Fire Dept. or Marines?
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Topic: Fire Dept. or Marines?
Posted By: Rhino 91
Subject: Fire Dept. or Marines?
Date Posted: 15 October 2005 at 12:53am
Which should I do. A infantry man for the marines and comit 4 years to the u.s. or fire dept with a flexible schedule? Just was wondering what your thoughts were.
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Posted By: Rhino 91
Date Posted: 15 October 2005 at 12:55am
Or possibly shoot for the army rangers but doubt it.
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Posted By: FoRenSiC
Date Posted: 15 October 2005 at 12:56am
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Depens if you wanna do something short term do the marines, longterm Fire departement
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 15 October 2005 at 12:56am
Posted By: Apotheosis
Date Posted: 15 October 2005 at 12:57am
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Rangers - Marines - Firefighter.
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Posted By: Rhino 91
Date Posted: 15 October 2005 at 1:00am
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Apotheosis wrote:
Rangers - Marines - Firefighter. |
That would be kinda heavy. How do you switch devisions in the military, like from marines to the army?
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Posted By: Pate
Date Posted: 15 October 2005 at 1:01am
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Join
the Airforce for Firefighting and serve on a ship as a firefighter.
Then once you get out you will have a better chance of a Firefighter
job, and I think you actually get paid more.
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Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 15 October 2005 at 1:02am
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my opinion... if you score high enough on the test, don't know what it's called, to not be in the infantry, or any other position which puts you in the iraqi's ak sights... go for the marines. but if it's between infantry or firefighting... go for the firefighting... cause at least you don't have people shooting at you.
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Posted By: themovielife
Date Posted: 15 October 2005 at 1:02am
Posted By: Apotheosis
Date Posted: 15 October 2005 at 1:03am
Rhino 91 wrote:
Apotheosis wrote:
Rangers - Marines - Firefighter. |
That would be kinda heavy. How do you switch devisions in the military, like from marines to the army? |
Sorry. I was ranking your optioins in the order that I would pick them.
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Posted By: Apotheosis
Date Posted: 15 October 2005 at 1:03am
procarbinefreak wrote:
my opinion... if you score high enough on the
test, don't know what it's called, to not be in the infantry, or any
other position which puts you in the iraqi's ak sights... go for the
marines. but if it's between infantry or firefighting... go for the
firefighting... cause at least you don't have people shooting at you.
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The ASVAB.
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Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 15 October 2005 at 1:05am
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that's it... cause my brother's buddy didn't score so hot... and now he's on his second tour in iraq... his other friend scored higher and is living with his wife in one of the carolinas...
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Posted By: Rhino 91
Date Posted: 15 October 2005 at 1:09am
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themovielife wrote:
First, How old are you? |
I'm 14, sorry a bit young to be askin this, but I'm doing a research paper for school on what I should do after I get out high school, I know I want to go into the firefighting field but have lately thought of military (always have admired marines for some odd reason) just wonderinf if you guys think thats a good idea or not. I don't like the getting shot at part but hopefully I can shoot back, I was thinking possibly a medic field would be gnarly.
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Posted By: Rhino 91
Date Posted: 15 October 2005 at 1:10am
Rhino 91 wrote:
themovielife wrote:
First, How old are you? |
I'm 14, sorry a bit young to be askin this, but I'm doing a research paper for school on what I should do after I get out high school, I know I want to go into the firefighting field but have lately thought of military (always have admired marines for some odd reason) just wonderinf if you guys think thats a good idea or not. I don't like the getting shot at part but hopefully I can shoot back , I was thinking possibly a medic field would be gnarly.
- rhino |
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Posted By: Teh_Ninja
Date Posted: 15 October 2005 at 4:02am
...are you actully planing on doing it or is it just a paper?
because if you actully want to do it then neither.
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Posted By: Kristofer
Date Posted: 15 October 2005 at 8:22am
Marine Corps.!
Ive been talking to recruiter since i was 14.
Always wanted to become a Marine and now I am almost there.
Its your choice. But I would choose the Marines because they are the most respected fighting force in the entire world.
Also. No matter how high you ASVAB score is. as long as you qualify for a job. You can take that job. I got a 76 or a 78 on mine. (finished in like ten minutes) I still chose infantry which required a 31 on the ASVAB.
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Posted By: SuperXero
Date Posted: 15 October 2005 at 8:35am
I'd say marines, over firefighting, though that isn't saying you can't do one then the other.
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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 15 October 2005 at 8:51am
How about join the Marines, then go to the fire department with the experience that you learned.
Kinda like that Army commercial...
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Posted By: Heres To You
Date Posted: 15 October 2005 at 9:08am
Rhino 91 wrote:
Rhino 91 wrote:
themovielife wrote:
First, How old are you? |
I'm 14, sorry a bit young to be askin this, but I'm doing a research
paper for school on what I should do after I get out high school, I
know I want to go into the firefighting field but have lately thought
of military (always have admired marines for some odd reason) just
wonderinf if you guys think thats a good idea or not. I don't like the
getting shot at part but hopefully I can shoot back , I was thinking possibly a medic field would be gnarly.
- rhino |
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The ASVAB is nothing to worry about. I'm 17 and an average A and
B (occasional C) student, and I scored an 84. An 84 out of a 99,
qualifies me for any job I want in the Navy, even the nuclear portion
jobs.
But In my opinion, I wouldn't join infrantry. That a hands down
ticket to Iraq. I mean, I'm glad they're are people that do it
willingly, but I wouldn't wish anyone to go. It seems cool, and
the military does a good job on causing interest in the field, but I'm
pretty sure it's alot different when your out in a tent, worried for
your life.
But me and my friend are joining the Navy. Basicallly, each
branch will offer you something a little different (be it pay, tour
terms, signing bonus, etc....) My friend and I have talked to
recruiters from every branch except ARMY, which we just don't feel is
for us. Right now we feel the Navy would be the best way to go.
But as said before, be a firefighter in the military, then when you get
done with your four years, your out of the service with 4 years
experience which most any firestation will consider excellent.
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Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 15 October 2005 at 9:40am
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At 14 it doesn't matter. Whatever you 'want to be' now will change over the next 4 years anyway.
Becoming a Fire Fighter is a great thing. You get flexible hours (Usually somthing like 24 hours on, 48 hours off), good pay, great job security. Plenty of feilds to get into, Engineering (Driving), repair, forrestry patrol, airport patrol, HAZ-MAT, tanker spill specialist, ect...
It offers just as much if not more of the ability to make strong friendships and bonds with people as the armed forces. You will be serving your community here at home and not in some middle-eastern dustbowl.
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 15 October 2005 at 9:48am
Tae Kwon Do wrote:
It offers just as much if not more of the ability to make strong friendships and bonds with people as the armed forces. You will be serving your community here at home and not in some middle-eastern dustbowl.
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Not really. Bonding with people depends on the people really. Some firehouses are very very close nit, station 21 in fairfax is like that, i can walk in and go over to the paid guys side and get some stuff out and make a sandwich and guys will say hi to me no questions asked. But i know other fire houses, like the local station five, they are a smaller station, but for some reason, they dont go to kings dominion, and they dont have big big cook outs at peoples houses, they arent as close. It varries, but i would say in the armed forces, you will make have a bigger chance to bond with people.
My grandfather just went up north to Arlington Cemetary from south carolina to go to the funeral of a classmate last week. Been years since he has seen him, but they were still close.
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Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 15 October 2005 at 12:44pm
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Do both. Go for Crash, Fire and Rescue as an MOS in the Marine Corps.Then be a firefighter when you get out. Or enlist as a reservist and get a civilian job as a firefighter. But remember, things do change a lot over the course of highschool, you may change your mind. If you become set on the military, don't be a retard and blow off taking the SATs in highschool. Good SAT scores will perk up a recruiter's interest in you, and if you change your mind or don't make it(like say, fracture a few vertebrea, dislocate your shoulder and break you wrist in pugil sticks II. Its really sad when that happens to a totally motivated recruit. He still won BTW) you wont have screwed yourself.
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Posted By: Hoytshooter
Date Posted: 15 October 2005 at 1:37pm
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Ha I was about to ask the same question, but i decided go with the Marines, I'm not sure if I should go with the reserves or with a 4 year tour. I'm def. not gonna make a life long career out of it becuase I want my kids to grow up in the same place there childhood. I would either want to be Infrantry or a machanic on humvees or ground vehicles. Any suggestions.?
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Posted By: 5ptcontingency
Date Posted: 15 October 2005 at 2:17pm
Keep in mind, all, that every intial contract with any branch of the military is 8 years,
regardless of the amount of time you choose to spend on active duty.
For example, after your first 4 years active duty you'll still be
government property for another 4 years, though you won't be attached
to a unit or be doing any training. If you choose to serve 6 years,
you'll spend 2 years in such reserve status.
But, they can still drag you back in until your ETS date. In these times, that is a very real possibility.
And don't even get me started on Stop Loss.
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Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 15 October 2005 at 2:21pm
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Yep, he's right. However, time in the delayed entry program takes off from you inactive reserve time. But you can only do one year of that.
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Posted By: Hoytshooter
Date Posted: 15 October 2005 at 3:04pm
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So if enlisted in the reserves I would be an active reservist for 8 years? I'm not anti-iraq war and I if going their is one reason for me to join. All these people fighting to protect me I think I should do my part and atleast help em' out. But I think I want to go reserves and after a year of that go to the local Technical College.
Edit: I want to be a heavy Equipment mechanic and I'm sure working on tanks and humvees would look eceptional on a job aplication and would probably ensure a job.
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Posted By: whack-a-mole
Date Posted: 15 October 2005 at 3:16pm
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rednekk98 wrote:
Yep, he's right. However, time in the delayed entry program takes off from you inactive reserve time. But you can only do one year of that. |
It kinda depends. A friend is in the army and he is doing ROTC in college. He has already attended basic, so while he does his four years ROTC in college it will count towards the four years that would normally count at the end of your commitment. So after he finishes college and his four year active commitment he will be done.
As for what you should do, I suggest doing a lot of research on these two choices. There is alot more to both of them than meets the eye. I would suggest that you work with a volunteer fire department for a while if that is available in your community. If it's not go talk to the local city department. The reason I say this is because I worked with the fire department in my local town. Next go talk with a marine recruiter and see what they have to offer. Just be aware of what they say. Recruiter have a way of bending the truth. I'm not 100% sure about the marines but I know that in the Air Force and the Army you have a choice as a mos of being a firefighter.
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Posted By: 5ptcontingency
Date Posted: 15 October 2005 at 3:20pm
Hoytshooter wrote:
So if enlisted in the reserves I would be an active reservist for 8 years?
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You might end up "drilling" in the reserves for 8 years, but most only
do so for 4 to 6 years. However, when in the army's Individual Ready
Reserve, just about any unit can claim you and call you back to duty,
so it's kind of a gamble. Many soldiers in my unit have chosen to stay
with our unit rather than go to the IRR.
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Posted By: Hoytshooter
Date Posted: 15 October 2005 at 3:23pm
Yeah my local station has whats called an Explorer Post, Actually we have them all over the western part of North Carolina. What they do is have basically rutine full time firefighter training but for 8th grade to 11th graders. They let us use the equipment and ocasionally let us finish up putting out small car fires, and we get to help out alot on wild/brush fires. Its fun.
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Posted By: Hoytshooter
Date Posted: 15 October 2005 at 3:26pm
5ptcontingency wrote:
Hoytshooter wrote:
So if enlisted in the reserves I would be an active reservist for 8 years?
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You might end up "drilling" in the reserves for 8 years, but most only do so for 4 to 6 years. However, when in the army's Individual Ready Reserve, just about any unit can claim you and call you back to duty, so it's kind of a gamble. Many soldiers in my unit have chosen to stay with our unit rather than go to the IRR.
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What exactly do you mean by "drilling".
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Posted By: bluemunky42
Date Posted: 15 October 2005 at 3:47pm
5ptcontingency wrote:
Keep in mind, all, that every intial contract with any branch of the military is <span style="font-weight: bold;">8 years</span>,
regardless of the amount of time you choose to spend on active duty.
For example, after your first 4 years active duty you'll still be
government property for another 4 years, though you won't be attached
to a unit or be doing any training. If you choose to serve 6 years,
you'll spend 2 years in such reserve status.
But, they can still drag you back in until your ETS date. In these times, that is a very real possibility.
And don't even get me started on Stop Loss.
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That's not true, not the first part at least. I don't know about West Point or the marines place or USAF, but in the Naval Academy, if you go through all four years of officer training, you only have to serve 5 years.
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Posted By: Kristofer
Date Posted: 15 October 2005 at 3:54pm
Tae Kwon Do wrote:
At 14 it doesn't matter. Whatever you 'want to be' now will change over the next 4 years anyway.
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Wrong.
I have wanted to be a Marine since I can remember at the youngest age. And I have enlisted with the Marines. I wouldnt generalize by saying if you want to be one thing now in the future you wont want to be that. Some people may be like that but not all are.
Also to the post about different pay for different services. Thats False. Its all DoD. Your rank determines your pay. Different services will give you a signing bonus i.e. Army.
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Posted By: Kristofer
Date Posted: 15 October 2005 at 3:55pm
Hoytshooter wrote:
Ha I was about to ask the same question, but i decided go with the Marines, I'm not sure if I should go with the reserves or with a 4 year tour. I'm def. not gonna make a life long career out of it becuase I want my kids to grow up in the same place there childhood. I would either want to be Infrantry or a machanic on humvees or ground vehicles. Any suggestions.? |
Easy. Infantry! 0311!
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Posted By: Heres To You
Date Posted: 15 October 2005 at 4:28pm
Kristofer wrote:
Tae Kwon Do wrote:
At 14 it doesn't matter. Whatever you 'want to be' now will change over the next 4 years anyway.
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Wrong.
I have wanted to be a Marine since I can remember at the youngest
age. And I have enlisted with the Marines. I wouldnt generalize by
saying if you want to be one thing now in the future you wont want to
be that. Some people may be like that but not all are.
Also to the post about different pay for different services. Thats
False. Its all DoD. Your rank determines your pay. Different services
will give you a signing bonus i.e. Army. |
Thats exactly what I said.
Most marines and Seals decided thats what they wanted to do at an early age.
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Posted By: 5ptcontingency
Date Posted: 15 October 2005 at 4:39pm
bluemunky42 wrote:
5ptcontingency wrote:
Keep in mind, all, that
every intial contract with any branch of the military is <span
style="font-weight: bold;">8 years</span>,
regardless of the amount of time you choose to spend on active duty.
For example, after your first 4 years active duty you'll still be
government property for another 4 years, though you won't be attached
to a unit or be doing any training. If you choose to serve 6 years,
you'll spend 2 years in such reserve status.
But, they can still drag you back in until your ETS date. In these times, that is a very real possibility.
And don't even get me started on Stop Loss.
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That's not true, not the first part at least. I don't know about
West Point or the marines place or USAF, but in the Naval Academy, if
you go through all four years of officer training, you only have to
serve 5 years. |
What info do you base this on? I'm not an officer, and don't know what
the deal with this is, but I find it hard to believe the obligation
would be less for an officer.
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 15 October 2005 at 5:24pm
The four years you serve at west point count as military service, thats why the obligation is shorter.
And the rank in all the services get the same base pay. Different abilities get different pay, snipers, demolitions, MPs, fire fighters, mechanics, military inteligence. Just to name a bunch of M.O.S.s of the top of my head, they all make different saleries and draw different benifits.
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Posted By: 5ptcontingency
Date Posted: 15 October 2005 at 5:42pm
DBibeau855 wrote:
The four years you serve at west point count as military service, thats why the obligation is shorter.
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So, essentially, it's exactly as I said:
bluemunky42 wrote:
5ptcontingency wrote:
Keep in mind, all, that
every intial contract with any branch of the military is <span
style="font-weight: bold;">8 years</span>,
regardless of the amount of time you choose to spend on active duty.
For example, after your first 4 years active duty you'll still be
government property for another 4 years, though you won't be attached
to a unit or be doing any training. If you choose to serve 6 years,
you'll spend 2 years in such reserve status.
But, they can still drag you back in until your ETS date. In these times, that is a very real possibility.
And don't even get me started on Stop Loss.
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That's not true, not the first part at least. I don't know about
West Point or the marines place or USAF, but in the Naval Academy, if
you go through all four years of officer training, you only have to
serve 5 years. |
So, how was my statement "not true"? The initial 8 year obligation must still be fulfilled.
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Posted By: Homer J
Date Posted: 15 October 2005 at 6:26pm
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My cousin was a firefighter. It was too stressful for him, though. He teaches 4th grade now.
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