with either, so I may be a bit outdated... but I still take company history into account when considering what products I buy. |
Posted By: reclusivetorrid
Date Posted: 12 August 2005 at 12:08pm
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The new Ion is great. Shoots incredibly fast, with good consistency right out of the box.
However, I understand all the anti-SP talk. My local pro-shop's techs are actually certified SP dealers, and they also honor your waranty. So customer service has been great for me. Maybe not so good for someone else. I'm not going to vote, because it all boils down to what feels best in YOUR hands. BKO's are also pretty darn good guns. I can tell you this, the Ion is really easy to work on, and is also pretty dang reliable. Don't let the plastic sleeve fool you either, they are almost 100% metal. Get an aluminum body kit and will be (for the most part). Good luck on your decision, I hope my info is helpful. ------------- 
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Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 12 August 2005 at 12:10pm
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I won't offer an opinion on Ion vs. B2K, but I will suggest that out of the guns listed, those two are the only ones you should even consider. The remaining guns on the list should not be compared with an Ion or B2K. ------------- [IMG]http://i38.tinypic.com/aag8s8.jpg"> |
Posted By: Waterhose05
Date Posted: 12 August 2005 at 2:38pm
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have you thought about the new ICD Promaster. That gun is hella sweet.
------------- 05 Macdev Cyborg Black/Red Tadao Board Clamping Feedneck Just get some from the school nurse...I know she has like 5 sticks in her drawer. |
Posted By: Waterhose05
Date Posted: 12 August 2005 at 2:39pm
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sorry...my reason: its light, its fast, has some great ups on it.
Probably one of the best markers for its price. It can probably
compete with some of the higher end markers with a couple of ups.
------------- 05 Macdev Cyborg Black/Red Tadao Board Clamping Feedneck Just get some from the school nurse...I know she has like 5 sticks in her drawer. |
Posted By: MeanMan
Date Posted: 12 August 2005 at 2:43pm
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I was gonna get a B2K4 w/ pds but my proshop suggested an ion over it because they said that ICD has great service but the guns break easy. So go with the ion ------------- 
hybrid-sniper~"To be honest, if I see a player still using an Impulse I'm going to question their motives." |
Posted By: Seipher
Date Posted: 14 August 2005 at 1:47am
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im not much into kingman, they are good guns and all, but still... any way, why is no one mentioning the electra. 30 balls a sec is pretty god for $265. as for the anti SP talks, i just like the gear they sell (I WANNA SHOCKER!). i have not yet delt with the staff so i have no idea what they are like. ------------- in modern warfare, victory goes to the nutcase with the biggest explosions.
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Posted By: Cormier
Date Posted: 14 August 2005 at 3:01pm
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well if i were you i would get the B2K PDS or the Promaster that is coming up my reason is their nice gun and are pretty reliable plus instead of being 1 of the 20 people at your field with the ion you could have people saying "holy what kind of gun is that its sweets" anyway ya i bought a ion just because it was cheaper and easier to get then the B2K PDS or Promaster in canada so if you have the extra money buy the one of them but the ion isn't a bad choice either so its up to you buddy ------------- ya ever noticed in a beer commercial no one ever drinks a beer? |
Posted By: SMAPAINTBALL
Date Posted: 18 August 2005 at 11:15am
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Cockers all the WAY!!!!! get it e'd goes close to 20 its Awsome ------------- 98% of paintballers act gangsta', if you are of the 2% that are normal, put this this in your sig. 
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Posted By: brat mann
Date Posted: 18 August 2005 at 12:49pm
| Id say the Wraith. Ive used one of Diablo's guns (the Mongoose LCD version) and their pretty good. |
Posted By: tippy279
Date Posted: 20 August 2005 at 7:07pm
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Id say the ICD B2k pds because it has an awesome board and a wicked trigger. It RIPS like mad and you cant go wrong w/ the pds. It will compete with the high enders 2x the price of it. There are also a decent amount of ups for it and maitenance will be simple. Since ICD just came out with a new marker Im hoping I can get a nice deal on the B2k4 PDs myself. Good luck ------------- My guns name is Mr. Max in remembrance of my dog that got hit by a car: Tippmann A-5 Ricochet R-5 JCS double Trigger Tippmann E-Grip Flatline Barrel Do you have the need for speed? |
Posted By: paintboy123
Date Posted: 25 August 2005 at 7:03pm
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B2K soo fast/accurate faster that ANY hopper ------------- 98c 2 20oz tanks 14'' smat parts AA 4+1 pack tippmann mask that came w/ gun |
Posted By: MoNkeY Hunter
Date Posted: 25 August 2005 at 10:50pm
Waith all the way or the Ion
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Posted By: MoNkeY Hunter
Date Posted: 26 August 2005 at 5:25pm
| take this into consideration, i just learned that most people arnt going to get17 plus out of the gun. most pros cant do that. so speed isnt all that and its the person behing the gun not the gun its self i mean dont get me wrong speed is good but not every thing. if you play pump for a wile you realize that you dont need speed. when i play woodzball i turn my RT down to like 10-12 because its a lot of money for paint. |
Posted By: Grent
Date Posted: 26 August 2005 at 5:51pm
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b2k with pds is my choice because its got eyes and is the same price as an ion but looks way better(for me atleast). ------------- i lost my strike.. good things do happen to bad people |