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Topic: Meirs Quits
Posted By: .Ryan
Subject: Meirs Quits
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 9:44am
I guess she couldn't take the heat from the far right on top of the usual democractic skepticism....

Sucks though cause now he's gonna have to find some scary neo-con nazi type judge to appease his "base" and there's gonna be another Roberts fight but worse....nuclear option and all probably....


http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/10/27/miers.nominations/index.html - Link

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Posted By: Funky
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 10:10am
It's pronounced 'nucular'. Nucular.

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Posted By: reifidom
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 10:13am
Originally posted by Funky Funky wrote:

It's pronounced 'nucular'. Nucular.


I saw that bumper sticker: "Fine, I give up. It's 'Nucular'."

On the same car: "Democrats are sexy. Ever hear somebody comment on a hot piece of elephant?"

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Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 10:21am
^lol^

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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 11:51am
Wow. I hope Bush picks another woman.

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Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 11:53am

I was giving it 50/50 odds that Bush would force her to go down in flames in the Senate, although this is clearly the smarter political move.

It'll be very interesting to see who comes next.



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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 12:00pm
It did strike me as a little left field that she had no judge experience, just tons of legal experience.

I was waiting for my Californian Senator Diane Fienstien to rip Myers a new one on the issue of abortion. Oddly enough in my past I have hated that lady for taking away guns in California but I seem to have learn to respect here more and more over the past few years.

I would hope Bush picks a women outside his immediate homebase camp. I mean come on, how far did he look to appoint the white house legal attorney? Sure she might have made a great Supreme Justice but since she buckled I guess not.

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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 12:04pm
Anyone know Laura Bush's opinion on abortion? It is a little of topic, I know but it would be interesting to compare it to George's.

And since this is a political thread. How do you think will be the president first? A Democrat woman or Republican woman?

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Posted By: bluemunky
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 12:15pm
^Democrat.


Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 12:18pm

Nominating a Justice without judicial experience has plenty of precedent (like Justices Powell and Rehnquist), but has fallen into disfavor recently.  The larger question with Miers were her overall professional qualifications.  She has certainly had an impressive legal career, but so have many others.  For a Supreme Court Justice we hope for more than merely impressive.

Dunno on the abortion issue.

As to first female President - currently, the logical frontrunners (TMK) would be Hillary and Condy.  As between those two I think Hillary has a better chance.  I don't know of any other women considered serious contenders at this time.

In a more hypothetical context, my thought would be that the Democrats are much more likely to nominate a woman, which would make it more likely that the first female Prez would be Democrat.  On the other hand, I'm guessing that a Republican female nominee would have a better chance of getting elected.  This because women mostly vote Democrat, and if a significant number of female voters would cross party lines for gender loyalty, then the Republican female would stand to gain more than a Democrat.



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Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 12:35pm

BTW - my bets for next nominee, in order of likelihood:

Edith Brown Clement

Alice Batchelder

J. Michael Luttig



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Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 2:08pm
Don't know Mrs. Bush's opinion but didn't she used to be a Dem? I heard that somewhere...

Anyway, as far as the first woman president, it could be a Rep. Say Cheney gets indited, which is still somewhat possible, and he resigns. Unless I'm mistaken, which is also somewhat possible, Condi would be next up for VP. If she took that office and Bush died for some reason she'd be president. While all that is unlikely, it is possible. Bush and Co. is in there till 08, lots can happen in that amount of time....



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Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 2:11pm

I'd have to check, but I do not believe that the Secretary of State moves into the VP spot if the VP dies.  SecState is third in line, but that just means that she takes charge if GW and Cheney both die.  I believe that if the VP dies, GW appoints a new one, presumably with Senate approval.

Maybe somebody could check that...



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Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 2:18pm

Sorry for double post, but came across this fine quote.  Pretty cold-hearted.

"Let's move on," said Republican Sen. Trent Lott ( http://us.rd.yahoo.com/DailyNews/politics/news/ap/ap_on_go_su_co/miers_withdraws/16889019/*http://news.search.yahoo.com/search/news?fr=news-storylinks&p=%22Sen.%20Trent%20Lott%22&c=&n=20&yn=c&c=news&cs=nw - news , http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/capadv/bio/ap/ap_on_go_su_co/miers_withdraws/16889019/SIG=117i5dk2a/*http://yahoo.capwiz.com/y/bio/?id=342 - bio , http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/capadv/vote/ap/ap_on_go_su_co/miers_withdraws/16889019/SIG=11gl5mbmn/*http://yahoo.capwiz.com/y/bio/keyvotes/?id=342 - voting record ) of Mississippi. "In a month, who will remember the name Harriet Miers?"



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Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 2:26pm
http://www.fsmlaw.org/fsm/code/title02/T02_Ch01.htm - Found it


So the congress elects the VP....Learn something new everyday...but yeah there goes my theory...

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Posted By: Jim Paint
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 2:49pm
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Hillarys a woman?

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saepe fidelis


Posted By: Homer J
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 4:28pm
I thought the Speaker of the House would become the president if the VP died, was forced to resign, etc.

Who would want Dennis Hastert as president, though?

BTW:
When I first saw this thread, I thought the title was "Miers Quilts". I thought it had something to do with quilts.

And Funky, everyone's got it wrong. It's not "nuclear". It's not "nucular". It is, in fact, "noooklar."


Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 4:36pm
It would prolly end up being the House Majority Leader...with would suck.

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Posted By: TRAVELER
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 5:29pm
If being a woman weren't a requirement Bush's top choice would probably Miguel Estrada.

I would prefer Janice Rogers Brown, but that's not likely to happen.


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Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 5:34pm
Yeah, Janice Brown would be more likely to get filibustered than anybody else.

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Posted By: bluemunky
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 5:40pm
Originally posted by Jim Paint Jim Paint wrote:

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Hillarys a woman?

Yes...


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Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 6:24pm
Originally posted by Rambino Rambino wrote:

As to first female President - currently, the logical frontrunners (TMK) would be Hillary and Condy.  As between those two I think Hillary has a better chance.  I don't know of any other women considered serious contenders at this time


Can we vote for neither?

Id rather have bugs bunny as president.


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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 6:26pm
Originally posted by Enos Shenk Enos Shenk wrote:

Originally posted by Rambino Rambino wrote:

As to first female President - currently, the logical
frontrunners (TMK) would be Hillary and Condy. As between those
two I think Hillary has a better chance. I don't know of any
other women considered serious contenders at this time


Can we vote for neither?

Id rather have bugs bunny as president.


Condi kicked some lady out of her seat at the U2 concert here. Stayed for 4 songs, and left.

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Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 8:10pm

Originally posted by Enos Shenk Enos Shenk wrote:

Originally posted by Rambino Rambino wrote:

As to first female President - currently, the logical frontrunners (TMK) would be Hillary and Condy.  As between those two I think Hillary has a better chance.  I don't know of any other women considered serious contenders at this time


Can we vote for neither?

Id rather have bugs bunny as president.

Those wasklly tewowists



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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 8:13pm
I'm still waiting for the black president.

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Posted By: TRAVELER
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 9:06pm
That's why so many people think Condi will run, they can kill two birds with one stone.

Republicans will vote for her because they're terrified of Hillary, one third of the blacks will vote for her because she is black. Half the women will vote for her because she is a woman, and because many of them aren't fans of Hillary. The red states will vote for Condi because she hates gun control.

In a race between the 2 I would give the edge to Condi.

Janice Rogers Brown would likely be filibustered. It's a shame because no one has worked as hard or deserves the appointment as much as she does.

Democrats can count on the vote of downtrodden minorites only as long as they remain downtrodden. They don't need minorities like Condi Rice or Janice Rogers Brown inspiring others to get ahead through hard work and self determination.


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Posted By: Badsmitty
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 9:50pm

Bush is tapping Reverend Kane from Poltergeist 2 as his next choice.  He is conservative, has family values and a charming smile.



Posted By: Homer J
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 10:12pm
Originally posted by Tae Kwon Do Tae Kwon Do wrote:

Originally posted by Enos Shenk Enos Shenk wrote:

Originally posted by Rambino Rambino wrote:

As to first female President - currently, the logical frontrunners (TMK) would be Hillary and Condy. As between those two I think Hillary has a better chance. I don't know of any other women considered serious contenders at this time
Can we vote for neither?Id rather have bugs bunny as president.


Those wasklly tewowists


I guarantee the choices will suck in '08, too. I'll probably just write someone in, if I even vote.


Posted By: goodsmitty
Date Posted: 28 October 2005 at 11:32am

Although they are a little liberal for the mainstream neocon, I nominate The church lady:

Or Mola Ram:

Gollimah Shucktiday!



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Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 28 October 2005 at 12:19pm
Originally posted by Tae Kwon Do Tae Kwon Do wrote:

Originally posted by Enos Shenk Enos Shenk wrote:

Originally posted by Rambino Rambino wrote:

As to first female President - currently, the logical frontrunners (TMK) would be Hillary and Condy.  As between those two I think Hillary has a better chance.  I don't know of any other women considered serious contenders at this time
Can we vote for neither?Id rather have bugs bunny as president.


Those wasklly tewowists




LOL!!

Classic...


Anyway, I wouldn't be all that suprised if the Dems ran Hillary in 08. The Reps are bruning themselves so bad right now that just the fact that whoever the Reps put up will be at a disadvantage just because he's running as a Rep...Who knows though...The Dems have been pretty wussy in this whole thing so far so I wouldn't put it past them to lose again in 08. I then would not put it past myself to move to Austrailia....

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