Shocker vs 98c
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Category: Paintball Equipment
Forum Name: Which Gun is Best
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Topic: Shocker vs 98c
Posted By: pooperscooper
Subject: Shocker vs 98c
Date Posted: 19 September 2005 at 5:02pm
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I
have a 98 custom with lots of ups (check the sig) and I am
thinking about upgrading to a Shocker. I need more opinions on this. ------------- Chuck Norris doesnt read books, he stares them down untill he gets the information he wants. |
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 19 September 2005 at 7:13pm
| What kind of Shocker is it? Upgrades on it? |
Posted By: whack-a-mole
Date Posted: 19 September 2005 at 7:40pm
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why do you need the shocker? If you're happy with the 98 than keep it. ------------- NASA and the Americans spent millions of dollars and hundreds of hours to develop a pen that would write in space.....The Russians used a pencil. |
Posted By: cdacda13
Date Posted: 19 September 2005 at 8:43pm
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You can't compare the two. Ones only like 150, the other is 700. I wouldn't get a shocker though, too many problems if you dont know how to take care of it. |
Posted By: TruePaintballer
Date Posted: 19 September 2005 at 10:30pm
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^^ exactly...how can you compare a Shocker with a Tippmann...anyways if you are gonna by a high end marker make sure you ask the pro shop or wherever to show you careful instuctions of how to take care of it ------------- http://www.freewebs.com/outlawspaintball/index.htm - Outlaws *Sponsors* http://www.abrika.ca - Abrika |
Posted By: tippmanncp
Date Posted: 25 September 2005 at 8:58pm
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ya if u go shocker learn to take care of it also if u dint have hpa now get it ------------- http://www.abandofbrothers.com/ - Band of Brothers Proudly Sponsered by http://www.missionmasters.com/mm/missionpaintball.htm - Mission Masters |
Posted By: MoNkeY Hunter
Date Posted: 27 September 2005 at 5:47pm
| 98c deffenetly, that be my dream gun. Id pick a ebolted 98C with a few mods and upgrads over a angel. |
Posted By: Lightningbolt
Date Posted: 27 September 2005 at 9:25pm
98c. No question. Shocker's suck
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Posted By: Cheetos3254
Date Posted: 28 September 2005 at 5:30pm
| Shocker most definately! |
Posted By: awblah
Date Posted: 28 September 2005 at 8:32pm
| Shockers suck? Wow last time i checked the best team in the country uses shockers. Get a shocker hands down. |
Posted By: ninety8freak
Date Posted: 28 September 2005 at 10:44pm
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awblah wrote:Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 28 September 2005 at 11:03pm
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I'm gonna have to bet that they use them because they're sponsored by Smart Parts.... |
Posted By: CLos98C
Date Posted: 29 September 2005 at 6:26pm
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right ------------- 
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Posted By: BUBBAS-PAINTBAL
Date Posted: 29 September 2005 at 9:21pm
| omg. shockers are wonderful markers. if you are getting into tournaments and need a better gun a shocker is really nice. personaly i dont really like the 03 vision shockers too much but i love ton tons. although they are a bit more pricey. i'd also consider a proto, defiant 2, even an ion with ups. |
Posted By: awblah
Date Posted: 29 September 2005 at 10:39pm
Haha, im sry your right, Dynasty hates their guns, i totally forgot. Durrrrrrrrr people, come on if the gun sucked they wouldnt use it. Im sry, but dynasty wouldnt be dynasty with ions. |
Posted By: MeanMan
Date Posted: 30 September 2005 at 3:34pm
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shocker would be worth more than a 98 with ups ------------- 
hybrid-sniper~"To be honest, if I see a player still using an Impulse I'm going to question their motives." |
Posted By: Sargent Duck
Date Posted: 30 September 2005 at 5:44pm
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Definetly shocker. Freestyles are pretty nice too, but I believe they're a little more.
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Posted By: Large Unit
Date Posted: 01 October 2005 at 4:46pm
| I don't like shockers myself and would much rather have a proto or freestyle, but you can't even try to compare a 98c with one, go for the shocker. |
Posted By: ANARCHY_SCOUT
Date Posted: 01 October 2005 at 5:56pm
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Im happy with my 98c its awsome if you get the WAS board to fit (you will need to mill it) it will got the fastest youll need it to go. ------------- Gamertag: Kataklysm999 
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Posted By: tippmanncp
Date Posted: 02 October 2005 at 8:35pm
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dude shockers are great markers especially the octane shockers so i say go with the shocker but its ur choice in the long run ------------- http://www.abandofbrothers.com/ - Band of Brothers Proudly Sponsered by http://www.missionmasters.com/mm/missionpaintball.htm - Mission Masters |
Posted By: A-5_massacre
Date Posted: 06 October 2005 at 1:23am
| A shocker would kill any tippmann any day. This is not even worth a poll. All you people who think that a 98 is better are not very knowledgable on paintballing. The shocker is way lighter and way faster. It would not even be a challenge. It would be like target practice. |
Posted By: Mr. Spiffy
Date Posted: 06 October 2005 at 6:54pm
After having been through some of the ups and downs of paintball, I can tell that "high-end" usually stands for "high-priced", not "high-performance". A 98c will do you find with a few good upgrades. I'm not sure what you have already, but get an anti-siphoned CO2 tank... which you can do yourself. Getting a sring kit or screwing around with the springs of the 98 will change the performance a lot as well. I have an R/T and it hasn't done me justice. It adds weight and tends to really waste gas when you let the gun open up. If you want to spend the money, an upper end HPA tank will give you all the shots you need. Just keep it simple. Electronic markers aren't weather proof, so weather will limit you. Paintball's about having fun first. Save your money for the field  .------------- Missing: 2nd star and 960+ posts to my name. -Another victim of the system. |
Posted By: Mr. Spiffy
Date Posted: 06 October 2005 at 6:58pm
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P.S.- If you want a marker that will serve you well and give you something different to play with, go for the A-5. From my friends who've used it, its worth every penny you put into it. ------------- Missing: 2nd star and 960+ posts to my name. -Another victim of the system. |
Posted By: A-5_massacre
Date Posted: 07 October 2005 at 12:23am
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Mr. Spiffy: After having been through some of the ups and downs of paintball, I can tell that "high-end" usually stands for "high-priced", not "high-performance". A 98c will do you find with a few good upgrades. I'm not sure what you have already, but get an anti-siphoned CO2 tank... which you can do yourself. Getting a sring kit or screwing around with the springs of the 98 will change the performance a lot as well. I have an R/T and it hasn't done me justice. It adds weight and tends to really waste gas when you let the gun open up. If you want to spend the money, an upper end HPA tank will give you all the shots you need. Just keep it simple. Electronic markers aren't weather proof, so weather will limit you. Paintball's about having fun first. Save your money for the field.
Are you **edited**ing serious!!! A shocker can shoot up to 25+ bps stock!!! A 98 can shoot 13!!! That is not even worth a battle. Even if you hopped up a 98 and hopped up shocker it is still way better. A hopped up 98 can shoot 22+ and a hopped up shocker can shoot 30+. You can't really beat that with a tippmann. Don't get me wrong, tippmann's are great and durable guns. I have one, an A-5, but you just can't compare with a high end Smart Parts like the shocker or nerve. |
Posted By: Mr. Spiffy
Date Posted: 07 October 2005 at 12:53am
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I wasn't talking about raw stats. Anyone knows that electro-guns will do the trick every time if all you want is the numbers. But, if you want to play, and your not closing your eyes and letting lose everywhere, it might just be better for him to stick with what he has. At the end of the day, you still have to PLAY the game... That has nothing to do, in my opinion, with bps or operating pressure or the hopper you've got on top of the feed.
For instance, the best game of paintball I ever played was with a 3-4 (maybe 5) year-old tippmann 98c I rented from the field that we were playing in. I got more outs with that thing than I did with my own gun before. And I realized that I was doing better and playing better because the gun had crappy range. Anything beyond 30-40 ft. was anybody's guess with the gun. It forced me to play up front and stay close to the action and it made for some pretty intensing playing action. I come from the philosophy that 13 bps will do as much go for a good player as will the 25 bps of another gun. Once you're past 10 bps, who cares? It's a lot of paint!!! What I'm saying here is that technology really doesn't do as much as the industry wants you to believe. I guess that can be said for a lot of things we buy in life, but paintball's no exception. If you're waiting for 25 bps to kick in and expect to sit behind a tree or charge with full spray, you might find you're hitting the out box faster than you had hoped. ------------- Missing: 2nd star and 960+ posts to my name. -Another victim of the system. |
Posted By: A-5_massacre
Date Posted: 07 October 2005 at 1:05am
| In the end the shocker will still beat the 98 any day. In woodsball or speedball(definitely). There is no competition. Also if you have a crappy gun you are still at a disadvantage. This is how it is, as you get into paintball you start out with a crappy gun but one that fits your skill level. As you progress and get better at snap shooting and all that **edited** you need to progress your gun and gear as well. If you are skillful enough to play with a shocker and shoot 22 bps on semi, what good is it going to do if you pick to play with a 98 custom or some thing along those lines. That is just stupid. How do you think dynasty and PBX factory got where they are today. They progressed their skill and gear. You dont see them playing with low end guns on the field they play with the very best becasue the are very good at what they do and their gear has proven that also.It doesn't matter what you play(serious competition or recball) you should still always keep your skill and gear up-to-date with each other. |
Posted By: Mr. Spiffy
Date Posted: 07 October 2005 at 8:56pm
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Does that mean spending 100s or 1000s of dollars?? You can do plenty of things on a much lighter budget. Tippman Effect seems to do all right with "low-end" guns. I agree, if you know how to use what you have, then you'll do better on the field. But, that can be applied to any gun. If you know how to use it, you can take on anyone with any gun. I really don't see the difference that you do.
I say give me proof that an expert player who has good knowledge of the "classes" of paintball guns to try and use different markers in more or less the same situations to see what happens. If someone can show me that people playing their best with both kinds of guns actually produces different results, I'll change my mind. ------------- Missing: 2nd star and 960+ posts to my name. -Another victim of the system. |
Posted By: ANARCHY_SCOUT
Date Posted: 09 October 2005 at 12:59am
What you said all through this post and previous is totaly true i could be some one thats using a shocker with my 98 or even a pump gun. And what A5massacre is sying about 23 stock all your doing is replacing skill/accuracy with so much paint its not even fun your just running and shooting. No tactics no skill involved its just moving of the fingers. If the 98 is too heavy for you maybe you need to work out because its only 3.5 pounds stock and dont say o ya theres a hopper and tank to calculate into that well then your just plain weak. I would love to see you play stock class pump those players are nothing but skill they play with limited paint and air. I love the mentality you have of Amount of paint > skill this is what kills paintball people who run on the fieled no idea of team tactics and is just free for all shooting paint every where. ------------- Gamertag: Kataklysm999
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