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Topic: Apex for cheaters???
Posted By: Xspyderman
Subject: Apex for cheaters???
Date Posted: 15 September 2005 at 5:26pm

The Apex barrel is amazing in its ability to curve shots around, under, and over bunkers.  Perhaps it will be as common place as R/T's and E-grips are today... but for now I think it is pretty much for cheaters that can't play normal paintball.  I do ofcourse realize no one is truly cheating until the Apex is banned.  If I were a field owner I would outlaw it now, before too many people buy it and can't use it.  Some of you would say the Flatline is the same, but asside from being able really reach out far, and being able to make some curved shots by tipping your flatline equiped marker to 10-30°, it is not nearly as extreme as the Apex.

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Hot button:  The Apex could be very popular among serious speedballers, since they are mostly, not all now, but mostly cheaters.  Ouch!  Bring it on...



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Posted By: TruePaintballer
Date Posted: 15 September 2005 at 5:30pm

in speedball the term "speed" is what you need to play...switching and tuning your Apex barrel would be terrible...its slow and if someone tried to bunker you and you were curved you would have 0% chance of surviving.



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Posted By: pooperscooper
Date Posted: 15 September 2005 at 5:31pm
Its not really for cheaters I mean its not like you automatically hit people that are behind bunkers. Its not really that big a deal to have them curve side to side because you would really have to be good at it to hit people like that. I do think the flatline mode and the 'down' mode are cool though. you could play speed with it set to down all the time and just aim higher and higher until you can get them curving right down on top of enemys heads. It would be awesome to nail someone right on the top of the head like that.

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Posted By: Xspyderman
Date Posted: 15 September 2005 at 5:40pm
^^^ The Apex does not have a "Flatline mode".  It curves a ball low and up for its long shot... not flat and straight like the Flatline...  It would be fun to shoot peeps right on top of the head...

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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 15 September 2005 at 5:46pm
Luddite.


Posted By: Mag-a-Man
Date Posted: 15 September 2005 at 5:53pm
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Posted By: SuzukiRider987
Date Posted: 15 September 2005 at 6:09pm

Do you want people to argue with you or what? It seems that way to me.



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Posted By: Sargent Duck
Date Posted: 15 September 2005 at 6:38pm
I'd hardly call it cheating. If anyone took that out in speedball, I think they'd get wasted. For example, if I ran to a bunker, and someone on the other team had an Apex, they'd probably try to him me while curving around the bunker. They'd have to set it, then get the range. I'd clue in pretty fast when I see balls curving behind me. Just as he gets the right distance, I'd move to another bunker. He'd have to reset, and re-aim. Meanwhile, I'd probably be lacing his bunker with paint, so he can't shoot. Or I'd run straight at him to bunker him, while he's desperatly shooting at me, only to see his balls curve helplessly around me.

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Posted By: SuzukiRider987
Date Posted: 15 September 2005 at 6:55pm
^^Yea, that's very true. I think the Apex is more suited for woods then Speed.

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Posted By: Monk
Date Posted: 15 September 2005 at 7:16pm

The apex is just another new product, the game changes, get use to it.

Plus this should be in T&O or NP.


Posted By: Razgriz Ghost
Date Posted: 15 September 2005 at 7:24pm
The Apex is in my opinion just another barrel with brass eagle shot through it. I don't find it at all itimadateing or impressive.


Posted By: cdacda13
Date Posted: 15 September 2005 at 8:00pm
HA!

All your posts make me laugh


Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 15 September 2005 at 9:10pm
Is the flatline for cheaters?


Posted By: MrRiblets
Date Posted: 15 September 2005 at 9:13pm
I think its just a Super Cronium knock off. lol.

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Posted By: Sargent Duck
Date Posted: 15 September 2005 at 9:32pm
LOL, a Super Cronium for the masses!

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Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 15 September 2005 at 9:33pm
Super Chromium.  ChroMMMMMMium.

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Posted By: MrRiblets
Date Posted: 15 September 2005 at 11:30pm

lol. I thought it was chroninum. Chromium isnt even a word...



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Posted By: Monk
Date Posted: 15 September 2005 at 11:55pm
Originally posted by MrRiblets MrRiblets wrote:

lol. I thought it was chroninum. Chromium isnt even a word...


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You silly little monkey.


Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 16 September 2005 at 3:53am
The Apex Barrel isnt really worth getting, its for those campers and those (Im not even gonna say it cus everyone might get a cardiac arrest if the word is mentioned), ya know...the ones you'll find in a scenario game....

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Posted By: Sargent Duck
Date Posted: 16 September 2005 at 11:30am
Originally posted by evil_fingers evil_fingers wrote:

The Apex Barrel isnt really worth getting, its for those campers and those (Im not even gonna say it cus everyone might get a cardiac arrest if the word is mentioned), ya know...the ones you'll find in a scenario game....


You mean the s-word?


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Posted By: Xspyderman
Date Posted: 16 September 2005 at 1:29pm
Originally posted by SuzukiRider987 SuzukiRider987 wrote:

Do you want people to argue with you or what? It seems that way to me.

Do you not know how to PM? 

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Posted By: Xspyderman
Date Posted: 16 September 2005 at 1:36pm
Originally posted by Monk Monk wrote:


The apex is just another new product, the game changes, get use to it.

Plus this should be in T&O or NP.
Is it not about an upgrade item?  This does not belong in T&O at all.  That's for deep philosophical questions like, "What's your favorite color?", or earth shattering comments on world events... that area is for the deep thinkers on this forum... if it is paint ball related, it should not be posted in T&O...

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Posted By: Monk
Date Posted: 16 September 2005 at 5:33pm
Originally posted by Xspyderman Xspyderman wrote:

Originally posted by Monk Monk wrote:


The apex is just another new product, the game changes, get use to it.

Plus this should be in T&O or NP.
Is it not about an upgrade item?  This does not belong in T&O at all.  That's for deep philosophical questions like, "What's your favorite color?", or earth shattering comments on world events... that area is for the deep thinkers on this forum... if it is paint ball related, it should not be posted in T&O...


Hehehe, I just said that to make you twitchy.


Posted By: supergman
Date Posted: 16 September 2005 at 6:31pm
A local field owner here has a 98C with an Apex. I've seen him shoot it and while the balls do curve sideways, I don't think the curve is not drastic enough to hit someone immediately on the other side of a bunker. But on the "drop" setting, the balls drop like rocks. To me, the barrel isn't that big of a deal. It's player skill, not equipment that determines how good one is at the game.

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Posted By: Cormier
Date Posted: 16 September 2005 at 7:35pm

Hey I actually tested a apex barrel at the start its pretty hard to get used to but when your used to it, it only takes like 3 seconds to set it where you want it to curve to.



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Posted By: SuzukiRider987
Date Posted: 16 September 2005 at 8:25pm
^^^In a fast paced speedball game 3 seconds is a long time.

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Posted By: shadow ace
Date Posted: 16 September 2005 at 9:47pm
yeah i agree^^

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Posted By: Seipher
Date Posted: 16 September 2005 at 10:31pm
Originally posted by Sargent Duck Sargent Duck wrote:

Originally posted by evil_fingers evil_fingers wrote:

The Apex Barrel isnt really worth getting, its for those campers and those (Im not even gonna say it cus everyone might get a cardiac arrest if the word is mentioned), ya know...the ones you'll find in a scenario game....


You mean the s-word?
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Posted By: Mehs
Date Posted: 16 September 2005 at 10:49pm
Seems like another huge novelty item, people will get it, and switch back to their other barrel(s) after a few games, after they figure out they don't like it too much, I've seen this with a lot of things like the apex barrel.

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Posted By: whack-a-mole
Date Posted: 17 September 2005 at 10:29am
I don't really care, let them have their apex barrel if they want it. It'll be that much sweeter when you get them out.

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Posted By: MrRiblets
Date Posted: 17 September 2005 at 1:17pm
Originally posted by Monk Monk wrote:

Originally posted by MrRiblets MrRiblets wrote:

lol. I thought it was chroninum. Chromium isnt even a word...


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You silly little monkey.

  I feel so sad. I dont really like the apex, I watched a vid and the balls were going everywhere when it was set at flatline mode. The curveing mode worked well though.



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Posted By: Bruce A. Frank
Date Posted: 17 September 2005 at 1:46pm

Originally posted by evil_fingers evil_fingers wrote:

The Apex Barrel isn't really worth getting, its for those campers and those (I'm not even gonna say it 'cus everyone might get a cardiac arrest if the word is mentioned), ya know...the ones you'll find in a scenario game....

If one is interested in a Flatline, then the Apex is a good alternative. The Apex is, right now, selling for the same price as the Flatline in many of the on-line stores.

Use it in Flatline mode, using the other curving modes when you really, really have to wrap a shot around that bunker.

Now let's approach the word "sniper" for a second. This barrel may make "sniper" legitimate in paintball. A sniper shoots from a hidden sometimes undetectable position. If you are behind your bunker a "sniper," with the Apex, may hit you leaving you with no idea as to where the shot originated. Sounds like "sniping" to me!



Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 17 September 2005 at 6:29pm
I could imagine a backman in speedball using the Apex to help his balls drop right on top of opponents behind bunkers.A couple backmen with apexes and the ability to use them proficiently would be frightening.

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Posted By: Bruce A. Frank
Date Posted: 17 September 2005 at 7:41pm

Originally posted by brihard brihard wrote:

I could imagine a backman in speedball using the Apex to help his balls drop right on top of opponents behind bunkers.A couple backmen with apexes and the ability to use them proficiently would be frightening.

YES, and I have on on order right now! It may not be the best for a snap shot, but when I am posting on someone it will be an equalizer.

Then again, there are so many darn cheaters (spell that ramping bps and velocity) in the advanced games, I need something unique.



Posted By: Bruce A. Frank
Date Posted: 17 September 2005 at 7:51pm

Originally posted by Monk Monk wrote:


(snip)
Plus this should be in T&O or NP.

It appears to me to be a discussion on the value of this upgrade. A true customization of the marker. Half the questions on this forum are, "Should I get this?" and "Is this any good?" This is exactly where this post should be. Some people are expressing opinions about it while others are relating experience, sources and general info. Tell me how this question is less relevant than "What color should I paint my marker?" or "I have some money, what upgrades should I get?" which we see here all the time.

 



Posted By: Sargent Duck
Date Posted: 17 September 2005 at 8:13pm
Originally posted by Bruce A. Frank Bruce A. Frank wrote:


YES, and I have on on order right now! It may not be the best for a snap shot, but when I am posting on someone it will be an equalizer.

Then again, there are so many darn cheaters (spell that ramping bps and velocity) in the advanced games, I need something unique.



Make sure you do one thing when you get. Make a thread about your experiences. Although I'd never get it (I'm a front player), I'd really like to hear from someone knowledgeable as to how the barrel works out. Oh, and maby some videos of you shooting high quality paint.


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Posted By: Seipher
Date Posted: 18 September 2005 at 12:06am
i saw the vid. it was not very accurate. at all. i would rather go speedballing with a slingshot than use an apex. id probably get more hits to!

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Posted By: Monk
Date Posted: 18 September 2005 at 12:10am
Originally posted by Bruce A. Frank Bruce A. Frank wrote:

Originally posted by Monk Monk wrote:


(snip)
Plus this should be in T&O or NP.

It appears to me to be a discussion on the value of this upgrade. A true customization of the marker. Half the questions on this forum are, "Should I get this?" and "Is this any good?" This is exactly where this post should be. Some people are expressing opinions about it while others are relating experience, sources and general info. Tell me how this question is less relevant than "What color should I paint my marker?" or "I have some money, what upgrades should I get?" which we see here all the time.

 


Again, it was a joke.


Posted By: Seipher
Date Posted: 18 September 2005 at 1:05am
poooor monk! your sense of humor is so misunderstood! i feel for ya, i really do!

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Posted By: Bruce A. Frank
Date Posted: 18 September 2005 at 2:39am

Originally posted by Monk Monk wrote:


Again, it was a joke.

Sorry, this doesn't seem to be the place for subtlety.




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