*Update* ($ inc.) New paintball pistol.
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Topic: *Update* ($ inc.) New paintball pistol.
Posted By: Hyper
Subject: *Update* ($ inc.) New paintball pistol.
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 5:45pm
http://www.tacticalairguns.com/ - It's about time!!!
I saw this new semi-auto pistol on a paintball show last week. It uses quick change magazines that holds CO2 cartridges and 8 paintballs INSIDE THE GRIP! Looked to me as though it used .68 caliber paintballs. They showed the quick change ability of the air/paintball magazine you simply pop out the one mag with the (i am assuming push button release) release, and insert the already loaded mag into the bottom of the grip & you're ready to rock! The mag releases the gas with a quick swoosh when it is disengaged. There must be some sort of valving inside the mag allowing the air to remain charged in the magazine until you reload with paint and reinsert into the pistol. They said you can expect about 40 shots per co2 cartridge, and a neat feature of having the extra mags is you can keep quick changing them...then reload with paint until they are out of air. Another nice little feature of the mags is the spring hold back function....you can keep the spring pressure off the ball stack until you are ready to insert into the gun. It will be interesting to see when these things will come out, how much they are, and how reliable they are. The guy on TV double tapped 4 targets, exchanged mags, then eptied the gun again.....EXCELLENT!! Called the Tac Eagle. Can't wait!   ------------- 
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Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 5:47pm
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Cool.
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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 5:48pm
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Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 6:07pm
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kinda ugly ------------- X |
Posted By: Tolgak
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 6:08pm
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Saw it on the Special Ops forum. Yes, it uses .68 cal balls and it's
going to be released with a price of somewhere between $250-$300.
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Posted By: paintbusta
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 6:08pm
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i want one to that is awsome ------------- 
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Posted By: djrock
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 6:08pm
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No it's not. It is overpriced. ------------- 
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Styro Folme wrote:Posted By: bluemunky42
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 6:12pm
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What's the catch? ------------- 
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Posted By: oreomann33
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 6:37pm
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Problably sucks.
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Posted By: impulse!
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 6:41pm
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Why not just play airsoft if you want realistic guns. That thing is a joke. Carry a larger air tank and more pods. And bam no reason to carry a sidearm. ------------- 
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Posted By: Hairball!!!
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 6:59pm
| I shot one at the IAO. I have to say, it was fairly nice to shoot. |
Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 7:11pm
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Posted By: bluemunky42
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 7:16pm
I must have overlooked that. -------------
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Posted By: Hitman
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 7:22pm
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That would be pretty fun to play with. It's the kind of gun that you
could do freaky stealth stuff without the large gun weighing you down.
You could holster it and climb a tree Solid Snake style.
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Posted By: pbdude985
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 8:06pm
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wow thats pretty cool , i like it ------------- 
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Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 8:14pm
Exactly. Paintball isnt exactly catered to scenario players, and anyone who wants to go for a more realistic experience, then do airsoft. There really is no point in this gun, because a PGP is just as effective, less than half the cost, and is already known as reliable. ------------- 
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Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 8:16pm
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 8:24pm
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I can't believe it took this long for somebody to come up with a gas+paint clip. This is a great idea. Now ATS (and others) can take the same principle, and apply to larger clips for larger guns. Very cool. |
Posted By: Tolgak
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 8:46pm
First of all, it's not just about milsim. Though it obviously borrows from real guns, there is something you are overlooking. There's a reason magazines exist. They make for quick reloading and the fact that the paint and gas come in one package make it a lot easier to handle reloading. I love my PGP 2k1 to death but I have to admit, for those LOOKING for an advantage in a pistol, the one posted is right for them. If you've ever handled a Zeus or any other semi-auto pistol out there, changing those mags is a pain. And if you just wanted to feed paint into the mags and not switch them. You have to pull a plug (that could easily be dropped especially with gloved hands) pull the spring back (two handed operation) load from a 10 rnd tube (without modification the caps can be lost easily) and plug it back in then cock it again. Then there's another process for the 12-gram. If you're not afraid to drop clips so that you can pick them up later, reloading is as simple as reaching for a fresh mag with one hand while pushing the mag release button with the other hand (without altering grip on the gun), letting the mag drop out, and inserting the fresh one in. Then you cock it and go. -------------
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Posted By: youm0nt
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 9:41pm
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Posted By: Homer J
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 9:50pm
| I'll stick to a Zeus G2, or a PMI USP. |
Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 14 October 2005 at 12:06am
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Posted By: reifidom
Date Posted: 14 October 2005 at 8:16am
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I'll still be out on the field with my bulky pgp2k. The one that makes the kids ask "Where's your gun?" If I have a chance to shoot one of these I'll give it a try, but I'm not in a position to drop that much on a pistol. ------------- 
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Posted By: sporx
Date Posted: 14 October 2005 at 10:00am
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i think it's a sexy. ------------- 
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Posted By: Razgriz Ghost
Date Posted: 31 October 2005 at 3:57am
| I think that they stole my friends design! I don't know how it shoots though, and I can only speculate as to how my friends does, He keeps most of it a secret as he doesn't want something like what I said to happen. He's working hard on it though, between a lot of work and school, and hopes to make a prototype real quick. Maybe when he's done I'll post pics. From the drawings that I have seen his will be a lot sweeter than this. He's also designing it so that the reciever blows back after every shot so that should be sweet. |
Posted By: skarshnik
Date Posted: 01 November 2005 at 12:04pm
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i want one
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Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 01 November 2005 at 3:17pm
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Yup, I saw the patent for that thing a couple years ago, I know alot of
people that had been waiting to see it finally go production.
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 01 November 2005 at 3:27pm
| Anyone else not like the look of that trigger? It looks like the trigger will be annoying.... |
Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 01 November 2005 at 3:44pm
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I'm sorta confused about something. Expect 40 shots from each Co2 cartridge? ...and the magazine holds a 12 gram cartridge and 8 rounds. ...will you be able to reload the magazine without taking it out of the gun and dumping the rest of the Co2? Or is there some kind of seal that can be established to save the sir as you re-fill the mag?
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Posted By: Razgriz Ghost
Date Posted: 01 November 2005 at 4:04pm
| Someone had explained that. I think that the mag has two chambers one for paint and one for c02. |
Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 01 November 2005 at 4:13pm
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Right, that doesnt mean anything though. If the Co2 and the paint are in one mag, what happens when you remove the magazine to reload paint? It'll still be detached from the marker. ------------- ? |
Posted By: Razgriz Ghost
Date Posted: 01 November 2005 at 4:15pm
| They are in two different chambers in one mag and you can open one up without dumping the other. |
Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 01 November 2005 at 4:22pm
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It could have 30 chambers in it, that still doesnt answer my question. I'm not talking about removing the cartridge from the magazine, I'm talking about removing a 12 gram cartridge which has had its seal broken already, FROM the marker. Take an old talon, drop in a 12 gram cartridge, seal it up. Then open it after 8 shots and watch what happens. The picture that I'm getting is the same thing roughly. Now, if the magazine can be loaded without removing it from the gun, then I can see how you wouldn't dump co2, but that would be a moronic loading idea. What I see is a magazine that has a 12 gram Co2 cartridge in one chamber, and 8 rounds of paint in the other. You drop the magazine in the gun, seal it, and fire 8 shots. Then what? Remove the magazine and replace it with a fresh one? There goes 32 shots. Maybe its just me, but I'm not following how that is practical. ------------- ? |
Posted By: Razgriz Ghost
Date Posted: 01 November 2005 at 4:28pm
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Right what I am saying is that while the mag is in the gun you can unscrew or uncap a chamber to reload the paint and leave the co2 in the mag. So once you sealed the mag the only thing you would have to reload, until the air ran out, is the paint. |
Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 01 November 2005 at 4:35pm
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Ah. I think I see what you're saying. So, on top of having magazines to carry around, I'd have to have some kind of stripper clip or 8 round hopper to dump paint in after I exhaust the capacity of my magazine. That kinda negates the advantages of having the Co2 and the paint in the same magazine in the first place doesn't it? ------------- ? |
Posted By: Razgriz Ghost
Date Posted: 01 November 2005 at 4:37pm
| Yeah it does I don't like the gun in th first place and honestly I don't like the idea of a sidearm period. |
Posted By: Hyper
Date Posted: 01 November 2005 at 6:38pm
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OK....here is how it works.
The magazine holds the paint and air in separate stacks. Once the CO2 is pierced (in the mag), there is some sort of quick release valve that closes off the air flow from the mag until it is inserted into the marker....whence it will open the check valve. From the video I saw, the guy shot his 8 shots, hit a simple button which released the mag(just like a real pistol except with a small swoosh as the valve closed) And immediately took a new mag loaded with fresh paint and air and inserted into the pistol just like a real firearm....he then resumed firing. SIMPLE....and FAST. When you have some downtime....refill all the mags with paint a few more times until the air is gone...then reload the air when needed. The idea is to have multiple mags. Get it? -------------
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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 01 November 2005 at 6:46pm
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Ah, thats the answer I was looking for. I still don't like the idea. ------------- ? |
Posted By: pb125
Date Posted: 01 November 2005 at 6:49pm
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Um.... I can't wait for some kid to get shot for having this on the street. It's way too real looking. ------------- 
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Posted By: Kpoofs
Date Posted: 01 November 2005 at 7:21pm
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For once, a cool pistol.
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Posted By: cadet_sergeant
Date Posted: 01 November 2005 at 7:31pm
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Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 01 November 2005 at 7:46pm
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thats freakin awsome....I might have to check it out if I ever get to play again....
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Posted By: Mr. Heckler
Date Posted: 01 November 2005 at 10:26pm
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Posted By: Hyper
Date Posted: 10 November 2005 at 10:54am
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Well, I was excited about this thing....last week the MSRP was listed at $239 for the pistol & 1 mag, and you could buy 2 additional mags for $39.95. It was also called the tac8.
NOW it is called the tag8 and MSRP is $259 for pistol, and $49.95 for EACH additional mag.
Not a good way for them to start out. I was considering it at the previous price and only after it hits the market and prices drop a bit. Oh well, I won't be buying one anythime soon.  -------------
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Posted By: Hairball!!!
Date Posted: 10 November 2005 at 11:43am
| Keep in mind that a small company with an innovative, and probably an expensive to produce product, needs to charge high to even break even. |
Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 10 November 2005 at 11:55am
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I still like the product, but somebody should tell these guys that RAISING prices before bringing out a new product is not good marketing strategy... ------------- [IMG]http://i38.tinypic.com/aag8s8.jpg"> |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 10 November 2005 at 3:09pm
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seriously, the only thing I'm not liking is the price of the mags!
Just the gun and 3 mags would be the price of a pretty high-end gun nowadays. Good premise, they need to bring the price down...as a whole paintball is a competetive market! Hopefully another pistol comes out to compete with it and the price drops. |
Posted By: HercTPA
Date Posted: 10 November 2005 at 7:31pm
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First off this thing is amazing (if you like this kind of thing) and will sell very well despite the initial price tag. Once the hype has died down it will drop in price just like all PB equipment.
Second they accidently gave out MAP pricing as MSRP. They are human and prone to mistakes. Third I believe RAP4 is already in the process of making something to compete with it. We have already started preselling them and they are doing well. The 1st 1000 will be shipped Dec 3rd, however the silver will not be ready for the 1st run. I'm a die hard tourney baller and don't get into these kind of things. I also don't like the realism of this type of equipment. However I will own one (maybe a pair if I come into some extra money) they are just that nice. I personaly would make a change or two but give them time. ------------- Unfortunately you awesome sig was to much of a resource hog on others. Thanks for understading. |
Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 10 November 2005 at 8:30pm
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still don't like it. ------------- X |
Posted By: HercTPA
Date Posted: 10 November 2005 at 8:59pm
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You don't have to. ------------- Unfortunately you awesome sig was to much of a resource hog on others. Thanks for understading. |
Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 10 November 2005 at 8:59pm
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that's a load off my mind..... ------------- X |
Posted By: HercTPA
Date Posted: 14 November 2005 at 8:18pm
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lol....
All I was saying is what one person likes others may not. If you want realism this is as close as it gets (right now). ------------- Unfortunately you awesome sig was to much of a resource hog on others. Thanks for understading. |
Posted By: N0M1S
Date Posted: 14 November 2005 at 8:40pm
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Posted By: HercTPA
Date Posted: 15 November 2005 at 7:41am
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It's funny people say it's over priced. lol...
Over priced for compaired to what? How much should it cost? The RAP 4 has had this same price tag for a while now. People pay $1699 for the latest Timmys which are usually NO different (besides milling and color) from last years or 2 years ago model. When the older models are 400-1000 cheaper. I don't hear people saying the BKO was over priced when it was $550 a year ago and now they are $167. Look at the cosmetic accessories for the A-5 and 98 talk about OVER PRICED. They have NO functional value and most of these packages cost more than this pistol. Look at gaming systems, high end cars, golf clubs, etc. if you would like to talk about over priced. I could go on for ever with examples of over prices but the price is a bit high right now, but over priced? Atleast this new pistol has a new and inivative concept and design which justifies a little higher price tag (for now atleast) and sets it WAY above the competition. ------------- Unfortunately you awesome sig was to much of a resource hog on others. Thanks for understading. |
Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 15 November 2005 at 8:08am
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I have a Zues G1+ with Quick cap, and saturday when I was playing the speed town I was in a dual with a guy with a Mag when I ran out of CO2 while I was changing the 12g and reloading paint, the guy ran up and bunkered me. Needless to say I was pissed. I wouldnt have taht problem with this thing but Im not willing to pay $250 for it either, plus extra mags... ------------- 
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Posted By: TruePaintballer
Date Posted: 15 November 2005 at 8:52am
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