Airsoft vs paintball
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Topic: Airsoft vs paintball
Posted By: kittyman
Subject: Airsoft vs paintball
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 8:05pm
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i heard about this game called airsoft its like replica bb guns that shoot plastic bbs sounds cool. but what do u think and why
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Posted By: SuzukiRider987
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 8:06pm
Paintball>Airsoft. And search next time. There was a thread 'bout this a coule weeks ago (maybe a month).
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Posted By: ninety8freak
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 8:36pm
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theres no comparison, actual thrills(paintball)> no thrill (airsoft)
these answers will be biased, your at a paintball forum
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Posted By: kuhndog599
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 8:42pm
jeez search. even though your new
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Posted By: Cheetos3254
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 8:57pm
Paintball is way better!
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Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 9:50pm
Beg to differ, with the greater accuracy and range of airsoft the game is more of a hunt, good tactics, and combat skills game, than the point and hope howitzer arc, spray down the woodline game,total luck game, paintball has become.
I am totally into airsoft, sold off most of my paintball gear, and enjoy the thrill and skill of airsoft. Not the wallyworld guns, the good AEG's, I own a TM M16A1VN 400fps accurate to 70m, hits at 100m, a TOP M-60STD 380fps 600rpm, TM M-14 350fps, again accurate at 70m hits out past 100m, as compared to 20m paintball guns.
Walking point, knowing that somewhere out there is someont that can hit you from 100m, pumps a lot more adreniline than any 20m spray fest.
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Posted By: commie_killer
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 10:59pm
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There's no way an airsoft gun will shoot 100m effectively.....they have
an effective range of about 65 ft and they are extremely prone to the
wind because of their weight....unless you play indoors or close
quarters stick with paintball.
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Posted By: kittyman
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 11:10pm
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i would rather airsoft than paintball even though i do love paintball also but no one airsofts out here and im not that rich paintball is cheap to get into but expensive in a long run and airsoft is vise- versa so ya i just stick to paintball cause everyone does it out hear and nobody i mean nobody airsofts and there is no airsoft stores.Airsoft is sweet cause of the mil-sim.
So if you wana get into paintball or airsoft and people airsoft where you live and you got 500 bucks go get a aeg and airsoft but if not be like me andjust paintball.
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Posted By: Teh_Ninja
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 11:14pm
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what the hell did you just say?
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Posted By: smiter
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 11:31pm
i have no idea
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 28 October 2005 at 12:30am
commie_killer wrote:
There's no way an airsoft gun will shoot 100m effectively.....they have
an effective range of about 65 ft and they are extremely prone to the
wind because of their weight |
Before you make such grand pronouncements you should try researching
the airsoft equipment that OS specifically mentioned in his post.
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Posted By: commie_killer
Date Posted: 28 October 2005 at 1:05am
I did, not to mention it's a simple matter of ballistics
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Posted By: P8ball3r
Date Posted: 28 October 2005 at 1:14am
Paintball is much better!!! Airsoft may have coll, realistic looking guns but way more people are into paintballing!
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Posted By: Gilaga_Demon
Date Posted: 28 October 2005 at 1:44am
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the reason i dont play airsoft is my dad and i dumped a few hudred into paintball equipment and didnt want to just give it up
we both like guns and were a little disapointed about the look of the paintball guns (until i joined the forum and got some sites like opsgear )
so we go to camps and just play campaigns and scenarios with our milsim guns
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Posted By: blue orchids
Date Posted: 28 October 2005 at 4:56am
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i tried airsoft at my friends field, its alright, not that good though
airsoft- 7/10
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Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 28 October 2005 at 8:08am
70m is effective, can hit at 100m. Using heavier .25/.32/.43gr BB's at higher than stock (stock 280-310fps vs modified up to 400fps, sniper rifles can go up to 450fps) accuracy and range is greater than your average wallyworld cheapo plastic airsoft gun shooting .12's at 240fps. My M-14 set up as a XM-21 Sniping System with highair chamber, 200% spring, shooting 450fps with .43's will punch paper at 100m, 6in shot groups, and I have hit opponants out to 125-130m.
The accuracy increase from .20g to .25g is in itself considerable. Full Infantry rifles (M16A1/2 M-14 etc)shoot further and more accurate than carbines (M-4's)and SMG's (MP5's), simple balistics.
8mm airsoft guns shoot even further.
Price is right too, 3750 .25g BB's @$11.00, just recharge battery after eash use, and you are good to go for a day, instead of @$60.00 plus for 2000 paintballs and up to $5.00 per fill. And my M16A1 complete with factory mods costs less than many stock hi-end paintmuskets, and you do not need to add every after market add on to make you "competitive".
Until you actually play airsoft with people who know and expierience the total difference, you can not judge, I too was an airsoft doubter till I fired a real AEG M16 and memories returned and my eyes were opened. Now like I said I am sold on airsoft, and my paintball gear went on ebay.
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Posted By: kuhndog599
Date Posted: 28 October 2005 at 8:12am
oldsoldier wrote:
70m is effective, can hit at 100m. Using heavier .25/.32/.43gr BB's at higher than stock (stock 280-310fps vs modified up to 400fps, sniper rifles can go up to 450fps) accuracy and range is greater than your average wallyworld cheapo plastic airsoft gun shooting .12's at 240fps.
The accuracy increase from .20g to .25g is in itself considerable. Full Infantry rifles (M16A1/2 M-14 etc)shoot further and more accurate than carbines (M-4's)and SMG's (MP5's), simple balistics.
8mm airsoft guns shoot even further.
Price is right too, 3750 .25g BB's @$11.00, just recharge battery after eash use, and you are good to go for a day, instead of @$60.00 plus for 2000 paintballs and up to $5.00 per fill. And my M16A1 complete with factory mods costs less than many stock hi-end paintmuskets, and you do not need to add every after market add on to make you "competitive".
Until you actually play airsoft with people who know and expierience the total difference, you can not judge, I too was an airsoft doubter till I fired a real AEG M16 and memories returned and my eyes were opened. Now like I said I am sold on airsoft, and my paintball gear went on ebay. | i know what this guys talking about. they shoot a lot harder and further than people think they do. 65ft is the crap guns you get for cheap (50 and below)
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Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 28 October 2005 at 11:18am
We played air soft back in the days I guess, but we called the guns BB-Guns.
Paintball > Airsoft.
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Posted By: ShortyBP
Date Posted: 28 October 2005 at 11:22am
oldsoldier wrote:
My M-14 set up as a XM-21 Sniping System with highair chamber, 200% spring, shooting 450fps with .43's will punch paper at 100m, 6in shot groups, and I have hit opponants out to 125-130m. | The kid with the WallyWorld equipment doesn't stand a chance against you and your God gun, Snipa.
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Posted By: spudcrazy
Date Posted: 28 October 2005 at 11:25am
Does airsoft hurt more or less when being hit? And is it MORE of an honor system than paintball, since the airsoft leaves no mark (or does it)? Just curious....
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Posted By: ShortyBP
Date Posted: 28 October 2005 at 11:39am
spudcrazy wrote:
Does airsoft hurt more or less when being hit? And is it MORE of an honor system than paintball, since the airsoft leaves no mark (or does it)? Just curious.... | Again, depends on equipment. 0.25/0.43g projectile traveling at 400fps? I'm sure you'll feel that one. :)
Definitely honor system, given no mark.
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Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 28 October 2005 at 12:31pm
You will know when hit, a real audible snap hitting your gear, and a real noticeable sting when hit on body.
That is where the Honor system comes in.
Actually impact energy of 6mm BB at 400fps is less than a .68 paintball at 290fps.
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Posted By: Picasso
Date Posted: 28 October 2005 at 12:46pm
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Honor System is a relative term. Is the glass half empty or half full?Paintballs leave a mark, but an Airsoft hit doesn't even need to be wiped. Cheaters are cheaters, they will subvert any system to their benefit. They would have a field day in airsoft, no ducking behind an object to wipe, simply keep playing on. And at 120metres, how can you see something the size of a pea hit someone?
Ask about chronoing?
Some Airsoft clubs are strict with chronoing, others don't pay it any attention, just as they don't pay attention to BB weight. So you can have someone with a 425FPS Airsoft gun, shooting heavy more accurate BBs, playing against someone else who is topped out at 250FPS with much lighter cheapo BBs. Is that a level playing field, or is it what you can afford?
It would be like making newbs in Paintball chrono down to 250fps while we keep ours at 285fps.
In paintball, regardless of gun cost, the Paintballs have a maximum weight, imposed by the industry, and everyone is required to chrono to the same speed. While Safety is the chief concern for Paintball chronoing, it also serves to level the playing field. In Paintball everyone has the same range. Flatlines being the only exception, however, a flatline pays a bit of a price in terminal velocity and "breakability" downrange.
ROF was considered , at one point, to cause paintball to be unfair, with HighSpeedToys having the advantage of massive suppressive fire, but, nowadays, it doesn't take much cash to buy a MalaysianFizzlesmasher2005 that can pump out a good 15 BPS consistantly. The ROF issues are pretty much dead in Paintball, these days.
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Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 28 October 2005 at 1:06pm
Our group has established rules and guidelines on chrono and weapon use.
Standard select fire guns limited to 400fps w/.20/25g BB's only , designated sniper guns 450fps, up to .43 bb's.
Before play a consensus is taken on level of play. If a new guy with an out of the box AEG at 280fps feels he can not compete we put him with another who can help him adapt and learn in the system. And if there are too many stock guns, we all change our springs down to stock.
Adapting these guns to a 400fps standard is inexpensive, the out of the box 270-310fps is based on the Japanese requirements, since the majority of the guns are of Japanese manufacture. Many American import companies are upgrading the guns to a 350-400fps standard for the US market before sale.
In talking with the players and groups from NE/IA/MO/MN, most endevour to keep the field level, and as the market adjusts and the 350-400fps gun become the norm, the field and market is leveling as the sport increases in popularity.
Remmember early in paintball we had the unlevel playing field of .68 and .62, 300fps for .68 and 250fps for .62, the pump, semi, auto issue. Took awhile before paintball leveled out too. Still wobbles up and down here and there.
Oh and Pic, never seen a look of remorse on your face as you take your $1000.00 God Gun and hose down some kid with his $60.00 brass eagle blendmaster 2000, so level what field?
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Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 28 October 2005 at 3:30pm
^ Airsoft still sucks compaired to paintball. So write another essay about how good you are.
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Posted By: Evil Elvis
Date Posted: 28 October 2005 at 5:16pm
I dont know OS, but in the Games we play with OMHW I havent seen any "arty arcs" and hope we hit someone. Maybee you need to hit the field more often with your team. I see the basic principles of Fire and Manuver, I see fluid movement in and out of the thick weeds. I seen us beat down paths in Snag vives and pricker bushes as I seen us run down roads to retake and reinforce positions.
I am sure them civilian kids with the wanna be rambo Gear wouldnt stand a chance against a real infantry squad. Same as no Newb would stand against a team as ours. So your comparison to all paintball players as undiciplined oafs who go arround hosing of the field is ignorant and really unwanted. For some one who was the "great sniper killer" I find it Ironic that now that you had some serrious surgery on yoru knees and found a new game all the sudden snipers a reality. that some how these small light weight BB's have made sniping posible.
Dont get me wrong, your my Team Mate and you always be and I love ya like a brotha. But enough is enough If you wanna make factual statements on paintball and Airsoft hey more power to you. But to sit here qouting off stats while sitting here making paintball seem like the sport of Oafs sorry brotha aint happening. Yoru preaching to the wrong Choir.
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Posted By: Xspyderman
Date Posted: 28 October 2005 at 5:22pm
Ain't there an Airsoft forum somewhere...
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Posted By: Nickodemus
Date Posted: 28 October 2005 at 5:45pm
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oldsoldier wrote:
The accuracy increase from .20g to .25g is in itself considerable. Full Infantry rifles (M16A1/2 M-14 etc)shoot further and more accurate than carbines (M-4's)and SMG's (MP5's), simple balistics. |
Are you talking about airsoft guns or real battle rifles and battle carbines? I wonder because going to a higher grain weight doesn't necessarily increase accuracy if it is the latter. Longer barreled higher power rifles have a velocity and bullet stabilization advantage, but the size and shape of the bullet plays a large part as well. Usually a bigger bullet has a higher drag coefficient and cross-section. For instance a Win .308 groups tighter then a .50BMG that has >5 times the bullet.
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Posted By: Picasso
Date Posted: 28 October 2005 at 5:48pm
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I've never paid $1000 for a paintgun, ever!
I'm just commenting on Airsoft, as it stands today. No standard rules, each club does their own thing. If Airsoft ever goes commercial, they will certainly have to chrono, or the level playing field will never happen.
If you are chroning everyone to the same speed, that is wonderful!A step toward paintball!
I do know that every PB game I've played, including private, everyone chronos to the same speed, and all set to semi mode. Of course the tippmann RTs get to shoot RT mode, and that exception I'll never understand.
My cocker, shoots slower than any Model 98, so I have no clue what your point is. The fact that I can move my slow big butt , up close, and still eliminate someone still defies logic. huh?
My gun must make me move faster.
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Posted By: Yomillio
Date Posted: 28 October 2005 at 5:58pm
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spudcrazy wrote:
Does airsoft hurt more or less when being hit? And is it MORE of an honor system than paintball, since the airsoft leaves no mark (or does it)? Just curious.... |
It is more of two different kinds of "hurt". Airsoft is similar to a bee sting. I have an airsoft gun that shoots around 275 fps, so im not talking with a difference of velosity. When your playing with wally-world airsoft guns, usually you can wear a sweatshirt and jeans and not really get shot up. This is also where paintball gets better than airsoft, considering airsoft relies much more on having honest opponents. Obviously, if your playing with 400 fps guns and heavier BB's, the honor system really doesnt matter anymore.
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Posted By: smiter
Date Posted: 28 October 2005 at 6:09pm
"Ain't there an Airsoft forum somewhere..."
If you wanna brag about how great airsoft is, go to your own forum, this
is for pantball
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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 28 October 2005 at 6:12pm
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I find both equally enjoyable.
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Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 28 October 2005 at 6:36pm
Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 28 October 2005 at 7:24pm
Since there is no reputible paintball in the OmaLincoln area, and the local shop/field will get 5-7 players ( the usual kids armed with daddy's credit card and every high tech POS available, and pallets of paint, speedball minded, and Im not into chasin and shooting from behind blow up dolls) per day per weekend, had to find something to do. Shop does not do anything to increase interest except sell everything way too high, and way overprice their field supplies (paint and air).
Here in OmaLincoln there is a more adult crowd into airsoft, every weekend we have 25plus, and a major event 50plus, so had to shift interest or go crazy.
Family still is paintball armed with one marker per for our annual OMHW outing. But game expenses and travel costs make decesions on hobby priority easy.
Just highlighting the differences in application within the game, and as with the early days of paintball bugs are being worked out to make it a profitable commercial venture.
Have to do what is avail instead of dreaming on what could be if it were a perfect world.
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