National Hispanic Heritage Month.
Printed From: Tippmann Paintball
Category: News And Views
Forum Name: Thoughts and Opinions
Forum Description: Got something you need to say?
URL: http://www.tippmannsports.com/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID=141170
Printed Date: 17 January 2026 at 8:15pm Software Version: Web Wiz Forums 12.04 - http://www.webwizforums.com
Topic: National Hispanic Heritage Month.
Posted By: Hades
Subject: National Hispanic Heritage Month.
Date Posted: 02 September 2005 at 9:03pm
For all of you less informed people that cry and moan during Feburary, let this be a lesson.
I will only reply to intellegent posts in this thread otherwise I will ignore all other posts.
http://www.cr.nps.gov/nr/feature/hispanic/ - Get some "smarts" at this link. Dont forget to celebrate Sept. 15th - Oct. 15th.
-------------
|
Replies:
Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 02 September 2005 at 9:04pm
Amen.
-------------
|
Posted By: bluemunky42
Date Posted: 02 September 2005 at 9:19pm
it seems there is a month for every race except white people. does anyone else find something wrong with that? we have heritage, too.
-------------
http://www.freewebs.com/hazedinsanity - http://www.freewebs.com/hazedinsanity
|
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 02 September 2005 at 9:20pm
Hah! Exactly the post I was looking for...
If you paid attention in your history class you wouldnt be whining now...
-------------
|
Posted By: Darur
Date Posted: 02 September 2005 at 9:26pm
Hades wrote:
Hah! Exactly the post I was looking for...
If you paid attention in your history class you wouldnt be whining now... |
Well, thats kind of like saying that the whites came and were big bullies so we pretend they dont have a history.
EDIT : Whoops, I forgot, your going to ignore any points to the contrary
------------- Real Men play Tuba
[IMG]http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1859/newsmall6xz.jpg">
PH33R TEH 1337 Dwarf!
http://www.tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/log_off_user.asp" rel="nofollow - DONT CLICK ME!!1
|
Posted By: WGP guy
Date Posted: 02 September 2005 at 9:33pm
Darur wrote:
whites came and were big bullies so we pretend they dont have a history. |
Yay! Finally people understand we need to give all government positions
and rights solely to black people in reperation for the extreme
oppression that the evil white people put on every single black person in this country!
|
Posted By: bluemunky42
Date Posted: 02 September 2005 at 9:36pm
has a black person, or any person other than white for that matter, ever run for president?
-------------
http://www.freewebs.com/hazedinsanity - http://www.freewebs.com/hazedinsanity
|
Posted By: bravecoward
Date Posted: 02 September 2005 at 9:37pm
bluemunky42 wrote:
has a black person, or any person other than white for that matter, ever run for president? | yes..
|
Posted By: Darur
Date Posted: 02 September 2005 at 9:38pm
bravecoward wrote:
bluemunky42 wrote:
has a black person, or any person
other than white for that matter, ever run for president? |
yes.. |
------------- Real Men play Tuba
[IMG]http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1859/newsmall6xz.jpg">
PH33R TEH 1337 Dwarf!
http://www.tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/log_off_user.asp" rel="nofollow - DONT CLICK ME!!1
|
Posted By: bluemunky42
Date Posted: 02 September 2005 at 9:40pm
really? when?
-edit- i googled it and came up with no satisfactory results.
-------------
http://www.freewebs.com/hazedinsanity - http://www.freewebs.com/hazedinsanity
|
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 02 September 2005 at 9:40pm
I am not against contary posts, but I think it is a waste of my time explaining over and over that these months are to raise awareness to the history that doesnt make it into the history books, not to say one culture is better than another by awarding them a month to celebrate.
edit...Too bad you didnt pay attention last february or you might be able to know that answer.
-------------
|
Posted By: Darur
Date Posted: 02 September 2005 at 9:45pm
Hades wrote:
I am not against contary posts, but I think it is a waste
of my time explaining over and over that these months are to raise
awareness to the history that doesnt make it into the history books,
not to say one culture is better than another by awarding them a month
to celebrate. |
Ah, but by giving every race except for Caucasians their own month its
like giving everyone a slice of cake because they had something bad
happen to them but not giving a slice of cake to the one person who had
an average year. Although you arent openly discriminating against
him its still hard on that one person.
Personally, I say give everyone their own month or do away with the
system. What happened to the whole "All men are created equal"
slogan?
------------- Real Men play Tuba
[IMG]http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1859/newsmall6xz.jpg">
PH33R TEH 1337 Dwarf!
http://www.tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/log_off_user.asp" rel="nofollow - DONT CLICK ME!!1
|
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 02 September 2005 at 9:47pm
Well, men and women both have awareness months and I know there is a trangendered month, so I am not sure who you think is left out and isnt included.
I am not trying to attack you, just the arguemnt there isnt a month for everyone.
-------------
|
Posted By: bluemunky42
Date Posted: 02 September 2005 at 9:52pm
i guess there are enough holidays about certain white people that it almost counts as a month... but as darur said, it's not exactly fair. not that i'd really celebrate, i mean who does? no one i know, at least. it just makes me uneasy, knowing that "we're all equal" yet we are the only race with out a "slice of cake".
-------------
http://www.freewebs.com/hazedinsanity - http://www.freewebs.com/hazedinsanity
|
Posted By: Darur
Date Posted: 02 September 2005 at 9:59pm
Hades wrote:
Well, men and women both have awareness months and I know
there is a trangendered month, so I am not sure who you think is left
out and isnt included. |
I was speaking racially . . .
And before we begin the endless flow of taunts from the left-wingers out there
calling it white man syndrom or whatever the hell their term is, bear
in mind we have the same stuff here, though I prefer to call it "poor
minority wannabe syndrom". Hawaiians dont need all the help they
get, a large group of them need support but the fat hogs at the top
take it all. Kamehameha Schools, OHA, they all stand for the
well-off Hawaiian that just wants more, the only Hawaiians that need
that stuff get nothing. Further more Hawaiians arent
discriminated against, were never enslaved and are doing very good.
In a place like Hawaii, a White History month would acctually be a good
idea. We are talking about a place where the Caucasian race is so
greatly underrepresented that a pure Caucasian when asked his ethnicity
will say "haoule", or when a hapa person is asked his ethnicity he
might say Filipino and hauole". Not to mention the fact that
weekly I am called an "<explicit> haoule" (I will allow you to
fill in your own word, they all are used) and the only history about us
told here is how we "stole the aina".
EDIT : Hades, I never consider anything said in a debate an attack on
me, nor are any of my arguments (save for a few in the occasinal
thread) an attack back.
------------- Real Men play Tuba
[IMG]http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1859/newsmall6xz.jpg">
PH33R TEH 1337 Dwarf!
http://www.tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/log_off_user.asp" rel="nofollow - DONT CLICK ME!!1
|
Posted By: Baroque-Urban
Date Posted: 02 September 2005 at 10:13pm
I think this is just sad that there is a black history month,hispanic
history month, and probably asian? dont know if there is. But if we
have a white history month then that would be "racist".....
-------------
Not sure what to buy...hmm
|
Posted By: djrock
Date Posted: 02 September 2005 at 10:52pm
Where is the white history month. I am not a racist, but didn't white people build America, blacks and hispanics just complain about it. Learn English!
-------------
It's been changed jackass.
|
Posted By: Darur
Date Posted: 02 September 2005 at 10:55pm
djrock wrote:
Where is the white history month. I am not a racist, but didn't white people build America, blacks and hispanics just complain about it. Learn English! |
The irony in that statement is unbleivable
------------- Real Men play Tuba
[IMG]http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1859/newsmall6xz.jpg">
PH33R TEH 1337 Dwarf!
http://www.tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/log_off_user.asp" rel="nofollow - DONT CLICK ME!!1
|
Posted By: djrock
Date Posted: 02 September 2005 at 10:55pm
WGP guy wrote:
Darur wrote:
whites came and were big bullies so we pretend they dont have a history. |
Yay! Finally people understand we need to give all government positions and rights solely to black people in reperation for the extreme oppression that the evil white people put on every single black person in this country!
| I don't hate blacks, they are just so liberal. White people did the hard work building this country, now black people think they have the right to run it. I am not a racist. I just gave the truth, sometimes the truth hurts, even when it comes to race.
-------------
It's been changed jackass.
|
Posted By: 98God
Date Posted: 02 September 2005 at 10:56pm
djrock wrote:
WGP guy wrote:
Darur wrote:
whites came and were big bullies so we pretend they dont have a history. |
Yay!
Finally people understand we need to give all government positions and
rights solely to black people in reperation for the extreme oppression
that the evil white people put on every single black person in this
country!
| I don't hate blacks, they
are just so liberal. White people did the hard work building this
country, now black people think they have the right to run it. I am not
a racist. I just gave the truth, sometimes the truth hurts, even when
it comes to race. |
Are you kidding me? Slavery ring a bell. African Americans had a huge role in the creation of America.
|
Posted By: Darur
Date Posted: 02 September 2005 at 10:57pm
98God wrote:
djrock wrote:
WGP guy wrote:
Darur wrote:
whites came and were big bullies so we pretend they dont have a history. |
Yay!
Finally people understand we need to give all government positions and
rights solely to black people in reperation for the extreme oppression
that the evil white people put on every single black person in this
country!
| I don't hate blacks, they
are just so liberal. White people did the hard work building this
country, now black people think they have the right to run it. I am not
a racist. I just gave the truth, sometimes the truth hurts, even when
it comes to race. |
Are you kidding me? Slavery ring a bell. African Americans had a huge role in the creation of America.
|
Bingo
------------- Real Men play Tuba
[IMG]http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1859/newsmall6xz.jpg">
PH33R TEH 1337 Dwarf!
http://www.tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/log_off_user.asp" rel="nofollow - DONT CLICK ME!!1
|
Posted By: Trogdor2
Date Posted: 02 September 2005 at 10:57pm
Darur wrote:
djrock wrote:
Where is the white history month. I am not a racist, but didn't white people build America, blacks and hispanics just complain about it. Learn English! |
The irony in that statement is unbleivable
|
That is absolutely incredible. I didn't think people still had opinions like djrock...
------------- Something unknown is doing we don't know what. That is what our knowledge amounts to. - Sir Arthur Eddington
|
Posted By: Jim Paint
Date Posted: 02 September 2005 at 11:07pm
The thing about black history month is we leanr that somebody found 200
uses for peanuts. We learn more trivial things than anything.
-------------
saepe fidelis
|
Posted By: Badsmitty
Date Posted: 02 September 2005 at 11:11pm
|
djrock wrote:
WGP guy wrote:
Darur wrote:
whites came and were big bullies so we pretend they dont have a history. |
Yay! Finally people understand we need to give all government positions and rights solely to black people in reperation for the extreme oppression that the evil white people put on every single black person in this country!
| I don't hate blacks, they are just so liberal. White people did the hard work building this country, now black people think they have the right to run it. I am not a racist. I just gave the truth, sometimes the truth hurts, even when it comes to race. |
Dang black liberals.
|
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 02 September 2005 at 11:13pm
When did Bush change his race?
-------------
|
Posted By: Darur
Date Posted: 02 September 2005 at 11:13pm
I've noticed something, the left-wingers never ever respond to my posts
about Hawaii and how things are backawards here unless its to call me a
hitler youth.
------------- Real Men play Tuba
[IMG]http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1859/newsmall6xz.jpg">
PH33R TEH 1337 Dwarf!
http://www.tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/log_off_user.asp" rel="nofollow - DONT CLICK ME!!1
|
Posted By: Cy Twombly
Date Posted: 02 September 2005 at 11:14pm
djrock wrote:
WGP guy wrote:
Darur wrote:
whites came and were big bullies so we pretend they dont have a history. |
Yay!
Finally people understand we need to give all government positions and
rights solely to black people in reperation for the extreme oppression
that the evil white people put on every single black person in this
country!
| I don't hate blacks, they
are just so liberal. White people did the hard work building this
country, now black people think they have the right to run it. I am not
a racist. I just gave the truth, sometimes the truth hurts, even when
it comes to race. |
Are you stating African Americans shouldn't be allowed the opportunity to run for government positions?
-------------
|
Posted By: Jim Paint
Date Posted: 02 September 2005 at 11:15pm
Darur wrote:
I've noticed something, the left-wingers never ever respond to my posts
about Hawaii and how things are backawards here unless its to call me a
hitler youth.
|
Cause you shouldn't be there in the first place.
Island stealer.
-------------
saepe fidelis
|
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 02 September 2005 at 11:15pm
Hawaii doesnt count. You have nice beaches and weather all year.
-------------
|
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 02 September 2005 at 11:25pm
|
Wow - sometimes I amaze myself.
I predicted every post in this thread.
Me > You
|
Posted By: Cy Twombly
Date Posted: 02 September 2005 at 11:29pm
-------------
|
Posted By: Jim Paint
Date Posted: 02 September 2005 at 11:30pm
ahahaahahahaaha
-------------
saepe fidelis
|
Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 12:24am
RABLE RABLE RABLE!!!
-------------
|
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 12:34am
Yeah... Hispanic herritage month. The maya, the Inca, we learned it. If a black person from the ghetto has a herritage of baggy jeans, sean jeans and corn rows, or rolls, or whatever they are called.(my sister used to wear them to job interviews...) Then around here, the hispanic culture is illegle imigration, day labor and having lots of kids they cant pay for.
But in all seriousness. I love authentic south american quisine. There is this dive in virginia, this little run down "pollo a la brasa" place. Its such a dive but the food is good.
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
|
Posted By: PlentifulBalls
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 1:27am
bluemunky42 wrote:
really? when?
-edit- i googled it and came up with no satisfactory results. |
Are you serious....
Al Sharpton....
-------------
sporx wrote:
well...ya i prolly will be a virgin till i'm at least 30.
|
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 1:52am
JJ ring a bell?
-------------
|
Posted By: agentwhale007.
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 9:14am
**This is a public health announcement, from your friendly neighborhood Whale**
The majority of this thread is composed of "Scared White Man Syndrome," also known as SWMS.
Note, the ones plagued are the ones proclaiming "LIEK HOW COME WHITES DON GET A MONTH?/?/??."
They are too unintelligent to comprehend the fact that most of the rest of your history book is composed of white history, and setting aside a month to learn extra about a culture or race you may not know so much about should be a joyous thing. They clearly do not want to learn and fix their Syndrome.
You should avoid people with SWMS, as the retardedness can be contagious.
-------------
Hey, nice marmot!
|
Posted By: Frank Zappa
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 9:19am
So, the eskimos are still allowed to hunt whales, aren't they?
I hope they hurry up and finish 'em off.
|
Posted By: bluemunky42
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 9:38am
agentwhale007. wrote:
**This is a public health announcement, from your friendly neighborhood Whale**
The majority of this thread is composed of "Scared White Man Syndrome," also known as SWMS.
Note, the ones plagued are the ones proclaiming "LIEK HOW COME WHITES DON GET A MONTH?/?/??."
They are too unintelligent to comprehend the fact that most of the rest of your history book is composed of white history, and setting aside a month to learn extra about a culture or race you may not know so much about should be a joyous thing. They clearly do not want to learn and fix their Syndrome.
You should avoid people with SWMS, as the retardedness can be contagious. |
oh yeah...wow. i feel like an idiot, and rightly so i should think.
-------------
http://www.freewebs.com/hazedinsanity - http://www.freewebs.com/hazedinsanity
|
Posted By: djrock
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 10:14am
98God wrote:
djrock wrote:
WGP guy wrote:
Darur wrote:
whites came and were big bullies so we pretend they dont have a history. |
Yay! Finally people understand we need to give all government positions and rights solely to black people in reperation for the extreme oppression that the evil white people put on every single black person in this country!
| I don't hate blacks, they are just so liberal. White people did the hard work building this country, now black people think they have the right to run it. I am not a racist. I just gave the truth, sometimes the truth hurts, even when it comes to race. |
Are you kidding me? Slavery ring a bell. African Americans had a huge role in the creation of America.
| That is true, but if it was up to them, that would never have happend.
-------------
It's been changed jackass.
|
Posted By: djrock
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 10:16am
Cy Twombly wrote:
djrock wrote:
WGP guy wrote:
Darur wrote:
whites came and were big bullies so we pretend they dont have a history. |
Yay! Finally people understand we need to give all government positions and rights solely to black people in reperation for the extreme oppression that the evil white people put on every single black person in this country!
| I don't hate blacks, they are just so liberal. White people did the hard work building this country, now black people think they have the right to run it. I am not a racist. I just gave the truth, sometimes the truth hurts, even when it comes to race. |
Are you stating African Americans shouldn't be allowed the opportunity to run for government positions?
| It isn't that they shouldn't be able to hold government positions, it's just that someone early said that all the white people in the government should be replaced with blacks.
-------------
It's been changed jackass.
|
Posted By: PlentifulBalls
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 10:20am
agentwhale007. wrote:
**This is a public health announcement, from your friendly neighborhood Whale**
The majority of this thread is composed of "Scared White Man Syndrome," also known as SWMS.
Note, the ones plagued are the ones proclaiming "LIEK HOW COME WHITES DON GET A MONTH?/?/??."
They are too unintelligent to comprehend the fact that most of the
rest of your history book is composed of white history, and setting
aside a month to learn extra about a culture or race you may not know
so much about should be a joyous thing. They clearly do not want to
learn and fix their Syndrome.
You should avoid people with SWMS, as the retardedness can be contagious. |
Well, since white people are superior to every other race on the planet, we should get like 2 or 3 months.
-------------
sporx wrote:
well...ya i prolly will be a virgin till i'm at least 30.
|
Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 10:52am
PlentifulBalls wrote:
agentwhale007. wrote:
**This is a public health announcement, from your friendly neighborhood Whale**
The majority of this thread is composed of "Scared White Man Syndrome," also known as SWMS.
Note, the ones plagued are the ones proclaiming "LIEK HOW COME WHITES DON GET A MONTH?/?/??."
They are too unintelligent to comprehend the fact that most of the
rest of your history book is composed of white history, and setting
aside a month to learn extra about a culture or race you may not know
so much about should be a joyous thing. They clearly do not want to
learn and fix their Syndrome.
You should avoid people with SWMS, as the retardedness can be contagious. |
Well, since white people are superior to every other race on the planet, we should get like 2 or 3 months.
|
Exactly.
-------------
|
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 11:46am
It's sad, but I think our public school's actual produce WPATVTO....White People Afraid To Voice Their Opinions!
The fact is, the history if the United states is overwhelmingly filled with white men.
White men wrote the Constitution. Every President we've had has been a white man. The overwhelming majority of politicians and political respresentitives in America are you gussed it, white.
We have tons of history of whites doing "big things" as far as exploring and discovering.
Basically, as far as the history of America goes, the white man has been a focal point all along.
Sure, there are many other races that have done big things in American history, but the FACT remains that America, the United States, has a history that is filled with important white people, and not nearly as many important people from other racial backrounds.
So, why is it so wrong for them to have 10 months out of the year? It seems proportional to the amount of success the white race has had in our history, so what's the big deal?
We have our month for the hispanics, our month for blacks, and the rest of the year is rightfully devoted to the almighty white man.
|
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 12:08pm
...
-------------
|
Posted By: Frank Zappa
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 12:11pm
|
Or we could learn about history in history class, and if someones worth
mentioning, regardless of race or month, they should be mentioned.
|
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 12:31pm
|
^That makes too much sense....we need someone to feel like the victim!
|
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 12:36pm
Hades wrote:
... | Leavin' 'em speechless since my mouthpiece was functional....nice.
|
Posted By: WGP guy
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 12:38pm
djrock wrote:
Cy Twombly wrote:
djrock wrote:
WGP guy wrote:
Darur wrote:
whites came and were big bullies so we pretend they dont
have a history. |
Yay!
Finally people understand we need to give all government positions and
rights solely to black people in reperation for the extreme oppression
that the evil white people put on every single black person in this
country!
| I don't hate blacks, they
are just so liberal. White people did the hard work building this
country, now black people think they have the right to run it. I am not
a racist. I just gave the truth, sometimes the truth hurts, even when
it comes to race. |
Are you stating African Americans shouldn't be allowed the opportunity to run for government positions?
|
It isn't that they shouldn't be able to hold government positions, it's
just that someone early said that all the white people in the
government should be replaced with blacks. |
You couldn't sense the sarcasm in my post?
|
Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 12:39pm
bluemunky42 wrote:
it seems there is a month for every race except white people. does anyone else find something wrong with that? we have heritage, too. | I, too, find that dumb.
It's just reverse rasim, they all yell and scream equality, yet when it comes down to it, they could give a rats ass about us.
All I say is yay to you for being who you are...
-------------
|
Posted By: Frank Zappa
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 12:40pm
|
WGP, your post was wrong in the first place, He meant the native Islanders of Hawaii, not blacks.
|
Posted By: Predatorr
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 12:48pm
|
Here's my opinion. First there were native americans, we took their land in the beginning. Of course this is the arrival of the white man. Then came the arrival of the black man through slavery. Then came the hispanic american from his country because of political oppression and the like. So you came to our country. You don't deserve a month because of what happened to you back in your country or because of the acccomplishments your people have made. You should be rewarded for an accomplishment regardless of your race. I don't see the need to learn more about the hispanic or african american culture in any class but history. I dont see the need to walk around all february (no joke) with black kids in the hall saying this is my month, respect me... And truth be told it really urks me. You have black entertainment television. You have telemundo and galavision. You live in america, you speak english, you adapt to our culture.
In my dad's workplace there are several muslisms who want a prayer room because they must pray five times a day. This prayer room has to consist of several expensive shrines and must face toward mecca. Now when they talked about building this to make the middle eastern workers more comfortable, my uncle (who also works there) said, " okay i want a room with several top of the line lay-zboy chairs, a big screen TV and a restaurant style drink despenser. Why? Because it represents american culture." And he proceeded to walk out. Its complete BS to adapt to another culture in ours. You come to america you adapt to us. You speak english and you get a job. I dont see the need to give a group of peoples a month out of the year to make them feel good.
|
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 12:56pm
The US doesnt have a culture of its own. US culture is a melting pot of all cultures. We have no one nationality. In france, there are french people, in korea, there are koreans. In the US, we have koreans, chinese, japanese, french poeple, irish people, scotish people, the list goes on and on. We have no one culutre of our own, unless you say that our culture is the co-mingling of all the cultures here in the US.
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
|
Posted By: Predatorr
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 1:00pm
|
I was being very blunt, but i think having us adapt to another culture is just BS. You adapt to what you see here. Im not saying go drink be fat lazy and catch every sunday football game, im saying you adapt to a lifestyle here.
|
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 1:09pm
But thats the thing. The US culture is like the AIDS virus, its ever changing, fluid and always changing, modifying istelf.
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
|
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 1:10pm
|
Linus wrote:
It's just reverse rasim |
What is reverse racism?
|
Posted By: Predatorr
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 1:11pm
|
All im saying is that we dont need to adapt to other people, they adapt to us and melt in.
|
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 1:13pm
Isnt that being a bit, self centered?
-------------
|
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 1:14pm
Clark Kent wrote:
Linus wrote:
It's just reverse rasim |
What is reverse racism? |
Its just a term, dont read into the wording. When you think of racism, normaly its white on black or what have you. Then people figure, well if its black on white, its reversed.. only its stupid because its still rasism. Its one of those things, when you hear it, you just think to yourself. "Hm... uh huh, ok then."
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
|
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 1:16pm
Clark Kent wrote:
Linus wrote:
It's just reverse rasim | What is reverse racism? |
Well since racism can only happen to minorities when something that is deemed to be racist against non-minorities, it is reverse racism because the majority gets a new word for it.
Sarcasm!11!!
Since people have been having trouble reading it lately...
-------------
|
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 1:17pm
|
Zesty wrote:
The fact is, the history if the United states is overwhelmingly filled with white men.
|
And I don't necessarily disagree with that, or with the idea that most of history class will be about white men.
But there is a long way from "most" to "all".
There have been many worthy contributions by black and hispanic men and women that go untold, and that ain't right. If it takes a dedicated month to fix that, then so be it.
Besides, what's the harm?
|
Posted By: Predatorr
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 1:18pm
|
Hades wrote:
Isnt that being a bit, self centered? |
nope, im just saying if i traveled to spain i'd adapt to that culture, speak the language. When in rome...
I dont think it should be any different when somebody of a different culture actually makes a residence in america.
|
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 1:21pm
Predatorr wrote:
Here's my opinion. First there were native americans, we took their land in the beginning. Of course this is the arrival of the white man. Then came the arrival of the black man through slavery. Then came the hispanic american from his country because of political oppression and the like. |
Err...
"Columbus" ring a bell? "Santa Ana"?
Columbus, of course, was first, with his boatload of Spaniards and Portugese. And the entire Southwest was settled by Spaniards as well. And then there is Texan history...
Maybe you need to pay more attention during Hispanic History Month... :)
|
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 1:22pm
Predatorr wrote:
Here's my opinion. First there were native americans, we took their land in the beginning. Of course this is the arrival of the white man. Then came the arrival of the black man through slavery. Then came the hispanic american from his country because of political oppression and the like. So you came to our country. You don't deserve a month because of what happened to you back in your country or because of the acccomplishments your people have made. You should be rewarded for an accomplishment regardless of your race. I don't see the need to learn more about the hispanic or african american culture in any class but history. I dont see the need to walk around all february (no joke) with black kids in the hall saying this is my month, respect me... And truth be told it really urks me. You have black entertainment television. You have telemundo and galavision. You live in america, you speak english, you adapt to our culture.
In my dad's workplace there are several muslisms who want a prayer room because they must pray five times a day. This prayer room has to consist of several expensive shrines and must face toward mecca. Now when they talked about building this to make the middle eastern workers more comfortable, my uncle (who also works there) said, " okay i want a room with several top of the line lay-zboy chairs, a big screen TV and a restaurant style drink despenser. Why? Because it represents american culture." And he proceeded to walk out. Its complete BS to adapt to another culture in ours. You come to america you adapt to us. You speak english and you get a job. I dont see the need to give a group of peoples a month out of the year to make them feel good.
| While i kinda feel you about BET , you are missing the point on your other analogy.
The Muslims don't just want the shrine room to "feel comfortable", they want it to exercise their religious beliefs.
if your uncle truly believed in some religion that required him to have a La-Z-Boy and drink a case of beer a day, i would accept his right to have his recliner and drink his brew.
You gotta respects other's religious rights, even if you don't agree with the actual religion.
|
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 1:26pm
Predatorr wrote:
You live in america, you speak english, you adapt to our culture.
|
This keeps coming up, but this has never been true. You just said how the Native Americans were here first, then the white folk came.
Do you speak Navajo?
And, of course, white immigrants did everything but adapt. Instead, they gathered in enclaves. That's why you can walk down the streets in NYC and hear Italian, Polish, Norwegian, and other "white" languages spoken, by people whose GRANDPARENTS came here.
The "Pennsylvania Dutch" aren't called that because they adapted to mainstream culture. There are parts of Minnesota where Swedish is spoken, 100+ years after anybody came from Sweden.
If anything, American history is a story about NOT adapting, but establishing your own identity.
|
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 1:26pm
My favorite arguement ever, Yeah!
Go BET.
Since this thread has gone there. I see tons of Christian TV networks and Telethons [or whatever they are actually called]. It isnt fair that there inst one for Wiccans and Devil Worshippers!!! That is Theologically Discrimative!!!
-------------
|
Posted By: Predatorr
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 1:26pm
Zesty wrote:
Predatorr wrote:
Here's my opinion. First there were native americans, we took their land in the beginning. Of course this is the arrival of the white man. Then came the arrival of the black man through slavery. Then came the hispanic american from his country because of political oppression and the like. So you came to our country. You don't deserve a month because of what happened to you back in your country or because of the acccomplishments your people have made. You should be rewarded for an accomplishment regardless of your race. I don't see the need to learn more about the hispanic or african american culture in any class but history. I dont see the need to walk around all february (no joke) with black kids in the hall saying this is my month, respect me... And truth be told it really urks me. You have black entertainment television. You have telemundo and galavision. You live in america, you speak english, you adapt to our culture.
In my dad's workplace there are several muslisms who want a prayer room because they must pray five times a day. This prayer room has to consist of several expensive shrines and must face toward mecca. Now when they talked about building this to make the middle eastern workers more comfortable, my uncle (who also works there) said, " okay i want a room with several top of the line lay-zboy chairs, a big screen TV and a restaurant style drink despenser. Why? Because it represents american culture." And he proceeded to walk out. Its complete BS to adapt to another culture in ours. You come to america you adapt to us. You speak english and you get a job. I dont see the need to give a group of peoples a month out of the year to make them feel good.
| While i kinda feel you about BET , you are missing the point on your other analogy.
The Muslims don't just want the shrine room to "feel comfortable", they want it to exercise their religious beliefs.
if your uncle truly believed in some religion that required him to have a La-Z-Boy and drink a case of beer a day, i would accept his right to have his recliner and drink his brew.
You gotta respects other's religious rights, even if you don't agree with the actual religion.
|
oh no i completely respect the religious rights and stuff, but these people were trying to get like a $40,000 dollar room when all they really needed was a bedroom sized room that faced mecca and some nice prayer mats. I accept their need to pray but i didnt like how they asked for a shrine that was going to be expensive and unnessesary.
And clark, i guess i will have to pay attention this month.
|
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 1:27pm
Yup, there are parts of new hampshire, its all french.. newspapers, TV, radio, bill boards, I LOVE IT.
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
|
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 1:30pm
Clark Kent wrote:
Zesty wrote:
The fact is, the history if the United states is overwhelmingly filled with white men. |
And I don't necessarily disagree with that, or with the idea that most of history class will be about white men.
But there is a long way from "most" to "all".
There have been many worthy contributions by black and hispanic men and women that go untold, and that ain't right. If it takes a dedicated month to fix that, then so be it.
Besides, what's the harm? |
Nah, if you read my post you will see that we seem to be on the same page....I don't see anything wrong with devoting a month to blacks and another to hispanics, because like I said, it seems proportionate to the amount of success/accomplishment they have had in American history in comparison to the white race.
The white man has played an overwhelming part in our country's developement, so they get 10 months out the year, while blacks and hispanics get one each.
But what about all the other races that have contributed to American history? Isn't it self-centered and downright selfish for the hispanics and blacks to want their month, but not fight for the same rights for Asians and all other races that have played significant roles in our country's history?
If blacks and hispanics can name their months after their race, can we call the other 10 months out of the year "White History Months"?
------------- "People who see the future earlier than others are always feared and misunderstood." - Jose Canseco
|
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 1:32pm
Predatorr, I see what you mean then, i thought you were just upset that they wanted their shrine, not at the cost.
But yes, America is a melting pot, we have no core culture or race, everybody is acepted just the way they are.
|
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 1:32pm
|
or should be accepted anyway
|
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 1:34pm
on the BET issue, I hate those hypocrits because when a white guy makes it big(Eminem, Paul Wall) they have no problem porfitting from the white man's talent!
|
Posted By: Predatorr
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 1:37pm
|
seriously dude, nah i just object to making a 40,000 dollar shrine. BET is a load of crap though and is one of the main reasons i hate rap. But i heart kanye west.
|
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 2:08pm
^nah, I def feel you on that, i just thought you were making light of their exercising their religion.
Your issue is with the price and extravagance, and i agree.
I dislike almost all these studio rappers, though I would barely call kanye west a rapper
|
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 2:11pm
What is it that plenteh says...
GAMECUBE NINTENDO!
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
|
Posted By: Darur
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 3:34pm
agentwhale007. wrote:
**This is a public health announcement, from your friendly neighborhood Whale**
The majority of this thread is composed of "Scared White Man Syndrome," also known as SWMS.
Note, the ones plagued are the ones proclaiming "LIEK HOW COME WHITES DON GET A MONTH?/?/??."
They are too unintelligent to comprehend the fact that most of the
rest of your history book is composed of white history, and setting
aside a month to learn extra about a culture or race you may not know
so much about should be a joyous thing. They clearly do not want to
learn and fix their Syndrome.
You should avoid people with SWMS, as the retardedness can be contagious. |
Read my post
------------- Real Men play Tuba
[IMG]http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1859/newsmall6xz.jpg">
PH33R TEH 1337 Dwarf!
http://www.tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/log_off_user.asp" rel="nofollow - DONT CLICK ME!!1
|
Posted By: djrock
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 3:40pm
Clark Kent wrote:
Predatorr wrote:
You live in america, you speak english, you adapt to our culture.
|
This keeps coming up, but this has never been true. You just said how the Native Americans were here first, then the white folk came.
Do you speak Navajo?
And, of course, white immigrants did everything but adapt. Instead, they gathered in enclaves. That's why you can walk down the streets in NYC and hear Italian, Polish, Norwegian, and other "white" languages spoken, by people whose GRANDPARENTS came here.
The "Pennsylvania Dutch" aren't called that because they adapted to mainstream culture. There are parts of Minnesota where Swedish is spoken, 100+ years after anybody came from Sweden.
If anything, American history is a story about NOT adapting, but establishing your own identity. | Clark Kent made a great point. Stop with languages from like 1830's. Now we are in present day America, Americans speak English. If you migrate to America you learn the language, or get out.
-------------
It's been changed jackass.
|
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 4:17pm
|
^haha, you totally don't get it
|
Posted By: Ejp414
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 4:27pm
How hypocritical.
"I hate when minorities complain about silly, trite issues. . . . And why don't we get our own month?"
------------- __________________
__________________
|
Posted By: Predatorr
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 4:28pm
|
seriously dude it was about knowing what happened
|
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 5:54pm
|
djrock wrote:
Clark Kent made a great point. Stop with languages from like 1830's. Now we are in present day America, Americans speak English. If you migrate to America you learn the language, or get out. |
Wow - way to completely 100% miss my point. Very impressive.
|
Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 6:08pm
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 7:44pm
|
Linus -
No, I didn't ask "to see if you knew". I asked a sarcastic rhetorical question to point out that the statement and idea of "reverse racism" is idiotic, and rests on a deep bedrock of ethnic opinion and belief, as you have elegantly proven in your reply.
That anybody actually uses this phrase frightens me a bit, frankly, given the astounding level of self-centrism required to even frame the thought.
|
Posted By: Frank Zappa
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 8:38pm
So, I still haven't been replied to when I say black history month interrupts the history curriculum.
How about we just mention who is worth mentioning in history.
I don't care if someone made 200 uses for peanuts.
Black or white.
|
Posted By: vonfeldt7
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 8:56pm
|
WGP guy wrote:
Darur wrote:
whites came and were big bullies so we pretend they dont have a history. |
Yay! Finally people understand we need to give all government positions and rights solely to black people in reperation for the extreme oppression that the evil white people put on every single black person in this country!
|
dude, if we did that then the whole U.S. would be like new orleans right now (looting, shooting at people trying to help, ect.) there already is enought of this crap all over, with....black people in reperation, it would be even worse, also I am NOT i repeat, NOT racist, maybe im wrong...i guess it wouldnt be that bad if they were "good" black people but if they're like the people in new orleans...we're all screwed
------------- http://www.freewebs.com/paintball_things - novice paintball help (If you own a tippy and your new to paintball, this site may help)
Jesus is my friend
DO NOT say"sniper"here!
|
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 8:58pm
The people in New Orleans are doing what they are doing because they are poor. Not because they are black.
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
|
Posted By: Frank Zappa
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 9:04pm
agentwhale007. wrote:
**This is a public health announcement, from your friendly neighborhood Whale**
The majority of this thread is composed of "Scared White Man Syndrome," also known as SWMS.
Note, the ones plagued are the ones proclaiming "LIEK HOW COME WHITES DON GET A MONTH?/?/??."
They are too unintelligent to comprehend the fact that most of the
rest of your history book is composed of white history, and setting
aside a month to learn extra about a culture or race you may not know
so much about should be a joyous thing. They clearly do not want to
learn and fix their Syndrome.
You should avoid people with SWMS, as the retardedness can be contagious. |
I'm still sonfused on why we can't just learn history as it happened,
regardless of race. Sure we can learn about hispanics in mexico,
but why not whites in South Dakota?
If somethings worth learning, they should teach it in school. Race should not affect it at all.
And please respond intelligently instead of OMGz0rz WTF RAcist WHITE
chrISTi@n CONMs3RVATIVE1!!11!!Leik T3H ROFLWAFFELS!!1!1!1111
|
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 9:28pm
|
vonfeldt7 wrote:
WGP guy wrote:
Yay! Finally people understand we need to give all government positions and rights solely to black people in reperation for the extreme oppression that the evil white people put on every single black person in this country!
|
dude, if we did that then the whole U.S. would be like new orleans right now (looting, shooting at people trying to help, ect.) there already is enought of this crap all over, with....black people in reperation, it would be even worse, also I am NOT i repeat, NOT racist, maybe im wrong...i guess it wouldnt be that bad if they were "good" black people but if they're like the people in new orleans...we're all screwed |
Translation: "Ignore the fact that I am spewing racist crap as fast as I can type - I'm not a racist, really I'm not."
Dude - seriously. Think about what you are saying, about what you are thinking. If that isn't racist, what is?
|
Posted By: Darur
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 9:31pm
Clark Kent
Member

Luscious Lesbian
Joined: 02 July 2004
Location: United States
Online Status: Online
Posts: 4400
Coincidently that show will be on soon over here . . .
------------- Real Men play Tuba
[IMG]http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1859/newsmall6xz.jpg">
PH33R TEH 1337 Dwarf!
http://www.tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/log_off_user.asp" rel="nofollow - DONT CLICK ME!!1
|
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 9:35pm
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 9:47pm
Clark Kent wrote:
vonfeldt7 wrote:
WGP guy wrote:
Yay! Finally people understand we need to give all government positions and rights solely to black people in reperation for the extreme oppression that the evil white people put on every single black person in this country! |
dude, if we did that then the whole U.S. would be like new orleans right now (looting, shooting at people trying to help, ect.) there already is enought of this crap all over, with....black people in reperation, it would be even worse, also I am NOT i repeat, NOT racist, maybe im wrong...i guess it wouldnt be that bad if they were "good" black people but if they're like the people in new orleans...we're all screwed |
Translation: "Ignore the fact that I am spewing racist crap as fast as I can type - I'm not a racist, really I'm not."
Dude - seriously. Think about what you are saying, about what you are thinking. If that isn't racist, what is? | OMG, thank you sir!
seriously, the funniest thing going on this forum nowadays is vonfeldt's racist comments and the disclaimers that ensue!
"Man, I'm no racist, but black people are really scummy!"
|
Posted By: oreomann33
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 11:07pm
^ Hah, http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=racist - http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=racist
-------------
|
Posted By: TruePaintballer
Date Posted: 04 September 2005 at 12:22am
YaY hispanics
------------- http://www.freewebs.com/outlawspaintball/index.htm - Outlaws
*Sponsors*
http://www.abrika.ca - Abrika
|
Posted By: Bolt3
Date Posted: 04 September 2005 at 2:17am
Too bad that the lootings, shootings, and rapings in New Orleans are not all that's going on.
In reality, the reason why all this in Louisiana is happening is
because, they are black. That's it. Because their black. And worse,
they are poor, black, scum. That's how the government views them, so
why should they help them.
Thank god for all the news channels covering this. They made this
horrific act of god known to the world and brought attention upon New
Orleans which forced Bush to act, fast. ( Actually, a few thousand dead
bodies fast )
Which is why, Republicans, just suck.
------------- <Removed sig for violation of Clause 4 of the New Sig Rules>
|
Posted By: vonfeldt7
Date Posted: 04 September 2005 at 10:02am
Zesty wrote:
Clark Kent wrote:
vonfeldt7 wrote:
WGP guy wrote:
Yay! Finally people understand we need to give all government positions and rights solely to black people in reperation for the extreme oppression that the evil white people put on every single black person in this country! |
dude, if we did that then the whole U.S. would be like new orleans right now (looting, shooting at people trying to help, ect.) there already is enought of this crap all over, with....black people in reperation, it would be even worse, also I am NOT i repeat, NOT racist, maybe im wrong...i guess it wouldnt be that bad if they were "good" black people but if they're like the people in new orleans...we're all screwed |
Translation: "Ignore the fact that I am spewing racist crap as fast as I can type - I'm not a racist, really I'm not."
Dude - seriously. Think about what you are saying, about what you are thinking. If that isn't racist, what is?
| OMG, thank you sir!
seriously, the funniest thing going on this forum nowadays is vonfeldt's racist comments and the disclaimers that ensue!
"Man, I'm no racist, but black people are really scummy!" |
dude im not racist, im not saying black people are scummy, i even said in my post (at least i think i did, i know i did in one of my posts about this..) that its also because they're poor, not just because they're black.
------------- http://www.freewebs.com/paintball_things - novice paintball help (If you own a tippy and your new to paintball, this site may help)
Jesus is my friend
DO NOT say"sniper"here!
|
Posted By: vonfeldt7
Date Posted: 04 September 2005 at 10:07am
|
oreomann33 wrote:
^ Hah, http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=racist - http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=racist |
think what you will, but im not racist, the only reason you see black people stealing ewverything and almost no white people is because new orleans is alot black because of slavery (which is wrong by the way) and thats just where they stayed.
------------- http://www.freewebs.com/paintball_things - novice paintball help (If you own a tippy and your new to paintball, this site may help)
Jesus is my friend
DO NOT say"sniper"here!
|
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 04 September 2005 at 10:56am
We're just giving you a hard time, dude.
I honestly wouldn't even care if you were racist, I'm white! LOL
|
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 04 September 2005 at 11:31am
Yeah. Im what you call "Whitebread" Both me and Darur are.
One or both of the smitties is racist.
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
|
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 04 September 2005 at 11:33am
^Dude, please
delete that before one of the smitties sees it and ownes you
|
Posted By: bluemunky42
Date Posted: 04 September 2005 at 1:41pm
jesus... "...i am NOT racist i repeat NOT at all, but black people are the only ones shooting at helpers and looting..."
come on, people, how is that not racist?
-------------
http://www.freewebs.com/hazedinsanity - http://www.freewebs.com/hazedinsanity
|
|