School = racist and stupid *FIXED*
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Topic: School = racist and stupid *FIXED*
Posted By: WGP guy2
Subject: School = racist and stupid *FIXED*
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 5:33pm
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So today I wore this shirt my uncle got me (veteran). On the
front it said "7.62 design" and on the back it said "671 Grains of
Diplomacy" and it had a military sniper laying in a ghillie on the
back. So I walk out of first period today, and an administrator
sees it. I am forced to put another shirt on (luckily I had one
with me). Supposedly it was a "violent" shirt, even though it is
depicting something from teh military. So what pisses me off even
more is I see the same administrator later in teh day carrying on a
normal conversation with a black kid later that day. His shirt
had a picture of an MP5K on it and it said "Welcome to the Hood".
She didn't even mention it. It just really pissed me off, had to vent. My shirt:  |
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Posted By: VisionIMP
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 5:36pm
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so put it back on. Stand up for youself if you think its unfair. ------------- 
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 5:36pm
| I'm not sure how to decide who's stupid, you for freaking out about a simple request, or the woman for not noticing both. |
Posted By: rossy11223
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 5:37pm
| That sucks. I hate when stuff like that happens. |
Posted By: bluemunky42
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 5:37pm
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My art teacher is really sexist, I think she's a lesbian. ------------- 
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Posted By: WGP guy2
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 5:39pm
Trust me, I didn't freak out. I'm not one to protest authority over such small things. I was just irritated at teh racism. |
choopie911 wrote:Posted By: Hairball!!!
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 5:41pm
| Maybe she was talking to the other kid about his shirt? |
Posted By: WGP guy2
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 5:47pm
No, I was listening. It was just a normal conversation that anybody would have. Even if she was and I missed it, she didn't do anything about it. |
Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 5:58pm
why do say racism? yes, it could be racism. but maybe she thought his shirt was ok (for whatever reason), maybe she thinks he is hot, maybe she just doesn't like you. maybe it's a political thing. or, most likely, she just slipped - consistently enforcing rules is really hard. ------------- [IMG]http://i38.tinypic.com/aag8s8.jpg"> |
Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 5:59pm
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Who cares? It's over with, and there's nothing you can do about it. Move on with your life.
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Posted By: Boss_DJ
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 6:00pm
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Posted By: WGP guy2
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 6:04pm
I don't really think it was. But hey if it was the other way around, that kid would have said it was racism, so why can't I? |
Posted By: Cheetos3254
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 6:05pm
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Posted By: Boss_DJ
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 6:06pm
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Posted By: youm0nt
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 6:06pm
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Posted By: bluemunky42
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 6:07pm
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Posted By: paintbusta
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 6:16pm
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uh oh i see another columbine coming on ------------- 
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Posted By: oreomann33
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 6:19pm
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Maybe that shirt just sucks.
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Posted By: WGP guy2
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 6:21pm
Thats not the exact one, closest I could find. Columbine? Nah, I'm perfectly happy without a criminal record. Maybe by the "gangstas" though. |
Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 6:32pm
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The shirt is really lame. Wanna-be ZOMG ARMY SEAL COMMANDOS FTW wear shirts like that. Its a shirt with a guy with a gun on it. It shouldnt be worn at school. End of story. ------------- 
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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 6:54pm
------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: >><<
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 7:02pm
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My school could care less what you wear this black guys walking around with "bling" that is gun so my school is like where whatver ------------- 
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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 7:23pm
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She didnt say anything because somebody would throw up the racist card. ------------- 
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Posted By: pb125
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 7:23pm
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If you say "teh" one more time I'm going to smack you.
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Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 7:26pm
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Why do you say that the other kid would have said it was racism? What is your basis for that statement? And why don't you "really think it was"?
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Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 7:45pm
BEcause the kid was black, and all black people cry racism whena figure of authority confronts them, obviously. I saw this one shirt with the SUC on the front and Trae holding two
sawnoff shotguns and Z-ro with a pistol. It was a good shirt, and when
I said he had a good taste in music he was like "white boy say wha?!?!"
It was rofl worthy. ------------- 
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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 7:48pm
Who the hell is that? -------------
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Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 8:00pm
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You ever heard of chamillion, or paul wall, and (to a much, much lesser
extent) slim thug lil flip and mike jones? Trae and Z-ro pioneered the
music they did/do. They were so underground their mixtapes were
actually tapes. One of them, I think trae, is in Paul Wall's song
sittin sideways.
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Posted By: bluemunky42
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 8:03pm
Ha, it sounds rofl worthy. -------------
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Posted By: WGP guy2
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 8:03pm
Exactly. I'm stereotyping the majority of what I see on a daily basis. From my past observations that is exactly what would have most likely happened. That comes from my personal observations, it may not represent the majority of the population. |
Posted By: mbro
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 8:22pm
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Hmmm you'll pretty much have no luck fighting this if you even have the balls enough to try since I doubt you'd be able to even put up a good and intelligent argument agains them making you change. ------------- 
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos. |
Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 8:28pm
ZOMG teh racizm!! -------------
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Posted By: Boss_DJ
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 8:38pm
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Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 8:56pm
Basicly I said rage against the machine sucks hardcore.
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 9:01pm
Whoa whoa whoa....and your school is the racist one? |
Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 9:02pm
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So, your basis and reason for crying "racism" is that YOU are a racist? That doesn't make much sense. Like you get to be racist but nobody else does? ------------- [IMG]http://i38.tinypic.com/aag8s8.jpg"> |
Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 9:03pm
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I think that statement belonged to usafpilot, who apparently has crappy quoting skillz. ------------- [IMG]http://i38.tinypic.com/aag8s8.jpg"> |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 9:09pm
| Allright, I dont want to mock the wrong person. Thanks for catching that. |
Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 9:27pm
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It was said by me, and I was simply pointing out in my own special way that he was being racist.
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Posted By: glazener24
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 9:44pm
| WGP is right, if a white guy did something wrong it's automatically racist. and don't say i'm a racist, half my freinds are black. |
Posted By: lester98c
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 9:58pm
| cool shirt, i couldnt even get in trouble for that in my school since we have a uniform thing to prevent stuff like that. my school isnt as much rasist as biased if a poorer kid comes to school in the wrong shade of a color on a shirt or a short skirt they get sent home,while if a weltier kid comes whering the same thing they dont get bothered |
Posted By: Boss_DJ
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 10:11pm
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 10:29pm
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Translation: I just said something totally racist, but I have black friends, therefore I can't possibly be racist and I can say whatever I want. gg |
Posted By: WGP guy2
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 10:37pm
No. From his experience/observations, if a black person is told to do something by a white person, they cry racism. Same happens where I live. If its a white guy trying to make a black guy do something, then the black people say its racism. |
Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 10:38pm
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Right. ALL African Americans cry racisim. All the time. Its a proven fact.
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 10:40pm
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From dictionary.com: rac·ism https://secure.reference.com/premium/login.html?rd=2&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdictionary.reference.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dracist"> 2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.
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jPosted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 10:41pm
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Translation: No, it's not racist, because (racist statement) |
Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 10:46pm
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WGP, a respectable man knows when he's wrong.
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Posted By: TruePaintballer
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 10:49pm
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Um, last time I checked the Military was violent... ------------- http://www.freewebs.com/outlawspaintball/index.htm - Outlaws *Sponsors* http://www.abrika.ca - Abrika |
Posted By: glazener24
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 10:50pm
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besides the fact that he's not wrong. |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 10:54pm
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How is he not wrong? WGP and you (glazener) both posted gross generalizations based on race (=racism), while calling other people racist. Pretty straight-forward. At least WGP didn't try to cover it up with the old "I'm not racist because I have black friends". |
Posted By: paintbusta
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 10:59pm
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im racist against indians blacks whites hispanics and asians how bout that -------------
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Posted By: glazener24
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 10:59pm
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you can call me a racist all you want, all i'm saying is a white guy can say something and be called racist, and then a black guy could say the same thing and no one would think twice about it. |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 11:06pm
You are right - I read your initial post too fast. Taken in a vacuum, this statement is IMO not necessarily racist, but simply a statement about current societal values. My bad and my apologies. In your original post, however, it was the "WGP is right" part that threw me off, because some of the things WGP said were quite racist, and I may have been confused about which of his posts you were referring to. |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 11:06pm
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You should have said no. Its not violent, as far as she knows he is shooting at a target or whatever. Stand up for yourself. Its highschool, what are they going to do? Throw you in jail? You have been conditioned to be submisive all through public school, stand up for yourself. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors"> 
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 11:08pm
| ^^^^^^^ What he said. |
Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 11:19pm
| so where can i find the shirt the black kid was wearing... i really want it. |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 11:21pm
| You can't wear it because you are white - that would be racist. |
Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 11:23pm
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But that would be reverse racisim. That is, if reverse racisim actually existed... -------------
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Posted By: Apotheosis
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 11:25pm
Right. And get suspended. It is soooo worth it. |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 11:26pm
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In a heartbeat. |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 11:27pm
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Yay for getting cought up on coloquialisms!
Reverse racism is when a minority does stuff to the majority. Its reversed because the rolls are reversed, because normaly, the majority like to gang up on the minority. When i use to the term minority and majority, im being a little deceptive, it has nothing to do with numbers, it has more to do with people that are different from a certain type. For instance, a striped population wont like the polka dotted people, they will thing the polka dotted people are dumb, slow and lazy ect ect. Their dots make it so they cant learn as quick as the stripped population... blah blkah blah. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 11:29pm
| *checks the oil on DBib's sarcasm-o-meter* |
Posted By: Apotheosis
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 11:29pm
| Racism is racism. Reversed, foreward or sideways, it is all just racism. |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 11:31pm
I KNOW I KNOW!! HEHEHEHEHE!.... Carry on.. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: SuperXero
Date Posted: 11 October 2005 at 12:14am
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I'll be the first one to say, I'm incredibly racist - that's not the argument.
2 words about your situation; affirmative action. Society feels so bad for the stint of slavery, that rather than try to move on, they force the white majority to lay down for the blacks to walk all over them. This isn't something that should be highly contraversial, this is something everyone should have observed by now. A white guy gets high, leads cops on a high speed chase through residential areas, and then attacks the officers, leading to that man being beaten the hell down, and the world keeps spinning. A black man on the other hand, wow, what racist police officers! Let's sue the gov't, the police force, the schools for promoting this racism, lets jail the officers, charge em with whatever we can. Because of this, everyone has to be so incredibly careful on how they approach minorities. If she had confronted the kid about his shirt, and he had pursued the matter, there would be huge debates and public outcries about how "He was raised in poverty, that makes it ok!!! Violence is all he knows in his life, so we must allow him to express it!". In other words, if he was determined to do so, he could have cost her her job, and she knows that. It's happened before (not this exact situation, to my knowledge at least). ------------- Tenacious and Versatile |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 11 October 2005 at 12:44am
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Or not. These things get resolved all the time without incident. Sometimes =/= Always |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 11 October 2005 at 12:47am
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Exactly, more often than not, the kid screams racism and the parents themselves smack him in the head and call him an idiot.
People can scream racism all they want, but if there is no, like clark says, beef to it, rarely will anything happen. I just thought of something. If you want someone to take you seriously, why in the world would you start out by telling everyone you are racist. That kind of like saying. *Edit* "Just a minute everyone! I have something i need to say! Wait, hold on, let me get my KKK outfit on!" ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 11 October 2005 at 1:25am
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I had the most excellent thought while my professor rambled on in class tonight. I have a theory of why some men like baggy jeans and others dont like them or see a need for them. I happen to be a fan of baggy jeans unless I am out on the powl and like to excentuate certain features. ------------- 
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Posted By: TK421
Date Posted: 11 October 2005 at 1:28am
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wuts ur theory ------------- I'll be at my post soon - chill. |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 11 October 2005 at 1:45am
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My theory is some men actually need the extra room in the baggy jeans. -------------
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Posted By: PlentifulBalls
Date Posted: 11 October 2005 at 7:06am
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If you ever have to say "I'm not racist but..." or "I'm not racist I
have black friends..." at the begining of a sentence, you are a racist. ------------- 
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Posted By: SuperXero
Date Posted: 11 October 2005 at 7:46am
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^ Which is why I started my post the way I did, no need to dance around the subject.
And Clark, I said "If the kid was determined to do so", trying to emphasize that it wont always happen, but it has happened enough that many people are wary of it. Even if his parents told him he was an idiot and smacked him, he might not have stopped there. There's always a sympathetic ear, and in these situations, there's always a thousand protesters ready for a minor discrepancy. ------------- Tenacious and Versatile |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 11 October 2005 at 10:31am
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See, Xero, that's simply false. As a matter of FACT, thousands of lawsuits for race discrimination in employment and public life get tossed from court or defeated in court every year. Complaints are raised and overruled all the time. You may of course believe whatever you like, but as a simple matter of FACT, to claim that a charge of racism always (or even most of the time) leads to somebody getting fired, or paying money, is simply FALSE. |
Posted By: snipercow
Date Posted: 11 October 2005 at 11:11am
 racism isnt real, just a pre tense thought of your imagination get over it------------- Some say snipers dont exist. But when your 3 feet away from a snipers barrel your opinion changes.];) |
Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 11 October 2005 at 11:20am
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Care to explain? -------------
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Posted By: ANARCHY_SCOUT
Date Posted: 11 October 2005 at 11:47am
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Ok now im totaly confused but I do agree that it was wrong to have you
change your shirt it was simply supporting or military and if you dont
agree then tuff. The 1st amendment allows you the rights to say
whatever you want or in your case say it in shirt form. but yes most of
my family lives in the most racist states out there like mississippi
louissiana and texas but I on the other hand live here in Illinois and
sometimes I cant belive some of the racsist comment they say. Yet at
other times I myself almost feel like saying something along the lines
of what they said. I dont considder myself racist more like prejudice
simply because I have only really heread the southern white voice which
I do want to hear the southern black voice at the same time. This is
all before I make my final conclussion of the matter.
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 11 October 2005 at 5:07pm
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It doesnt have anything to do with race as far as southern dialects go. It has to do with social class.
Uperclass southern will say theater very softly. "Theatah" with no real pause anywhere. A lowerclass southerner will say something like "Thee-ate-er" with three distinct pauses. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: WGP guy2
Date Posted: 11 October 2005 at 5:10pm
They could be taken as racist I guess. But to whale and you, keep in mind that what I said was from my personal observations, from what I have seen and what I know. That does not mean I am talking about all black people, just the majority I have seen. |
Posted By: WGP guy2
Date Posted: 11 October 2005 at 5:12pm
| By the way, this never really happened. I just wanted to see what you guys thought about situtations like this. |
Posted By: Jim Paint
Date Posted: 11 October 2005 at 5:16pm
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saepe fidelis |
Posted By: Jim Paint
Date Posted: 11 October 2005 at 5:17pm
Because we all know that seeing a gun does horrible things to your mind. -------------
saepe fidelis |
Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 11 October 2005 at 5:19pm
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Im not racist but... -------------
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 11 October 2005 at 5:20pm
| This is great - I don't even have to debate, since these guys debate against themselves much better than I ever could. |
Posted By: bravecoward
Date Posted: 11 October 2005 at 5:23pm
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****BREATHES*** HAHAHAHAHA man wgp, you are one funny man
and that wasn't sarcasm |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 11 October 2005 at 5:24pm
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I dont really beleive him. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 11 October 2005 at 5:27pm
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Fixed. -------------
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Posted By: WGP guy2
Date Posted: 11 October 2005 at 5:44pm
Oh I seriously do have that shirt (pretty old though). I would never wear it to school though because the same situation as my first post would have happened. |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 11 October 2005 at 5:52pm
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The funny thing is that WGP somehow thinks that this makes him LESS racist, rather than MORE racist. :) |
Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 11 October 2005 at 6:28pm
Simple yes or no answer, you consider affirmative action unfair? -------------
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Posted By: WGP guy2
Date Posted: 11 October 2005 at 6:35pm
Who said I wanted to be thought of as less racist? |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 11 October 2005 at 6:52pm
| Silly me - somehow I figured that somebody who dedicated an entire thread to complaining about racism would not want to be thought of as racist himself. |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 11 October 2005 at 9:39pm
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Wow... This might have turned into one of the dumbest threads I can remember...except my theory of baggy jeans... -------------
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Posted By: Kristofer
Date Posted: 11 October 2005 at 10:40pm
| Ive had teachers tell me to take my shirts off because they would say "swift silent deadly" for the Marine Recon. some had knives some had other stuff that was totally violent. just tell them how it is. the military saves our lives. so i support them and this is how i support them. worked for me. |