A Friggin kid
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Topic: A Friggin kid
Posted By: Hoytshooter
Subject: A Friggin kid
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 4:49pm
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Last night my freind came over to shoot bows and just started crying. He was saying " Im to young for this, Im to stupid, stupid , stupid, stupid. Shes only 17, Im 19." And we just found out that his 17 year old girlfreind is pregnant. Her parents dont want her around him. (they hate his guts) She is moving in with him next week and Im sad for him and happy for him at the same time. Sorry if its a stupid place but I just need a place vent ------------- I shoot a Hoyt http://img414.imageshack.us/my.php?image=theusgovrnsucks6xn.png"> 
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 4:52pm
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Yay for statutory rape!
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Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 4:54pm
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Sorry to hear that, but he should have been more careful.
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Posted By: NotDaveEllis
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 4:54pm
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Sorry for what I"m about to say
They'll never last She'll drop out of school Her mom will become the kids mom while her daughter at 19 struggles to get her GED Your friend will pay child support The kid will be **edited**ed up. I'll reposses his penis for him, and he can have it back when he's ready. |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 4:55pm
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I don't tell anyone this. But once upon a time. I got a girl pregnant. She was a lot older than me. By about five years. I think I was 17, she was 22. I actualy wanted to have the child. She did to. She ended up having a miscarage. I took it pretty hard. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Mehs
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 4:57pm
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DAVE! WATCH OUT! YOU MIGHT GET ANOTHER STRIKE! ------------- [IMG]http://i27.tinypic.com/1538fbc.jpg"> Squeeze Box ☣ |
Posted By: agentwhale007.
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 4:57pm
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http://www.livejournal.com - www.livejournal.com A better place for this. ------------- Hey, nice marmot!  |
Posted By: Hoytshooter
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 5:02pm
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She was on birth control, but Dave its the other way around. Her parents wont have anything to with the kid, and they arent even planning to get married becuase they only were together for the sex. He will take responsibility and his parents will help out alot. She wont have anything to do with. ------------- I shoot a Hoyt http://img414.imageshack.us/my.php?image=theusgovrnsucks6xn.png">
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Posted By: agentwhale007.
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 5:07pm
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Except the whole, you know, birthing the child. I say you tell him to take the easy way out.
Scrambled eggs anyone? ------------- Hey, nice marmot! |
Hoytshooter wrote:Posted By: Hysteria
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 5:08pm
| I hate to say it, but they need to get an abortion. Dave is right. This is going to screw their lives up bad. |
Posted By: cadet_sergeant
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 5:08pm
| how do you know shes pregnant? she could just be late with her cycle, it happens when; girls go under 10% (i think) body fat, are under a lot of stress, or their cycle can change due to a close relationship with friends. im in no way a doctor, RN, or LPN, just dumb stuff i've picked up. |
Posted By: xteam
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 5:12pm
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Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 5:13pm
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 5:22pm
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Yeah the coat hanger is in very poor taste. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: agentwhale007.
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 5:25pm
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I love the taste of fresh scrambled eggs personally... ------------- Hey, nice marmot! |
Posted By: Hoytshooter
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 5:32pm
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No abortion is not an option, at all. I dont and all the people I assciate myself with dont believe in abortion. But the baby will be fine, his parents are loaded and very good people. And two EPTs dont lie. And my sister who is indeed an RN in the neonatul (?) unit gave her some test. ------------- I shoot a Hoyt http://img414.imageshack.us/my.php?image=theusgovrnsucks6xn.png">
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Posted By: Pate
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 5:33pm
Now THAT looks like a quality coat hanger.
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Posted By: Heres To You
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 5:41pm
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My ex-girlfriend was late before. Scariest feeling ever.... And I've nearly drowned once  Anyway, I wouldn't say the abortion is the way to go. I'll leave it at that as to not start a debate on this serious thread. Anyway, things are NEVER as bad as they seem. Everything happens for a reason. And don't listen to everyone else. He only becomes a victim of the stereotype if he allows himself too. The majority of those people fall into that and accept it. He and she can still do anything they choose too, it will just be alot harder, and may take more time. ------------- |
Posted By: Jim Paint
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 5:44pm
Thats murder. I don't care if the law says it or not, thats murder. ------------- 
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 5:44pm
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My sister sucks because of her to kids. She has like permanent self esteme issues. And shes poor because of her other kid yazi. She still lives at home and shes like 25. She got turned down for low income houseing... Because of her credit score. It must be HORRIBLE! I think the whole thing is hilarious. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Hoytshooter
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 5:45pm
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Yeah that was my first words, "god makes everything happen for a reason and he has something planned for that little guy (hopefully little guy lol)"
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 5:46pm
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Sure. But this is a result of your friends actions. Not gods. She wasnt just going to get pregnant out of the blue. This isnt a case of god making or willing something to happen, this is all on your friend. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: madpaintballer
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 5:48pm
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Well if the parents already know about it wouldnt it at least be a good idea to consider adoption if neither of them are willing or responsible enough to take care of this child. I could see if you never wanted anyone to find out abortion is the way to go but since everyone knows it might be good to consider it. ------------- "Killing is my business...and business is good." |
Posted By: bluemunky42
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 5:48pm
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i'm not for abortion, but if need be, it has to be done. i mean people get murdered every day. they are someones baby. ------------- 
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 5:49pm
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I like adoption. My boy Andrew just met his Birth Mom. He was really happy about it. Tell your friend adoption is an option. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Heres To You
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 5:51pm
But God allowed it. ------------- |
Posted By: Heres To You
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 5:52pm
Yes, I prefer adoption way more than abortion. PLUS- My parents get back from China Wendesday when I get to meet my new sister (adopted). After two years of paperwork, she'll finally be here. ------------- |
Posted By: Darur
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 5:52pm
God isnt emergency contraception . . . ------------- Real Men play Tuba [IMG]http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1859/newsmall6xz.jpg"> PH33R TEH 1337 Dwarf! http://www.tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/log_off_user.asp" rel="nofollow - DONT CLICK ME!!1 |
Posted By: Heres To You
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 5:55pm
But God allowed it. IMHO, I think that if God saw no possible way either one of these two adults could make anything out of their lives with the child, he would have never allowed it to happen. Now wether or not you believe my opinion is up to you, which doesn't bother me. ------------- |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 5:56pm
Exactly.. God isn't an overprotective parent. He is an observent parent. When you were outside playing, and you fell, did your mother catch you before you hit, or did she let you play and get a skinned knee. This is a skinned knee. It is not gods responsiblity to make sure your life is easy and to make sure nothing bad happans to you.. This situation is in direct result of your friends actions. If you want to go the god route. God let this situation bite your friend in the but. And it will bite HARD. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Fat Stalin
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 6:24pm
Free choice. People get murdered every day and he doesn't stop them. To the thread starter - Here in Florida, if you have a baby the mother can drop the baby off at a firestation no questions asked within the first 3 days of birth. Adoption might be a better choice than an abortion. Check out if it's like that in your state. ------------- 
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 6:27pm
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We can have his girlfriend stand in between my car and the car I rear ended this morning. That will fix the problem... ------------- 
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 6:29pm
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You rearended a car. How did that come about? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Jim Paint
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 6:30pm
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Hades, abortion isn't funny. It's very poor taste. -------------
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 6:42pm
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Some lady and a passenger were trying to make a left over a double yellow and no turn lane. They were completely stopped with no tail lights working and not using the left turn signal. I didnt realize they were stopped so by the time I braked it was too late. I swerved to the right but I stll made contact. It collapsed their rear and busted their rear windsheild. Crappy Honda' I was driving a van so there was moderate left front end damage. The insurance companies are going to have to battle this one out. I also got a ticket for not having proof of current insurance with me. I am guessing I am going to get stuck with the fault. Oh well. I was on my way to paintball and still went afterwards.
I wasnt suggesting abortion, but rather murder which is a laughing matter.  -------------
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Posted By: mbro
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 6:45pm
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Keep your sausage in it's wrapper before you stick it in the bun ------------- 
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Posted By: Jim Paint
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 6:47pm
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Good luck with the car..... I don't understand how you can get two counts of murder for killing a pregnant woman, but abortion is legal. And I really am surprised you're saying this... -------------
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Posted By: Jim Paint
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 6:49pm
Make sure Willy wears his raincoat when he goes to play in the cave. Â -------------
saepe fidelis |
Posted By: mbro
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 6:49pm
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Jim would you like to borrow a soap box or do you have your own? -------------
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos. |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 6:50pm
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I was going down the road 30 MPH about, and this woman in lane 3, crosses over lanes one and two to make a left hand turn. Almost made a horrible crash. I swerved leaned on my horn, missed the car in lane one and the woman making the turn. Very scary. I gave her an earful. She had kids in the car too. 3 inches either way there woulda been an accident. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Jim Paint
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 6:54pm
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People stick up so much for a murderer, but then will throw away a life that hasn't done anything wrong. Im not trying to be a preacher. -------------
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 6:55pm
It is the way the law is written. Here is an example of CA law. 187. (a) Murder is the unlawful killing of a human being, or a fetus, with malice aforethought. (b) This section shall not apply to any person who commits an act that results in the death of a fetus if any of the following apply: (1) The act complied with the Therapeutic Abortion Act, Article 2 (commencing with Section 123400) of Chapter 2 of Part 2 of Division 106 of the Health and Safety Code. (2) The act was committed by a holder of a physician's and surgeon' s certificate, as defined in the Business and Professions Code, in a case where, to a medical certainty, the result of childbirth would be death of the mother of the fetus or where her death from childbirth, although not medically certain, would be substantially certain or more likely than not. (3) The act was solicited, aided, abetted, or consented to by the mother of the fetus. (c) Subdivision (b) shall not be construed to prohibit the prosecution of any person under any other provision of law. -------------
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Posted By: Jim Paint
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 6:59pm
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So you think abortion is fine and dandy until its considered a fetus?
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 7:01pm
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I personally think it is okay till the 3rd trimester. I need to look into a Bio book to refresh and to see it that is when the growing cells is called a fetus. -------------
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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 7:02pm
Sadly Thats All true. But Getting a Abortion is far worse in my opinion. ------------- 
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Posted By: Jim Paint
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 7:03pm
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Thats your opinion, so keep it however you believe. But still, theres no reason to joke about it.
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Posted By: mbro
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 7:04pm
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 7:05pm
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Oh before this gets thrown in my face later in this thread, I am not in any way endorsing the couple discussed in this thread to abort the baby. It isnt any of my business.
But in general I support the for everyone to choose. Three months really isnt enough time, trust me. Some couples dont even know they are indeed preganant till after the 3rd month. -------------
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Posted By: Jim Paint
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 7:05pm
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Can the baby choose? So many democrats defend animals and trees but not an actual baby. I figure I can use this arguement, of defeding those without a voice. -------------
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 7:10pm
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I dont see it as a baby at that point. I see it as a potiential baby developing into a human, but not quite there yet.
Sometimes parents, or in some cases the mother, needs to make the executive decision. Just like some parents, spouse, legal authorities have to sometimes decide to pull the pugs on life support systems. I dont care for the animals nor the trees, nor am I a liberal or Democrat -------------
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Posted By: Jim Paint
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 7:12pm
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:/ whatever, lets just drop it.
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Posted By: Impulse.
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 7:14pm
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If a fetus is a life/or human. Why isn't there a funeral after a mis-carriage? A pregnant woman and a slinky do have something in comin. ------------- [IMG]http://www.word-detective.com/berry.gif"> |
Posted By: Jim Paint
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 7:15pm
Yea, I know your too good for a party. I dont consider myself a repulican, but I definitely lean to the right. -------------
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Posted By: Jim Paint
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 7:16pm
If a fetus isn't a human, why can a baby be born premature? -------------
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Posted By: Heres To You
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 7:18pm
Because we know thats what happens to every child born of teenager parents  ------------- |
Posted By: Impulse.
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 7:20pm
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If they baby is born pre-mature it would die without advanced medical care. So god doesn't want it to live but the hospitals take over his decision. ------------- [IMG]http://www.word-detective.com/berry.gif"> |
Posted By: Heres To You
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 7:23pm
I'm pretty sure God doesn't want anyone to die, but he allows some things to happen. What if the baby had a condition, it died, and the mother seeking comfort in her situation resorts to a christian friend and ends up finding salvation? It would have never happened if the child hadn't have died. I'm not saying God kills anyone, but he does allow things to happen. ------------- |
Posted By: Heres To You
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 7:24pm
And I realize that not everyone chooses christianity, I'm just saying this through my point of view. ------------- |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 7:24pm
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Eh, if the there is a miscariage and the hospital takes care of it. It is god that made this possible. So many way you can look at one subject when your talking about religion. I dont think because a baby was a premie god wants it to die. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Monk
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 7:26pm
| In this case abortion should not happen. I can see abortion if the parents are abusive or it was rape. But these kids knew what they were doing when they did it. They should have just kept it in thier pants. |
Posted By: Jim Paint
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 7:26pm
Not all the time... -------------
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Posted By: Impulse.
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 7:27pm
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Allow things to happen. Wow that made me laugh pretty good. I'm not a religous person. If someone dies and you believe in god, he killed them for a reason. For A: he didn't like them B: to somehow help someone else by the death of another person. God sounds a murderer to me. He just let's them die for some reason to benefit other people. Sounds like a great idea to me. People die from diseases, injuries,age, and murder. Not, " God allowed him to die for the greater cause" ------------- [IMG]http://www.word-detective.com/berry.gif"> |
Posted By: Jim Paint
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 7:29pm
You have a pitiful religious view. Don't try and back up your decision to not go to church because you're yoo lazy to get up on Sunday morning. -------------
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Posted By: Heres To You
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 7:29pm
God kills people because he doesn't like them? Even a non-religious person can tell thats a little farfetched. Yes, I do believe that God allows them some people to die, not always to benefit other people, but I'm sure he has a reason to do so. And why would God kill a baby? It has no personality, so he would be killing a baby completely against your point #A. ------------- |
Posted By: Impulse.
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 7:36pm
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Jim Paint: You don't have to go to church Sunday morning to be religous. Here's to you: God god won't kill a baby because he doesn't like him. That's why I allowed the second option. Letter B And babies don't die from mis-carriages due to god allows it. It's purely medical. And saying my idea's a far fetched about god. Every religion is far fetched. Your basing you life off a book and stories. A book full of stories that high simulates greek mythology isn't hard evidence of anything. Until the "rapture" happens which I know will not, then I will believe. ------------- [IMG]http://www.word-detective.com/berry.gif"> |
Posted By: Jim Paint
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 7:37pm
I know. But more often than not I find out people choose to be aethiest because they don't want to get up. -------------
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Posted By: Impulse.
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 7:42pm
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No, I just have better things to do. I rather work Sunday morning's then listen to a bunch of BS Religion was started to instill fear in people to keep them in line and give them fale hope. Before there was a government and laws they used the 10 commandments as a set of rules everyone should follow and they did in fear that they would go to hell. Also when you have people living in severe poverty and have nothing to live for they had religion and heaven to give them hope that their after life would be a whole lot better than their crappy current one. ------------- [IMG]http://www.word-detective.com/berry.gif"> |
Posted By: Heres To You
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 7:44pm
In which you know it will not? What are you basing this on? Belief? You sounded so sure, and we all know basing any of your opinions on belief alone is simply put...... stupid. Right? And there is good amount of evidence that follows the bible, but I'm sure you havn't even took the time to google a website because your "belief" is so strong there isn't a religion there's no point in it, correct? I question my religion everyday. One would be stupid not too, considering your running your life around it, correct? But I've never found anything IN THE BIBLE (not opinionative, unlessed backed by the bible), to turn me in another direction. So until I do, I shall remain in the christian faith. And PS- The Greek MYTHology as you call it contains many Gods. My religion contains one. BIG difference. ------------- |
Posted By: Frozen Balls
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 7:44pm
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Well, duh. Waking up at 9am after a hard night of partying is not a choice activity for me. I'm not atheist. ------------- 
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Posted By: Heres To You
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 7:47pm
No, it just means your not following the bible. You can be a christian and still drink, your just not doing as the bible says. A "true" chirstian could refuse alcohol (nobody said easily) if they really wanted to. ------------- |
Posted By: Apu
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 7:48pm
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I just absolutely love everybody in this thread that said something
about God, as if they know for a fact that God exists, sure enough as
they had a round of drinks with him last Thursday night. And the
"Everything happens for a reason" idea, is total bull. You're telling
me that if I stub my toe, God had a reason for making me do that? k.. ------------- I need a new Sig... |
Posted By: Impulse.
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 7:48pm
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Isn't it that you can drink, but not drink to get drunk? ------------- [IMG]http://www.word-detective.com/berry.gif"> |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 8:07pm
Exactly, god doesnt run around making things happen. God can at times intervein and make his presence known. But your friend getting pregnant is his own doing. Not gods, so dont go saying, "Oh this is a blessing, everything happens for a reason through god" And of course god kills people. He has done it countless times. In the bible, if you take it literaly, he either sent an angel to do it, or let a demon do it. There is a passage in the bible that reads like. "I am all things, from me all things flow, i am the good, i am the pain and the darkness." God isnt a cheery british chap with rosey cheeks and thick rimmed glasses wishing everyone a merry christmas. He is a tempermental and fearful god, who, if you mess with, he will make your head into a canoe. In the bible, god lead the isrealites through the desert to the reid sea. Then he let the flood waters come back and wiped out the entire egyption army, drowning them all. Thats killing. He hired a demon called Asathoth to kill this ladies husbands one after another. Did it 9 different times, then he stopped. My point is god isnt a person that doesnt want anything to happen to you, and doesnt want to baby you. He probly doesnt even care. But that isnt the point, the point is he is there, and he demands your respect, he will help you and give you what you need, but dont expect anything more. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 8:13pm
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 8:23pm
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Well the no birth control thing goes hand in hand with pre-marital sex. And lust. The extreme rightist view in the vatican says that sex is purely for procreation. I am one to say that sex was given to us as a gift to be had with our husbands and wives. But on the issue of premarital sex, i guess i can say, i am a man, not a saint.
They decided to have sex, for all i know god figured, k im going to let you learn from a pregnancy maybe next time you wont use a girl for sex. Lust is a sin too, but, that again, is a sin i am very guilty of. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Predatorr
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 8:38pm
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Funny this should come up, i was watching court TV and a dude got a girl pregnant on her 18th birthday as a "gift". It was her first time and she was legal. He broke the rubber during intercourse, thus leaving his seed in her body. Now her parents got angry that she was pregnant, and decided to sue the guy. The daughter couldn't handle a baby mentally and decided to go with the parents. They ended up suing him and winning with the fact that...the baby died during birth while he was helping deliver the baby. Well this is somehow where they got him. By giving this girl a baby and another life, he was also giving her death and they sued him. It was the stupidest thing ive ever seen. |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 8:46pm
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This country is sue happy. I would think they would be mad that he broke the thing on pourpose. Thats like, false advertising or something. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Predatorr
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 8:49pm
| I think it was making a point with an individual. Making him an example of the dont get some just because you're 18 cause you'll end up with a kid. |
Posted By: Heres To You
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 8:53pm
I'm baptist, not catholic. So as far as catholicism, I'm not to sure. But my denomination says nothing against birth control. ------------- |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 8:54pm
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Baptists are very against pre-marital sex, i bet the condom issue is there too. But it's probly ok with your wife and all that. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Dye Playa
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 10:50pm
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i beilieve in god and im sure my dad does too. god deffinetly intervines. my dad went fishing on capecod, in the bay with 2 of his friends in a small row boat. the fog cam and they had no clue where they were going they went all the way around the tip and landed on race point- some of the roughest waters, huge ships get wrecked their all the time. oh yea, it was october, so the water was like 60*. the fog broke for a split second and they caught just a glimpse of a small light house. god deffinatly intervines. maybe to save others- cuz my dad matched the blood of a neighbor in need of it for a luchimia surgery. god deffinatly intervines- i am positive ------------- 
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 10:54pm
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Sure, things work out for whatever reason. But what im saying is god isnt an over protective parent. You are going to get mugged, you are going to get your knees scrapped up a bit. Bad things will happen to you its just how he likes stuff to work out or whatnot. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Geoduck
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 10:55pm
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Stop making babies and adopt poor ones!!! Do as I say. ------------- Calling Bush dumb is like calling a headless man blind. 
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Posted By: Geoduck
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 10:56pm
------------- Calling Bush dumb is like calling a headless man blind.
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 10:58pm
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Yeah. You ever hear about that joke between god and job? Job asks why god did all that stuff to him. And god says. "I guess there was something about you i didnt like." ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 11:00pm
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I cannot in good conscience let this stand unaddressed. Clarification/correction: There is a lot of scientific data that does not contradict the Bible, or that is consistent with some portion of the Bible, or is evidence of some historical element of the Bible. There is ZERO (that's ZERO) scientific evidence for the relevant portions of the Bible (the part about God and Jesus and all).
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Posted By: Geoduck
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 11:00pm
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Hee hee. God is a prick isn't he? New Orleans is going to turn into a giant lake soon with that hurricane.
------------- Calling Bush dumb is like calling a headless man blind.
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 11:03pm
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You should immediately adopt a dozen HIV-positive crack-babies to set a good example. Please report back. |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 11:06pm
I put them in private school and took them out of rotten neiborhoods. The church got them houseing. I take care of their tuition.
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 11:08pm
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Good for you. :) |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 28 August 2005 at 11:12pm
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Yeah. They are all really great kids. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: borntopaint
Date Posted: 29 August 2005 at 12:33am
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Well I wish him the best of luck. I hope everything works out for the childs sake.
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Posted By: Heres To You
Date Posted: 29 August 2005 at 9:59pm
Well, what about all the witnesses (many non-christian) who saw Jesus preform miracles? If I was a non-christian, why would I go out of my way to write something down unless it actually happened? What about the fossils on top of Mount Kilimajaro? It's kind of weird that fish could get on top of a mountain unless, there was like a, flood.... Or the chariots and armor at the bottom of the Red Sea dating back to bible times. I'm sure that story was just a rumor though.... And thats just what came to my head, there is plenty more if you care to research, but I doubt you will because anything thats a little biased (which all research is somewhat motivated by) doesn't fit your perception of "truth". ------------- |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 29 August 2005 at 11:59pm
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I read this book one time about this guy that went to Mars. Why would anybody write that down if it wasn't true? Apply your logic consistently. By your reasoning, the Norse gods exist, the Greek gods exist, the Sumatran gods exist, the old Chinese gods exist, Hamlet was the prince of Denmark, and Kelsey Grammar is a psychiatrist. People go out of their way to write down things that are false all the time. Sometimes they are wrong, sometimes they are lying, sometimes they are writing fiction.
Yes, a flood could have put them there. So could a zillion other things (like tectonics, for instance). That is evidence CONSISTENT with the Bible, not evidence that the central claims of the Bible are true. Massive difference.
Same. Maybe a ship sank?
I have done plenty of research. The biased one here is you. I have not stated anything at all about the truth of the Bible - you are simply assuming that you know my views. What I AM saying is that the evidence does not support your claim - not that your claim is false. Again, MASSIVE difference. Here is your logic: 1. If the Bulls win the championship, there is a celebration in Chicago. 2. There is a celebration in Chicago. Therefore, 3. The Bulls must have won the championship. That isn't evidence - it is a massive syllogistic fallacy. So I am back to my original statement: There is ZERO scientific evidence that the central claims of the Bible are true. ZERO. |
Posted By: Bolt3
Date Posted: 30 August 2005 at 12:50am
Yeah, the kid will be fine if the grandparents are loaded. (ie millionaires.) But it all depends on money. That's it. That's how well the kid will turn out. ------------- <Removed sig for violation of Clause 4 of the New Sig Rules> |
Posted By: Impulse.
Date Posted: 30 August 2005 at 12:54am
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Abortion> born into a world un-wanted. ------------- [IMG]http://www.word-detective.com/berry.gif"> |
Posted By: pb125
Date Posted: 30 August 2005 at 3:18am
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Heres to You: JACKSON MICHAEL!! Don't think I forgot. ------------- 
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 30 August 2005 at 3:35am
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You have the wrong person..... -------------
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Posted By: Jim Paint
Date Posted: 30 August 2005 at 3:10pm
I thought there was proof that Jesus of Nazareth did exist. -------------
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 30 August 2005 at 3:30pm
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Very possible - I don't know. There is certainly evidence that Pontius Pilate existed. But even if you prove that a person named Jesus existed, and was crucified by Pilate, that is not evidence of his divinity. That is the central point. Most fiction takes place in the "real world" at some point in history. Just because there actually was a person named Robin Hood doesn't mean that he looked like Kevin Costner. |