SNIPER SYSTEM
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Topic: SNIPER SYSTEM
Posted By: raverfusion
Subject: SNIPER SYSTEM
Date Posted: 13 September 2005 at 11:29pm
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***UPDATED PHOTOS***
Ultimate sniper system with Ghillie wrap & working sound suppressor http://photos.yahoo.com/raverfusion@sbcglobal.net - http://photos.yahoo.com/raverfusion@sbcglobal.net
- Low pressure kit - 45mm red dot scope - response trigger - cyclone feeder - Custom desert/woodland camo paint job done by me - tac hopper - 14in silenced modded whisper barrel - star bolt - drop forward - bob long reg - raised weaver sight rail - ghillie rifle wrap (desert) more photos and possibly video posted soon... Peace..
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Posted By: Bango
Date Posted: 13 September 2005 at 11:46pm
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That's a very nice paintjob.
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Posted By: Monk
Date Posted: 13 September 2005 at 11:48pm
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It looks front heavy. *me cringes at the s-word wrath to come* |
Posted By: raverfusion
Date Posted: 13 September 2005 at 11:54pm
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suprisingly its VERY balanced by the time i attach my 88ci 4500 pure energy to it. the only down fall with this weapon is that its long! about 3ft its made for sniping and that is it. I have the response on it for when my cover gets blown. but its definatly the "one shot one kill" choice
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Monk wrote:Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 14 September 2005 at 12:09am
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Cool paintjob. Other than that, I ask "Where's Darur?" |
Posted By: Hella Cool
Date Posted: 14 September 2005 at 12:13am
| Seeing "sniper" in the thread name made me think you had a model 98 with the stock barrel, a quantam hopper, and a car stock. I was pleasantly surprised. Nice paint job, but that thing is hella long. Great looking gun though. Get a new barrel. |
Posted By: Saint
Date Posted: 14 September 2005 at 12:27am
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I like everything besides the drop forword, get a remote.
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Posted By: hunter61533
Date Posted: 14 September 2005 at 1:05am
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like the paint job looks sweet... but i dont like the drop forward get remote and stock ------------- Tippmann A-5 Flatline Barell Double Trigger Lapco Front Hand Grip Pure energy High pressure Remote. Collapsible stock |
Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 14 September 2005 at 1:29am
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That marker is very nice. The paint is awesome. You have a pretty good setup. Just don't be suprised if anyone posts "snipers don't exist in paintball". I like how the suppreser looks. ------------- X |
Posted By: raverfusion
Date Posted: 14 September 2005 at 1:32am
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I wear a full ghillie suit so remote would be pointless.(although i do have all that) the Drop forward with my tank acts a stock. Ill post a full photo with ghillie action soon thanks for the input |
Posted By: raverfusion
Date Posted: 14 September 2005 at 1:34am
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Thats a whole other debatable subject, but noted, thanks "THIS IS NOT A SPEEDBALL MARKER" |
Posted By: cv222005
Date Posted: 14 September 2005 at 9:00am
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dude u copied my paint scheme. lol, jk...(although it is verry similar) its ok. ------------- 
98C R/T M4 foregrips W/sightpost 3POS-M4 STOCK REMOTE |
Posted By: paintbusta
Date Posted: 14 September 2005 at 4:39pm
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nice and welcome to da forums ------------- 
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Posted By: Large Unit
Date Posted: 14 September 2005 at 5:23pm
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awesome paintjob, bet that setup is pretty nasty in the woods nice job. Bad choice of barrel though. |
Posted By: pbdude985
Date Posted: 14 September 2005 at 6:21pm
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sweet paintjob dude , nice lookin gun i like it ------------- 
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Posted By: SuzukiRider987
Date Posted: 14 September 2005 at 6:25pm
Sweet. That's one deadly setup for woodsball.  ------------- http://www.macdev.net - MacDev Militia http://www.alienpb.com - Alien - Because winning is more fun. |
Posted By: TruePaintballer
Date Posted: 14 September 2005 at 6:31pm
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that paint job is sick...however i dont really dig the marker itself ------------- http://www.freewebs.com/outlawspaintball/index.htm - Outlaws *Sponsors* http://www.abrika.ca - Abrika |
Posted By: raverfusion
Date Posted: 14 September 2005 at 7:03pm
why is that such a bad choice in barrels?? (acually a thunder pig i guess) I didnt buy this barrel the previous owner did. also what i like about the barrel is that my supressor attaches VERY nicely, using O-rings its twistes on tight. what do you all suggest? im open for ideas and opinions that is why i posted. Thanks for the input. also just a side note this is a "TIPPMANN" forum. whats the deal with all the other non-tippmann markers posted and tippmann bashing??!! |
Posted By: shiftykyle101
Date Posted: 14 September 2005 at 7:06pm
| sniper is a bad word here. |
Posted By: Seipher
Date Posted: 14 September 2005 at 7:52pm
-------------  in modern warfare, victory goes to the nutcase with the biggest explosions.
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Posted By: Mr.Shake56
Date Posted: 14 September 2005 at 8:28pm
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\very nice luve the paintjob
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Posted By: raverfusion
Date Posted: 14 September 2005 at 8:29pm
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ok I just want to end all talk about being a "SNIPER" I TOTALLY agree with Seipher. I just dont want to start an argument. Im a paintball sniper and my shots are about 50ft-75ft and thats it. maybe closer. My tactics are in this article http://specialopspaintball.com/articles/the_true_paintball_sniper.asp?OVRAW=paintball%20sniper%20scope&OVKEY=paintball%20scope%20sniper&OVMTC=standard - http://specialopspaintball.com/articles/the_true_paintball_s niper.asp?OVRAW=paintball%20sniper%20scope&OVKEY=paintba ll%20scope%20sniper&OVMTC=standard I flank, sneak and crawl while my teammates keep them down with supressive fire. Thats all! I go full ghillie and just try to break up enemy lines that is all. alot of times i dont even shoot out a player if its NOT to my advantage. sniper talk DONE! now about my gun?... |
Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 14 September 2005 at 8:52pm
| /Summoning Darur! |
Posted By: shmavistime
Date Posted: 14 September 2005 at 8:58pm
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unless you play outlawball your going to need to take that suppresor
off. Not sure if its homemeade or a company(lapco maybe?) but most
places wont let you use one. I used to have one but reilized it was
only good for pictures since a paintball gun is already fairly queit.
------------- 41(no joke) guns and counting the .50 cal warrior 
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Posted By: raverfusion
Date Posted: 14 September 2005 at 9:26pm
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ive read just about every thing on the suppressor issue. I know all about the law. fortunatly i have had NO problems with it. and yes its homemade. and no im not taking it off |
Posted By: raverfusion
Date Posted: 14 September 2005 at 9:27pm
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what is that suppose to mean? Forum inside joke?? WTH |
Posted By: Seipher
Date Posted: 14 September 2005 at 10:16pm
------------- in modern warfare, victory goes to the nutcase with the biggest explosions.
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Posted By: Mehs
Date Posted: 14 September 2005 at 10:44pm
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I'm sure some random person on the internet will instantly change my views of people who are afraid of up close combat.
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 14 September 2005 at 10:59pm
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True, but it's amusing to watch them argue. |
Posted By: Seipher
Date Posted: 14 September 2005 at 11:01pm
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also, we are not afraid of close combat, our purpose is to get as close as we can to take the shot, so its just the opposite, we like to get up close and personal with our targets (at least i do). once again, another untrue misconception. ------------- in modern warfare, victory goes to the nutcase with the biggest explosions.
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Posted By: raverfusion
Date Posted: 15 September 2005 at 12:11am
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thanks for the compliments and info I have ordered a new barrel. 14in lapco Big shot. (read too many good things about it) and i will paint and modify to work with my suppressor. Im also going to cut down the suppressor 2 inches |
Posted By: Kayback
Date Posted: 15 September 2005 at 5:47am
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Do some fields really not allow supressors/look alikes? Why is that?
KBK |
Posted By: raverfusion
Date Posted: 15 September 2005 at 10:04am
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look it up in a search on yahoo. also about mine. it doesnt "Silence" the marker. it supresses the sound as if you were to put your hand over your barrel, and fire a shot. just a differant noise. it also is not visably detectable when i shoot. but you can hear it. you will know im shooting at you, but you wont see the gas release. That alone is a benifit, because in the fog of war you will get confused which direction possibly its coming from, and think it was one of the 20 paint wasters just over there, and not think that you just got sniped from the side. that is all it does. alot of times i really have to light them up because they think its FF and wipe to stay in the game LOL i think that is the funniest..the fields ive played at... ive always showed its to them and fired it for them and always got an ok. if they say NO then ill just take it off not a big deal. |
Posted By: whack-a-mole
Date Posted: 15 September 2005 at 10:51am
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that's pretty cool. ------------- NASA and the Americans spent millions of dollars and hundreds of hours to develop a pen that would write in space.....The Russians used a pencil. |
Posted By: Seipher
Date Posted: 15 September 2005 at 4:08pm
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you could just say its a dust or rain cover and you can keep it. my field does that. (for fear of law, i aint tellin which field WE MUST FIGHT THE ATF! ------------- in modern warfare, victory goes to the nutcase with the biggest explosions.
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Posted By: dmp4892
Date Posted: 15 September 2005 at 4:15pm
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where is Darur, that lovely little dwarf? ------------- 
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Posted By: raverfusion
Date Posted: 15 September 2005 at 9:05pm
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Ok so i just decided not to get the lapco I got a whisper instead, which in my opinion is PERFECT for what i wanted to do. I used the last part of the barrel to replace the inner part of my suppressor. NOW its WAY quieter and MORE accurate, and ONLY 14inch TOTAL!!! Hella Sweet Ill post pics later i want to get a video up
**I like that "Dust cover idea!" also you could say its just "Mock"
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Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 16 September 2005 at 4:09pm
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Very nice woodsball gun, better than most of the people who say they
are snipers by slapping an inaccurate flatline and a car stock on their
gun and running around avoiding the fighting in the woods.
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Posted By: Seipher
Date Posted: 16 September 2005 at 5:05pm
------------- in modern warfare, victory goes to the nutcase with the biggest explosions.
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Posted By: Seipher
Date Posted: 16 September 2005 at 5:09pm
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now i wish darur was hear too, that "lovely little dwarf" needs a good talkin to... ------------- in modern warfare, victory goes to the nutcase with the biggest explosions.
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Posted By: tippmannlova
Date Posted: 16 September 2005 at 5:30pm
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i like the sniper idea but thats just me. I dont see what is wrong with it. One Shot One Kill- that is to my liking-less paint wasted ------------- I like painball |
Posted By: Seipher
Date Posted: 16 September 2005 at 5:35pm
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i didnt mean all speedballers, just the ones who think that everything else is for wimps. the oklahoma d-day invasion scenario is like the largest paintball game out there! and guess what, its scenario, involving SNIPERS! to the cool speedballers who support us woodsballers: im sorry, i don't like being a jerk, but some people bring out the worst in me... ------------- in modern warfare, victory goes to the nutcase with the biggest explosions.
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Posted By: raverfusion
Date Posted: 16 September 2005 at 7:15pm
damn, Darur hasnt even said anything yet |
...LOL no i totally agree however tourney guys do have their place, if it wasnt for them we wouldnt have the cool equipment. (I will never own a tourney gun) but i do think that paintball is better with them and us wood guys.
I thinks its immature to post on any forum crap about anyone. but then I know most of you are kids. No pun intended. just keep it cool this thread was about my gun somewhere Posted By: Seipher
Date Posted: 16 September 2005 at 9:43pm
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yeah, your right...but i just dont like darur. he got me with a sniper talk once, so call it a quest to prove him wrong... vengance is sweet.... ------------- in modern warfare, victory goes to the nutcase with the biggest explosions.
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Posted By: raverfusion
Date Posted: 16 September 2005 at 10:04pm
Roger that |
Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 16 September 2005 at 10:20pm
Good luck with that.
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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 16 September 2005 at 10:27pm
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So true..... Darur is the best anti sniper speaker out there... We should hire him to travel to fields and preach the good news! ------------- 
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Posted By: Seipher
Date Posted: 16 September 2005 at 10:28pm
im starting to think you wankers are doing this deliberately... ------------- in modern warfare, victory goes to the nutcase with the biggest explosions.
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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 16 September 2005 at 10:40pm
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You need to come play with my senerio team sometime, and well prove to there are no "snipers" in paintball. As soon as you get your head out of your butt and see the light, the sooner you will realize there are no snipers in paintball. -------------
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Posted By: Seipher
Date Posted: 16 September 2005 at 10:45pm
------------- in modern warfare, victory goes to the nutcase with the biggest explosions.
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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 16 September 2005 at 10:54pm
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I am in VA, so it doesnt look like it isnt happening, let me root up one of my old posts on the matter, because I am to tried to write one up now.... -------------
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Posted By: Seipher
Date Posted: 16 September 2005 at 10:55pm
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id be happy if there is some kind of truce... ------------- in modern warfare, victory goes to the nutcase with the biggest explosions.
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Posted By: Mehs
Date Posted: 16 September 2005 at 11:06pm
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What's the point of debating when no one will change their views? Agree to disagree?
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Posted By: Seipher
Date Posted: 16 September 2005 at 11:13pm
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------------- in modern warfare, victory goes to the nutcase with the biggest explosions.
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Posted By: SR_Crewchief
Date Posted: 17 September 2005 at 12:02am
Old farts like me would be happy to acknowledge snipers in paintball if it wasn't for one little problem...none of the tactics presented are any different from basic tactics. I'm retired Army and have worked with snipers, sniper instructors, Rangers, Special Forces, etc, so I have some small knowledge in this area. I've played paintball with snipers, Rangers, etc and not one of them thinks that the tactics and skills that set a sniper apart from a basic infantryman can be effectively applied to the game. Yes, I've read the various articles that tout "sniper tactics" in paintball. Not one of them, including the ones linked earlier in this thread, promote anything special. Camoflage? Basic infantry skill. Weapons proficientcy? Basic infantry skill. Ambush? Basic infantry skill. Flanking movement? Basic infantry skill. On and on and on. One thing that does standout...the tactics are more effectively executed by a small squad than by an individual. SR_Crewchief |
Posted By: raverfusion
Date Posted: 17 September 2005 at 11:07am
I agree, but the problem is that not to many in paintball do thoses things...yes compared to USMC or ARMY ITs not "sniping" in the terms you are decribing...in paintball its differant when everone just hides behind bunkers the whole time...as "Paintball snipers" we sneak though enemy lines and give recon, and take out specific targets like a squad leader (in senario games) or just some one who has our team pinned down. using flanking, camo, and crawling manuvers. yes that is all "basic training in the real military (DUH!! ) but those tactics are not often used in paintball. the link http://specialopspaintball.com/articles/the_true_paintball_sniper.asp?OVRAW=paintball%20sniper%20scope&OVKEY=paintball%20scope%20sniper&OVMTC=standard - http://specialopspaintball.com/articles/the_true_paintball_s niper.asp?OVRAW=paintball%20sniper%20scope&OVKEY=paintba ll%20scope%20sniper&OVMTC=standard Like i posted before.. is what paint ball snipers do when when no one else is doing that... its about not getting in a firefight its about getting people out with out being seen. its about one shot, one (OUT) yes anyone can do that (even touney guys with flashy markers) but we make it a point to try to play that way by getting ghille suits (for the right course) and delibratly role play a sniper. OK???
there is NO possible way to be a "SNIPER" in the sense that you long ball someone..we all agree on that!!! |
Posted By: Apu
Date Posted: 17 September 2005 at 11:32am
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"Snipers" are too damn stubborn to give up, although I must say,
without you guys us other guys don't get a good laugh when we see you
walking around dressed up like something from my flower bed.
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 17 September 2005 at 12:32pm
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If snipers sneak up, and shoot someone, than everyone in woodsball is a sniper. There are no snipers in paintball, to call yourself a sniper is the same as callign yourself a noob. Just accept it, get over it, if anything, you are a standard riffleman with a guille suit, you arent a sniper, the sniper threads are getting old.
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Posted By: Hella Cool
Date Posted: 17 September 2005 at 1:54pm
| Great point DBib. And raverfusion, stop linking to an article written by a company trying to sell noobs thousands of dollars worth of "sniper" gear. |
Posted By: Mehs
Date Posted: 17 September 2005 at 3:25pm
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After reading that article, raverfusion, I have come to the conclusion
that almost anyone who buys into that article must be a complete idiot
to go with their advertising, that article is clearly just a huge
advertisment, they want you to buy their stuff, they want you to get
excited over stupid "sniper" tactics, and make you think that you'll be
elite if you buy their junk, it's made even more obvious when they have
links to the "gear" they describe in the dumb article. ------------- [IMG]http://i27.tinypic.com/1538fbc.jpg"> Squeeze Box ☣ |
Posted By: SR_Crewchief
Date Posted: 17 September 2005 at 3:58pm
What it comes down too is this. It is better for the recball/scenario/big game to adapt and teach small unit tactics and sportsmanship than to promote individual performance. By doing that your promote the growth of the sport. |
Posted By: barrel tap
Date Posted: 17 September 2005 at 6:12pm
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Look, I don't know why everyone gives these guys who call themselves
snipers such guff. They are simply using "sniper" as a general
term for their tactics, which rely on concealment rather than
overwhelming firepower. Myself, a recent convert to the school of hardcore stock player have to rely on fast, agressive tactics on the field to compensate for the shortcommings in rate of fire and ammunition of my marker. All snipe means (look it up, go ahead) is to fire on an enemy from a concealled position. The word sniper comes from the name for hunters of the bird the snipe, who used heavy camo to target their prey. The french gillie's then came along with their suits of the same name, with the purpose of blending not only with the color of the environment, but with the texture and look of folliage. Three dimensional camo, as you've probably heard many times before, is only so effective because it breaks up the smooth lines of the human form that would otherwise stand out in an environment. So therefore, gillie suits, while ideally modified for the specific field, aren't entirely necessary. Additionally, I have met players who have made customized suits, which isn't that hard if you live anywhere near the field, cause the forest near your house most likely has very similar plant life to the area you will be playing in. My point: To each is own. You don't need to be militant anti-sniper-type-players, because quite frankly what have the "snipers" ever done to you? That is, besides criticize the high volume of paint you shoot? Some of us can't afford to play that way (myself included), and would rather not. ------------- VSC Phantom w/ Palmer Stabilizer + Vertical Pump Handle |
Posted By: SR_Crewchief
Date Posted: 17 September 2005 at 8:20pm
I'd give our statements some creedence...except the gilliesuit comes from the SCOTISH gillies (game keepers/wardens) not the French. |
Posted By: Seipher
Date Posted: 17 September 2005 at 11:46pm
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i support barrel tap's statement. it dosent describe the person, it describes the tactics. the word sniper has developed such a stigma, that people who use it are considered noobs. this is sad. i support snipers mostly, but i also enjoy running around and getting mixed up in the big firefights as much as the next guy. i just prefer being sneaky...that doesnt make me a noob. ------------- in modern warfare, victory goes to the nutcase with the biggest explosions.
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Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 17 September 2005 at 11:50pm
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honestly, why can't we just all get along. People arn't going one way or the other. I don't understand what's wrong with ghillisuits. It's superior camo. Just because someone is wearing ghilli doesn't mean they're a "sniper". I know everyone uses "sniper tactics" but snipers use them more than the common paintballer. does that make them better? no. It's a STYLE of play, much like a position on the speedball field. If snipers didn't excist, why do we have all those articals in magazines? In scenario events, our "sniper" is actually a recon. He uses a scope to watch opponents bases and uses one of those JT walkie talkie headset things whitch fit inside his mask to communicate. He'll take a shot or two at people, and get them out, but mainly, he just lets his team know when it is safe to raid or not. i'm not looking foward to getting flamed. But for the record, i'm not a sniper. ------------- X |
Posted By: Seipher
Date Posted: 18 September 2005 at 12:22am
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^^^ive tried to make peace repeatedly this thread, but people keep on going. i still agree with getting along, and this may sound hyprocritical (?) but if you keep on arguing, im gonna argue right back. its just who i am. so lets just call this sniper conversation over and get back to rating the gun. PLEASE! ------------- in modern warfare, victory goes to the nutcase with the biggest explosions.
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Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 18 September 2005 at 12:25am
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i agree. btw: i give the gun a 8.5/10 ------------- X |
Posted By: raverfusion
Date Posted: 19 September 2005 at 10:49pm
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in the midst of all the BS |
Posted By: raverfusion
Date Posted: 19 September 2005 at 10:58pm
well said thank you, flame me all you want doesnt change how i want to play. I will still own and get owned in return. I never once said that im a "Lone wolf" I love working with a squad, i just wish more people do that. I love my ghillie suit. I disagree with any one (including the "Vet" who i respect every thing you have said) about the use on ghillies. in the heat of the fight, its amazing how easy it is to be concield. but i just think that ghillies are fun and will use it when Necessary on the right map. |
Posted By: Saint
Date Posted: 19 September 2005 at 11:08pm
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Shut up about the term, and rate his gun. I love your gun man, the only thing I don't like is the drop forword. 8.75/10 -------------
First to play, last to stay. MN Militia. SETUP Tippmann C98 12" All American - Opsgear M4 Foregrip - M4 Mag Kit - Solid Stock |
Posted By: raverfusion
Date Posted: 19 September 2005 at 11:10pm
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Thanks dude, whats wrong with the Drop forward? and what would you do besides a remote?? |
Posted By: tightness79
Date Posted: 19 September 2005 at 11:56pm
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Grow up and get a life guys. ------------- Ans GX-3 Dye ultra light E2 JAckhammer LPR ANS gen-x 2 reg eclipse QEV's nexus ram Egg 2 68/3000 carbon fiber tank Uni-mount |
Posted By: Saint
Date Posted: 20 September 2005 at 12:05am
A drop forword is pretty much the only option besides a remote, I run a rome and love it, personally I don't like them just because how they look. I'm biased since I run a remote I guess :P, anyways man, awesome gun. -------------
First to play, last to stay. MN Militia. SETUP Tippmann C98 12" All American - Opsgear M4 Foregrip - M4 Mag Kit - Solid Stock |
Posted By: raverfusion
Date Posted: 20 September 2005 at 1:05am
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Posted By: Blaze SA
Date Posted: 21 September 2005 at 10:01am
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8.5 out of 10 ! neat. There is no such thing as a Sniper... call yourself that and you WILL be ripped off by anyone playing speedball... nothing wrong with the tactics just the term sounds nerdy as if you a wanabe that plays too many PC games.  enough saidcheers  |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 21 September 2005 at 9:22pm
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^^^dude! NOT COOL! all you are gonna do is start another argument! just dont say anything about that word! ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell" 
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Posted By: Nutteralex
Date Posted: 21 September 2005 at 9:56pm
What the hell do you think a "Sniper Rifle" is you dumbass. I've read your other posts and you are completely oblivious that there is no Sniping in paintball. But nice gat. I think you asked about what barrel to get later on? Well If I was you get Redz Pepperstick. Mine is sweet, it's a 14 in. ------------- Please for the love of god don't get a flatline. |
Posted By: raverfusion
Date Posted: 21 September 2005 at 11:36pm
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blah blah blah can i delete my thread already? I think you all are taking me the wrong way... Nutter look up the work sniper your the dumb ass. heres some help http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=sniper - http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=sniper That is all im saying I DO, in paintball. I have the gear, I have the gun (just like you all do, mine does NOT shoot better or farther than yours) I just gear my game around a differant way of playing. deploying common tactics that militant snipers and infantry use. Now just leave it at that |
Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 22 September 2005 at 1:53am
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^^^lol even the creater of the thread knows when to let it die..... ------------- X |