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Topic: I’d Like To Hear You Guys’ Thoughts...
Posted By: -ProDigY-
Subject: I’d Like To Hear You Guys’ Thoughts...
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 5:50pm

On the following questions:

Why do people need morals and values?

What is the source of personal integrity?

What are challenges to personal integrity?



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Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 5:52pm
People need morals and values to guide their life. Screw the other two.

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Posted By: paintbusta
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 6:03pm

we dont need any of them seriously



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Posted By: -ProDigY-
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 6:06pm

Originally posted by paintbusta paintbusta wrote:

we dont need any of them seriously

Care to defend that?



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Posted By: bluemunky42
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 6:12pm
What's personal integrity?

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Posted By: djrock
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 6:14pm
I could ask you the same questions.

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It's been changed jackass.


Posted By: bluemunky42
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 6:14pm
Originally posted by djrock djrock wrote:

I could ask you the same questions.

So you could, but what good does that do anyone?

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Posted By: -ProDigY-
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 6:15pm

Originally posted by djrock djrock wrote:

I could ask you the same questions.

Yes...  You could...



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Posted By: -ProDigY-
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 6:15pm

Originally posted by djrock djrock wrote:

I could ask you the same questions.

in·teg·ri·ty    https://secure.reference.com/premium/login.html?rd=2&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdictionary.reference.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dintegrity">Audio pronunciation of "integrity" ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (n-tgr-t)
n.

  1. Steadfast adherence to a strict moral or ethical code


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Posted By: oreomann33
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 6:23pm
Do your own fricken homework.

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Posted By: -ProDigY-
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 6:25pm

Originally posted by oreomann33 oreomann33 wrote:

Do your own fricken homework.

I'm in Argentina.  I don't HAVE any homework.



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Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 6:28pm
I think they are needed to maintain a decent society, and something most americans dont have much of is integrity.

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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 6:30pm
Originally posted by -ProDigY- -ProDigY- wrote:

On the following questions:


Why do people need morals and values?

So that everything seems neat and tidy, so everyone is happy, plus it's just (normal) human nature

What is the source of personal integrity?

Being content with what one has

What are challenges to personal integrity?

Not being content with what one has


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Posted By: -ProDigY-
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 6:34pm

Here's a clue, guys.

I don't think you're going to be able to answer this one in one sentence bullet form.

When I say I'm looking for you guys' thoughts on this subject, I mean you should put a little bit of thought into it.



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Posted By: ritzblitz
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 6:46pm
Which class is this for?

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Posted By: -ProDigY-
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 6:47pm

Again, I'm abroad right now and so this is not for any class I'm taking.

I could just go for some stimulating conversation.



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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 7:16pm
Originally posted by -ProDigY- -ProDigY- wrote:

Why do people need morals and values?

What do you mean "need"?  Whose need is it?

I.e., I "need" morals for my own benefit, or society "needs" morals for its benefit?  Or other people "need" morals for my benefit?

 



Posted By: -ProDigY-
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 7:18pm
Originally posted by Clark Kent Clark Kent wrote:

Originally posted by -ProDigY- -ProDigY- wrote:

Why do people need morals and values?

What do you mean "need"?  Whose need is it?

I.e., I "need" morals for my own benefit, or society "needs" morals for its benefit?  Or other people "need" morals for my benefit?

Any and all of those, Clark.

It's purposely a broad question.  Answer it any way you choose.



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Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 8:02pm

The REAL question here is...

...If they get BET how comes we dont gets WET???



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Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 8:09pm
Originally posted by Tae Kwon Do Tae Kwon Do wrote:

The REAL question here is...

...If they get BET how comes we dont gets WET???




CAUSE TEH REVERSE RASIZM WOULD CAUZE ALL BLACK PEOPEL EVERYWHERE TO HOLLA "DA'S RACIST HOMEBOY!!"

And prodigy, I may make an attempt to answer at leas one of those questions in full. But when My adderall kicks in.


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Posted By: 98God
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 8:13pm
People need morals and values because they keep the world in order. If people didn't have any morals then there would be rapists, murderers, thiefs and the like all over the place. Granted there are a few bad apples like that but the people with morals and values keep them on the right track and keep the world turning.


Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 8:19pm

If its a proven fact that it was Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve, home come we still have affirmitive action.



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Posted By: WGP guy2
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 8:20pm
Originally posted by -ProDigY- -ProDigY- wrote:

I could just go for some stimulating conversation.



I'm sure hades will be the best for that.


Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 8:22pm

Originally posted by 98God 98God wrote:

People need morals and values because they keep the world in order. If people didn't have any morals then there would be rapists, murderers, thiefs and the like all over the place. Granted there are a few bad apples like that but the people with morals and values keep them on the right track and keep the world turning.

Well, murder is illegal killing.  Rape is illegal sex.  In an anarchical state without values or laws, you can have neither murder nor rape.  Or thieves, for that matter.

The ONLY reason we have rape, murder, and theft, is because we have certain values and laws.  Not the other way around.

But, of course, it would be impossible to have "no values".  It would simply be different values.  When people say "no values", they really mean "values I don't agree with".



Posted By: 98God
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 8:25pm
Originally posted by Clark Kent Clark Kent wrote:

Originally posted by 98God 98God wrote:

People need morals and values because they keep the world in order. If people didn't have any morals then there would be rapists, murderers, thiefs and the like all over the place. Granted there are a few bad apples like that but the people with morals and values keep them on the right track and keep the world turning.

Well, murder is illegal killing.  Rape is illegal sex.  In an anarchical state without values or laws, you can have neither murder nor rape.  Or thieves, for that matter.

The ONLY reason we have rape, murder, and theft, is because we have certain values and laws.  Not the other way around.

But, of course, it would be impossible to have "no values".  It would simply be different values.  When people say "no values", they really mean "values I don't agree with".



Yeah that is true but if people didn't have morals there would be a much greater number of them in my opinion. If someone doesn't give a hell about something they are going to do it. In my opinon anyway.


Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 8:26pm
I think you misunderstood my post... 


Posted By: 98God
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 8:28pm
Originally posted by Clark Kent Clark Kent wrote:

I think you misunderstood my post... 


Yeah I did. I re-read it though and got it that time. Don't mind my second post.


Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 8:29pm

A.  No morals means no laws

B.  No laws means no illegal acts, no crimes

C.  No crimes means no murder, theft, or rape, since those things are defined by their illegality.

 

But most importantly: "no morals" = nonsense



Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 8:29pm
Originally posted by -ProDigY- -ProDigY- wrote:

On the following questions:


Why do people need morals and values?



To keep the animals and brutes in line. They make people feel safe at night.

What is the source of personal integrity?


The soul or heart of a person.

What are challenges to personal integrity?


When a person has a chance to deviate from his or her definition of what is right, and what is wrong.


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Posted By: bluemunky42
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 8:32pm
You should consider Buddihsm. They're the kind of people who wonder "If a tree falls in the forest, does it make a sound?" and stuff like that. Here, look at this: http://soyouwanna.com/site/syws/buddhism/buddhism.html - So You Wanna convert to Buddihsm?

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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 8:35pm

That Buddhism for Dummies link cracks me up.

:)



Posted By: Hitman
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 10:44pm
Morality is something that is taught by parents. I was raised by liberal parents so now I believe in the right to smoke pot, **edited** rights, and racial equality.

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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 11:40pm
Morals are just a form of social and personal controls similar to law and social values.

Are they important for people to get along, sure. Are they vital for existance to survive? Probably not.

But everyone and every society has their own morals and expectations of other to adhere to those morals. Since they dont always coinside conflict is created.

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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 14 October 2005 at 12:02am
Because I said So.

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Posted By: Darur
Date Posted: 14 October 2005 at 12:45am
Originally posted by bluemunky42 bluemunky42 wrote:

You should consider Buddihsm. They're the kind of people who wonder "If a tree falls in the forest, does it make a sound?" and stuff like that. Here, look at this: http://soyouwanna.com/site/syws/buddhism/buddhism.html - So You Wanna convert to Buddihsm?


Speaking of Buddihsm, arent their views sort of paradox?  They beleive in moderation and if they are moderate in everything they do isnt that taking moderation to the extream?  Just a thought.

But to answer your question Prod, think about doing something you never tried, dont you want to know the rules or limitations?  I think its part of the human personality that we want to know the rules and if there are none we want to have them.  Morals are just really broad rules.


 

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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 14 October 2005 at 12:52am

Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:


Speaking of Buddihsm, arent their views sort of paradox?  They beleive in moderation and if they are moderate in everything they do isnt that taking moderation to the extream?   

A buddhist monk once told me that moderation should be practiced in moderation.

No joke.



Posted By: Rhino 91
Date Posted: 14 October 2005 at 4:35am

Originally posted by Cedric Cedric wrote:

People need morals and values to guide their life. Screw the other two.

totally agree



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Posted By: sporx
Date Posted: 14 October 2005 at 9:47am
People need morals to be thier own independent person.

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Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 14 October 2005 at 11:24am
Originally posted by Rhino 91 Rhino 91 wrote:

Originally posted by Cedric Cedric wrote:

People need morals and values to guide their life. Screw the other two.

totally agree


Ugh. Now I know I'm wrong.


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