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Topic: haha you got a HEMI
Posted By: Justice
Subject: haha you got a HEMI
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 10:06am

What are all these people buying up all these big trucks and cars with Hemi's in them going to do when gas hits 5-6 dollers a gallon in a few short years?....

There going to be loosing there butts when it comes time to sell them that's what!

 suckers.



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Posted By: TippmannPro13
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 10:47am
Gas will never hit 5-6 dollars a gallon.

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Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 11:04am

Want to make a friendly bet on that?

I bet within in 1-2 years it will be. Look at Europe now!



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Posted By: Predatorr
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 11:06am
does justice drive a gas friendly import?


Posted By: youm0nt
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 11:08am
what about hummers?


Posted By: TippmannPro13
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 11:08am
My dad is the Owner of Elliots Gas and Oil. I think I would know.

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Posted By: TRC1040
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 11:09am
gas will start to go down, there is no gas shortage now, in fact there is a surplus. and its the fact that a person can buy those kinds of cars not the gas. they are pleasure cars or or utility cars for well off people.

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Posted By: chettacheez
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 11:09am
Ever hear of of Multi-displacement system (MDS), it automatically shuts down 4 cylinders when full power isnt needed. So technically I can get 25 MPG and still blow the doors off your hybrid econocar.

So yea, you suck.


Posted By: TippmannPro13
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 11:11am

Originally posted by chettacheez chettacheez wrote:

Ever here of of Multi-displacement system (MDS), it automatically shuts down 4 cylinders when full power isnt needed. So technically I can get 20 MPG and still blow the doors off your hybrid econocar.

So yea, you suck.

PWNED!



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Posted By: Predatorr
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 11:11am
what do you drive?


Posted By: TippmannPro13
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 11:12am
me?

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Posted By: TRC1040
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 11:14am
Europe sucks, you made a good piont Justice, look at Europe now look at us, see the differences? we have a better econemey, more people have jobs, and there is a higher litracy rate. there is no way in heck that we will end up like our far away brothers. Yuo want to make us even better, get a job buy stuff from the US , if you can, and sell stuff. help money flow through the system.

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Posted By: Predatorr
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 11:16am
no i meant chettacheez car with that system that shuts down the cylinders


Posted By: TippmannPro13
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 11:17am
Justice is gettin' PWNED

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Posted By: chettacheez
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 11:19am
Originally posted by Predatorr Predatorr wrote:

no i meant chettacheez car with that system that shuts down the cylinders


I dont drive one, The Hemi Grand Cherokee, 300c, new Ram, and Magnum are equipped with it.

Me I drive a 1992 and 1998 Jeep Cherokee 4.0


Posted By: Predatorr
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 11:23am
ohh, i dont drive yet.  But next summer i get my charger and me n my dad are remaking the general lee minus the flag...people around here dont take kindly to that flag.


Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 11:25am

Originally posted by chettacheez chettacheez wrote:

Ever hear of of Multi-displacement system (MDS), it automatically shuts down 4 cylinders when full power isnt needed. So technically I can get 25 MPG and still blow the doors off your hybrid econocar.

So yea, you suck.

Did I say I drive an import ya tosser? As a matter of fact I own a 99 Gran Marqui, Ford Ranger and a motorcycle that will eat your oversized gas guzzler any day of the week for a snack.

I just dont see the price of gas going down. Each time I goto the pump it's a few pennies more.

Yeah I know we have a better economy and have a higher demand for gas and that's why we dont pay so much for our gas like the europeans. But if the current trend continues we will see 5 bucks a gallon which sucks.

I see so many people that buy Hummers and Hemi's or some other bahemith vehicle and driving 10 under the damn speed limit yakin on there cell phones all the time. Just park it!

Mind you I like the idea of finally putting a Hemi in a car again (where it belongs) but trucks arent made to be race cars! bah! Sorry I'm an old timer that like good old hot rods, not these new dumb trucks with over sized motors.

I like the new GTO, Mustang's and the new Charger. I would own one of those anyday and make it my sunday driver.

 



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Posted By: chettacheez
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 11:33am
Haha, you think a Cherokee is an oversized gas guzzler. I think youve been guzzlin too many beers...

Oh and now that where on the topic of my cars faster than yours, I got an mid 8 sec Mustang pushing 33# of boost. So there!


Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 11:38am

Originally posted by TRC1040 TRC1040 wrote:

Europe sucks, you made a good piont Justice, look at Europe now look at us, see the differences? we have a better econemey, more people have jobs, and there is a higher litracy rate.

On what planet does the US have a higher literacy rate than any Western European country? 

(Having a higher literacy rate than Azerbaijan is nothing to brag about)

But, while you are comparing, compare teen pregnancy rates, abortion rates, divorce rates, teen sexuality rates, crime rates, violent crime rates, poverty rates, drug use, high school math skills, high school science skills, language skills...

I could go on.



Posted By: VisionIMP
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 12:00pm
If gas its 5-6 miles a gallon ill ride my bike to work.

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Posted By: cockersrock
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 12:20pm
Originally posted by VisionIMP VisionIMP wrote:

If gas its 5-6 miles a gallon ill ride my bike to work.


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Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 12:31pm

Originally posted by cockersrock cockersrock wrote:

Originally posted by VisionIMP VisionIMP wrote:

If gas its 5-6 miles a gallon ill ride my bike to work.

I wished I lived closer to work or I would ride to work. But everyday storms and a 55 mile commute mostly on I-95 I will stick to my lil truck. The wife gets the V8 with here 10 minute commute.

BTW, dont the flamming rules apply to all the Tippmann forums and all the members? Why do some of you gold and up members like to flame so much "You Suck" as mentioned above and why isnt anything done about it?

 



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Posted By: TRC1040
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 12:37pm
Originally posted by Justice Justice wrote:

Mind you I like the idea of finally putting a Hemi in a car again (where it belongs) but trucks arent made to be race cars! bah! Sorry I'm an old timer that like good old hot rods, not these new dumb trucks with over sized motors.

I like the new GTO, Mustang's and the new Charger. I would own one of those anyday and make it my sunday driver.

The hemi isnt to make the car go fast, the hemi is a high tourq type of engin. making it easier on it to pull heavier stuff, if put into a light weight car then it goes faster. do get into this fight with the hill billys up north like me, it seems at though we know more about cars than you.



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Posted By: MetallicaESPa5
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 12:37pm
Gas sucks.

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Posted By: TRC1040
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 12:39pm
Cokersrock you are going to get kicked off this forum if you dont change that image of yours

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Posted By: Apu
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 12:41pm
Hes not going to get kicked off...

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Posted By: TRC1040
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 12:43pm
you can clearly see the nips

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Posted By: chettacheez
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 12:59pm
Originally posted by TRC1040 TRC1040 wrote:

Originally posted by Justice Justice wrote:


Mind you I like the idea of finally putting a Hemi in a car again (where it belongs) but trucks arent made to be race cars! bah! Sorry I'm an old timer that like good old hot rods, not these new dumb trucks with over sized motors.


I like the new GTO, Mustang's and the new Charger. I would own one of those anyday and make it my sunday driver.



The hemi isnt to make the car go fast, the hemi is a high tourq type of engin. making it easier on it to pull heavier stuff, if put into a light weight car then it goes faster. do get into this fight with the hill billys up north like me, it seems at though we know more about cars than you.



Actually you seem not to know much about cars either....



Posted By: holysmartone
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 1:09pm
I drive a 1985 dodge ram 3/4 ton pickup. Its got a bored out 360 V8 in it, which makes it at least a 5.9 liter. I drinks through gas, and I dont care. The reason I dont care, is because A) I support american vehicles and B) I use it to haul lots of stuff.


Posted By: chettacheez
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 1:11pm
Originally posted by holysmartone holysmartone wrote:

I drive a 1985 dodge ram 3/4 ton pickup. Its got a bored out 360 V8 in
it, which makes it at least a 5.9 liter. I drinks through gas, and I
dont care. The reason I dont care, is because A) I support american
vehicles and B) I use it to haul lots of stuff.


360 is a 5.9, Im swapping a 360 into my 318(5.2) GC and thinking about stroking it down the road. If its done corectly a Stroked 360 (408/6.7) can get 18 mpg easily.


Posted By: Predatorr
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 1:56pm
Originally posted by chettacheez chettacheez wrote:

Originally posted by TRC1040 TRC1040 wrote:

Originally posted by Justice Justice wrote:


Mind you I like the idea of finally putting a Hemi in a car again (where it belongs) but trucks arent made to be race cars! bah! Sorry I'm an old timer that like good old hot rods, not these new dumb trucks with over sized motors.


I like the new GTO, Mustang's and the new Charger. I would own one of those anyday and make it my sunday driver.



The hemi isnt to make the car go fast, the hemi is a high tourq type of engin. making it easier on it to pull heavier stuff, if put into a light weight car then it goes faster. do get into this fight with the hill billys up north like me, it seems at though we know more about cars than you.



Actually you seem not to know much about cars either....

hemispherical engine is for more power (torque).  When you increase your torque, then your brake horsepower has to go up too.  Hence more power.  he really doesnt know much about cars.



Posted By: Predatorr
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 1:56pm

Originally posted by TRC1040 TRC1040 wrote:

you can clearly see the nips

i like cheese nips



Posted By: Dan Long
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 1:57pm
they are rather delicous cheez-its are WAY better though

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Posted By: Predatorr
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 1:59pm

which ones are more salty?

 



Posted By: oreomann33
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 2:12pm
Originally posted by TRC1040 TRC1040 wrote:

Europe sucks, you made a good piont Justice, look at Europe now look at us, see the differences? we have a better econemey, more people have jobs, and there is a higher litracy rate. there is no way in heck that we will end up like our far away brothers. Yuo want to make us even better, get a job buy stuff from the US , if you can, and sell stuff. help money flow through the system.

And our penises are bigger to, YEAH!


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Posted By: Dragunov
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 2:14pm
Originally posted by Justice Justice wrote:

Originally posted by cockersrock cockersrock wrote:

Originally posted by VisionIMP VisionIMP wrote:

If gas its 5-6 miles a gallon ill ride my bike to work.

I wished I lived closer to work or I would ride to work. But everyday storms and a 55 mile commute mostly on I-95 I will stick to my lil truck. The wife gets the V8 with here 10 minute commute.

BTW, dont the flamming rules apply to all the Tippmann forums and all the members? Why do some of you gold and up members like to flame so much "You Suck" as mentioned above and why isnt anything done about it?

 



Originally posted by Justice Justice wrote:


Did I say I drive an import ya tosser? 



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Posted By: agentwhale007.
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 3:20pm

To all you people saying gas will NEVER hit 5-6 bucks a gallon....You know oil is an expendible fuel right? We will run out of it some day...

BTW, I am trying to cut back on gas, I just got a 1949 Vespa moped which I am trying to refurbish, and hopefully will have it running soon.



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Posted By: chettacheez
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 3:22pm
Originally posted by agentwhale007. agentwhale007. wrote:

To all you people saying gas will NEVER hit 5-6 bucks a gallon....You know oil is an expendible fuel right? We will run out of it some day...


BTW, I am trying to cut back on gas, I just got a 1949 Vespa moped which I am trying to refurbish, and hopefully will have it running soon.



Sweet, got any pics, how about some info....I love mopeds, my friends honda spree kicks major ass.


Posted By: agentwhale007.
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 3:27pm
Originally posted by chettacheez chettacheez wrote:

Originally posted by agentwhale007. agentwhale007. wrote:

To all you people saying gas will NEVER hit 5-6 bucks a gallon....You know oil is an expendible fuel right? We will run out of it some day...


BTW, I am trying to cut back on gas, I just got a 1949 Vespa moped which I am trying to refurbish, and hopefully will have it running soon.



Sweet, got any pics, how about some info....I love mopeds, my friends honda spree kicks major ass.

No pics yet. I dont have it yet, I have to wait untill a friend I know with a pickup can go with me to haul it to my house.

It seems to be in good condition. 2 cycle motor, seems to be an auto shifter, seeing as I know nothing about mopeds and if there is a gear shift....I cant find it. The back tire is blown, and some of the wiring is rotted out. Other than that it seems to be in good condition for being 50 some odd years old. Cosmeticly there is just some rust, no dents or anything.

 



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Posted By: jesus freak
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 3:32pm
Originally posted by Clark Kent Clark Kent wrote:

Originally posted by TRC1040 TRC1040 wrote:

Europe sucks, you made a good piont Justice, look at Europe now look at us, see the differences? we have a better econemey, more people have jobs, and there is a higher litracy rate.

On what planet does the US have a higher literacy rate than any Western European country? 

(Having a higher literacy rate than Azerbaijan is nothing to brag about)

But, while you are comparing, compare teen pregnancy rates, abortion rates, divorce rates, teen sexuality rates, crime rates, violent crime rates, poverty rates, drug use, high school math skills, high school science skills, language skills...

I could go on.



Someone besides me actually pays attention to goings on of the world.

Also consider this.  With the rate of inflation as it is the US doller is loosing value . . . quickly where as the Euro is gaining value and strengthening their economies working together.  The euro is wrth more than the us doller and has been from the start.

The US has such a wide array of societal issues that could be addressed.  If you think we have a high literacy rate you're whacked.  look at Japan . . . dear god.  Try 3/4 of Americans being literate.

For another example Europeans don't have "drinking ages"  like the US.  The results are kids who do not abuse alcohol because they haev already drank it in moderation and don't find it to be such a big deal when they become adult.


Cars are not cool.  ME has an e-bike . . . And we are thinking about putting solar pannels in to heat and power our house.


Posted By: Homer J
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 3:41pm
Originally posted by chettacheez chettacheez wrote:

Originally posted by Predatorr Predatorr wrote:

no i meant chettacheez car with that system that shuts down the cylinders


I dont drive one, The Hemi Grand Cherokee, 300c, new Ram, and Magnum are equipped with it.

Me I drive a 1992 and 1998 Jeep Cherokee 4.0

What about Charger and Durango?


Posted By: chettacheez
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 4:29pm
Originally posted by Homer J Homer J wrote:

Originally posted by chettacheez chettacheez wrote:

Originally posted by Predatorr Predatorr wrote:

no i meant chettacheez car with that system that shuts down the cylinders


I dont drive one, The Hemi Grand Cherokee, 300c, new Ram, and Magnum are equipped with it.

Me I drive a 1992 and 1998 Jeep Cherokee 4.0

What about Charger and Durango?


Probably.


Posted By: Fat Stalin
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 4:43pm
Originally posted by Clark Kent Clark Kent wrote:

Originally posted by TRC1040 TRC1040 wrote:

Europe sucks, you made a good piont Justice, look at Europe now look at us, see the differences? we have a better econemey, more people have jobs, and there is a higher litracy rate.

On what planet does the US have a higher literacy rate than any Western European country? 

(Having a higher literacy rate than Azerbaijan is nothing to brag about)

But, while you are comparing, compare teen pregnancy rates, abortion rates, divorce rates, teen sexuality rates, crime rates, violent crime rates, poverty rates, drug use, high school math skills, high school science skills, language skills...

I could go on.


If it's so much better, leave.



Here are Interpol 2001 crime statistics (rate per 100,000):

  • 4161 - US
  • 7736 - Germany
  • 6941 - France
  • 9927 - England and Wales

Thus the US has a substantially lower crime rate than the major European countries!

Here are the Interpol 1995 crime statistics (rate per 100,000):

  • 5278 - US
  • 8179 - Germany
  • 6316 - France
  • 7206 - England & Wales
That's from here http://www.tinyvital.com/BlogArchives/000220.html - http://www.tinyvital.com/BlogArchives/000220.html



Posted By: the_blade
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 5:14pm
Originally posted by chettacheez chettacheez wrote:

Haha, you think a Cherokee is an oversized gas guzzler. I think youve been guzzlin too many beers...

Oh and now that where on the topic of my cars faster than yours, I got an mid 8 sec Mustang pushing 33# of boost. So there!



can i ask what stage and make of the turbo system you got cause thats alot of psi.


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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 5:15pm
Thats probly a supercharger homie.

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Posted By: chettacheez
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 5:42pm
Originally posted by the_blade the_blade wrote:


Originally posted by chettacheez chettacheez wrote:

Haha, you think a Cherokee is an oversized gas guzzler. I think youve been guzzlin too many beers...

Oh and now that where on the topic of my cars faster than yours, I
got an mid 8 sec Mustang pushing 33# of boost. So there!



can i ask what stage and make of the turbo system you got cause thats alot of psi.


Vortech YSi supercharger


Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 5:48pm
Originally posted by Fat Stalin Fat Stalin wrote:

Originally posted by Clark Kent Clark Kent wrote:

On what planet does the US have a higher literacy rate than any Western European country? 

(Having a higher literacy rate than Azerbaijan is nothing to brag about)

But, while you are comparing, compare teen pregnancy rates, abortion rates, divorce rates, teen sexuality rates, crime rates, violent crime rates, poverty rates, drug use, high school math skills, high school science skills, language skills...

I could go on.


If it's so much better, leave.

 

I won't even bother responding to that idiotic statement.

 

But:

(The following data was arbitrarily selected.  Better and more up-to-date data is probably available someplace.  Find it yourself before complaining about mine.)

Comparative abortion rates:  http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0922117.html - http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0922117.html


Teenage pregnancy:  http://www.agi-usa.org/pubs/journals/3201400.html - http://www.agi-usa.org/pubs/journals/3201400.html


CIA factbook - looked up literacy rates, life expectancy, infant mortality for the http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/us.html - US , and arbitrarily checked http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/sp.html - Spain , http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/no.html - Norway , and http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/fr.html - France as well.  Results:

Literacy: 

US - 97%
Spain - 97.9%
Norway - 100%
France - 99%

Life expectancy (years):

US - 77.71
Spain - 79.52
Norway - 79.4
France - 79.6

Infant mortality (per thousand births):

US - 6.5
Spain - 4.42
Norway - 3.7
France - 4.26

 

Check here for divorce rates:  http://teentalkonline.tripod.com/world_statistics.htm - http://teentalkonline.tripod.com/world_statistics.htm   - Check both columns.

For math and science skills, I stand at least partially corrected:  http://nces.ed.gov/timss/TIMSS03Tables.asp?Quest=3&Figure=6 - http://nces.ed.gov/timss/TIMSS03Tables.asp?Quest=3&Figur e=6   and  http://nces.ed.gov/timss/TIMSS03Tables.asp?Quest=3&Figure=5 - http://nces.ed.gov/timss/TIMSS03Tables.asp?Quest=3&Figur e=5

Originally posted by Fat Stalin Fat Stalin wrote:

Here are Interpol 2001 crime statistics (rate per 100,000):

  • 4161 - US
  • 7736 - Germany
  • 6941 - France
  • 9927 - England and Wales

Thus the US has a substantially lower crime rate than the major European countries!

As for crime, I would take this info with a grain of salt, as Interpol does not release crime statistics to the public.  I also question the designation of certain countries as "major".  I don't think the rest of Europe would approve.

That said, I was unable to find any decisive crime stats myself, so I withdraw this point.

 

BUT - I reiterate my underlying point:  That any claim that the US is universally "better" than other developed nations is flawed.  The US has significant warts.  Simply declaring ourselves "the best" is not a useful exercise.  Admitting our faults is the first step towards fixing them.  How can our infant mortality rate, for instance, possibly be acceptable?  We claim to have the best health care system in the world, but our babies die at almost 150% of the rate of Spanish babies.  This cannot stand.



Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 6:48pm
I can see why some people buys these big ol Dodges. Dont get me wrong I would love to own one but for 1, I cannot afford another payment, 2 my drive to work is pretty long and 3 I dont need to haul anything. So yes I agree some people do need a powerfull truck.

But come on pple, dont you see a trend? Just like what happened to the real Harley riders that all these rich urban bikers (rubs) hit the scene and make a mokery of the tradition of owning a real American made piece of machinery. Same thing, you used to see mainly blue collar guys driving around trucks and the old ram chargers and suburbans, whatever... now ya see mainly soccer moms and yuppy 20 year olds buying these things.

I dont know.... I'm just sick of seeing them I guess. Whatever happened to the Buick V6? That Gran National was sweet back in the 80's. Why wasnt that ever improved? Heck the japs have v6's and some fours hitting the 300hp mark. 300hp in a 1800 pound (with some work) man I bet that darn thing screams and gets much better gas milage than anything I own, except for the bike.



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Posted By: Heres To You
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 6:55pm
Originally posted by Clark Kent Clark Kent wrote:

Originally posted by Fat Stalin Fat Stalin wrote:

Originally posted by Clark Kent Clark Kent wrote:

On what planet does the US have a higher literacy rate than any Western European country? 

(Having a higher literacy rate than Azerbaijan is nothing to brag about)

But, while you are comparing, compare teen pregnancy rates, abortion rates, divorce rates, teen sexuality rates, crime rates, violent crime rates, poverty rates, drug use, high school math skills, high school science skills, language skills...

I could go on.


If it's so much better, leave.

 

I won't even bother responding to that idiotic statement.

 

But:

(The following data was arbitrarily selected.  Better and more up-to-date data is probably available someplace.  Find it yourself before complaining about mine.)

Comparative abortion rates:  http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0922117.html - http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0922117.html


Teenage pregnancy:  http://www.agi-usa.org/pubs/journals/3201400.html - http://www.agi-usa.org/pubs/journals/3201400.html


CIA factbook - looked up literacy rates, life expectancy, infant mortality for the http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/us.html - US , and arbitrarily checked http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/sp.html - Spain , http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/no.html - Norway , and http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/fr.html - France as well.  Results:

Literacy: 

US - 97%
Spain - 97.9%
Norway - 100%
France - 99%

Life expectancy (years):

US - 77.71
Spain - 79.52
Norway - 79.4
France - 79.6

Infant mortality (per thousand births):

US - 6.5
Spain - 4.42
Norway - 3.7
France - 4.26

 

Check here for divorce rates:  http://teentalkonline.tripod.com/world_statistics.htm - http://teentalkonline.tripod.com/world_statistics.htm   - Check both columns.

For math and science skills, I stand at least partially corrected:  http://nces.ed.gov/timss/TIMSS03Tables.asp?Quest=3&Figure=6 - http://nces.ed.gov/timss/TIMSS03Tables.asp?Quest=3&Figur e=6   and  http://nces.ed.gov/timss/TIMSS03Tables.asp?Quest=3&Figure=5 - http://nces.ed.gov/timss/TIMSS03Tables.asp?Quest=3&Figur e=5

Originally posted by Fat Stalin Fat Stalin wrote:

Here are Interpol 2001 crime statistics (rate per 100,000):

  • 4161 - US
  • 7736 - Germany
  • 6941 - France
  • 9927 - England and Wales

Thus the US has a substantially lower crime rate than the major European countries!

As for crime, I would take this info with a grain of salt, as Interpol does not release crime statistics to the public.  I also question the designation of certain countries as "major".  I don't think the rest of Europe would approve.

That said, I was unable to find any decisive crime stats myself, so I withdraw this point.

 

BUT - I reiterate my underlying point:  That any claim that the US is universally "better" than other developed nations is flawed.  The US has significant warts.  Simply declaring ourselves "the best" is not a useful exercise.  Admitting our faults is the first step towards fixing them.  How can our infant mortality rate, for instance, possibly be acceptable?  We claim to have the best health care system in the world, but our babies die at almost 150% of the rate of Spanish babies.  This cannot stand.



I love how you put Abortion with all those other "bad" things, when supposedly nothing is being harmed...


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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 8:41pm

Originally posted by Heres To You Heres To You wrote:

I love how you put Abortion with all those other "bad" things, when supposedly nothing is being harmed...

Huh?  Says who?

Most people - including most pro-choicers - think abortions are bad.  I certainly think abortions are bad.



Posted By: tippmannboy2
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 9:30pm
Ok my dad gets 18-22 mpg in his 2002 gmc 1500 4x4 5.3l (327) v8 My moms ford explorer with a 4.0l v6 gets 15-19 Im thinking that you dont know what your talking about. My dad gets great miliege around town and on the highway and still gets better than my moms v6 towin our 30 foot travel tralier. Now that doesnt seem like a wast of money does it         &nbs p;       owned bizatch

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Posted By: Apu
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 9:31pm
Originally posted by Justice Justice wrote:

I can see why some people buys these big ol Dodges. Dont get me wrong I would love to own one but for 1, I cannot afford another payment, 2 my drive to work is pretty long and 3 I dont need to haul anything. So yes I agree some people do need a powerfull truck.

But come on pple, dont you see a trend? Just like what happened to the real Harley riders that all these rich urban bikers (rubs) hit the scene and make a mokery of the tradition of owning a real American made piece of machinery. Same thing, you used to see mainly blue collar guys driving around trucks and the old ram chargers and suburbans, whatever... now ya see mainly soccer moms and yuppy 20 year olds buying these things.

I dont know.... I'm just sick of seeing them I guess. Whatever happened to the Buick V6? That Gran National was sweet back in the 80's. Why wasnt that ever improved? Heck the japs have v6's and some fours hitting the 300hp mark. 300hp in a 1800 pound (with some work) man I bet that darn thing screams and gets much better gas milage than anything I own, except for the bike.

That is the stupidest thing I have ever read. So you're saying that even though a "Rich Urban Biker" may enjoy riding motorcycles they shouldn't just because they arent a "Real Harley rider"? I would imagine if you ride a Harley than you are a real Harley rider.


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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 9:33pm

Here in Milwaukee, at least, everybody is a biker at heart.

:)



Posted By: tippmannboy2
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 9:38pm
I would rather have a honda over a harley anyday, cheaper, same performance, better quality, and many other better caractirictiscs (sp?)

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Posted By: hwayhzrd
Date Posted: 11 August 2005 at 9:39pm
Originally posted by TippmannPro13 TippmannPro13 wrote:

Originally posted by chettacheez chettacheez wrote:

Ever here of of Multi-displacement system (MDS), it automatically shuts down 4 cylinders when full power isnt needed. So technically I can get 20 MPG and still blow the doors off your hybrid econocar.

So yea, you suck.

PWNED!


Amen! I'm keeping a V-8 in my driveway while I BBQ a spotted owl ...


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If I flee, kill me

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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 12 August 2005 at 12:35am

Originally posted by tippmannboy2 tippmannboy2 wrote:

I would rather have a honda over a harley anyday, cheaper, same performance, better quality, and many other better caractirictiscs (sp?)

But you won't get that patented Harley chug-chug, and you will get beaten up if you ever come to Wisconsin.

:)



Posted By: holysmartone
Date Posted: 12 August 2005 at 1:25am
Originally posted by hwayhzrd hwayhzrd wrote:

Originally posted by TippmannPro13 TippmannPro13 wrote:

Originally posted by chettacheez chettacheez wrote:

Ever here of of Multi-displacement system (MDS), it automatically shuts down 4 cylinders when full power isnt needed. So technically I can get 20 MPG and still blow the doors off your hybrid econocar.

So yea, you suck.

PWNED!


Amen! I'm keeping a V-8 in my driveway while I BBQ a spotted owl ...

Wow, thats awesome. I prefer snow owl though...


Posted By: the_blade
Date Posted: 12 August 2005 at 1:49pm
Originally posted by chettacheez chettacheez wrote:

Originally posted by the_blade the_blade wrote:


Originally posted by chettacheez chettacheez wrote:

Haha, you think a Cherokee is an oversized gas guzzler. I think youve been guzzlin too many beers...

Oh and now that where on the topic of my cars faster than yours, I
got an mid 8 sec Mustang pushing 33# of boost. So there!



can i ask what stage and make of the turbo system you got cause thats alot of psi.


Vortech YSi supercharger


nice

Im thinking of getting a chll factory turbo and  boost like 10  or 12 psi


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