Apex Barrel (not a joke?)
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Topic: Apex Barrel (not a joke?)
Posted By: Panda Man
Subject: Apex Barrel (not a joke?)
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 5:24pm
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http://media.putfile.com/apexweb - http://media.putfile.com/apexweb that is wierd.... very wierd. ------------- 
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Posted By: Monk
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 5:28pm
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Been posted. Still pretty interesting. People are all, "Oh no, they can get me behind the tree!!!" Comeon, just step to the side and shoot the guy, hundred bucks says the guy points it straight at you and misses cause its ganna curve. Unless you practice changing the direction on it religiosly, you will get pwned. |
Posted By: Darur
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 5:47pm
Well, if you play with a guy covering you you can chase the guy behind the tree out with the apex and have your pal tag him. I can see it being a useful tool for a team but if everyone had them it would probably be risky. Maybe 1 or 2 guys ------------- Real Men play Tuba [IMG]http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1859/newsmall6xz.jpg"> PH33R TEH 1337 Dwarf! http://www.tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/log_off_user.asp" rel="nofollow - DONT CLICK ME!!1 |
Monk wrote:Posted By: pbdude985
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 6:12pm
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yea already been posted , still petty cool idea. ------------- 
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Posted By: Mehs
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 7:45pm
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It seems more like a novelty barrel, like that firestorm crank thing. ------------- [IMG]http://i27.tinypic.com/1538fbc.jpg"> Squeeze Box ☣ |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 8:13pm
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^I don't see how it's anymore a novelty than the Flatline.
It actually takes the Flatline and owns it. Does everything the Flatline can do and more. I wouldn't buy one, but I saw that video and it seems pretty accurate in standard mode and the balls were also pretty accurate when he started curving them. Though it shot in Flatline mode like the real Flatline, not very acurately! LOL |
Posted By: RamboBlue
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 9:17pm
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i read about that in pb2x i dont no if i like it ------------- TIPPMANN KICKS ASS Champions know pain, endure pain, and never complain 98% of paintballers act gangsta', if you are of the 2% that are normal, put this this in your sig. |
Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 9:36pm
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I may actually buy one to mess around with...
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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 9:43pm
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It costs just barely more than a Flatline, and it also looks somewhat like a suppressor, and does the Flatline thing, while also doing the standard barrel thing, while also doing the curving thing!
I think also heard something about it being pretty easy to clean, though don't quote me on that. Looks quality to me, although I will say from the looks of it BT has ripped off the JCS stocks! Oh well, if you're gonna be a biter it's best to copy the best. |
Posted By: BrushHog
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 10:05pm
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I have used it and played against it. I personally like it better then the flatline. Like anything else it has pros and cons. But it is easy/quick to change settings and also easy to clean. But I have enough barrels, no need to drop the $$$$ ------------- A man who has made no enemies is not truely a man at all. |
Posted By: DarkSideEchoes
Date Posted: 04 September 2005 at 12:35am
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Wow. I never thought it would be that short. ( the barrel that is). That is pretty nice. ------------- 
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Posted By: bluemunky42
Date Posted: 04 September 2005 at 9:54am
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it is pretty neat, i think, but i wanted to see the divebomb effect. ------------- 
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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 04 September 2005 at 10:58am
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yeah, the downward arc-effect would actually be the one that those speedballers would be all over!
I was honestly impressed with the amount of curve it had and how accurate it shot in sideways mode. definitely would be a nightmare if used right on the speedball field. |
Posted By: Smitty
Date Posted: 04 September 2005 at 5:28pm
| Hmmm....... I would like to get my hands on one of those. They seem like they may be worth the money. |
Posted By: ninety8freak
Date Posted: 04 September 2005 at 7:02pm
| better than i expected....i might get one... |
Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 06 September 2005 at 1:15am
Yea, my Impulse may get to see one, I'm not a *HUGE* speedball fan
anymore so I could careless whats illegal in PSP etc... That
thing is shweet... HEHE... a 15+bps Flatline. 
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Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 06 September 2005 at 1:43am
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man, i hope those don't go over. It seems to me they're taking alot of the skill out of the game. I mean really, you can be lazy and just use that, or you can move your ass and make a run or just bunker them. If everyone had one of those, There would be no point to having bunkers. If this product goes through, it will also make snap-shooting nearly impossible..... it won't matter if you can or not, with those, someone can shoot you if you snap or not...... The game will turn into nothing more than a painfull version of flashlight tag...... ------------- X |
Posted By: djrock
Date Posted: 06 September 2005 at 11:15am
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It's been changed jackass. |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 06 September 2005 at 11:19am
| ^Dude, that's annoying! |
Posted By: Xspyderman
Date Posted: 06 September 2005 at 11:29am
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You can pull this off fairly effectively with the Flatline by tipping the marker left or right... the APEX does sound interesting though. ------------- Xs. A5, GTA; Flatline, Double Trigger, R/T, Tapco Stock, 32° Remote, Attitude Forum: meeting place or medium for discussion of matters of public interest. NOT INTERESTED? DON'T POST! |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 06 September 2005 at 12:15pm
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^Actually, not really.
With the Flatline, to get the downward arc, you would have to hold your gun completely upside down, which is basically impossible during a game. |
Posted By: Bruce A. Frank
Date Posted: 06 September 2005 at 1:30pm
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On E-Bay right now it is selling for a "Buy it Now" price of $119, which is exactly the same price of a new Flatline on E-Bay. |
Posted By: RedLion56
Date Posted: 06 September 2005 at 1:40pm
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when i had my flatline it didn't arc upwards alot (just a little bit) and not enough to get an arc,bend around a corner,downward arc.so it probably wouldn't happen. ------------- A5 12"Bigshot Pure energy 20ozCo2x2/AntiSyphon 32 degrees Black X_chamber Pen spring mod Polished Internals |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 06 September 2005 at 7:11pm
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yep, so it doesn't even cost more and does a whole lot more
I would like to see exactly how it works, and if it really is easy to clean. |
Posted By: <Stealthy>
Date Posted: 06 September 2005 at 11:21pm
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in the video though when he is using the flatline affect the balls are curving a lot it seems to me. And i know for a fact that you can get a flatline shooting a lot more acuurate then that. ------------- -Tippman 98c -Lapco Bigshot 14" -Flatline -Palmer Stablizer (male) -Dead On dropforward -Hyperstar bolt -Red dot sight |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 07 September 2005 at 11:43am
| I don't think the Flatline would be any more accurate given the same conditions...the guy said he was shooting a mix of paints. |
Posted By: Xspyderman
Date Posted: 07 September 2005 at 12:53pm
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... but I will be checking out the APEX... I doubt I'll bother buying one unless it is obviously much better. The straight downward shot one I would use that often... and I can't remember a time I needed to arc up. ------------- Xs. A5, GTA; Flatline, Double Trigger, R/T, Tapco Stock, 32° Remote, Attitude Forum: meeting place or medium for discussion of matters of public interest. NOT INTERESTED? DON'T POST! |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 07 September 2005 at 9:07pm
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I know what you mean, but it isn't as extreme as the apex.
I actually didn't even see them shoot it with the downward arc in the video, but I just assumed it was capable. I would agree that the downward arc would be very useful. |
Posted By: impulse!
Date Posted: 07 September 2005 at 9:27pm
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I hate how people say every damn thing they have on their marker. ------------- 
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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 07 September 2005 at 10:46pm
In the time it would take to adjust that thing, id rather just flank them. |
Posted By: Tolgak
Date Posted: 08 September 2005 at 9:30am
He was also shooting from his hip. That made the gun wave around a lot and killed his accuracy. You can set the amount of backspin on the thing. It looked like he put it all the way which is why the paint was curving up at the end. I heard about some sort of scale to determine backspin, 1-8. 1 is none and 8 is "Super Flatline" ------------- 
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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 08 September 2005 at 10:08am
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^That's very interesting! The more I hear about it, the more I would like to get my hands on one! I would agree that it seemed to be in super flatline mode, tons of backspin made it rise at the end.
I also saw that Flatlines were $99 a CountyPaintball, so I just assumed the price had dropped. Also, I haven't seen enough about it to know for sure, and I only saw the video once about a week ago, but it seems like it is very easy and fast to change/rotate the barrel modes. Seems like it could easily be done while someone is behind a bunker for a half second or so....rotate your barrel while his head is down, next thing he knows he's getting balls sideways and downwards on his head. I won't buy one even if they become a big hit, just because it's still kinda a ot of money and I'm all hooked on my one-piece barrels, but it is still a smart idea, I would just like to see more of the design. |
Posted By: Xspyderman
Date Posted: 08 September 2005 at 10:33am
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BT Apex is ugly... A5 Flatline looks much better... ------------- Xs. A5, GTA; Flatline, Double Trigger, R/T, Tapco Stock, 32° Remote, Attitude Forum: meeting place or medium for discussion of matters of public interest. NOT INTERESTED? DON'T POST! |
Posted By: Xspyderman
Date Posted: 08 September 2005 at 10:35am
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You mean like this: ------------- Xs. A5, GTA; Flatline, Double Trigger, R/T, Tapco Stock, 32° Remote, Attitude Forum: meeting place or medium for discussion of matters of public interest. NOT INTERESTED? DON'T POST! |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 08 September 2005 at 11:32am
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Looks are personal preference!
And my preference is actually for the BT Apex! The Flatline looks a bit gaudy...it's too big of a suppressor, and the barrel's finish itself isn't up to par with a $100 barrel, IME. Especialy when you figure in what they both can do, the price, and the weight....I'm willing to bet the A5 Flatline weighs significantly more than the Apex. Basically, the Apex can do a few things the Flatline can't, while costing the same price. |
Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 08 September 2005 at 8:16pm
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 09 September 2005 at 4:02am
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I've seen one and got to handle it. I haven't played with it and
don't plan to right now, but I know someone who did and will see if I
can get their impression. The interior of the barrel is
well-polished and looks like it would clean up easily. The spin
inducer at the end is made of plastic and works by means of a sliding
lever. There were no graduated markings on the one I saw to aid
in adjusting for specific settings. (This includes both
adjustments for amount of spin and for angle of spin.) When the
lever is adjusted it moves a piece of plastic with a rubber pad on it
so that it protrudes into the path of the ball. It looks like it
would be prone to paint breakage at the most extreme spin setting, but
that is just my opinion based on looks. There is enough room in
and around the spin-tab thingy that it would be difficult to clean on
the field with a squeegee, although it should rinse off fairly easily
if cleaned between games. If I can get some feedback from someone
who used it, or if I try it myself, I will post more information.
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Posted By: Pro_Carbine
Date Posted: 09 September 2005 at 3:42pm
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It does curve around the tree but its not gonne hit any one ------------- 98c R/T Eggy w/ Z-Board Hpa Tank Double Trigger Drop Foward 12" Smart Parts Progresive Team Morelli Company "autococker with 40 inch hammerhead barrel mounted onto a flatline"-Lester98c LOL |
Posted By: Nutteralex
Date Posted: 09 September 2005 at 11:44pm
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[/QUOTE]Flatlines are $99 now. In the time it would take to adjust that thing, id rather just flank them. [/QUOTE] But that's to active.  I think paintballing is just trying to get lazier.------------- Please for the love of god don't get a flatline. |
Posted By: Darur
Date Posted: 10 September 2005 at 2:22am
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Posted By: CIA356
Date Posted: 10 September 2005 at 4:15am
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Everyone is talking about how "oh I can shoot around bunker's and hit people, the flatline can't do that" well it can and it does it alot more efficiently. You're in the center of the field behind a big pillar bunker and there is an opposing player on your right, You set your apex to curve right and you begin to unload at him. But then before you know it another player comes out of the snake on the left you try to take him out but all your balls are still curving right. You tuck behind your bunker to change the curve setting and before you know it both players have moved up and now your the one pinned down. With a flatline you could have just tilted your gun from right to left or with any other barrel just turn and shoot. It definately is a great concept but I think on a speedball course you just wouldn't have enough time to fiddle with settings and all that. In the woods it would be nice but in a speedball environment it would create more problems than it would solve. Just my $0.02 ------------- 
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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 10 September 2005 at 11:06am
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^So, you can't just tilt the Apex?
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Posted By: ninety8freak
Date Posted: 10 September 2005 at 11:25am
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Posted By: CIA356
Date Posted: 10 September 2005 at 12:53pm
Not if you have it set to left or right well you could but you would have to turn your gun pretty much upside down. -------------
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 10 September 2005 at 2:02pm
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I think you missed Zesty's point... The Apex does everything the Flatline does and more. |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 10 September 2005 at 3:05pm
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^Thank you kind sir!
That's what I mean, if you wanted to, with the Apex, you could have it set for regular Flatline mode, and do what you are saying with the tilting/canting of the gun.....the Apex can do exactly the same thing the Flatline can do! But,with the Apex, you also have the option to get those angles without having to tilt the gun, plus I assume you can get that downward arc-effect, which would be the most useful/beneficial characteristic and something you would have to turn the Flatline upside down to do! And all that appears to be in a pretty short and lightweight package, which IMHO doesn't look too shabby AT ALL. ------------- "People who see the future earlier than others are always feared and misunderstood." - Jose Canseco |
Posted By: wxboy911
Date Posted: 10 September 2005 at 6:00pm
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Anyone looking for an Apex should check out www.actionvillage.com...They are $109 with FREE Shipping. I will have to take another look at the Apex--Some of the posts on PBreview show it outshooting the flatline in distance and accuracy! ------------- "A Warrior Uses What Is At Hand" Custom 98(Black) Flatline J&J Edge Kit Response Trigger Full Boar Shadow Ricochet Apache 68ci 3000psi PMI 32 Degrees Remote Black Emmissary Vest |
Posted By: Cormier
Date Posted: 10 September 2005 at 6:33pm
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