yeah, you'll find that your flatline can be a **edited** sometimes. stick with another barrel.

^^You guys give up WAYYY to easily. First, you going to want to make sure you velocity isn't to high. It should be at like 265 or so. Then you're going to want to make sure you're using good paint. Small bore works best in the Flatline. And also make sure it is installed correctly.

Decay67 wrote: ok i don;t know wat bore is and my velocity ain't that high it is mprobaly bad paint but i can't afford that nice stuff

the one possible flaw of the flatline is the fact that is picky with paint although zap and powerball go through fine and they are cheapish.

Decay67 wrote: ok i got a problem with my flatline i have a custom 98 too and everytime i play paintball like all the bullets i shoot just come out broken. They keep breaking in my barrell so i don't wat is going on and i want it to stop so cna someone help me

Is the barrel seated fully to the bottom of the adapter? Next, change paint. I am not saying get high grade expensive paint. I am saying that the paint you are using may be overly fragile for your set up. Some of the most expensive paint actually breaks too easily for Tippmanns. Then check the forward bolt...check the "O" ring and the leading edge for damage or burrs. Replace either/both if they are suspicious.

My flatline started breaking paint. New bolt solved the problem...though I could see little wrong with the bolt that was already in the marker.

We picked up some Diablo Heat recently that is way too fragile. We have been using Heat for 8-9 months and never had this problem. This latest batch breaks three out of five balls when dropped from 5 feet onto an concret floor. The previous batch broke 2 out of 10 when dropped from the same height. Sometimes it's just the batch lot of paint. Paint is the easiest place to start. Pick a small diameter paint...not an expensive paint.

A-5_massacre wrote: DON'T GET THE FLATLINE!!!!!!!!!!!!! Get another after market barrel like the All American, Freak, Stiffi, or Sceptor Barrel. The flatline is slow and not as accurate as it says.

Slow? What are you talking about?

hey one of my friends had a problem with his it was to smooth (yes on the flatline its a problem.) the balls would jump up and hit the top of the barrel, and break. the flatlines needs to be a little rough to give the balls back spin.

EDIT- well actually i just gave you the problem (possibly) and not a remedy call tippmann and tell them you are having problems with your flatline they will probably take a look at it.

A-5_massacre wrote: DON'T GET THE FLATLINE!!!!!!!!!!!!! Get another after market barrel like the All American, Freak, Stiffi, or Sceptor Barrel. The flatline is slow and not as accurate as it says.

Slow? Please explain

Are you sure these are barrel breaks?  Do you have this problem when playing with a straight barrel?

What kind of hopper do you have?

A-5_massacre wrote: I was facing a flatline and it didnt prove itself what so ever!!! I have also used one and my freak with all american front would rock that thing. It works well maybe if your all about playing undetected but that is still very hard to do.

A-5,

Your experience seems odd. Certainly there is little likelihood that one could remain undeteced with a Flatline since it is one of the loudest barrels out there. With proper installation and care to use the correct size paint, along with imediately cleaning of any broken paint, a Flatline is the best long range barrel out there. (until the Apex came along).

Still, what did you mean when you said, in the previous post, that the Flatline is slow?

A-5_massacre wrote: Have you played against an experienced player with one? Do you have one? I have had one and I babied that barrel. After every game I would spend atleast 10 minutes cleaning it and making sure it was in tip top shape for the next game. It was still slow. It was also kind of accurate. But it can't compare to my 14" Freak back with All American front or my 20" Progressive Barrel. All I am saying is get a better after market barrel. Maybe you guys are just worried about it being accurate and hope to tag some one with one shot. In that case that is a great barrel. But if you are just trying to get them out, no matter what, then I would strongly recommend another after market barrel. In my opinion you should go with an All American, Freak, Sceptor, or possibly even a Dye Boomstick. Also, you cant fire very fast with a flatline or you will chop balls like crazy.

Slow? So you couldn't get the velocity up to 270 fps at the muzzle? Firing fast? I have three Flatlines.(well, two now since I sold one to buy the Apex) They have been set up with both the stock 98C firing system and used on both markers set up with E-Bolts. The only "broken ball" problem we have had was with a couple of cases of really fragile paint. Paint that was so bad that the seller exchanged it.

"Firing fast" with any barrel requires a little bit better hopper. We both have Halo Bs installed. With the E-Bolt and a walkable double trigger we have had no problem with All Stars, Marballizer and Heat. We had some other minor breakage problem that we traced to the forward bolt. We changed that and the problem was resolved.

Chop problems are solved with a faster feeding hopper. Barrel breaks are usually caused by bolt problems, barrel assembly problems and sometimes a broken ball will cause every successive shot to break. Oversize paint will break excessively also.

My son and I using Flatlines for most of a year, just haven't had the problems you speak of.

As for accuracy: With small paint I have found the Flatline to be much more accurate that the stock barrel...and equally accurate to virtually any other barrel out to about 150 ft. As the ball slows (as does the ball shot from any barrel) the back spin begins to take over to hold the ball up. As the ball continues past the distance obtainable by all other barrels it also continues to slow and becomes more susceptible to wind currents. So accuracy at the really longs distances drops off due to wind...as does even with a firearm.

But to me all of this is moot. I now have a an Apex barrel which is capable of all things that the Flatline would do...plus shoot around corners (yes, it really does).

I have to say again that the Flatline is an awesome barrel. But I also have to say that, so far, the Apex is superior.

My son uses what is commonly called a "sniper barrel". It is a 17 inch Stone Cold II that has made more one shot kills than both Flatlines combined. But it won't reach 200 ft. With the Flatline at 200 ft you may require 2 or 3 shots to make that kill. But with the non-Flatline barrels you wouldn't even get the opportunity to try.

A-5_massacre wrote: I plainly just don't like them so don't give me **edited**.

A-5,

I wasn't giving you a deleted expletive or anything else. I thought we were having a discussion about the qualities and performance of the Flatline barrel. Until now I was unaware that I was dealing with your emotion rather than a cogent intellect. In the future I will avoid arousing your emotion and just allow you to make unenlightening inane statements...all by yourself.