New to Tippman and paintballing
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Topic: New to Tippman and paintballing
Posted By: maximum6
Subject: New to Tippman and paintballing
Date Posted: 10 August 2005 at 8:03pm
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Well I play in vegas...and they have a few pretty good bunker fields here. Its not big....but big enough. I have my own paintball gun..except the problem is that it sucks as it is the old school brass eagle sting ray. I do better using the tippman 98 custom that they have at the rentals. Now i want to own my own tippman but need advice on the upgrades and what not. Chances are i'm going to be playing bunkers and not woods. Now you people say speed ball..i don't know what that means...
now i want to know what would be good....a custom pro or an A-5 ? what customizations are a must? an option? i thought about doing this :
custom pro: Must ; cyclone feed, e trigger, flatline barrel, response trigger kit. option; collapsible stock kit, comouflage graphics
a-5: Must; double trigger, e grip , flatline barrel, response trigger option; universal mount for drop forward, comouflage, collapsible stock kit. now this is just what i got from the accessory line from the site.
what do you guys suggest? |
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Posted By: antman
Date Posted: 10 August 2005 at 8:13pm
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ok you cant have E-grip and an RT (response trigger kit). I wouldn't go 4 the flatline mabe the bigshot. you need a new hoper. I dont think you should get collapsible stock kit or comouflage graphics. |
Posted By: G36 Monkey
Date Posted: 10 August 2005 at 8:13pm
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well you cant have both e grip and r/t I personally like my a-5 and you can own real good with it. You wont really need a camo job since you wont be in woods, that black is camo enough. You will have to get a new barrel and if you have the money go for the flatline, ive heard about that new apex barrel and theey say its really good, i like my big shot, j and j's r good, all americans are good too. all dye barrels are guaranteed good pretty much too lol ------------- Tippmann A-5 Psycho Ballistics Double Trigger A-5 E-Grip (tweaked and resoldered) Lapco Bigshot 12 inch Barrel Remote (Brand unknown) Soon to come: G36c Scenario kit Nitrogen |
Posted By: G36 Monkey
Date Posted: 10 August 2005 at 8:15pm
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look at that, we both posted at 8:13 only you were seconds ahead of me, i wanted to be first lol. ------------- Tippmann A-5 Psycho Ballistics Double Trigger A-5 E-Grip (tweaked and resoldered) Lapco Bigshot 12 inch Barrel Remote (Brand unknown) Soon to come: G36c Scenario kit Nitrogen |
Posted By: Ace. Canuck
Date Posted: 10 August 2005 at 8:16pm
Correct me if im wrong but you don't need a Response trigger and a E grip. (Go with the G grip/trigger). Another must would be HPA, Good stuff  . Welcome to the forums. Oh! and youll need some good equipment, Like a mask and stuff if you don't allready, And what we call speed ball it sounds like you call bunker, so same thing  .------------- 
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Posted By: Ace. Canuck
Date Posted: 10 August 2005 at 8:18pm
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awww and I was a minut behind.... -------------
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Posted By: G36 Monkey
Date Posted: 10 August 2005 at 8:21pm
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a minute behind the second 1, i think he means like wooden bunkers not like an airball field, with like towers and things, and yea...you can only have r/t or e grip and with egrip its almost a must to get double or blade trigger, i mean whats the point without it. Like we all said you wont need the camo on either, unless itll come stock with the gun. ------------- Tippmann A-5 Psycho Ballistics Double Trigger A-5 E-Grip (tweaked and resoldered) Lapco Bigshot 12 inch Barrel Remote (Brand unknown) Soon to come: G36c Scenario kit Nitrogen |
Posted By: maximum6
Date Posted: 10 August 2005 at 8:32pm
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thanks for the quick reply. well..since i'm new to paintball..most of your talk is still new to me. I play in a sort of a cage thing... with bunkers... sort of an outdoor arena.
the a-5 is good? sorry ..i didn't know you can't have both...so you would suggest E grip upgrade for a-5..?and then put a double trigger with that? Can you use that technique "walk" if you do this? Also...i saw some sniper barrels...i wouldn't think i need that since i'm playing bunkers....so flatline would be best? or is there better i can do? should i get universal mount for a drop forward for the a-5?
thanks. |
Posted By: TippmannPro13
Date Posted: 10 August 2005 at 8:40pm
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Don't get an A-5 for what you call "Bunkers" is speedball. The cyclone cant feed fast enough, and the A-5 is big. The 98 custom or the Pro E is the way to go. You will need a new barrel a J&J ceramic 14" or a Lapco Bigshot. A dropforward, (If you get the Pro E, it already comes with one) A fast hopper say An Egg ( evolution 2 viewloader) Or a Halo. Ask your local field it the resposne trigger is allowed. that will make your gun shoot alot faster. After that you should just get HPA ( high pressure air ) AKA nitrogen. This is alot better then C02. Well that should cover the surface of it. Good luck. And welcome to the forums! Fell free to PM me with any questions. Also do not get the flatline for what you are playing. ------------- http://www.sloganizer.net/en/"> 
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Posted By: maximum6
Date Posted: 10 August 2005 at 8:46pm
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alrighty.. what is Pro E? do you mean the pro custom? Also..the barrels and hoppers you're talking about...are they even part of tippman equipment? or are they from other companies? |
Posted By: G36 Monkey
Date Posted: 10 August 2005 at 8:46pm
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I really dont think bunkers is speedball, im pretty sure its all wood and stuff, and dont worry about thinkin you could get r/t and e grip, alot of us thought that at one point, i just didnt cuz i was too poor lol ------------- Tippmann A-5 Psycho Ballistics Double Trigger A-5 E-Grip (tweaked and resoldered) Lapco Bigshot 12 inch Barrel Remote (Brand unknown) Soon to come: G36c Scenario kit Nitrogen |
Posted By: G36 Monkey
Date Posted: 10 August 2005 at 8:48pm
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the stuff is not tippmann, the "eggy" is a viewloader evolution hopper and would go on the custom pro (98 custom that can get an egrip and comes with drop forward and is just better) but i dont think you would be needing more than 18 bps for what it sounds like your playing. So yes a cyclone would do you some justice so you could get the a-5. ------------- Tippmann A-5 Psycho Ballistics Double Trigger A-5 E-Grip (tweaked and resoldered) Lapco Bigshot 12 inch Barrel Remote (Brand unknown) Soon to come: G36c Scenario kit Nitrogen |
Posted By: TippmannPro13
Date Posted: 10 August 2005 at 8:51pm
I mean the custom Pro E, and the barrels are a different company, not tippmann. And the hoppers. ------------- http://www.sloganizer.net/en/">
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maximum6 wrote:Posted By: maximum6
Date Posted: 10 August 2005 at 9:13pm
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alright....so get 98 pro custom.....with cyclone feed...e trigger ? .. the egg hopper..( whats so special that i should get this specific one?)...or halo (same thing)....and the big shot or j&j barrels..(also wahts so special?)
thanks alot! GO TIPPMAN!! |
Posted By: TippmannPro13
Date Posted: 10 August 2005 at 9:20pm
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Do not get the Cyclone! Get the egg or the Halo they are very fast at loading. The barrels are both cheap and accurate. And what is an "E trigger"? ------------- http://www.sloganizer.net/en/">
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Posted By: maximum6
Date Posted: 10 August 2005 at 9:21pm
| O..i was wondering..what is the difference between response trigger and that e trigger....? I know the e trigger is electronic and you set 5 different rate of fires....but what does the response do? |
Posted By: TippmannPro13
Date Posted: 10 August 2005 at 9:27pm
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It increases your Rate of Fire. You sweet spot it to how fast you want it to shoot. Like say you pull the trigger and anywhere from 1 to 5 balls can shoot. But you adjust it however you want. Its really nice. But some fields don't allow it, so you should ask where you play if it's allowed before you buy it. I would definatly but it if its allowed. I have one and its awesome. ------------- http://www.sloganizer.net/en/">
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Posted By: maximum6
Date Posted: 10 August 2005 at 9:29pm
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the e trigger allows for auto ...so how come i should pic response trigger over e trigger?
thanks. |
Posted By: TippmannPro13
Date Posted: 10 August 2005 at 9:33pm
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Does the E trigger come with the Pro E? ------------- http://www.sloganizer.net/en/">
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Posted By: maximum6
Date Posted: 10 August 2005 at 9:36pm
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well. starting with the hoppers .... I believe the evo 2 i've tried it the last time i played paintball..my friend let me use his ion..and he had the same looking hopper on it. It has a switch on it...however...i thought the way the hopper opened wasn't that good...cause i was flinging the gun around...and the hopper poped opened. now for the halo..there are a few halos on here..which one? http://www.actioncenterpaintball.com/store/SearchResult.aspx?CategoryID=10 - http://www.actioncenterpaintball.com/store/SearchResult.aspx ?CategoryID=10
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Posted By: maximum6
Date Posted: 10 August 2005 at 9:40pm
| the e trigger is in the accessory section of the site....no...it doesn't come with |
Posted By: TippmannPro13
Date Posted: 10 August 2005 at 9:42pm
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The Oddysey Halo b w/ rip drive. ------------- http://www.sloganizer.net/en/">
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Posted By: maximum6
Date Posted: 10 August 2005 at 9:45pm
| is that like the best hopper ever? looks like it |
Posted By: TippmannPro13
Date Posted: 10 August 2005 at 9:48pm
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Pretty close. Along with the Empire Reloader B. ------------- http://www.sloganizer.net/en/">
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Posted By: maximum6
Date Posted: 10 August 2005 at 10:05pm
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now for the barrels...lapco has a 12" ,14" and a polished barrel or bead blasted? also..is there a site you suggest that i can buy all of this to start my gun off? |
Posted By: drumlinefreek
Date Posted: 10 August 2005 at 10:15pm
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http://www.actionvillage.com - www.actionvillage.com has just about every thing you need or want, at reasonable prices. ------------- A-5 J&J 14" Double trig Outkast Sniper II- rolling with the pump world |
Posted By: maximum6
Date Posted: 10 August 2005 at 10:29pm
| I just realized that there is pro custom E and pro custom..whats the difference? |
Posted By: Ace. Canuck
Date Posted: 10 August 2005 at 11:37pm
Well, I use a R/T and because no tournoments or anything will allow a R/T im thinking of getting an egrip, Actually im gunna buy a Alias intimidator...But anywho, I find the R/T works well, you just gota get used to it and all but if your thinking of doing tournoments or anything, to be on the safe side I would go with the Egrip. Reason being is that the R/T dose somthing classified as "Boucning" and you get discoulified for it, Why I don't know but you do. As for barrels I would get a barrel kit if you can because their is alot of paint out their and they all are different size, no matter whats on the box they arnt perfect so I went with an Evil pipe kit and im quite happy because it fits allmost all sizes of paint. Also, my A-5 is kinda heavy but if your not a little woman its fine and the cyclone feed will feed as fast as a tippmann should shoot  .-------------
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Posted By: rossy11223
Date Posted: 10 August 2005 at 11:39pm
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Custom pro E has the e-grip in it, regular custom pro doesn't. |
Posted By: maximum6
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 3:34am
| so you can't put response trigger into a pro custom e? someone said you can't have both egrip and r/t |
Posted By: bluemunky42
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 7:04am
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speedball is the same thing as "bunkers" ------------- 
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Posted By: rossy11223
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 10:52am
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Correct, you can't put a r/t in a custom pro e but you can put one in a custom pro. You can't have both the e-grip and r/t in the same game at the same time. |
Posted By: TippmannPro13
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 10:59am
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Thank-You. ------------- http://www.sloganizer.net/en/">
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Posted By: PB 24/7
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 11:06am
| Hey, I found a sweet deal on a tippman model 98 in chamelion color, but I'm wondering- they say the difference between a model 98 and a 98 custom is the trigger. They also say that you can send the gun to tippmann and they'll adapt the trigger for you. Is that expensive, and is it worth the time? |
Posted By: rossy11223
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 11:16am
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The trigger guard in a m98 is not removable where the trigger guard in the 98c is. The 98c also has the ability to take drop-in mods like the r/t and cyclone. If you wanted to put the r/t in a m98, for example, you would send it to Tippmann and they would retro fit it for you. There is almost nothing you can do to a 98c and not do to a m98. If you found a good deal, get it. Welcome to the forums and for future references, make your own thread instead of asking your question in someone else's. |
Posted By: Nickodemus
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 11:24am
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To me it sounds like you play on a REC field. Unless it has only inflatable bunkers with no "unique" obstacles on the field. Is it a bunch of walk on players or do they have established teams/how many on the field at a time? As far a stock markers go... The A-5 is better then the 98C and I would say the pro/carbine is better then both (STOCK!) I would spend your money playing for awhile. However upgrades make your marker, so since you are planning on doing that, I would first get yourself settled on what rate of fire you need. The cyclone max is around 15-18 balls per second and personally I believe you don't need any more then that. If you want more then that, then don't get the A-5. Put a good hopper on a 98 or get an ion. If the R/T is legal on the field, it is a good buy. No batteries, less to break, no "modes" to deal with. It is like a race car, at first it may be tough but with a little practice it is a fine tuned machine. The flatline is not what you are looking for, it's advantage is minimal in actual gameplay with close up engagments, and it's pickyness makes it a pain. I would buy first a great mask, then upgrade your barrel to one that was mentioned before, then upgrade your pressure regulation (HPA and/or regulator, skip the expansion chamber), then your rate of fire (hopper if 98, R/T or go electric). After that it is up to you if you want a drop forward Here is my A-5 with the response trigger and shooting 14-16 balls per second. It is all mechanical so there are no batteries to replace, and it can get wet and thrown around without breaking as easily. http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=MOV0029469 - http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=MOV0029469 ------------- Think and give them all you have from the beginning, and never weaken! |
, or to run a remote gas line from your harness. Price out the parts to see what would be least expensive for you. Buying the A-5 with RT installed and putting a new barrel on it would be a good start.Posted By: RamboBlue
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 11:59am
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heres the setup you should get 98custon pro e 14 lapco bigshot halo b with rip drive hpa(nitrogen) low pressure kit v-force vantage mask if you are on a budget just get custon pro r/t with halo frontman and anti-siphon so that your gun doesnt freeze with the r/t ------------- TIPPMANN KICKS ASS Champions know pain, endure pain, and never complain 98% of paintballers act gangsta', if you are of the 2% that are normal, put this this in your sig. |
Posted By: G36 Monkey
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 3:31pm
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i still say to get the a-5 that you will love it like any of us owners love ours. Its a great all around gun, i use mine for both play and do really well at it. The e grip is obviously a better buy if you wish to play in tourneys so you can more quickly cap your balls per second, you wont need to shoot more than 18 bps which is what the cyclone offers. though after the 18 it will skiip every now and then because it spins much too fast, but then in less than like 15 seconds you would be empty. Just do what you want and consider all the suggestions everyone has given you. And like some1 said im pretty sure "bunkers" is rec ball, i just couldnt think of the name lol. I knew speed ball and woods though i think of rec ball as alot like woods. ------------- Tippmann A-5 Psycho Ballistics Double Trigger A-5 E-Grip (tweaked and resoldered) Lapco Bigshot 12 inch Barrel Remote (Brand unknown) Soon to come: G36c Scenario kit Nitrogen |
Posted By: PB 24/7
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 4:33pm
Thanks for all the advice. I play woodsball 95% of the time, so I'm thinking I'll probably go with a 98 custom with a flatline barrel. Maybe response trigger, I'm not sure. I'm trying to keep the expenses low- I don't have a ton of money just to spend on paintball. 
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Posted By: DNY98c
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 5:19pm
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In my opinion here is what you should get: One thing you should not get right away is a drop forward. I bought mine right away, used it for a year and then sold it for 1/3 of the price i bought it for. Play without a drop forward, and then if you feel you need one get one. Trust me. And if you're thinking about getting a stock, DON'T. Just use your c02 tank as a stock. It works really good. I have an R/T and just got it shooting pretty fast, it's really sweet. The R/T is not electric and is considered "full auto" by some people. But it is actually semi-auto but is air assited. You can use a single trigger for this, and using a double is pointless. Tippmann says it is capable of firing up to 15bps, but people have got them firing faster. The e-trigger is an electronic trigger system. It comes with the custom pro e. It is best used with a double trigger and can fire up to 17bps. You will need to change batteries and such with that, as with the R/T you will not. Don't get a barrel over 12 inches, there is no point. It wont make your gun more accurate, and will just get in the way. 12" is the length at which a barrel stops getting more accurate after that. Cheap barrel choices: 1) J&J ceramic 12"- I have this barrel, it is quite accurate and is very quiet. The outside can get scrathced easily on the tip, but that doesnt really matter. 2) Lapco bigshot 12"- I have never used this barrel, but from what i've heard it is very accurate and loud. And I would just go with the regular lapco bigshot, not bead blasted or anything. What I would suggest you get is : CUSTOM PRO E J&J ceramic 12" Evolution 2 hopper- Will feed as fast as you need gauranteed. 20 0z C02 with anti-siphon- A bigger tank than the regular 9 0z. You will be-able to shoot more without running out of gas. Also, the anti-siphon is a little tube that htey install in your tank. It makes it so that only gas c02 goes in your gun, not liquid. And with that, your set. Of course you could always get vertical adapter and put in a regulator once your ready. But I think the things I listed would be perfect for you. Hope you have fun. If you have any questions PM me.
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Posted By: PB 24/7
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 5:38pm
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Hey, I've heard that the flatline is picky about what paint you put in it- true?
And, I found a camelion colored model 98 (not custom) for $115, new in package. Is it worth getting that upgrading it or just go ahead and get a 98 custom with flatline and r/t? Thanks! |
Posted By: billcosby
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 6:13pm
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quit hijakcing this kids thread ------------- GABAA GABBA HEY PUNK IS HERE TO STAY Ride foundation I shoot a timmy |
Posted By: Nickodemus
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 6:14pm
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You need small bore paint and to keep the barrel clean. http://www.ottersccustoms.com/images/paintc-pdf.pdf - http://www.ottersccustoms.com/images/paintc-pdf.pdf ------------- Think and give them all you have from the beginning, and never weaken! |
Posted By: snipernthedark
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 7:13pm
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If money is not an issue.
98 Custom E- bolt Ebay $110 Low Pressure Kit Palmers Regulator 110ci 4500psi Nitro tank drop forward Halo B rip drive and victory board up to 35 bps freak barrel kit double trigger polished internals dye sticky grips |
Posted By: rossy11223
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 9:06pm
| When is money not an issue and who would want to spend that much on a 98c when they could have a high end gun for the same price? |
Posted By: maximum6
Date Posted: 12 August 2005 at 5:34pm
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hahaha...money is an issue...i mean i'm not going to be playing in tournament or anything...and i do good with a regular rental 98custom gun.
I just personally want a gun where i can keep up with the other people...cause i get hit more than i hit them.
So far i have ...: Pro Custom E trigger Halo Oddysey b w/ rip drive (there are so many halos..why this one?) Lapco big shot barrel (which one...there are a few)or J&J? anything else? and thats about it...i would just use a regular 20oz co2 until i get better and into the game. |
Posted By: maximum6
Date Posted: 14 August 2005 at 2:05am
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for the guy that say don't get a barrel that is past 12'' ...how come everybody else say to get 14''?
I'm going to go for a Pro Custom E for sure....and that means no r/t. i tried the egg ...with my friend's ion...can't say i like it or not....since the ion was messed up because the way he fixed it. Although i don't like the egg because the cover opens up too easily...and i lost some paintballs when i was flinging the gun around. Although it could just be his egg..i don't want to take any chances...and halo i heard good things about.
another thing is ...someone mentioned i should get a low pressure kit?? what does that do?
now i'm starting to shop online but a few things confuse me barrels...on lapco big shot...there is one for model 98..does that fit on the pro custom?? there is one that is 12inch that comes with blackblasted and blackpolished...what does that mean? And there is one that is a regular 14 inch and a 14inch bead blasted.?? http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/BrowseCatalog-Start;sid=69kf1SlPvwgfSGuxD_7ffSOG4_TaHIbgmqw=?CategoryName=paintball-paintball-barrels-lapco-barrels - http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/S tore/en/-/USD/BrowseCatalog-Start;sid=69kf1SlPvwgfSGuxD_7ffS OG4_TaHIbgmqw=?CategoryName=paintball-paintball-barrels-lapc o-barrels For the halo hopper...what does the Rip drive do? http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eTS/Store/en/-/USD/ViewBasket-View;sid=69kf1SlPvwgfSGuxD_7ffSOG4_TaHIbgmqw - http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eTS/S tore/en/-/USD/ViewBasket-View;sid=69kf1SlPvwgfSGuxD_7ffSOG4_ TaHIbgmqw =
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Posted By: billcosby
Date Posted: 19 August 2005 at 4:05am
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Rip drive is incase your battery dies you can wind it up to manualy feed paintballs ------------- GABAA GABBA HEY PUNK IS HERE TO STAY Ride foundation I shoot a timmy |
Posted By: Sureshot3091
Date Posted: 19 August 2005 at 4:36am
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http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=ZeIKu3XIWrIKOjbN8lHKE38B2k1zsphzk98=?ProductID=pQbAqArbl0kAAAECqkAmO6zl# - Marker It is a Custom Pro E...Which already has the E-Trigger Installed http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=ZeIKu3XIWrIKOjbN8lHKE38B2k1zsphzk98=?ProductID=Wm_AqArb1mIAAAEB6ctjr5HA - Hopper Is a Halo B w/Rip Drive http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=ZeIKu3XIWrIKOjbN8lHKE38B2k1zsphzk98=?ProductID=X3GsFAY7KCYAAAD3YyelA_2t - Barrel Is a J&J Ceramic Barrel...Should be fine for what you play....I use this barrel... and you said you already have a 20oz tank? But with the E-Trigger you should use HPA (High Pressure Air)...Ebay is the best place for them...If you can't afford HPA then you'll need an http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=ZeIKu3XIWrIKOjbN8lHKE38B2k1zsphzk98=?ProductID=bXCsFAY7%2eyUAAAD6VAp1Mov1 - X-Chamber , Anti-Syphon (sp?), or....I think that's it actually.... Also you may want to give an average of how much money you have....That would help greatly.... ------------- http://img329.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0020xo.jpg"> 
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Posted By: bronco9588
Date Posted: 19 August 2005 at 10:15am
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check out countypaintball.com . They have a lot of good deals there.
Size does not matter on a barrell. I would only get a 14 for the looks. Really, I would get the bead blasted 8.5 inch bigshot. If you look down a barrell, you might be able to see different angles in the gun (if it is honed nicely). The bigshot is like a funnel, that tightens up in the middle. Im sure other barrells do this. but the 8.5" barrell is accurate and you dont have this 14 pole in front of you. For the loader, Everybody is like get the Halo, get the halo... get the halo. You can get a halo to outfeed the gun and that is cool. You can get another electronic board called the V-board, and it allows the gun to shoot what they say is 35BPS. I would take a look at a Q-loader and see if it is for your style of play. It is a little dufferent than the hopper way of doing things. But you can mount these anywhere, I mean anywhere on your gun. Check out qloader.com pros: 1)You can turn your gun upside down and shoot- I would like to see a warp drive continuously feed like that. 2)Cut down your silouette- put the pod anywhere and let is feed. 3) It works like a magazine clip for a real gun. Your tubes are your hopper. 4) load faster than with a hopper 5) It feeds 31+BPS. 6) Oh ya, no batteries. ***an interesting note about hoppers: some companies advertize their free fall speeds. That is how many bps can they drop in a bag. But feeding a paintgun, the paint is going to have to stop and go stop and go, to getting the same free fall speeds. The freefall for the Q is about 50BPS, and stop and go is about 31 (ive seen 32.5). The halo with victory board advertises 35 bps. Well ive only seen about 32 come out of that hopper as well. BUT YOU WONT NEED THESE SPEEDS ANYWAYS. take a look http://www.zakvetter.com/Videos/QLoader%20vs%20Halo%20Full.mov - here. Cons: 1) 100 rounds/ tube and they are the size of a 140 round pod. 2) you cant top off the pod during gameplay. 3)teadeous to reload. |
Posted By: maximum6
Date Posted: 21 August 2005 at 3:36am
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that q loader system seems pretty cool...but does any one here use it? the idea of not having to pop open your hopper..and load your hopper is nice.... Still not exactly sure how it works...it says it is spring powered...but i still don't understand until i actually see one.
Another question about the barrels...J&J has a 1 piece and 2 piece barrels...what is the difference between those and the ceramic?? I choose to go with the J&J because of the price....Lapco has it at around 40-50 bucks and J&J ceramic has it at 30 bucks at paintball gear.com... I'm going to check my local paintball shop to see if they have pro custom E.....
Still thinking about Q loader.....i like it .. |
Posted By: Mr Fett
Date Posted: 21 August 2005 at 9:15am
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i wouldn't get the flatline barrel. they are extremely picky on paint. if you don't have the right paint, you'll get a lot of barrel breaks. plus if you have your marker tilted in any direction, the balls will curve that way. the only advantage with the flatty's is that you get more range. people will try to tell you that they are more accurate but that's not true. i finally gave up on mine recently and bought a whisper barrel. as for the cyclone feed, those are only for the a-5 and built right into the marker. you can't get them for any other marker.
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Posted By: maximum6
Date Posted: 22 August 2005 at 2:26am
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i've decided on the gun and barrel already..but of course..i'm gonna try the pro custom stock....before trying out the barrel... I'm going for Pro custom E and J&J ceramic 14in... now i was going to get the Halo B with rip drive..but the the q loader interested me....
and i don't know too much about nitro tanks....like what is psi...and what is ci? |
Posted By: Sureshot3091
Date Posted: 22 August 2005 at 2:36am
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How much $ do you have?
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Posted By: maximum6
Date Posted: 22 August 2005 at 2:40am
| i would spend some where around 500-600$ for everything on the gun, barrel, hopper, tank. |
Posted By: Sureshot3091
Date Posted: 22 August 2005 at 2:46am
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kk...well first off PSI is "Pressure Per Square Inch"...I think....And
CI is cubic inches....tanks come in either 3000psi, 4500psi, or
5000psi....Your best bet will be a 4500 psi tank....To average the
number of shots you will get for a tank: 3000psi - (ci) x 10 - so 68ci x 10 = around 680 shots.... 4500psi - (ci) x 15 - so 68ci x 15 = around 1020 shots... and for 5000psi I BELIEVE it is (ci) x 20 - so 68ci x 20 = around 1360 shots Also your shop may not be able to fill 5000psi tanks....So I would recomend around a 68ci 4500psi tank...Also it has to be High Pressure..That kind of tank would cost around $180 + shipping....Unless you find one on Ebay. ------------- http://img329.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0020xo.jpg">
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Posted By: maximum6
Date Posted: 22 August 2005 at 2:53am
| not an ebay member..so i'm relying on my local shop...and paintballgear.com. |
Posted By: bronco9588
Date Posted: 22 August 2005 at 11:12am
ummm, I cant "show" you one, but there are quite a few videos out there starting at www.qloader.com - qloader.com . http://qloader.com/info/movies.html - here is the q-loader movie page. It is quite facinating, and check out "speed". http://www.zakvetter.com/Videos/QLoader%20vs%20Halo%20Full.mov - here is a compairison movie to the Halo B. On the 4th run, the emag with the halo chops a couple balls like nutz. lastly, since i am biased, check out http://www.pbreview.com/products/reviews/2174/ - pbreview
check out www.countypaintball.com - countypaintball.com Deffinately some of the greatest deals, and they ship wicked fast. |
Posted By: maximum6
Date Posted: 02 January 2006 at 9:04am
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hahaha..sorry for not posting in such a long time.
i still haven't gotten my paintball marker yet... so far i believe i wanted : Pro custom e, J&J 12inch?, Halo B with rip drive, and still haven't decided what hydrogen tank... |
..but my birthday is coming up in Jan 22...and would hope to make my final purchases by then.Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 02 January 2006 at 10:26am
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I would get the 12" Lapco Bishot from http://countypaitnball.com - County Paintball it is a beeter barrel accuracy wise. The Halo is an awesome hopper, you will never need another hopper. You are getting a HPA(High Pressure Air) tank, not hydrogen. Putting Hydrogen on a paintball marker would be bad. I would suggest a 68/45 tank made by Crossfire, Air America, Gorrilla Air, Nitro Duck, or CenterFlag. All of these companys make a get reg... You do have HPA air fills on-site, correct? If not I wouldn't get a HPA tank. Since you seem to have the money, I would suggest a Secondary Regulator, such as a Palmer Stabilizer to keep your input pressure consistant. Also dont Forget a good mask, I would suggest a Vforce Profiler, or a Empire Vents. ------------- 
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Posted By: maximum6
Date Posted: 10 April 2006 at 11:53pm
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thanks for all your input.... i was shopping at Actionvillage...and could only find the gun, lapco barrel, halo b w/ripdrive...and all that comes up to 380 bucks... i was trying to find the HPA tank...with the companies you listed...and i found one where it says FIXED HIGH / LOW pressure and they both have 68/45.... i didn't know what that means and they were out of stock at the moment. Also...what is the reulator thing suppose to do...and which company ?
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Posted By: RavenGuard
Date Posted: 11 April 2006 at 4:54pm
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Don't listen to him saying the cyclone will not feed fast enough :P You sound like you will be sticking with this gun for a while, thus I would recommend the cyclone. The other hopper alternatives are all by other companies, and they will work just as well, BUT they will cost more and need batteries. The only upside in my oppinion is that you can bring them to any gun if you get a new one, but the cyclone will only work on the tippmanns. That is up to you. Also, the cyclone feeds 17bps stock, and with a $10 upgrade it can go up to 21-22 if you're lucky (results vary, average is 20bps). Here is what I suggest for speedball: -Custom Pro -Cyclone -E-trigger OR r/t -New barrel (use the stock barrel first, and come back here for recommendations on new barrels if you are not satisfied with it.) -Air system (only if your field fills air tanks. A palmers stabalizer will be a good alternative to this, check www.palmer-pursuit.com for details.) First of all, check if the response trigger is allowed at your field. If not, you have to go with the e-trigger if you want more firepower. I would recommend the e-trigger for indoors and r/t for outdoors, but both will work in either conditions (minus the e-trigger in rain). Note that the e-trigger will require batteries and the r/t will not. I also suggest using co2 and see if it works for you. Some people use it their whole lives and they never have a complaint, while others prefer air. Air systems are expensive, so you may as well try co2 first. About the cyclone, if you are playing a regular game, you will likely only be allowed semi-auto with the e-trigger. Unless you get the r/t, the 17bps the cyclone feeds stock should be way more than you will ever need in semi-auto only. If you ever need an upgrade on speed, get the QEV. Mine keeps up to atleast 19-20 balls per second. This is all stuff to worry about when you need it though, and you won't need it until you play with your gun and decide you need it for yourself. Hope I helped. ------------- Tippmann A-5 Polished Internals E-Grip Ape Board JCS Blade Trigger QEV 8" Bigshot + Apex Ricochet R-5 / Tac Cap Palmers Stabilizer 68/4500 Crossfire |
Posted By: RavenGuard
Date Posted: 11 April 2006 at 5:02pm
The low pressure kit is almost entirely useless, and you will decide if you need a new barrel on your own after using the stock one. Try different masks and get one you like. HPA and a halo with rip-drive are expensive upgrades, and you may want to wait a while befor you pay out for something like that. ------------- Tippmann A-5 Polished Internals E-Grip Ape Board JCS Blade Trigger QEV 8" Bigshot + Apex Ricochet R-5 / Tac Cap Palmers Stabilizer 68/4500 Crossfire |
Posted By: maximum6
Date Posted: 12 April 2006 at 12:12am
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Is that all i need to play paintball with? gun/barrel/hopper/HPA
i already have a mask and pants.... |
Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 12 April 2006 at 11:03am
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^ And a good mask, try a V-force. Also a Pod pack and pods, NXe makes
very nice and inexpensive pod packs. I use the 4 pod harness.
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