Ben Tippmann "any good?"
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Topic: Ben Tippmann "any good?"
Posted By: SAS proud 2 luv
Subject: Ben Tippmann "any good?"
Date Posted: 26 August 2005 at 1:35pm
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i was thinking of getting my mate a ben tippmann gun for £150 which i saved since last year are they any good or should i get a a5 which i can get for £165 british pounds
------------- Tippmann A5 Double trigger Bigshot Nvader goggle system Class 3 Laser sight I SOLD THE REST |
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Posted By: Hella Cool
Date Posted: 26 August 2005 at 3:29pm
| A-5 |
Posted By: ShortyBP
Date Posted: 26 August 2005 at 3:40pm
| I think either will be fine. |
Posted By: SAS proud 2 luv
Date Posted: 26 August 2005 at 4:13pm
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but are the B.T any good
------------- Tippmann A5 Double trigger Bigshot Nvader goggle system Class 3 Laser sight I SOLD THE REST |
Posted By: MoNkeY Hunter
Date Posted: 26 August 2005 at 5:27pm
| go to pbreview.com and see for your self. |
Posted By: SAS proud 2 luv
Date Posted: 27 August 2005 at 6:59am
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WTF is that cheek i see^^^ no need ------------- Tippmann A5 Double trigger Bigshot Nvader goggle system Class 3 Laser sight I SOLD THE REST |
Posted By: Roll Tide
Date Posted: 27 August 2005 at 4:36pm
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Calm down. He was just saying to go do some research for yourself. ------------- <Removed sig for violation of Clause 4 of the New Sig Rules> 
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Posted By: MeanMan
Date Posted: 27 August 2005 at 7:17pm
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you get mad over little things he was just trying to help ------------- 
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Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 2:13am
| i wouldnt recomend it, it looks to me like a knock-off tippmann, so id play it safe and just buy an a-5 |
Posted By: SAS proud 2 luv
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 7:21pm
your the one whos called mean man ------------- Tippmann A5 Double trigger Bigshot Nvader goggle system Class 3 Laser sight I SOLD THE REST |
MeanMan wrote:Posted By: Sargent Duck
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 10:22pm
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I'd stick with genuine Tippmann guns myself. Of course, I'd personally
go for a 98C myself, but if it's between the A5 and Ben Tippmann gun,
I'd go with the A-5.
------------- Ref: I want a nice clean game player: but it's paintball! |
Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 29 August 2005 at 3:56am
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bt didn't get very good reviews, so idk. They are a division of Tippmann i'm pretty sure. ------------- X |
Posted By: tippy a5
Date Posted: 29 August 2005 at 1:27pm
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no it is a diff company same family though ------------- Tippmann A5 Tippmann double trigger Smartparts Progressive 16" E-Grip Empire reverse spike Jersey 05' Proto Pants PMI 72/3000 Soon to Come WAS board reg QEV mod new barrel |
Posted By: MoNkeY Hunter
Date Posted: 29 August 2005 at 10:35pm
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I thot Ben Tippmann desighed the A5? IF so the Ben Tippmann guns probly preform like tippmanns but I COULD BE WRONG, they look like crap tho, and the A5 has the cyclone and is way more upgradable so id say A5. |
Posted By: rossy11223
Date Posted: 30 August 2005 at 2:43pm
| A-5. Get a gun you know will work great. |
Posted By: mod98commando
Date Posted: 01 September 2005 at 5:00pm
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I own an A5 so I can say from experience that it's a good gun but I
have no experience with BT stuff at the moment. They seem to be based
off the design of the A5 though so they shouldn't be too far from it in
terms of performance. I'm not sure about upgrades though, they might
share upgrades or they might not. I can only recommend the A5 but you
can give BT a try if you want.
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Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 01 September 2005 at 8:39pm
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Posted By: dreadnaught
Date Posted: 15 September 2005 at 1:14pm
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thought Ben Tippmann and Tippmann Pneumatics are, as clearly stated by both, different companys, their markers use a lot of the same parts IE" the BT-16 uses an A-5 valve " they are both highly upgradeable and i would recomend either but the A-5 is the best for the money because of the cyclone feed ------------- Cheaters never prosper ... but they live longer |
Posted By: 636andy636
Date Posted: 15 September 2005 at 2:19pm
Guys give him a break hes from the UK " Freshin your drink GOVNA " |
Posted By: Seipher
Date Posted: 16 September 2005 at 5:29pm
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about the pbreview.com thing, its a website that gives reviews of paintball products. we americans (and a few canadians) are lazy people, so we just suggust going to pbreview and getting the info on your own. no big deal. -------------  in modern warfare, victory goes to the nutcase with the biggest explosions.
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Posted By: CDrew92
Date Posted: 16 June 2006 at 12:17am
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bt is the same as tippmann they both have the same internals and bt is made by tippmann |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 16 June 2006 at 2:19am
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you know, this is a VERY old post. was it necessary to bump? ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell" 
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Posted By: MeanMan
Date Posted: 16 June 2006 at 3:58pm
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hey hes new, welcome to the forum -------------
hybrid-sniper~"To be honest, if I see a player still using an Impulse I'm going to question their motives." |
Posted By: CDrew92
Date Posted: 16 June 2006 at 4:03pm
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who cares |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 16 June 2006 at 4:09pm
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if you check, about everyone other than your self. mean man is just being nice, and i was gonna consider being nicer, but if you are gonna get an attitude, well i dont know do i? bumping rediculously old posts is severely frouned upon here. like it or not. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: thornygravy
Date Posted: 17 June 2006 at 6:23pm
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looks like it would be way ezier to get upgrades for an A-5 than a BT ------------- -Tippy 98c -Polished Interns. -RD Double Trig. -5'' Drop -j+j ceram 14'' -12v revy x-board -SmartParts Grips -Pen Spring Mod -Milled Rear Sight -Filled Front Grip -Blue Paint job |
Posted By: CDrew92
Date Posted: 18 June 2006 at 1:06am
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bt and tippmanns can take the same ups and bt is more relilable. bts r just as easey 2 pute ups onalso. |
Posted By: darkmaster
Date Posted: 30 June 2006 at 10:41am
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BT is not the same thing as Tippmann!!!!!! call Tippmann and ask. BT markers are low quality and assembled by retarted children in some third world country. Out of the 15 that my friend sold he had 10 come back to him and i had to spend hours replacing the screws that hold the front shroud and ball detent in. Also i saw a lot of barrels with major flaws inside them, flaws that would prevent them from being even remotely usable.The company was not the easyest to deal with either, they would not send any dealer drop boxes so every time we had a barrel that sucked we had to ship each one individualy so there was reletivily no profit made of selling those markers. My friend has since stopped carrying the BT line and he allways has kids come to buy Tippmann upgrades, opening them throwing out the packaging and then bringing them back because they wont fit on their BT markers. I dont know how Ben Tippmann doesnt get sued by Tippmann Pnuematics ------------- Dopa mi la tempesta (After me, The storm) |
Posted By: Rico's Revenge
Date Posted: 30 June 2006 at 11:46am
| "I wanna be a cowboy." |
Posted By: CDrew92
Date Posted: 30 June 2006 at 1:49pm
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bt is the same as a tippmann i have a bt and a custom pro i switch parts all the time so bt is a tippmann |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 30 June 2006 at 5:03pm
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bt<<<<<<<<tippmann. bt = benjamin tippmann, dennis tippmann's (the founder of tippmann pneumatics) nephew. they were in a massive legal battle over the rights of design ideas or something like that. the reason bt's are like tippmanns is because he jacked the ideas. thats one reason why we arent too crazy about them. another is quality. becuase you can switch parts, does not make the gun more reliable than tippmanns. my local field rents out bt's, and all of the staff says they suck. there is always a big pile of guns that need to be repaired over at the repair area. they are not worth it. they are cheap, crappy guns that wish they could be 98c's. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 01 July 2006 at 1:26am
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^^^sounds like a smartparts wannabe... ------------- X |
Posted By: Mousehunter
Date Posted: 01 July 2006 at 10:51am
No, it's really not, a few years back they were in a legal battle about designs, they are not the same company, and BT will never reach the quality or performance of Tippmann Pneumatics. Sure, you can switch parts, only because BT is a lowlife who stole design ideas because he couldn't think of any himself. |
Posted By: CDrew92
Date Posted: 02 July 2006 at 1:42pm
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dennis tippmann is ben tippmann's uncle. dennis let ben make the guns |
Posted By: RavenGuard
Date Posted: 02 July 2006 at 5:39pm
you DON'T GET IT. Ben Tippmann Designs and Tippmann Pneumatics are two seperate companies. Ben Tippmann worked for Tippmann Pneumatics, and later left the company, essentially stealing a whole bunch of the designs to go make his own line of guns. If you want to argue, you can go read http://www.tippmann.com/about_us/pressReleaseDetails.aspx?id=21 - THIS first. Be careful what you say here, especially when you're new. The people on these forums know Tippmann well. ------------- Tippmann A-5 Polished Internals E-Grip Ape Board JCS Blade Trigger QEV 8" Bigshot + Apex Ricochet R-5 / Tac Cap Palmers Stabilizer 68/4500 Crossfire |
Posted By: CDrew92
Date Posted: 03 July 2006 at 12:22am
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well thare is no diff in the design other than the name.
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Posted By: RavenGuard
Date Posted: 04 July 2006 at 10:45am
which is why BT was sued :P ------------- Tippmann A-5 Polished Internals E-Grip Ape Board JCS Blade Trigger QEV 8" Bigshot + Apex Ricochet R-5 / Tac Cap Palmers Stabilizer 68/4500 Crossfire |
Posted By: CDrew92
Date Posted: 04 July 2006 at 12:05pm
no they wernt |
Posted By: Squishey
Date Posted: 04 July 2006 at 5:31pm
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if an a-5 is only another 15$ then go for it.
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 05 July 2006 at 1:28am
http://www.tippmann.com/about_us/pressReleaseDetails.aspx?id=21 - link <--- read that...
that means "sued." ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 05 July 2006 at 2:10am
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meh the bts are for someone who wants a cheap milsim gun that they dont have to buy any upgrades for ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: RavenGuard
Date Posted: 05 July 2006 at 8:06pm
...some people.... i swear.... ------------- Tippmann A-5 Polished Internals E-Grip Ape Board JCS Blade Trigger QEV 8" Bigshot + Apex Ricochet R-5 / Tac Cap Palmers Stabilizer 68/4500 Crossfire |
Posted By: CDrew92
Date Posted: 06 July 2006 at 1:08am
| look who is talking mr.bt apex |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 06 July 2006 at 1:10am
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that really isnt the point, so that retort is discredited. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: CDrew92
Date Posted: 06 July 2006 at 2:15pm
| the point is we all like diffrent things |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 06 July 2006 at 8:26pm
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meh. i agree with that. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: RavenGuard
Date Posted: 07 July 2006 at 10:56am
LOL! No, the point is YOU said BT and Tippmann are the SAME THING, and I never said BT was a horrible company, i said they stole Tippmann ideas... what's wrong with me having an Apex? It wouldn't matter if they were the worst company in the world, they're the only ones with a patent and the only place the get it... Oh, and then you said "they weren't sued", probably after not reading the joint press release. ------------- Tippmann A-5 Polished Internals E-Grip Ape Board JCS Blade Trigger QEV 8" Bigshot + Apex Ricochet R-5 / Tac Cap Palmers Stabilizer 68/4500 Crossfire |
Posted By: Snakebite1967
Date Posted: 07 July 2006 at 9:38pm
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Man i see this argument everywhere first of BT isnt a knock of company, Ben holds the patents on several key Tippmann products when the Tippmann family sold out he left in disgust and opened BT.
the new company (Summit) brought in their own CEO and managers but retained some Tippmanns on the board, their markers will be made abroard as of this year, they did try to sue Ben and hes still in biz.
BT is made in the states and is of a very high quality the BT16 isnt as good as the BT4 which uses A5 barrels and 98c internals, the marker itself is a better gun out of the box and cheaper and if your into milsim its much easier to achieve a look than the 98c, the only Tippmann up it at present cant use is the Cyclone due to the feedneck diference.
The marker is very well made and growing in popularity, why spend a fortune milsimming a 98c or A5 when the BT range already comes with ther furniture at a way cheaper price.
Let the flamming commence |
Posted By: CDrew92
Date Posted: 08 July 2006 at 10:32pm
i agree |
Posted By: yankeefan03
Date Posted: 11 July 2006 at 9:31pm
I agree man you can sort of think. That BT is like the old Tippmann considering its made here in the states. While the Tippmanns now are foreign made. I say get a BT-4 Assault they are as durable as a Tippmann and it is incredibly accurate. |
Posted By: Snakebite1967
Date Posted: 12 July 2006 at 9:16am
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Id say BT is the new Tippmann American made and very rugged, they didnt sell out.
I somtimes get grief on fields but only before a game then ppl want to know more, i still own my 4 year old 98c its all original and its been thru hell, but its American made and i will never sell it.
My only hope is that Tippmann doesnt turn into Brass Eagle |
Posted By: capcadetspencer
Date Posted: 15 July 2006 at 1:15pm
I will start by pointing out that you spelled flaming wrong.... ------------- To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift -Steve Prefontaine |
Posted By: Cyberdemon
Date Posted: 15 July 2006 at 11:22pm
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that bt-4 ironhorse looks pretty sweet... ------------- http://imageshack.us"> 
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Posted By: Cyberdemon
Date Posted: 15 July 2006 at 11:26pm
I will start by pointing out that you spelled flaming wrong.... ------------- http://imageshack.us">
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Posted By: Markle
Date Posted: 16 July 2006 at 12:00pm
| a-5 for sure |
Posted By: CDrew92
Date Posted: 17 July 2006 at 5:12pm
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tippmanns are still american made |
Posted By: CDrew92
Date Posted: 17 July 2006 at 5:13pm
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atleast i think so not sure though |
Posted By: RavenGuard
Date Posted: 18 July 2006 at 10:58am
Ummm... The patents are held by Tippmann Sports LLC. Ben Tippmann himself does not own the patents, therefor tippmann would have a right to take legal action if he were to reproduce the same patented materials. *ALL TIPPMANN STUFF IS MADE IN THE UNITED STATES!!!* They have 2 production facilities, both in the states. I don't see why that matters anyways... everything else anyone buys isn't :P ------------- Tippmann A-5 Polished Internals E-Grip Ape Board JCS Blade Trigger QEV 8" Bigshot + Apex Ricochet R-5 / Tac Cap Palmers Stabilizer 68/4500 Crossfire |
Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 19 July 2006 at 6:52am
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so what is the point anymore? i lost track... this thread stopped making sence... well, to summerize, i think...: bt=sueing bastards, but still make a quality product, much like smart parts... am i right? or are they just completely evil... ------------- X |
Posted By: DVLCHLD
Date Posted: 20 July 2006 at 8:34pm
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Thank god some of you guys know what's going on. The first half of this thread was rediculous. Ben Tippmann did work at Tippmann. When steps were being taken by Tippmann to sell out to a huge conglomerate company that only cares about profits, Ben Tippmann was the ONLY member of the Tippmann family with the integrity to stand up and say NO! we do not need to sell the company. He faught the sale of Tippmann but was out voted by the other members of the family. He left to start BT Paintball Designs. Ben Tippmann did not initiate the lawsuits between Tippmann and BT Paintball Designs, Tippmann did. Since Ben Tippmann designed the Tippmann markers saying that the BT markers are Tippmann knock-offs is silly. The BT line of markers is the same if not better quality than Tippmann. Some members of this forum will make up stories to try to convince you otherwise. Don't believe it. I'm a Tippmann fanatic! I love Tippmann, but that's no reason to badmouth BT markers. BT markers are very nice with innovative features. If you like Tippmanns you'll like BT markers just as much. TRUTH-SPREAD IT!!!!!!!!!! ------------- I've never seen anyone own the woods because of what marker they use. |
Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 21 July 2006 at 2:06am
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^back it up.... where did you get this info... ------------- X |
Posted By: DVLCHLD
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 3:14pm
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WHAT?! Where did I get this info? Have you been under a rock for the past few years? I don't know how some people can call themselves paintballers and not know the story behind thier favorite manufacturers. This is all common knowledge. I read every paintball magazine I can get my hands on. I read the press releases on manufacturers web sites. I purchase the markers and put them through hell to test them. Wake up and smell the paint. BT stands for Ben Tippmann. He didn't agree with selling the Tippmann Co. to a huge conglomerate so he left. He didn't want to abandon the loyal fans so he's doing everything he can to make sure we will always have quality, dependable markers. ------------- I've never seen anyone own the woods because of what marker they use. |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 8:59pm
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That doesn't prove anything. Proof plz. Links, scans, photos, etc. Till then, too bad. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: TEHGANGSTER
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 9:59pm
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wow, he left so he would make more money, not "for the loyalty of his fans" he makes plastic markers that look real for kids that want to buy a ready made fake military gun.......
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Posted By: old fart
Date Posted: 02 August 2006 at 6:51pm
| A-5 allready proven itself as a reliable marker, plus Tippy's repairs and maintence is unbeatable |