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Topic: Tippmann Pro Lite
Posted By: Soybean
Subject: Tippmann Pro Lite
Date Posted: 21 August 2005 at 6:41pm
My son just bought a tippmann Pro Lite on E-bay.  It worked fine for the first 100 balls.  Now it does not recock.  He has to manuelly recock it to shoot.  It is not low on C02.  Does anybody have any ideas?  We took it apart and used a little WD-40.  That did not help.  thanks



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Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 21 August 2005 at 6:55pm
well open it up again and clean out all the WD-40, and replace all the or-ings you put it on. WD-40 breaks down rubber.

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Posted By: Soybean
Date Posted: 21 August 2005 at 7:11pm
We did not put any WD-40 on any O-rings, just in the trigger mechanism.  We couldn't find where to get the bolt out to check the O-rings.  Are bad O-rings a likely problem?  Thanks for the WD-40 info.


Posted By: whack-a-mole
Date Posted: 21 August 2005 at 9:05pm
ah, WD-40! don't use that get some hopps gun oil. Check your o-rings. Yes, o-rings could be the problem. You could try completly cleaning it and then oiling it?

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Posted By: clownshooter
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 2:09pm
You have to remove the rear sight by removing the two (2)  allen screws that hold it in place. Turn the Pro-Lite upside down and the linkage rod will fall out (It connects the front and rear bolts). Then remove (unscrew) the end cap on the receiver and remove the rubber buffer washer, drive spring, and drive spring guide (it looks like a nail). Slide the rear bolt back until the cocking knob lines up with the circular hole at the end of the slot the knob travels in. Pull the cocking knob out through the circular hole. You should then be able to slide the rear bolt out the back of the receiver. Reverse procedure for re-assembly.


Posted By: Cormier
Date Posted: 29 August 2005 at 4:32pm
low on c02? lol

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Posted By: bluemunky42
Date Posted: 31 August 2005 at 5:39pm
Originally posted by Cormier Cormier wrote:

low on c02? lol

read the post before you reply. he clearly stated he is not low on co2.

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Posted By: lalaland
Date Posted: 06 September 2005 at 7:40am
I bought an A5 from my mate last year to replace my C98 and he'd used WD40 and claimed it was only on the external parts.

The marker had problems and wouldn't work properly. I took it to a Tippmann store (the only one in the UK) and had them look at it.

They told me that someone had put WD40 inside it or it had worked its way inside and knackered my O rings. I bought an o ring kit and they did a service on it for me. Worked good as new after that, but the one thing I learnt from that was do not use WD40 on any part of your marker, it will find it's way inside and cause problems.

I would suspect that's your problem based on you mentioning the WD40 above.


Posted By: Soybean
Date Posted: 07 September 2005 at 8:03pm
thanks a lot to all who replyed I got my gun working again 


Posted By: buffaloman
Date Posted: 05 June 2006 at 1:49pm

does anyone have an exploded view of a Pro-Lite

please contact me at mailto:buffaloman90@hotmail.com - buffaloman90@hotmail.com and I can give you a fax #

Been looking for one for a couple weeks and no luck



Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 05 June 2006 at 2:37pm
I just googled it and no luck. Call Tippmann and ask them yo send you an owners manual.

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Posted By: Jmann4567
Date Posted: 05 June 2006 at 4:14pm
wd-40 is a big no-no.

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Posted By: BigRob
Date Posted: 06 June 2006 at 11:30pm
why would you use wd-40 when gun oil costs about the same?

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Posted By: scooter patrol
Date Posted: 27 September 2006 at 12:02am
I just had the same problem. First download the pro/carbine pdf manual off the Tippmann website. The pro-lite is basically the same gun. follow the instruction to breakdown the gun. Your problem is a worn main spring. If you pull out the spring and measure it, you will come up with about 4" to 4-1/2" long. This spring should be much longer. The spring losses tension and can't spring back to re-cock the rear bolt. A good cleaning with the proper oil from your local paintball supply won't hurt either. If the gun is not leaking air( you will hear it leaking) then all your seals are fine. I hope you have the same luck success as I did. My pro-lite shots like new. I constantly have to turn down from shooting too hot

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Posted By: panhead4411
Date Posted: 08 September 2008 at 9:49pm
 

So, i'm having the same problem, i just got a Pro Lite from a garage sale.  After stripping and cleaning, lubing and reassembling, (i'm the owner of now 7 markers, and maintain all of them) the gun 'farts' and does not recock.  My first thoughts are it could be either the spring is either too tight, or too loose, or there is a problem with the upper valve mechanism, i've had to replace that part in a 98 previously.

After reading, i decided to check my spring length, it is just a shy under 6".  Since you didn't post what the spring "should" ideally measure, i can only assume that this particular spring is not 'too worn.'  After some experimenting, the gun will work properly while i am velocity spiking it by holding it down so the liquid CO2 flows into the gun. This is not an ideal method of play, so i want to make it work at a normal elevation.

Based on my tests i've ruled out the possiblity of the valve being bad, so my attempts now will be to stretch the spring, or compress the spring.  Stretching did not work, as it still needs the spiking to fire properly.  I am now compressing the spring to test my last theory.  Without cutting the spring, this could take a while.

Any input would be appreciated.



Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 09 September 2008 at 6:41pm
Any recocking problems, look at the sear and rear bolt first. See if the edges where they meet are worn down.

Second, check the o-ring on the rear bolt.

Finally, this is unique to the prolite and carbine style guns, check and see if the linkage arm is bent. If its slightly bent it can cause excess friction.


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Posted By: panhead4411
Date Posted: 10 September 2008 at 11:02pm
So, i'm getting tired or waiting for my spring to compress naturally (leaving it cocked), and am thinking about cutting a bit off the spring to achieve the same ends, but how easy is it to order the drive spring for a pro-lite, as from what i can tell, they no longer manufacture the pro-lite. (incase this does not work)


Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 11 September 2008 at 5:25pm

http://www.tippmannparts.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=catalog.catalog&categoryID=40 - http://www.tippmannparts.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=catalog.ca talog&categoryID=40

I think its on this page.



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Posted By: panhead4411
Date Posted: 11 September 2008 at 5:52pm

holy cow, that spring is spossed to be 7" long...i may end up trying to stretch it a bit more then...but i don't see how one would manage to mash that thing back into the gun, its got enough resistance at 6.3"....wow

But is that any ideas on if it may be something wrong w/ the main valve mechanism itself. (only working while being spiked)

Thanks for the info so far though!

*edit*

Ummm, yeah, so at 7", this not physically possible, i honestly don't think i will be able to wrangle the spring back into the gun

**edit**

So, i somehow managed to get it in, but it still would not recock, so i started to shorten the spring, this still made no difference in the recocking.  So, now i'm gna have to buy a new spring, and its looking like i'll have to replace the main valve mechanism, which i hope i can still purchase as it says "discontinued".

***edit***

Okay, so i've now (after close inspection of the whole valve mechanism (wow, that thing is not made to come out with any small amount of effort, but it is better than a 98), i discovered that there may be another way of solving my problem.  The valve pin that is on the drive hammer's side seemed rather close in size to the whole it poked through, so i just filed of a section of the pin to allow for more airflow to push the hammer back.  I have to wait till morning to test it, but i have high hopes (crossing my fingers i didn't allow TOO much airflow).



Posted By: panhead4411
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 8:52pm

Brand new parts arived today, i instantly installed the new drive spring (after much effort) and the gun will still fart and not recock.

There is one thing that, from the start i dismissed as a design flaw, i'm hear an awful lot of extra scraping when i manually cock the gun, like every single metal piece is rubbing against each other.  But there is no way to avoid this from what i can see of the gun.  everything is where it needs to be, but the rear hammer sounds to be rubbing a good bit, as well as random other parts.

From what i can tell, the drive-spring guide pin is the only thing that guides the rear hammer.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!



Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 02 October 2008 at 8:41pm
Look at what I posted. Check the linkage arm, make sure its not bent or it will rub.

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Posted By: panhead4411
Date Posted: 04 October 2008 at 12:16am

gee, after reading this entire thread thread three times, why didn't i think of that....maybe i should check that....oh wait, i already did, three times...

i know your used to ppl coming onto this forum that are perty clueless, but i do maintain now 9 guns, only two of which are the same.  I'm a fairly experienced mechanically minded person, who through all my efforts, and observations cannot solve this problem.  If it were as simple as a bent linkage arm, i would not have even looked at replacing ANY parts as i would have straightend it and the gun would have worked, and i never would have posted anything.

I have disassembled this gun (including the main valve body) more than once, and reassembled, trying to see a cause.  The only thing i can see is that this gun is not designed as well (in the rear hammer area) as the 98. But i'm at a loss and frankly fed up and tired of dealing with it.

next?



Posted By: mechanikmike
Date Posted: 04 October 2008 at 10:09am
I've been having the same problem with one I am repairing for a friend, it
had a leak but it cycled fine so I rebuilt it and then I had the problem, just
found on another site that a common cause of problems is the main valve
stop, a small square of metal 1/4"x1/4"x1/8" falls out the bottom of the
marker when the marker is disassembled that holds the valve from moving
back and forth in the receiver so the hammer makes proper contact with the
valve, I'm now going to tear this place apart to see if I can find it, just a
thought I found on another site that might be the missing piece of the
puzzle


Posted By: mechanikmike
Date Posted: 05 October 2008 at 11:25am
last 2 things I found that finally got the one I'm working on working right,
the red colored front bolt o-ring I got with the tippmann o-ring kit from my
local store was way too tight of a fit to the receiver causing too much drag I
swapped it for one from my A-5 parts kit and that helped out, but it still
would double fire and sometimes keep running, I found the sear was
rounded out a bit and ground it back to a nice sharp edge and put it back
together and now finally it works right


Posted By: panhead4411
Date Posted: 05 October 2008 at 12:07pm

Yeah, i'm definately not missing that square piece, and i think i replaced the orings on everything when i first took it apart, but i'll go ahead and check again.

I'll check the sear, but i'm really not looking forward to trying to wrangle that drive spring back into place again.... (oddly, now my 98, and Spyder are having the same problem)



Posted By: mechanikmike
Date Posted: 05 October 2008 at 7:16pm
you don't have to touch the main spring to check either part, just take the
rear sight off and pull the link and then remove the barrel to get to the
bolt, and i checked the o-ring fit just by using the link from the top to
move the bolt back and forth, and as far as the sear just pull the handle
off and no need to play with the main spring, I can't help with the 98 or
spyder too much, only worked on one spyder and it's about the same as
any blow back marker, the only thing i can think of for the 98 is if you
either have a response trigger or the cyclone feed installed they can
cause the problem as well as after market power tubes, i've had both give
me that problem with my A-5 but don't forget the simple things, make
sure the tank is screwed in far enough/not too far as either one can cause
a problem with the gas pressure, and make sure the main springs and
sears aren't worn round, good luck



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