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Topic: Inside the C3
Posted By: Enos Shenk
Subject: Inside the C3
Date Posted: 24 October 2005 at 10:00pm
Heres some pics for anyone interested in the guts of this thing.

Sorry I was an idiot and didnt take pictures of the actual guts guts...



http://www.takiweb.com/~killtippy/shi/c3/c3_1.jpg - http://www.takiweb.com/~killtippy/shi/c3/c3_1.jpg - KInda trying to show how it fits in your hand. Or something.


http://www.takiweb.com/~killtippy/shi/c3/c3_2.jpg - http://www.takiweb.com/~killtippy/shi/c3/c3_2.jpg - Size comparison to the 98


http://www.takiweb.com/~killtippy/shi/c3/c3_3.jpg - http://www.takiweb.com/~killtippy/shi/c3/c3_3.jpg - Looking iniside the weird bore-drop barrel. The back end is rough, but the actual bore of the barrel is very very smooth. You can also see the not-quite-adequete anti double feed.


http://www.takiweb.com/~killtippy/shi/c3/c3_4.jpg - http://www.takiweb.com/~killtippy/shi/c3/c3_4.jpg - The fuel injector valve, manual says its one of the main things to keep clean of gunk.


http://www.takiweb.com/~killtippy/shi/c3/c3_5.jpg - http://www.takiweb.com/~killtippy/shi/c3/c3_5.jpg - After opening the halves.


http://www.takiweb.com/~killtippy/shi/c3/c3_6.jpg - http://www.takiweb.com/~killtippy/shi/c3/c3_6.jpg - Its pretty idiot-proof. All the actual guts of the thing are locked up in the practically bulletproof chamber. The chamber is solid milled aluminum, very well made.

Now for info and stuff, copy/paste from my post on Tinkers Guild

Originally posted by The coolest Enos in the world The coolest Enos in the world wrote:


Ahoy guys,

Just got my C3 today from Tippmann, and of course the first thing I did was dissasemble it. I dont have any propane laying around, Ill have to hit up Meijer tommorow for a canister and a 200rd thing of paint.

Anyway, First impressions:

Its heavy. Not super unwieldly heavy, but definately a chunker. Theres a ton of composites used on this thing, but in my opinion the only part of it that feels "cheap" is the pump handle. Its really cruddy chinese-toy quality plastic. All the other plastics on the gun are very solid composites.

The only actual solid metal part of the gun is the combustion assembly. Its extremely well made, solid machined aluminum. Thats where 90% of the weight on the gun comes from, this thing is literally bomb-proof (no pun intended).

As for maintenance and such, it seems pretty well thought out. There is a fuel injector valve underneath the barrel that comes out with the removal of one snap ring. Basically a big cocker switch, the manual reccomends checking the o-rings for gunk and damage every so often. The guts of the firing chamber are fairly easy to get at as well. Removing the gigantic velocity screw from the back end allows you to slide the guts out the back. Again well machined aluminum.



Now functionality. I was figuring it used the combustion incidentally to compress a gas piston, and using that to fire the ball. Well, I was wrong. The propane combustion itself drives the ball. As I can tell the firing process is

User pulls the pump back, this clears the chamber of the gas from the previous shot. The pump stroke is about 1.5-2". On the final quarter inch or so, the pump arm buts up against the fuel injector valve (brass cylinder under the barrel, you can see it in the pictures). This allows a small burst of propane into the firing chamber.

When the user pushes the pump back, I believe (not 100% at all, the front end of the chamber is rather difficult to get apart) the fuel/air is mixed as it passes through the giant piston that the pump moves.

Trigger pull activates an electronic igniter, combustion. This is where it gets interesting, there is a spring-loaded plunger on the back end of the chamber that gets pushed back by the combustion, exposing the barrel pass-through. The velocity screw adjusts spring tension on this plunger, acting something like a mechanical dwell. The gasses from the combustion then directly propell the ball out of the barrel.






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Posted By: Bango
Date Posted: 24 October 2005 at 10:03pm
Nice, I didn't realize they were out for sale already. 

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Posted By: ninety8freak
Date Posted: 24 October 2005 at 10:12pm

wow, i want to see a vid before i get it....that gas reliability is too good to pass up.



Posted By: PlentifulBalls
Date Posted: 24 October 2005 at 10:13pm
Originally posted by Bango Bango wrote:

Nice, I didn't realize they were out for sale already. 


He didn't buy it. Courtesy of Tippmann Sports LLC.


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Posted By: spudcrazy
Date Posted: 24 October 2005 at 10:13pm
Dag on that thing looks bulky and heavy.  I wonder just how hot it gets when firing.  I saw the manual and it warns that it will get very warm when firing.


Posted By: Cheetos3254
Date Posted: 24 October 2005 at 10:15pm
man the C3 looks so tacky and old in all of the pics.
and the barrel looks like crap. But the insides look
nice and well put together so I guess its ok. I
didnt know it was electronic though?

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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 24 October 2005 at 10:15pm
so l33t. and let's just state this right now. Enos > Rambino

and i quote "<Enos> He got serial number 386, mine is 382"

we tossed a few ideas around in chat while enos was quoting the user manual. this might be a nice winter gun. 


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Posted By: Cheetos3254
Date Posted: 24 October 2005 at 10:17pm
Originally posted by High Voltage High Voltage wrote:

so l33t. and let's just state
this right now. Enos > Rambino

and i quote "<Enos> He got serial number 386, mine
is 382"

we tossed a few ideas around in chat while enos
was quoting the user manual. this might be a nice
winter gun. 

keep your hands nice and toasty

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Posted By: jrod1321
Date Posted: 24 October 2005 at 10:18pm
wait its made out of aluminum! doesnt aluminum produce a toxic gas when heated too high or burned...i thought thats why they dont make tanks out of the stuff

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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 24 October 2005 at 10:19pm
Sex


Posted By: spudcrazy
Date Posted: 24 October 2005 at 10:24pm

Originally posted by jrod1321 jrod1321 wrote:

wait its made out of aluminum! doesnt aluminum produce a toxic gas when heated too high or burned...i thought thats why they dont make tanks out of the stuff

Even though I don't like the idea of propane usage for a paintball marker, the combustion is so fast, there's little to no time for the aluminum to get hot enough to release any gas.  Even at high rates of fire (remember this is a pump), I very seriously doubt it'd get that hot, extremely warm, yes, hot NO.  They'd never be allowed to market it, if it did.  Even my spudguns, which have a lot bigger combustion than the C3, barely get warm to the touch.  It's barely enough to burn a potato.  It singes plastic bags (I use these for testing), but that's about it.



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Posted By: sneaky_sniper
Date Posted: 24 October 2005 at 10:47pm

Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Sex

i concur...

Wow... that has to be the ugliest gun i have ever seen...



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Posted By: Smitty
Date Posted: 24 October 2005 at 10:58pm
I personally have no desire to get this gun.  I think it'd be cool that you'll get more shots per tank with the Propane, but the size and look of the gun throws me off.  I'm actually getting ahn SL-68 II at the moment.  Can't wait, and I'll get pics posted when I get it.  Custom Painted and Modded by Tigman.  Great guy.  Sorry I haven't been around as much guys.  I've discovered that I actually do have a life!


Posted By: Roll Tide
Date Posted: 24 October 2005 at 10:58pm

For 50,000 shots, I could care less what it looked like.

I'm still a little confused on the point about how combustion actaully fires the paintball. Nevertheless, nice work Enos.



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Posted By: spudcrazy
Date Posted: 24 October 2005 at 11:14pm
I believe the combustion fires a piston, which in turn pushes the ball.  I could be wrong.  Do a search, there has been a lengthy discussion and educational session on the workings of the C3.


Posted By: Whazuuup!
Date Posted: 24 October 2005 at 11:25pm
Originally posted by spudcrazy spudcrazy wrote:

I believe the combustion fires a piston, which in turn pushes the ball.  I could be wrong.  Do a search, there has been a lengthy discussion and educational session on the workings of the C3.


Uhh, actually it's right in Enos' article there...

Man that thing is a beast!
I want to at least shoot it some time though, to see what it's like.
That's sweet that you got one early. Never sell it!



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Posted By: CIA356
Date Posted: 24 October 2005 at 11:33pm
What exactly is with that barrel it looks odd to say the least? What's it made of?

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Posted By: Roll Tide
Date Posted: 24 October 2005 at 11:35pm

Originally posted by CIA356 CIA356 wrote:

What exactly is with that barrel it looks odd to say the least? What's it made of?

"Composite"... aka plastic.



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Posted By: Kpoofs
Date Posted: 24 October 2005 at 11:43pm
Waitaminute...

the C-3 is electronic?!?!?1


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Posted By: meteora
Date Posted: 24 October 2005 at 11:43pm
Originally posted by Roll Tide Roll Tide wrote:

Originally posted by CIA356 CIA356 wrote:

What exactly is with that barrel it looks odd to say the least? What's it made of?

"Composite"... aka plastic.


that's so it doesnt melt from fireing 4bps


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Posted By: pb125
Date Posted: 24 October 2005 at 11:51pm
Originally posted by Kpoofs Kpoofs wrote:

Waitaminute...

the C-3 is electronic?!?!?1


It's a fricken pump.


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Posted By: spudcrazy
Date Posted: 24 October 2005 at 11:58pm

Originally posted by Whazuuup! Whazuuup! wrote:

Originally posted by spudcrazy spudcrazy wrote:

I believe the combustion fires a piston, which in turn pushes the ball.  I could be wrong.  Do a search, there has been a lengthy discussion and educational session on the workings of the C3.


Uhh, actually it's right in Enos' article there...

Man that thing is a beast!
I want to at least shoot it some time though, to see what it's like.
That's sweet that you got one early. Never sell it!

Oops..Dumb as me!!!



Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 25 October 2005 at 12:05am
Originally posted by pb125 pb125 wrote:

Originally posted by Kpoofs Kpoofs wrote:

Waitaminute...

the C-3 is electronic?!?!?1


It's a fricken pump.


heh heh... Children.

Ask yourself, How does a Car Start?  dur-dur-dur!  SPARK PLUGS.

Thats basically why the C3 has Electronics, to kind of.... "Ignite" the Energy that will be needed to propell the paintball.

I'm really suprised Tippmann didn't do this Earlier. The Design of this marker is pretty basic, and a 16.4oz Propane tank weighs about the same weight as 9oz. C02 tank except you get 10,000x more shots.


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Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 25 October 2005 at 12:24am
My little to do list:

The pump is LOUD. Since the pump handle is hollow, it makes a really loud CLACK sound when you pump. Gonna look into filling it with foam or something.

The link from the pump handle to the bolt is a little loose, and it rattles and makes noise. Gonna see if I can work out a way to silence it.



Yes, it is electronic. My first electro gun is a pump. Take that, speedballer kids.


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Posted By: Teh_Ninja
Date Posted: 25 October 2005 at 2:09am
Do you think propane has potential to be the new nitro? how long do you think till the semi version?


Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 25 October 2005 at 2:16am
@ Enos

I'm hoping to get mine soon. I'm trying to sell my Impulse and a few other things(X-box, etc..) to get some cash together soon.  I think I'm done with Speedball, I played Sunday and it was the worst time I've ever went paintballing before, and I've had my fair share of bad days... I'm hoping to go back to my Roots(woodsball(things so much simpler back then, heh.. when 250 paintballs would last me for hours))

Hopefully I'll have a good enough time with a C3 I wont wan't to go back to a Semi.


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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 25 October 2005 at 7:56am

I want one just to tinker with....

But 230 for a tinker toy isnt worth it for me, I dont make that much income.

Enos, is SHI going to make mods/upgrades for this thing?



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Posted By: Thompsonshooter
Date Posted: 25 October 2005 at 8:25am
Hey there,

New C-3 came yesterday

Before it left the box it got the nickname of Zippo. Comments were bantered about, wondering if we could hook it up to our Grill tank and shoot it all year, or if it would work on MAPP Gas (it does but it's dirty).

Went out to the shop and took the tank off of my torch and filled it with paint and took it outside.

1. LOUD
2. Works Nice
3. Velocity wandered from 275-375, Not happy about this!
4. Smells like propane grill.
5. Shoots better groups than the stock A-5

Fun toy to tinker with but I'd rather shoot my Custom Pro


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Posted By: Monk
Date Posted: 25 October 2005 at 8:53am
You have purdy hands.....


But seriously, my buying one now depends on the parts you can make for it.


Posted By: MuRdoc18
Date Posted: 25 October 2005 at 12:07pm

Is 230 the msrp or what, thats pretty expensive for a pump with a plastic barrel...


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Posted By: maroon out
Date Posted: 25 October 2005 at 12:32pm
Originally posted by Thompsonshooter Thompsonshooter wrote:

3. Velocity wandered from 275-375
5. Shoots better groups than the stock A-5


???

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Posted By: dmp4892
Date Posted: 25 October 2005 at 3:02pm
Quote I want one just to tinker with....

But 230 for a tinker toy isnt worth it for me


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Posted By: PB MISFIT
Date Posted: 25 October 2005 at 3:39pm
I hope you broke it when you took it apart.


Posted By: Project Irene
Date Posted: 25 October 2005 at 3:49pm

Originally posted by Enos Shenk Enos Shenk wrote:


Yes, it is electronic. My first electro gun is a pump. Take that, speedballer kids.

ROFL



Posted By: pbdude985
Date Posted: 25 October 2005 at 3:56pm
lol nice gun Enos i might be intrusted in getting one , nice 98 too.

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Posted By: seargeantjim
Date Posted: 25 October 2005 at 4:08pm
Id deffinitly wish they would have put some sort of a rail on it for scopes or red dots.... it would have given me much more interest. Although I would probally still buy it due to the whole propane deal is alot cheaper.


Posted By: paintbusta
Date Posted: 25 October 2005 at 4:43pm

sweetness

 



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Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 25 October 2005 at 5:22pm
Originally posted by seargeantjim seargeantjim wrote:

Id deffinitly wish they would have put some sort of a rail on it for scopes or red dots.... it would have given me much more interest. Although I would probally still buy it due to the whole propane deal is alot cheaper.


Im already working on a bolt-on rail.

Anyway I just hauled the thing outside and shot it. Its definately interesting.

Sounds like a .22, not at all the sound of any other paintgun. Its got more of a firearm rifle crack sound to it. Really cool.

I dont have a very big yard, but I was easily stacking the balls on the same spot at about 50 feet. The plastic barrel doesnt seem to be a problem or anything.

DEFINATELY smells like a grill after firing a few shots. Personally I thought it was really cool. Makes you think of steak and burgers.

I didnt notice it getting too hot, but I wasnt firing too fast. The back of the grip where the web of your thumb sits got warm, but it wasnt hot by any means.

I gotta tweak the reg a bit more then go out and really go to town on it. Ill try to get some video for you.


Oh and in case youre curious, I paid a whopping $2.17 for a propane tank at Target.





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Posted By: seargeantjim
Date Posted: 25 October 2005 at 5:28pm
Well, If I buy that gun, you have a GUARANTEED customer on that rail.... your so smart enos.... I envy you. hahha good work man!


Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 25 October 2005 at 5:34pm
Sign me up for a rail when you are done.  I'm definitely putting a scope on this baby.

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Posted By: kuhndog599
Date Posted: 25 October 2005 at 6:16pm

why does it have a battery in it

 



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Posted By: Roll Tide
Date Posted: 25 October 2005 at 6:22pm
Originally posted by kuhndog599 kuhndog599 wrote:

why does it have a battery in it

 

To provide electricity for the ignition of the propane.



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Posted By: tigman250
Date Posted: 25 October 2005 at 6:43pm

Enos, how does it "meter" the amount of Propane for the next shot? how long can you leave it cocked with a gas charge in it and it still fire? this would have to be affected by ball-barrel match, unless the propane charge does not contact the ball until fired. is that little wire thing the detent?? dang i would like one of these things but as stated earlier $230 is alot for something to play arround with! thanks for the pics and description, get that vid up!!!!



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Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 25 October 2005 at 7:06pm
Originally posted by tigman250 tigman250 wrote:

Enos, how does it "meter" the amount of Propane for the next shot? how long can you leave it cocked with a gas charge in it and it still fire? this would have to be affected by ball-barrel match, unless the propane charge does not contact the ball until fired. is that little wire thing the detent?? dang i would like one of these things but as stated earlier $230 is alot for something to play arround with! thanks for the pics and description, get that vid up!!!!



Its pretty clever. The propane is regulated, then it goes into the little brass valve under the barrel. When you pump it, the valve opens the gas source and closes off the LP hose to the back of the gun. Then when you pump back and the valve closes, the volume of propane inside the brass valve is all that is used for the shot. As you pump back forward the big plunger mixes the propane and air.

Its not in contact with the ball at all. Theres a piston in the rear with a big huge spring that gets forced back by the combustion, and exposes the port to the bolt.

Heres a pic of the actual guts of the thing:




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Posted By: Teh_Ninja
Date Posted: 25 October 2005 at 7:25pm
Its not gona be 230 guys...

theres a pre order on canadianpaintball.com for 239 cad. to put that in prespective an a-5 is 280, and a 98c is about 180-190 canadian


Posted By: dmp4892
Date Posted: 25 October 2005 at 7:28pm
Nice thread, maybe the thread to end all C3 threads.
I'm seriously considering picking up one of these if I have any money left over from my Prostock purchase.

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Posted By: tigman250
Date Posted: 25 October 2005 at 7:29pm
so lets see if i am getting this, the propane is metered by how much will fit between the 2 spools on the brass valve, then when you pump ahead it is channeled in front of the piston with 2 o-rings wich pushes it through the black thingy wich mixes the gas with air? pretty simple really. thanks again Enos

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Posted By: 636andy636
Date Posted: 25 October 2005 at 7:57pm
Originally posted by Teh_Ninja Teh_Ninja wrote:

Its not gona be 230 guys...

theres a pre order on canadianpaintball.com for 239 cad. to put that in
prespective an a-5 is 280, and a 98c is about 180-190 canadian



But with canadian paintball you will have to wait 500 years before you get it


Posted By: joetheman89
Date Posted: 26 October 2005 at 9:26pm
one question, what if you have a break, how do you take the barrel out to clean it? it looks like it is locked in, if u know wat i mean

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Posted By: Mr. Heckler
Date Posted: 26 October 2005 at 9:53pm
Enos, you da man. The pics explained it well. It is a beast. It looks huge cause of the combustion chamber.

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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 10:09pm

Bump

..I'm waiting on the arrival of mine as we speak.



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Posted By: Monk
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 10:11pm
Originally posted by Reb Cpl Reb Cpl wrote:

Bump

..I'm waiting on the arrival of mine as we speak.



The FBI will happen to monitor you package and think that it is a threat to national security.




Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 28 October 2005 at 7:57am
If it doesnt show up, I WILL be a threat to national security.

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Posted By: Bruce A. Frank
Date Posted: 28 October 2005 at 3:06pm

Originally posted by jrod1321 jrod1321 wrote:

wait its made out of aluminum! doesnt aluminum produce a toxic gas when heated too high or burned...i thought thats why they dont make tanks out of the stuff

Aluminum, toxic gas!!!??? I don't think so. Hmmm, let's see, watch out for that frying pan coated with Teflon. Oops, never mind, by the time the aluminum gets hot enough produce any kind of gas, the toxic fumes from the Teflon coating will have killed you!



Posted By: Bruce A. Frank
Date Posted: 28 October 2005 at 3:10pm

Enos,

Would the velocity be "souped up" if you substituted MAP in place of the standard propane? Experimenters want to know!



Posted By: Cheetos3254
Date Posted: 28 October 2005 at 6:02pm
Originally posted by joetheman89 joetheman89 wrote:

one question, what if you have a break, how do you take the barrel out to clean it? it looks like it is locked in, if u know wat i mean
Look at the 3rd picture

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Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 28 October 2005 at 6:03pm
Originally posted by Bruce A. Frank Bruce A. Frank wrote:

Enos,

Would the velocity be "souped up" if you substituted MAP in place of the standard propane? Experimenters want to know!

lol - Toolman Tim is on the loose.    :)



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Posted By: tigman250
Date Posted: 28 October 2005 at 6:21pm
Originally posted by Bruce A. Frank Bruce A. Frank wrote:

Enos,

Would the velocity be "souped up" if you substituted MAP in place of the standard propane? Experimenters want to know!

that wouldn't be a good idea because the volume that the valve allows in is set for propane, use any other type of flamable gas and you would be asking for trouble!

BTW, Aluminum dosen't emit any toxic fumes when heated, i weld it every day and there is nothing wrong with me! /head twitches



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Posted By: jh1990
Date Posted: 29 October 2005 at 12:26am
isnt MAP like not clean burning


Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 29 October 2005 at 4:09am
Originally posted by joetheman89 joetheman89 wrote:

one question, what if you have a break, how do you take the barrel out to clean it? it looks like it is locked in, if u know wat i mean


You use a stick squeegee. I always liked them better anyway. The C3 comes with a straight shot stick squeegee instead of the little cheese cable squeegee that Tippmanns always used to come with.


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Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 29 October 2005 at 6:39pm
Thanks for the pics Mr. Enos

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Posted By: UV Halo
Date Posted: 29 October 2005 at 7:42pm
Enos- What exactly propells the ball down the barrel?  Is it the spring driven piston?


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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 29 October 2005 at 7:58pm
Originally posted by UV Halo UV Halo wrote:

Enos- What exactly propells the ball down the barrel? Is it the spring driven piston?

The first question is, did you read anything in this thread?


Posted By: c411m3b0b
Date Posted: 29 October 2005 at 9:20pm
all i can say is its freaking huge

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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 29 October 2005 at 9:33pm

Originally posted by c411m3b0b c411m3b0b wrote:

all i can say is its freaking huge

First gen stuff usually is. Note, the first computer, first cell phone, etc.



Posted By: jh1990
Date Posted: 29 October 2005 at 9:34pm

Originally posted by Teh_Ninja Teh_Ninja wrote:

Its not gona be 230 guys...

theres a pre order on canadianpaintball.com for 239 cad. to put that in prespective an a-5 is 280, and a 98c is about 180-190 canadian

 

Ive found a way better deal then at canadian paintball and it was in the us



Posted By: jh1990
Date Posted: 29 October 2005 at 9:34pm

Originally posted by UV Halo UV Halo wrote:

Enos- What exactly propells the ball down the barrel?  Is it the spring driven piston?

Yes the spring hits the paintball and causes it to go 310 fps



Posted By: jh1990
Date Posted: 29 October 2005 at 9:35pm
For all those idiots who will contradiciting me. I was joking.


Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 29 October 2005 at 10:24pm
Originally posted by hybrid-sniper hybrid-sniper wrote:

Originally posted by c411m3b0b c411m3b0b wrote:

all i can say is its freaking huge

First gen stuff usually is. Note, the first computer, first cell phone, etc.

Actually, it isn't that big.  It is only a little taller than my cocker, and is quite a bit shorter than the cocker.  It just has a very hefty feeling.  With a mini-tank and mini hopper it would be a very compact gun.

BTW - I was just talking to the manager of a field who is contemplating replacing his rental PGPs with C3s for their indoor pump game.  He did the math on CO2 savings, and the C3 easily won out.  And, of course, the C3 is much easier to operate than a PGP.  Any place that still runs pump-only games would have to take this seriously as a rental.  Which, of course, goes to the main point - if Tippmann can turn out a semi, it will instantly become the rental gun of choice EVERYWHERE.



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Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 30 October 2005 at 12:37am
only concern for indoor play is ventilation. Although it would take along time for the Carbon Monoxide to build up.

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Posted By: c411m3b0b
Date Posted: 30 October 2005 at 12:41am
Originally posted by Rambino Rambino wrote:

Originally posted by hybrid-sniper hybrid-sniper wrote:

Originally posted by c411m3b0b c411m3b0b wrote:

all i can say is its freaking huge

First gen stuff usually is. Note, the first computer, first cell phone, etc.

Actually, it isn't that big.  It is only a little taller than my cocker, and is quite a bit shorter than the cocker.  It just has a very hefty feeling.  With a mini-tank and mini hopper it would be a very compact gun.

BTW - I was just talking to the manager of a field who is contemplating replacing his rental PGPs with C3s for their indoor pump game.  He did the math on CO2 savings, and the C3 easily won out.  And, of course, the C3 is much easier to operate than a PGP.  Any place that still runs pump-only games would have to take this seriously as a rental.  Which, of course, goes to the main point - if Tippmann can turn out a semi, it will instantly become the rental gun of choice EVERYWHERE.

how dare you dissprove me

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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 30 October 2005 at 12:58am

Originally posted by The Guy The Guy wrote:

only concern for indoor play is ventilation. Although it would take along time for the Carbon Monoxide to build up.

Just think how much you would save on the heating bill!

:)

 



Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 30 October 2005 at 3:21pm

Ventilation shouldn't be a problem.

Any indoor arenas need to be fitted with proper ventilation in order for it to legally accomodate large groups of people. Carbon Monoxide wouldn't have time to build up with constant ventilation running.

I don't remember the exact building code specifications, but I worked for a guy over the summer who was mentioning something about ventilation regulations for the school I was employed for.

Of course, different states have different laws, but I think all of them should be adequite enough to accomodate the use of propane as a propellant.  



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Posted By: jh1990
Date Posted: 30 October 2005 at 5:32pm
would someone please post a vid of the c3 actually shooting


Posted By: hwayhzrd
Date Posted: 31 October 2005 at 8:02am

I officially nominate Enos for a Nobel Prize for paintball research



Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 31 October 2005 at 8:30am
Second

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Posted By: dirtbike14455
Date Posted: 31 October 2005 at 6:00pm
third


Posted By: btd450
Date Posted: 31 October 2005 at 9:00pm
what about that video?


Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 01 November 2005 at 11:09am
Originally posted by Rambino Rambino wrote:

Originally posted by hybrid-sniper hybrid-sniper wrote:

Originally posted by c411m3b0b c411m3b0b wrote:

all i can say is its freaking huge

First gen stuff usually is. Note, the first computer, first cell phone, etc.

Actually, it isn't that big.  It is only a little taller than my cocker, and is quite a bit shorter than the cocker.  It just has a very hefty feeling.  With a mini-tank and mini hopper it would be a very compact gun.

BTW - I was just talking to the manager of a field who is contemplating replacing his rental PGPs with C3s for their indoor pump game.  He did the math on CO2 savings, and the C3 easily won out.  And, of course, the C3 is much easier to operate than a PGP.  Any place that still runs pump-only games would have to take this seriously as a rental.  Which, of course, goes to the main point - if Tippmann can turn out a semi, it will instantly become the rental gun of choice EVERYWHERE.



Tippmann IS working on a Semi-Version of it, they said it may not be complete until Spetember-November of 06'


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Posted By: cadet_sergeant
Date Posted: 01 November 2005 at 12:08pm
i really cant wait to see what the after market is gonna do for this thing. i might sell my A-5 and ION to get one of these (good bye speedball), i will deffinatly put some money back in my pocket and save me even more down the road... i hope there is a good response from all the milisim on this... their has to be a shotgun if their i'll be disappointed. Enos any ideas other than all ready stated on what up grades are possable or need to be made.


Posted By: Bruce A. Frank
Date Posted: 01 November 2005 at 12:34pm

Originally posted by Panda Man Panda Man wrote:


Tippmann IS working on a Semi-Version of it, they said it may not be complete until Spetember-November of 06'

Not having a C-3 in my hands yet this is just more speculation, but converting the pump to a semi-auto, for experimental gratification, may be easy with something like a Palmer ram and a little plumbing.



Posted By: Project Irene
Date Posted: 01 November 2005 at 3:08pm

Originally posted by cadet_sergeant cadet_sergeant wrote:

... i hope there is a good response from all the milisim on this... their has to be a shotgun if their i'll be disappointed.

Oh snap, haven't thought of that.



Posted By: AdmiralSenn
Date Posted: 01 November 2005 at 5:11pm
I will also confirm the semi version. Spoke to a person on the phone about this, no release date but it is coming.



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Posted By: cadet_sergeant
Date Posted: 01 November 2005 at 5:17pm
man if the semi comes out at around $270 i might have to get it... hmmm should i still get the pump is the real question...


Posted By: bluemunky
Date Posted: 02 November 2005 at 9:48am
I think the first pic is to show size in relation to a hand. That thing is freaking ginourmous!

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Posted By: cadet_sergeant
Date Posted: 02 November 2005 at 10:14am
Originally posted by bluemunky bluemunky wrote:

I think the first pic is to show size in relation to a hand. That thing is freaking ginourmous!
someone said its about as tall as a impy (cant remember who, or where i read it) personaly i wouldnt put a hopper on top i'd be prone to use a warp or q-loader, but thats me many people would think thats retarded. 


Posted By: btd450
Date Posted: 02 November 2005 at 3:22pm
hm...confirmation of the semi version is making me rethink the C3.  Is it for sure that it will be released next fall, or is that just a guess?


Posted By: cadet_sergeant
Date Posted: 02 November 2005 at 8:38pm
hey Enos u got a proto type rail done yet? i got some ideas, i just dont have the tools to make it happen, maybe i'll try to make a picture on the computer of what my idea is. the only thing im worried about is how close the screws are to where the paintball/barrel goes; more so in the far back screw than the front two.


Posted By: littlebreadman
Date Posted: 09 November 2005 at 6:04pm
Originally posted by jrod1321 jrod1321 wrote:

wait its made out of aluminum! doesnt aluminum produce a toxic gas when heated too high or burned...i thought thats why they dont make tanks out of the stuff


tell me how would you aluminum weld then?


Posted By: shadow ace
Date Posted: 09 November 2005 at 6:38pm
that gun is so old looking but im thinkin about gettin one although i wanna wait for the semi(if there really is one)

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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 09 November 2005 at 7:03pm

Originally posted by littlebreadman littlebreadman wrote:

Originally posted by jrod1321 jrod1321 wrote:

wait its made out of aluminum! doesnt aluminum produce a toxic gas when heated too high or burned...i thought thats why they dont make tanks out of the stuff


tell me how would you aluminum weld then?

Cough Stick welding Cough



Posted By: tippmann_237
Date Posted: 04 December 2005 at 6:03pm

the only thing that i want to know is how good the accuracy is. so if some one can helf post it or send me a email at tippmann_237@hotmail



Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 05 December 2005 at 11:35am
From monkeying around with mine, I'm going to say that its as accurate as any other marker I've shot. There's no real difference. Its consistant thanks to the propane, and it shoots rather nicely. Kind of odd to not have a hamer slamming into anything though. Theres a different feel to it when you shoot it...I like it alot.  

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Posted By: human124
Date Posted: 05 December 2005 at 11:10pm

Screw paintballs. everyone says it smells like a grill... im just going to buy a bag of meatballs and start shoting everyone with them... anyone game?! LOL

But really how loud is this thing? louder then a co2 marker?



Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 06 December 2005 at 1:20am
Originally posted by human124 human124 wrote:

But really how loud is this thing? louder then a co2 marker?



Dry firing is ludicrously loud.

With paint I really think it sounds like a .22. It has a sharp crack to it, not the normal sound of a paintgun.


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Posted By: human124
Date Posted: 06 December 2005 at 1:28pm
Originally posted by Enos Shenk Enos Shenk wrote:

Originally posted by human124 human124 wrote:

But really how loud is this thing? louder then a co2 marker?



Dry firing is ludicrously loud.

With paint I really think it sounds like a .22. It has a sharp crack to it, not the normal sound of a paintgun.

yeah but some .22's sound like a cap gun and others sound stupid loud... mostly im a woods ball sniper anymore and im thinking it might be too loud



Posted By: *Stealth*
Date Posted: 06 December 2005 at 1:29pm
Originally posted by human124 human124 wrote:

Originally posted by Enos Shenk Enos Shenk wrote:

Originally posted by human124 human124 wrote:


But really how loud is this thing? louder then a co2 marker?


Dry firing is ludicrously loud. With paint I really think it sounds like a .22. It has a sharp crack to it, not the normal sound of a paintgun.


yeah but some .22's sound like a cap gun and others sound stupid loud... mostly im a woods ball sniper anymore and im thinking it might be too loud




NO, you are not a woodsball sniper.


Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 06 December 2005 at 2:24pm
Oh god. Why does EVERY post on this forum turn into a sniper debate.

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Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 06 December 2005 at 2:46pm

Indeed.  Let's not turn a perfectly good technical discussion into a moronic sniper debate.

Please - no more sniper yay/nay posts in this thread. 

Thank you.



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