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Topic: propane
Posted By: custom pro
Subject: propane
Date Posted: 17 October 2005 at 4:37pm
Is it true that u can use propane on your marker? I heard some people talkin about it, and was just wondering if it is true or possible. 

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Posted By: peachey
Date Posted: 17 October 2005 at 4:47pm
is'nt propane used to power aeroplanes and jets though?

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Posted By: SuzukiRider987
Date Posted: 17 October 2005 at 4:51pm
No, you can't use propane to power your marker. You were probably hearing about Tippmann's experimental gun, which uses propane.

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Posted By: Cheetos3254
Date Posted: 17 October 2005 at 5:20pm
No you cant

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Posted By: pbdude985
Date Posted: 17 October 2005 at 5:26pm
not on any guns right new , the new tippmann gun you should be able to use propane with

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Posted By: Sargent Duck
Date Posted: 17 October 2005 at 8:20pm
Originally posted by peachey peachey wrote:

is'nt propane used to power aeroplanes and jets though?


Please, please tell me you weren't serious. For the love of all that is good, please tell me you were just joking.


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Posted By: Mr. Heckler
Date Posted: 17 October 2005 at 8:33pm

Even if it did work, wouldn't it be more expensive? And even if it was cheaper, it would reek something fierce.



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Posted By: Teh_Ninja
Date Posted: 17 October 2005 at 9:12pm
...any news on this new tippmann?


Posted By: tigman250
Date Posted: 17 October 2005 at 9:51pm

Originally posted by peachey peachey wrote:

is'nt propane used to power aeroplanes and jets though?

no, but you can grill one heck of a steak with it though!



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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 17 October 2005 at 9:53pm

I really hope Tippmann isn't serious with this whole Propane BS.

Seems like a noob's dream: Liek omg guys! my gunz is powerd by propene! shoots like 23 bpm!



Posted By: cv222005
Date Posted: 18 October 2005 at 10:30am
lol, i can think of one mod that would be a verry good reason not to use propane, take some sort of ignighter like from a grill and put it at the end of your barrel rig it to fire when you pull the trigger, and presto flaming paintballs

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Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 18 October 2005 at 10:39am
Originally posted by Teh_Ninja Teh_Ninja wrote:

...any news on this new tippmann?


Rummors are flying around our team forum about a new Tippmann that uses propaine.

I asked if the insurance companies are going to allow a flammable gas to be used on fields. I dont think so!


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Posted By: pballa123
Date Posted: 18 October 2005 at 12:16pm
Oh man. here we go. Somebody said this before, and they were eight. Soon enough, without even releasing a propane powered marker somebodys going o figure "Well if propane works on that marker, it will work on my 98c! BOOM!" No offense custom pro.


Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 18 October 2005 at 12:39pm

Originally posted by cv222005 cv222005 wrote:

lol, i can think of one mod that would be a verry good reason not to use propane, take some sort of ignighter like from a grill and put it at the end of your barrel rig it to fire when you pull the trigger, and presto flaming paintballs

The way the weaponwoks is the propane cumbusts inside the weapon, producing a complex hydrocarbon reaction the by products of which are O2 and H2O there for you cannot just put a lighter on the end os your barrel and make a flamethrower....



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Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 18 October 2005 at 2:42pm
Originally posted by Snake6 Snake6 wrote:

Originally posted by cv222005 cv222005 wrote:

lol, i can think of one mod that would be a verry good reason not to use propane, take some sort of ignighter like from a grill and put it at the end of your barrel rig it to fire when you pull the trigger, and presto flaming paintballs

The way the weaponwoks is the propane cumbusts inside the weapon, producing a complex hydrocarbon reaction the by products of which are O2 and H2O there for you cannot just put a lighter on the end os your barrel and make a flamethrower....



BOOOOO! I want my flamethrower


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Posted By: Teh_Ninja
Date Posted: 18 October 2005 at 3:38pm
It wouldnt be anymore dangerous then a cO2 tank. which have been known to explode and throw shrapnel around.

actully it would be safer because there under alot less presure.


Posted By: Pickle
Date Posted: 18 October 2005 at 5:45pm


Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 18 October 2005 at 6:23pm
^^^where did u find that?  i guess they are serius with this propane thing......

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Posted By: bravecoward
Date Posted: 18 October 2005 at 6:28pm

APG page 50



Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 18 October 2005 at 6:29pm

I am amazed that Tippmann has decided to finally think outside the box...

Cough Custom Pro Cough.



Posted By: noobtacular
Date Posted: 18 October 2005 at 6:30pm

Originally posted by cv222005 cv222005 wrote:

lol, i can think of one mod that would be a verry good reason not to use propane, take some sort of ignighter like from a grill and put it at the end of your barrel rig it to fire when you pull the trigger, and presto flaming paintballs

Lmao...

good for protection... just dryfire your gun in some guys face with a match in the barrel  good idea tippman ^^ make sure your next one uses gasoline lol



Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 18 October 2005 at 6:30pm
Yeah, Ive heard about the Tippmann C3 and I wonder what the "C" stands for...."Concusion" if and when it happens to explode from user error and btw, whats the price for one?

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Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 18 October 2005 at 6:31pm
Originally posted by bravecoward bravecoward wrote:

APG page 50

sorry, i don't get apg.  i don't even get half the magazines that come out that i have subscriptions for.



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Posted By: noobtacular
Date Posted: 18 October 2005 at 6:32pm
yes whats the price for one... i must get one lol they look good too... when they come out?


Posted By: noobtacular
Date Posted: 18 October 2005 at 6:35pm

hmm can you make it semi auto with some mods?? cuz i dont like pump that much, but i like the idea of a flaming paintball gun



Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 18 October 2005 at 6:36pm
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Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 18 October 2005 at 7:21pm
Is that a pump?

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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 18 October 2005 at 7:22pm

Originally posted by Justice Justice wrote:

Is that a pump?

It sure looks like it.



Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 18 October 2005 at 7:25pm
Originally posted by hybrid-sniper hybrid-sniper wrote:

Originally posted by Justice Justice wrote:

Is that a pump?

It sure looks like it.



Yeah I just read the add a lil better.. single action pump. Available now at tippmann dealers.

Well Ya got to hand to Tippmann.


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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 18 October 2005 at 7:28pm
Wait... I just realized... is this the "new gun" that's been rumored for what seems like forever?


Posted By: TippmanHotshot
Date Posted: 18 October 2005 at 8:11pm
Tippmann has a new gun? What is it?

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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 18 October 2005 at 8:12pm

Originally posted by TippmanHotshot TippmanHotshot wrote:

Tippmann has a new gun? What is it?



Posted By: noobtacular
Date Posted: 18 October 2005 at 8:12pm
Where i buy lol i want i want...


Posted By: shadow ace
Date Posted: 18 October 2005 at 8:13pm
looks friggin sweet

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Posted By: TippmanHotshot
Date Posted: 18 October 2005 at 8:15pm
^^^It's a joke, don't you get it?^^^

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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 18 October 2005 at 8:35pm

Originally posted by TippmanHotshot TippmanHotshot wrote:

^^^It's a joke, don't you get it?^^^

Sorry, but I have noticed people are stupid. I take everything seriously unless there is reason not to.



Posted By: benttwig33
Date Posted: 18 October 2005 at 8:42pm
If its real, I would get one soley for 50,00 shots a tank

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Posted By: TippmanHotshot
Date Posted: 18 October 2005 at 8:55pm
^^^Hahahahahahahaha, good joke^^^ (I think)

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Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 18 October 2005 at 9:26pm
Well unless it is shown on the flash movies that I cant view (thanks quicktime, I need to uninstall that apple junk) I dont see it on the main Tippmann site, and that seems really odd dont ya think?

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Posted By: custom pro
Date Posted: 18 October 2005 at 9:31pm
Will propane freeze your gun, like co2 will, if u shoot to fast? Cause i though propane was freezing cold when it comes out.

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Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 18 October 2005 at 9:36pm
If you could shoot a pump fast enough and accurate you are GOD! So I dought it would freeze, right?

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Posted By: TheBat
Date Posted: 18 October 2005 at 10:07pm

For those who are wondering, c3h8 is propane, hence the c3

it runs off the same principles as co2, its expanding gas. no, theres no combustion...so the flamethrower idea is still in effect :p



Posted By: Sargent Duck
Date Posted: 18 October 2005 at 10:13pm
I hope this isn't their high end marker that all the rumors are talking about.

Propane? where'd ya get it filled at? Something tells me local paintball fields won't start carrying propane tanks (although I'm sure you could siphon some off from the barbeque tank).

Anyone wanna tell me the advantages of using propane over air?


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Posted By: TRAVELER
Date Posted: 18 October 2005 at 10:17pm
It seems to use standard disposable propane canisters, like the ones you thread onto lanterns and portable camp stoves. You'll find them roughly three aisles away from the paintball aisle at walmart. 

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Posted By: Sargent Duck
Date Posted: 18 October 2005 at 10:26pm
Oh, well that ain't to bad. But I hope you'd get a lot out of them. Could become expensive after a while, espicially if your friends get their scuba filled up for free at the local firehall.

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Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 18 October 2005 at 10:43pm
50,000 shots from a 16oz tank seems like enough to me. I'm not sure if I've fired that many in my paintball career. I wonder what the stock accuracy is with that barrel? I've heard it gets hot after about 25 shots, I bet that's why the barrel is composite, so people don't burn themselves. Anyways, I hope it does indeed have interchangable barrels so I can get an aftermarket one(I don't have much faith in tippmann's stock barrel) I think I'm used to real firearms enough to avoid burning myself on a metal barrel.


Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 18 October 2005 at 11:08pm
Some thoughts:

  • If it's a pump, why worry that much about how many shots the tank holds (it's not like you'll be shooting all that fast)
  • Having worked with propane on camper shells, I know that you have to be careful with the tanks to not allow any liquid propane to get into the system because it can gum up stove valves-this marker could have similar problems if stored incorrectly
  • I'd also be careful only to install/uninstall tanks outside and away from smokers, open flames, etc.
  • New Tippmann C3-Just add rednecks, campfires, and beer "Hey there Billy-Joe-Jim-Bob; hold muh PBR and watch this."


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Posted By: pb125
Date Posted: 19 October 2005 at 12:59am
Originally posted by hybrid-sniper hybrid-sniper wrote:

Wait... I just realized... is this the "new gun" that's been rumored for what seems like forever?


*Sigh*

It seems so.


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Posted By: RedLion56
Date Posted: 19 October 2005 at 11:13am
Originally posted by custom pro custom pro wrote:

Will propane freeze your gun, like co2 will, if u shoot to fast? Cause i though propane was freezing cold when it comes out.

Yes it may but it is probaly why it is only a pump so it wont bee too bad and not freez your hands
.......Can we get a price please ??????


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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 19 October 2005 at 12:42pm
MSRP $225

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Posted By: blue orchids
Date Posted: 19 October 2005 at 1:16pm

A pump is their new gun? Great, I was expecting a High-End marker.

The propane sounds good to me, i mean 50,000 shots



Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 19 October 2005 at 1:22pm
Tippmann would be crazy to make a high-end electro.... Being as they cater to the new players crowd.

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Posted By: Pickle
Date Posted: 19 October 2005 at 2:27pm


http://www.tippmann.com/product_guide/markerDetails.aspx?categoryid=4# - Tippmann Page about the C3

http://www.tippmann.com/pdfs/products/C3/c3manual.pdf - Manual

http://www.tippmann.com/c3_video_page/c3_1min.html - Demo video that I can't get to work on my work PC.

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Posted By: spudcrazy
Date Posted: 19 October 2005 at 2:39pm
Originally posted by TheBat TheBat wrote:

it runs off the same principles as co2, its expanding gas. no, theres no combustion...so the flamethrower idea is still in effect :p

There is combustion, why else would they have a spark plug?  (Tippmann Part #:TA07073)  See schematic in their manual...



Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 19 October 2005 at 2:53pm

Heh - people have been clamoring for Tippmann to make an electro.  Well there you go - an electro pump.

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Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 19 October 2005 at 3:03pm
electric, ewwwwwww. I'd rather have a hammer and flint. It's pump, so it won't please the people who wanted an electro, and it's electronic, so it won't please people wanting a fool-proof dependable pump.


Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 19 October 2005 at 3:57pm
From what Ive gathered, it uses combustion to compress a piston that forces the ball out the barrel. Sortof like the e-volt that uses a big solenoid to compress a gas piston.

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Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 19 October 2005 at 4:19pm
Looks like a nail gun. 

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Posted By: ninety8freak
Date Posted: 19 October 2005 at 5:31pm

50,000 shots is all you need......



Posted By: RedLion56
Date Posted: 20 October 2005 at 8:45am
Electric???? Why

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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 20 October 2005 at 8:58am
I guess it uses a battery to create a spark to ignite the propane...

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Posted By: boarder2k7
Date Posted: 20 October 2005 at 3:50pm
It would have been way better had they used a piezo-electric sparker. Then there would be no batteries.

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Posted By: PaulJ69
Date Posted: 20 October 2005 at 4:20pm
well i bet the batterys would faster than running out of propane...so start stocking up on tripple A's!!! lol


Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 20 October 2005 at 4:39pm
Originally posted by Justice Justice wrote:

Looks like a nail gun. 

Thats what it is basically and from look at the pic, it kinda reminds me of an old Black & Decker Power Drill.

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Posted By: RedLion56
Date Posted: 20 October 2005 at 5:35pm

"I guess it uses a battery to create a spark to ignite the propane..."

Well in my opinion it is a downside to the marker

but i was thinking could you fit one of these on http://www.backcountrygear.com/images/JetboilFuel.jpg - http://www.backcountrygear.com/images/JetboilFuel.jpg because it would be cool with a stock on it aswell and one that small will beable last about 4,000 shots



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Posted By: noobtacular
Date Posted: 21 October 2005 at 1:39pm

lol i dont think it ignites the propane :P from what i heard... the expanding propane propels the paintball...

But if it did use battery to ignite... why not just use the bolt thingys to make a spark lol... (the thingys that ignites bullet in gun) cuz that needs no bateries, and is much better^^



Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 21 October 2005 at 1:54pm
You guys need to do some reading. Goto the main tippmann page and click on the C3 and read up.

Allot of your questions and assumptions will be answered.


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Posted By: custom pro
Date Posted: 24 October 2005 at 3:00pm

yea

 



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Posted By: bigomondis105
Date Posted: 24 October 2005 at 3:15pm

a reason you cant use propane on you regular gun is because the C3 has a spark plug in it to ignite the propane. imagine if that went wrong, and you were playing rec ball in the fall in the woods, well i guess there would be a forest fire.

 

im kinda weary about this whole propane, spark plug thing.



Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 24 October 2005 at 3:39pm
Originally posted by boarder2k7 boarder2k7 wrote:

It would have been way better had they used a piezo-electric sparker. Then there would be no batteries.


Yeah and it would also have a 20 pound 1 inch long trigger pull.


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Posted By: Scotchbroth
Date Posted: 24 October 2005 at 8:14pm
Originally posted by noobtacular noobtacular wrote:

lol i dont think it ignites the propane :P from what i heard... the expanding propane propels the paintball...

But if it did use battery to ignite... why not just use the bolt thingys to make a spark lol... (the thingys that ignites bullet in gun) cuz that needs no bateries, and is much better^^

The "thingy" that ignites a bullet in a gun is a pin striking the back of the cartridge wich causes a chemical reaction with cordite then propells the projectile. you would need to use self propelled paintball cartridges for this idea to work.



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Posted By: bigomondis105
Date Posted: 25 October 2005 at 11:30am
if you read/look at the manual there is a spark plug.

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Posted By: bigomondis105
Date Posted: 25 October 2005 at 12:12pm

ya also looking at the manual there is an exhaust valve at the rear of the gun, also there is a warning that says "caution extremly flamable, explosion hazard, and carbon monoxide warning"

so with the exhaust valve by the persons face dont ya think that someone will eventually faint due to carbon monoxide inhalation?

 

this gun just doesnt seem safe



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Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 25 October 2005 at 2:39pm
Do you pass out from inhaling CO2 blow back? Don't worry about the exhaust.



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