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Topic: straight flatline barrel WORKS!!!
Posted By: DeTrevni
Subject: straight flatline barrel WORKS!!!
Date Posted: 23 September 2005 at 12:32am

ok, try this on for size. it needs to be long and large bore, so the ball can bounce around and stick the grip glued to the top. the bottom of the barrel needs to be as smooth as scientifically possible, using either teflon, delrin, or even oil. theoretically, the ball will bounce around and grip the top. the ball will continue to move forward but the bottom will move faster than the top, causing backspin. the only problem is it will be a gas guzzler. oh yeah, its best if small bore paint were used. if i get a cheap barrel, ill check it out. DONATIONS ACCEPTED!



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Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 23 September 2005 at 4:20am
Its your idea....create it and come back wit the prove.

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Posted By: Lightningbolt
Date Posted: 23 September 2005 at 7:46am
IMO in order for this to work the ball would have to fit snug in the barrel to insure contact with the top of the barrel but if the fit was tight the ball wouldn't achieve backkspin because of contact with the bottom of the barrel.  You could try it but I don't think it will work.


Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 23 September 2005 at 7:59am
Apex is about the closest you are going to get to a striaght barrel.

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Posted By: Psycho5785
Date Posted: 23 September 2005 at 4:31pm
Part of the principle of the Flatline is that the ball is forced
against the top of the barrel, creating the backspin. I worry that
it would have to be a tight barrel otherwise Lightningbolt's
situation would happen, plus, if any large bore paint was fired
through it, it might cause it to shred. Give it a shot, though.

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Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 23 September 2005 at 7:31pm
i've thought about this idea before....  it would be interesting to see....

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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 23 September 2005 at 8:13pm

cool! im getting encouragement! i dont have a 14"-16", cheap barrel to experiment with, so ill just draw it. give me an hour.



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Posted By: Monk
Date Posted: 23 September 2005 at 8:57pm
Take a barrel, put masking tape on the top, inside the barrel.

Thats an easy way to test if it works.


Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 23 September 2005 at 9:08pm
i just drew my idea, so check it out! rate my inginuity!

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Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 23 September 2005 at 11:56pm
hmmm lets see, I think the ball would come out of the barrel and go curve straight up.

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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 24 September 2005 at 1:46am
well, a lot of things can happen. the only way to be sure is to test it. maybe something with less grip instead of rubber, like masking tape, like suggested earlier.

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Posted By: sporx
Date Posted: 24 September 2005 at 11:27pm
do what Monk said. that test will prove it.

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Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 25 September 2005 at 12:47am
Originally posted by Monk Monk wrote:

Take a barrel, put masking tape on the top, inside the barrel.

Thats an easy way to test if it works.
ZOMG! TH47'5 H0W 7Ho53 GUYZ WH3R3 K1ll1NG M3!!!!!!  lol, but that's actually a pretty good idea.....now u got me wanting to experiment....

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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 25 September 2005 at 8:37pm

i think with teh proper tweaking, it could work. im out of gas, so ill get it filled and test it with that masking tape.



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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 25 September 2005 at 10:31pm
You know, with thick-shell paint, masking tape could actually be a feasible ghetto solution. I might actually have a use for my stock barrel yet. If you try it, let me know how it goes.

For experimentation, try using different tapes with different levels of friction. I think electrical tape would work better- it's more frictious, and will probably grip the ball a lot better.

the trouble, as I see it, would be properly putting the tape inide the barrel- and then removing it if it doesn't work.


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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 25 September 2005 at 11:32pm

well, you can use a dowel to smooth the kinks out of the tape, and if any goo gets stuck in the barrel, nail polish remover and rubbing alcohol will get that right out.



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Posted By: Monk
Date Posted: 26 September 2005 at 8:33am
Amonia solution should take off just about any tape.


Posted By: paintboy123
Date Posted: 26 September 2005 at 7:04pm
i think its a great idea

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Posted By: PB 24/7
Date Posted: 26 September 2005 at 8:48pm
I see what you're trying to say, but I don't think it would work very well.

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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 26 September 2005 at 9:03pm
Originally posted by PB 24/7 PB 24/7 wrote:

I see what you're trying to say, but I don't think it would work very well.
if you tune it right, and it adds any more range over a regular barrel, it would be worth it. it would also be way cheaper than a flatline. unless your a smart parts marketer, than it would cost about 200$!

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Posted By: skarshnik
Date Posted: 27 September 2005 at 12:12pm

 

 



Posted By: SgtPoisonMiller
Date Posted: 27 September 2005 at 10:59pm

wow... I am soooo trying that tape idea on my stock a5 barrel...

run tests and stuff...

I will try:
Masking
Duct
Electrical <-this or masking will probably work
and Scotch

I have a general idea it would really work if done correctly...



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Posted By: sporx
Date Posted: 28 September 2005 at 10:22am
HOORAY FOR THE TAPE IDEA!

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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 28 September 2005 at 6:58pm
if it works, someone let me know. i thought it was pretty cool.

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Posted By: aGUYnamedLARRY
Date Posted: 04 October 2005 at 2:56pm
Take a metal file and rifle the inside of your stock barrel.
I did it to mine and now it's more accurate then a flatline.
WAYYY more.
You shoot it up into the air and you see some crazy spinning on that ball.
I did it to my 98c stock barrel and it's FARRR better then my 14" PMI  and my Flatline system. 

Before I rifled it all the way I just made the top of the barrel really rough with the file and it made the ball jump up about a foot.  It made it shoot an extra 50 feet though. 


Posted By: aGUYnamedLARRY
Date Posted: 04 October 2005 at 10:05pm
About that straight flatline...
I would put the tape in the BACK.  If you put it in the front it's gonna put some crazy back spin on that ball and send it straight up.
if you have it towards the back (not in the way of the bolt)
then you'll get the backspin you need  and keep it from floating up,  see what I'm saying? 


Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 2:37am
i will NEVER rifle a barrel. paintballs are not perfectly symetrical. even if they were, they have that liquid fill that is always going to be moving. if the paintball were to spin in flight, it would become off-balanced and fly off course. if it worked for you, nifty, but i would NEVER do it.

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Posted By: aGUYnamedLARRY
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 2:20pm
Well it was only a standard 8 inch barrel for a 98c,  I never used it so  I thought I might experiment a little.

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Posted By: Teh_Ninja
Date Posted: 14 October 2005 at 4:13am
If you really wana make it get an J&J ceramic and sand down the top half. the bottem is teflon already..


Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 15 October 2005 at 4:38pm
i dont really want to spend 50ish bucks on a J&J only to risk jacking it up. when i get a new barrel, im gonna test the idea out on my crappy werks.

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Posted By: Teh_Ninja
Date Posted: 15 October 2005 at 10:43pm
it costs 30 dollers.

and it has a teflon coating sot he bottem would be smoother while the top would be not as smooth.

its not gona work eitherway, im just saying if you wanted to try use a j&j because there cheap and the teflon thing..


Posted By: FrozenA-5
Date Posted: 16 October 2005 at 7:26pm
why do you want a straight flatline anyways? I see nothing wrong with the "Old" one.  And with your idea your going to slow the ball right down to a "lob" speed posibly. And you will defintly have many ball breaks unless you use thick shell paintballs.


Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 16 October 2005 at 7:42pm

straight flatline=cheaper and easier to make.

it also is easier to clean, can be self cleaning and can be made at home for FREE!

also, the velocity would be the same, not slown down. paintball velocity is always gonna be about 280fps for me.

ill work around ball breaks somehow...



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Posted By: FrozenA-5
Date Posted: 19 October 2005 at 1:27am
But with the top of the ball clreating fraction it is gonna break balls and slow it down. But thats my opinion. If you want to make it, knock yourself out. with thin shell paintballs they will defintly break at the level of friction at like 280FPS. Have fun though


Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 19 October 2005 at 8:12pm
would you use thin shelled paint in a regular flatline? use marballizers or some strong stuff. small caliber too.

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Posted By: aGUYnamedLARRY
Date Posted: 20 October 2005 at 12:52pm
Xball bronze and silver work REALLY well in my flatline.   Silver doesn't like to break long distance though.

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Posted By: Scotchbroth
Date Posted: 22 October 2005 at 8:03am
In theory this should work but a lot of fine tuning would be required to make it any good. It is very unlikely you will get it right first time so you would have to buy more than one barrel making it more expensive than buying a flatline.

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Posted By: Monk
Date Posted: 22 October 2005 at 4:12pm
So, has anyone tried it yet?

I was also thinking about (along with the rough top), putting a straight line of porting on the top as well.


Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 22 October 2005 at 5:15pm
still havent got a barrel i wasnt afraid of messing up. im getting a ceramic, so when i do, ill test it on my crappy werks. till then, the werks is all i got...

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Posted By: sneaky_sniper
Date Posted: 23 October 2005 at 11:27pm

Originally posted by Monk Monk wrote:

Take a barrel, put masking tape on the top, inside the barrel.

Thats an easy way to test if it works.

the problem is it might break paintballs and even it that doesnt break em when paintballs do break for whatever reason or u just needed to clean ur barrel the squeegy would pull the tape out



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Posted By: aGUYnamedLARRY
Date Posted: 26 October 2005 at 1:25pm
I don't think it's gonna break the balls,  I've done  meaner stuff to the inside of a barrel then that. 

I just think it'll have to MUCH spin  and it'll send it straight up.


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Posted By: Beavis
Date Posted: 26 October 2005 at 1:28pm

itz a pish idea get a reel flaty you nobjokys!



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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 26 October 2005 at 8:03pm
Originally posted by Beavis Beavis wrote:

itz a pish idea get a reel flaty you nobjokys!

wtf did you just say? seriously...

maybe i dont have 100 bucks to spend on a flatline. a 50 cent role of electrical or masking is so much cheaper. if you dont like the idea, too bad.



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Posted By: Scotchbroth
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 2:28pm

I think he was saying that the idea is not very good and that you should all purchase tippmann flatline barrel systems you penis jockeys.

i think that it good be good but getting it setup to give the right amount of spin will be difficult.



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Posted By: commie_killer
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 8:21pm
the only way I see it working is to design a barrel from scratch with a flat bottom. The reason for the flat bottom is so you can put needle bearings in it...keeping the flat side as narrow as possible is the key....the top rounded section would have a graphite finish to it to create the backspin.  It may or may not work


Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 10:52pm
i finally ordered a J&J, so when that comes in, im just gonna experiment with different lengths of tape in my werks.

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Posted By: Mr. Heckler
Date Posted: 28 October 2005 at 7:32pm
Good luck. I hope you succeed.

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Posted By: XxTippyballeRxX
Date Posted: 29 October 2005 at 10:53am

Dude, if you have the money to waste on something thats not going to work, be my guest

P.S. ( Ive already tried it with the same exact things you are using.....lol)

Its not going to work i promise you



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Posted By: dmikein
Date Posted: 31 October 2005 at 4:49pm
So you tried this tape thing XX?

I don't see how this could work well. Getting tape inside a barrel to be perfectly straight with no bumps or wrinkles seems impossible. The only way I can think of is to use a thin dowel rod and stretch the tape tight and secure it to the rod at the ends, put it in the barrel and hope it sticks and doesnt wrinkle and then cut the ends of the tape that hangs out off. Good luck, you have more patience than I. This doesnt sound as bad as the guy who suggested putting jb weld at the end of the barrel so the paintball would "ramp up".

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Posted By: kuhndog599
Date Posted: 31 October 2005 at 5:25pm
Originally posted by Scotchbroth Scotchbroth wrote:

I think he was saying that the idea is not very good and that you should all purchase tippmann flatline barrel systems you penis jockeys.

i think that it good be good but getting it setup to give the right amount of spin will be difficult.

lol thats funny. and by the way, it wont work.

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Posted By: skarshnik
Date Posted: 01 November 2005 at 12:08pm
go for it maybe these guys did it wrong. 


Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 01 November 2005 at 4:32pm

In theory its not a bad idea at all.

I know nothing about physics at all, so I couldnt begin to give yoan estimate as to how it'll end up.

Again, in theiry its kinda neat, practice......who knows? Good luck.



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Posted By: sneaky_sniper
Date Posted: 01 November 2005 at 5:09pm
Originally posted by DeTrevni DeTrevni wrote:

Originally posted by Beavis Beavis wrote:

itz a pish idea get a reel flaty you nobjokys!

wtf did you just say? seriously...

maybe i dont have 100 bucks to spend on a flatline. a 50 cent role of electrical or masking is so much cheaper. if you dont like the idea, too bad.

its not that i dont like the idea, its the fact that even if the tape doesnt break it, the tape would SERIOUSLY slow down the ball and this isnt very likly but its possible for the ball to get stuck in the barrel, and like i said before u couldnt squeegy the barrel, the tape would come out, like i said its not that i dont like the idea, i just dont see how it could work



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Posted By: sneaky_sniper
Date Posted: 01 November 2005 at 5:10pm
Originally posted by Beavis Beavis wrote:

itz a pish idea get a reel flaty you nobjokys!

huh?



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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 01 November 2005 at 7:45pm

i am god. quite simply. i got my j&j in today, and immediately tested this idea out. here are the results.

Materials:
-14 in. Tippmann Werks barrel.
-Packaging tape, the kind with the reinforcing threads woven in, to be specific. about 4 in.X 1/2 in. used various sizes, this one had the most consistant results.
-Triad paintballs. size not sure. (cheapo paintballs)

Procedure:
-apply tape to inside top of barrel, in the front (buisness end). make sure its smooth.
-that's it. simple and CHEAP.

Results:
-SUCCESS!!! there were flaws though. paint actually survived for the most part, but if the edges popped up on the tape, it would catch the ball and pop it. rare though. another downside was sometimes it would shoot any which way, but in part a blame the paint. overall, i did notice a distance increase over the j&j that i compared it to (also 14 in.) I R00L!!!



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Posted By: Monk
Date Posted: 01 November 2005 at 11:27pm
Originally posted by DeTrevni DeTrevni wrote:

i did notice a distance increase over the j&j that i compared it to (also 14 in.) I R00L!!!



I need a measured distance before I go taping up my barrel.

Im assuming maybe 10 feet.


Posted By: aGUYnamedLARRY
Date Posted: 02 November 2005 at 12:17am
Are you shooting the correct fps?




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Posted By: skarshnik
Date Posted: 02 November 2005 at 1:48pm
Results...

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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 02 November 2005 at 3:35pm
Please post some more 'scientific' results- ranges, groupings, etc. It's easier to see the effectiveness if we've got two sets of figures to compare.

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Posted By: Mr. Heckler
Date Posted: 02 November 2005 at 4:00pm

Originally posted by brihard brihard wrote:

Please post some more 'scientific' results- ranges, groupings, etc. It's easier to see the effectiveness if we've got two sets of figures to compare.

Indeed. Get all the stuff he said. BTW Congrats.



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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 02 November 2005 at 4:20pm

actually, i was going to, but i live in kind of a "condensed" neighborhood, so i couldnt get accurate readings of range. also, i ran out of air.

anyway, my grandparents have 16 acres of land, and we go there like every weekend, so when we make our next visit, i promise more accurate results, including stats for the J&J compared to the "straightline barrel." just be patient.



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Posted By: kuhndog599
Date Posted: 02 November 2005 at 5:59pm

I WANT IT NOW.

 



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Posted By: skarshnik
Date Posted: 03 November 2005 at 4:01pm
copyright...

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Posted By: Mr. Heckler
Date Posted: 03 November 2005 at 5:38pm

^^

No kidding. If it works as well as you suggested, get a patent or copyright or sumthing.



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Posted By: ninety8freak
Date Posted: 04 November 2005 at 1:41pm
wow, thats not a bad idea....patent it before smart parts takes it.


Posted By: Monk
Date Posted: 04 November 2005 at 3:20pm
It takes years to patent something.

And if its that easy for someone to do it, why would they buy it.


Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 05 November 2005 at 9:07pm

im not in it for the profit. i just wanted to come out with an actual functioning and user friendly idea for all the forumers. im just in it for the respect!

anyway, i havent been able to test it, yet, but i will post stats when i get the chance. at least i got something to work with.



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Posted By: aGUYnamedLARRY
Date Posted: 06 November 2005 at 9:20pm
I still think it's going to float up to much...

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Posted By: skarshnik
Date Posted: 07 November 2005 at 1:53pm
monk, im lazy, i would buy it.

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Posted By: sneaky_sniper
Date Posted: 07 November 2005 at 9:24pm

i still say when u try to squeegy its gunna mess it all up

and if u break a ball or somthen the oil will mess it up too



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Posted By: kuhndog599
Date Posted: 08 November 2005 at 8:18am
come on. proof now.

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Posted By: skarshnik
Date Posted: 08 November 2005 at 11:48am
he said he'll get to it.

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Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 08 November 2005 at 4:01pm
hah... to the people suggesting a patent... i don't think it's going to work very well if all you have for a patent is "putting tap in a paintball barrel."

anyway... it might work... but probably not very well... but good luck anyway


Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 08 November 2005 at 6:58pm
its a starting point and i havent worked out all the glitches. i still havent been to my grandma's house, or any large amounts of land, but when i do, im gonna test it with different tape, different lengths and different widths. when i find the perfect combo, im going to post some pics and steps. plus, if you squeegee it out, just put some more tape in. duh.

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Posted By: Syrus.S.A
Date Posted: 09 November 2005 at 1:50pm

Hello, all i want to add to your conversation on the "worst idea of the year" is that has anyone ever wondered way you pay so much for a Flatline? Maybe cause it took a genius years of research and money to come up with a great product. He must have not thought of STICKY TAPE and i $ 2 dollar barrel!!! But hey whatever rocks your boat! Next we can try using a balloon as a HPA tank, it just might work, what do ya think guys!!

 

 



Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 09 November 2005 at 3:12pm
Hey numbnuts, he already tried it and it wasn't breaking balls or anything. He just hasn't had a chace to get more scientific results, like exact ranges or groupings. Just ebcause a flatline is expensive, doesn't mean there's an affordable alternative. If it works, it works.

Rather than slamming a guy for actually coming up with an idea, trying it, finding that it works, then trying to make it even better, how about you either add something constructive or go find another forum to troll?


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Posted By: Devil2
Date Posted: 09 November 2005 at 4:49pm
Originally posted by Syrus.S.A Syrus.S.A wrote:

Hello, all i want to add to your conversation on the "worst idea of the year" is that has anyone ever wondered way you pay so much for a Flatline? Maybe cause it took a genius years of research and money to come up with a great product. He must have not thought of STICKY TAPE and i $ 2 dollar barrel!!! But hey whatever rocks your boat! Next we can try using a balloon as a HPA tank, it just might work, what do ya think guys!!





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Why did you bother?
It's an idea. Atleast its original, and noone else has ever posted about it. And I don't see you coming up with any ideas. Atleast this one is feasible.
And this is FAR from the "worst idea of the year".
Now go get back on your ship and sail back to Africa.

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Posted By: Mr. Heckler
Date Posted: 09 November 2005 at 5:10pm

^^^

Harsh....

But deserved.



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Posted By: sneaky_sniper
Date Posted: 09 November 2005 at 7:03pm

Originally posted by DeTrevni DeTrevni wrote:

plus, if you squeegee it out, just put some more tape in. duh.

now im just speaken from personal opinion, but i dont really wanna sit around sticken tape in my barrel when i could be playing paintball, i personaly squeegy after every game, i know most people dont do it that much, but they do it several times in the day, and i wouldnt wanna re-apply it 3 times in 1 day



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Posted By: Devil2
Date Posted: 09 November 2005 at 7:21pm
Then buy a Flatline??
He is just trying to find an affordable alternative for people that don't want to dish out 100 bucks for a barrel.
But if you are too lazy to reapply 2 cents worth of tape 3 times a day, then stop being cheap and get a Flatline. He doesn't have all of the answers...

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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 09 November 2005 at 8:02pm

oh, you guys . i feel loved!

except for this guy:

Originally posted by Syrus.S.A Syrus.S.A wrote:

Hello, all i want to add to your conversation on the "worst idea of the year" is that has anyone ever wondered way you pay so much for a Flatline? Maybe cause it took a genius years of research and money to come up with a great product. He must have not thought of STICKY TAPE and i $ 2 dollar barrel!!! But hey whatever rocks your boat! Next we can try using a balloon as a HPA tank, it just might work, what do ya think guys!!

 

 

hello, all i want to add is "biggest n00b of the year." Has anyone wondered why your mom hasnt killed you yet? Maybe you need to really try to stop making people hate you. you must not have thought. at all. but hey, whatever rocks your boat! Next, we can try to pee on an electric fence! it just might work, what do ya think guys!!

 

god that was fun!



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Posted By: the_blade
Date Posted: 09 November 2005 at 11:27pm
not to burst your bubble but or anything.....But this has been done before lmao about three years ago I think it was posted on m98c.com (I think that was the name it had that pimpen cartoon girl with the m98c in her hand) and on another one they make an attachment out of radiator hosing to your barrel that is curved and also gives you the flatline effect if done right.

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Posted By: Syrus.S.A
Date Posted: 10 November 2005 at 2:16am
Hello again, it's not the idea that matters, it is how feesable the idea is. Asking an opponent to hold on while i change "tapes" is not on! But i sincerely apologise DeTrevni and next time i promise to be more constructive guys. Your "idea" is okay and i hope you come right with it, personally i'll stick with my flatline.


Posted By: shadow ace
Date Posted: 10 November 2005 at 5:04pm
im gonna try that with my stock 98c barrel

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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 10 November 2005 at 5:32pm

dang. its been done before? oh well, i dont think its been done here and as long it helps some people, than im happy.

Syrus: apology accepted. just please: dont be a jerk. you make people want to be jerks back. not cool. oh, i shot about a hopper full before my air ran out and the tape stuck fine. just get good tape.



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Posted By: aGUYnamedLARRY
Date Posted: 10 November 2005 at 7:45pm
mr.syrus guy,  I don't think the person  who thought up that flatline went through years of design and hard work.
He probably worked on it for about a month.


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Posted By: JustLooking
Date Posted: 13 November 2005 at 6:04pm
Heyy i did this the day after i got my flatline for my 98c last year and i still have the dye excel barrel i tried this on haha. Ok what u do is put 3 inches of TEFLON TAPE at the beginning of any barrel MAKE SURE AFTER U SCREW IN UR BARREL THE TAPE IS STILL ON TOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   Put some kind of glur(rubber cement or super glue...   if you feel lucky) on the back of the tape. BECAUSE the ball has another 10-13 inches of barrel to go it will stable and shoot in a 1.8 foot RADIUS gathering at 75 feet(roughly) and will have a flatter trajectory and shoot 40-80 feet further then a regular barrel. Also since TEFLON TAPE is soft(or i think thats the reason...) I didnt brake any balls. Have a nice experiment MY BARREL WAS 16 INCHES LONG!

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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 14 November 2005 at 4:52pm
well see! i got someone to get at least one successfull test run. everyone else get out there and test this out! post vids and pics preferably.

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Posted By: dovehunter9
Date Posted: 15 November 2005 at 9:44pm
How hard wuld it be to make a barrel like this in a metal shop, just wondering because that is a way to keep from putting on tape three times a day. I'm going to try out the tape thing w/ my stock barrel and see what happens. I'd rather take five minutes to put on some tape than pay $100 bucks. Why would you squeegie it so much anyway, the idea is to use a crappy barrel you don't care about anyway, just put the tape on once, and if a ball busts, squeegie it out and keep shooting without tape the rest of the day.

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Posted By: sneaky_sniper
Date Posted: 15 November 2005 at 10:27pm

ummm i sqeegie that much cuz.....

i dunno i just like to squeegy i guess



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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 15 November 2005 at 10:39pm
Originally posted by sneaky_sniper sneaky_sniper wrote:

ummm i sqeegie that much cuz.....

i dunno i just like to squeegy i guess





You should probably talk to someone about that.


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Posted By: raystmr
Date Posted: 16 November 2005 at 3:22am
Looks like it might work but to have the whole top part of the barrel covered with latex or rubber might cause way too much backspin. Too much backspin will make too much lift. I think from the physics of it you have a good plan. Good luck I can't remember right now but I'll post when I remember where I found the article on the physics and test data of how much backspin (speed of backspin) effects flight. If you get it to work it would be nice to try out.


Posted By: ANARCHY_SCOUT
Date Posted: 17 November 2005 at 5:28pm
Originally posted by Styro Folme Styro Folme wrote:

i've thought about this idea before....  it would be interesting to see....

quite so.


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Posted By: kuhndog599
Date Posted: 17 November 2005 at 7:07pm
Originally posted by DeTrevni DeTrevni wrote:

well see! i got someone to get at least one successfull test run. everyone else get out there and test this out! post vids and pics preferably.
why dont you get out there and test it out and post pics and vids.

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Posted By: ninety8freak
Date Posted: 19 November 2005 at 9:39pm
Originally posted by kuhndog599 kuhndog599 wrote:

Originally posted by DeTrevni DeTrevni wrote:

well see! i got someone to get at least one successfull test run. everyone else get out there and test this out! post vids and pics preferably.
why dont you get out there and test it out and post pics and vids.
 He said he lives in a condensed area and is waiting to go to his relatives house to shoot and test it out. 


Posted By: kuhndog599
Date Posted: 19 November 2005 at 11:44pm
Originally posted by ninety8freak ninety8freak wrote:

Originally posted by kuhndog599 kuhndog599 wrote:

Originally posted by DeTrevni DeTrevni wrote:

well see! i got someone to get at least one successfull test run. everyone else get out there and test this out! post vids and pics preferably.
why dont you get out there and test it out and post pics and vids.
 He said he lives in a condensed area and is waiting to go to his relatives house to shoot and test it out. 
still shouldnt take that long. unless hes five years old.

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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 20 November 2005 at 11:52am
Originally posted by kuhndog599 kuhndog599 wrote:

Originally posted by ninety8freak ninety8freak wrote:

Originally posted by kuhndog599 kuhndog599 wrote:

Originally posted by DeTrevni DeTrevni wrote:

well see! i got someone to get at least one successfull test run. everyone else get out there and test this out! post vids and pics preferably.
why dont you get out there and test it out and post pics and vids.
 He said he lives in a condensed area and is waiting to go to his relatives house to shoot and test it out. 
still shouldnt take that long. unless hes five years old.
i could take pics, but i the only video camera i have is literally from the mid 80's. also, i got air in hopes of going to my relatives house this thanksgiving, but that backfired. they are coming over here. so im sadly still waiting. i would have gone last weekend, but i went on a Scout mountain bike campout. if it aint one thing its another. i promise ill get the specs when i can. oh, btw, im 16...

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Posted By: kuhndog599
Date Posted: 23 November 2005 at 2:03pm
then you should buy a new camera.

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operator barrel
progressive barrel
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Posted By: UV Halo
Date Posted: 23 November 2005 at 2:51pm
I'm waiting for anyone to post a vid of this working.  I got one issue with why I think it wouldn't work:
  The diameters of paintball barrels vary within 1/100th of an inch.  My Rufus Dawg sizer covers paint between .684 and .694, and I've never found a paint outside that range.  Further, even my old barrels (made when Big Bore was a popular marketing term for compatbility with swollen paintballs common in california) don't fall outside this range.  That being said, you need to use a tape (adhesive backed) that has a thickness measured in thousandths of an inch.  Teflon tape (I can't find my roll) may be thin enough but, then you gotta use an adhesive which would add to the overall thickness.  Let's not even get into the string/fiber-reinforced tapes.
  With all that being said, you're more likely to overcompress the ball and cause a break that way. I mean just try shooting .692-.694 paint in a .684 barrel and see what happens.

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Posted By: shadow ace
Date Posted: 23 November 2005 at 8:23pm
wow ill get video up soon

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superfly bolt
mini drop
revvy w/xboard
rear cocking
trigger mods






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