CONGRADULATIONS DENVER!!!!
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Topic: CONGRADULATIONS DENVER!!!!
Posted By: PyROphantasie
Subject: CONGRADULATIONS DENVER!!!!
Date Posted: 04 November 2005 at 1:01am
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http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-11-03-pot_x.htm discuss ------------- http://model98.org/"> 
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 04 November 2005 at 1:07am
| Like walking through an antique store. |
Posted By: PyROphantasie
Date Posted: 04 November 2005 at 1:22am
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thanks for the relevent input negative nancy
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 04 November 2005 at 1:25am
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Welcome to T and O, dummy. 113 percent irrelevance. Negative Ned. |
Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 04 November 2005 at 1:25am
| http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-11-03-pot_x.htm - http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-11-03-pot_x.htm |
Posted By: mbro
Date Posted: 04 November 2005 at 1:36am
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way to link good job to carbinefreak with the assist
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Posted By: NotDaveEllis
Date Posted: 04 November 2005 at 7:50am
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Federal Law > State Law > City Law
So in effect it means jack. |
Posted By: bluemunky
Date Posted: 04 November 2005 at 9:40am
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I heard about that earlier today. -------------  
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Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 04 November 2005 at 9:44am
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Just like the old Alaska private use law. And the problems therein.
Problem 1, You are on I-25 in Denver City Limits and a State Trooper pulls you over, does a consent search of your car(never say no or it will get worse) and finds you 1oz private use stash, you come under State Law not Denver City Ordinance, so lots of luck............. ------------- 
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Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 04 November 2005 at 12:26pm
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Those G4TV commercials are really funny though...lol..
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Posted By: PlentifulBalls
Date Posted: 04 November 2005 at 2:51pm
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Well as long as no Feds are around, I guess its ok.
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sporx wrote: well...ya i prolly will be a virgin till i'm at least 30. |
Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 04 November 2005 at 3:05pm
moral fo the story...stay off the highway... ------------- 
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oldsoldier wrote:Posted By: Hitman
Date Posted: 04 November 2005 at 3:08pm
A truckers life is the highway. ------------- |
Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 04 November 2005 at 3:11pm
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and how often do you see truckers pulled over and ticketed for weed?
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Posted By: bluemunky
Date Posted: 04 November 2005 at 3:14pm
Not to be a smartass, but what happened in Super Troopers does happen in real life... -------------
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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 04 November 2005 at 4:28pm
You go ahead and give up your rights, you patriot, you......I'll go ahead and exercise my right to lie my ass off and conceal my weapons and drugs! LOL I would have thought of anyone you would be the last to give up your rights.......I just don't get it. |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 04 November 2005 at 4:30pm
If you used your brain, you would know it means you can show the Chief of Denver police your brand new OZ of sticky, stanky AAA+ kind buds, and he can't do anything but ask for a nug! |
Posted By: General Bissell
Date Posted: 04 November 2005 at 9:03pm
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i really dont care about this subject anymore...why not legalize it and the government can make it safer and make money off of it |
Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 04 November 2005 at 9:24pm
Explain? |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 04 November 2005 at 10:24pm
Because we can't trust the government to be fair seeing as how they are so corrupt and greedy as a whole. They already have a new prescription drug being whorred out every other week, why waste all that cash flow from prescription drugs and pot arrests just to do the right thing? The government doesn't care about your health, that's why cigarettes and alcohol are totally avaialable and legal to almost anybody...it's not that the government cares if you die or live a horrible life, they just want to make sure they profit from it! |
Posted By: cdacda13
Date Posted: 05 November 2005 at 1:19am
They can regulate how much THC is in there, and make sure its not laced/ |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 05 November 2005 at 12:49pm
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^That's bad logic.
For one, laced weed is not very common....think about it. Why would a drug dealer sell some pot, one of the cheapest illegal drugs, laced with something that is WAY more expensive, for free?! They're not, drug dealers as a rule are going to be somewhat of a money-hungry, super-greedy type, so they're not gonna give someone drugs for free. Also, testing for THC is kinda hard, because there are so many factors that go into it.....there is more that goes into the high than just THC....either way I think marijuana has overwhelmingly proven itself to be a safe drug, there's no reason to get anyone involved to regulate it's safety, IMO. |
Posted By: Flogging_molly
Date Posted: 05 November 2005 at 1:48pm
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i dont think anyone laces pot on purpose. But i can see a drug dealer using an old coke bag to put some pot in. ------------- 
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Posted By: bluemunky
Date Posted: 05 November 2005 at 2:45pm
That's where you're wrong. A dealer laces weed with either better feeling drugs or severely addicting drugs, for A. because the better feeling stuff will make the drug cost more because of its quality, and B. the severely addicting stuff will make the addict want more of it, therefore making them come back again and again. In the end, the dealer wins. -------------
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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 05 November 2005 at 3:04pm
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^That's just not feasible.
For one, the appearance of the buds would just be off....MJ has THC glands/crystals that are pretty much unmistakable...they look like little individual mushroom heads. There's really nothing yo can lace it with that wouldn't either: -throw off the appearance so much as to make it obviously laced MJ -throw off the taste-smell-effects so much so that it's obvious it's laced MJ. Think about it....you're gonna sell a bag of weed for say $50. Instead of just selling the weed for the $50, you add in $10 of cocaine to hopefully get your customer hooked....so he's gonna come back and buy coke after buying weed? Or he's gonna keep buying weed which the dealer is gonna keep lacing for free? |
Posted By: ChefBoy RD
Date Posted: 05 November 2005 at 6:51pm
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Zesty wins the drug thread. Deal with it.
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Posted By: bluemunky
Date Posted: 05 November 2005 at 6:57pm
I speak from experience. I win. -------------
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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 05 November 2005 at 7:10pm
| I'm not saying you never smoked laced weed, that wouldn't surprise me...I'm just saying it's not at all common. |
Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 05 November 2005 at 7:42pm
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zing |
Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 05 November 2005 at 7:44pm
My god do I hate you. ------------- 
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Posted By: bluemunky
Date Posted: 05 November 2005 at 8:26pm
Hm. It must be a Maryland thing. -------------
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Posted By: Civilian Of
Date Posted: 05 November 2005 at 8:54pm
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And, it is only City law, like hwy said. You get pulled over by a state trooper, they more then likely will asign you with STATE charges. Also, FYI, you would be suprised to see how many truckers get pulled over here. Mountain roads are killer for trucks. 1-70 and 285, lots of speed traps. Basically the law is like a foundation for something bigger in the future. It shows State and Federal that people DO want this drug to be legalized. Cops here have been interviewed and actually are glad the law passed. Alot of room in the jails is taken up from people just smoking pot. Now they dont have to arrest everyone for getting high. Guess we'll see how it goes! |
Posted By: oreomann33
Date Posted: 05 November 2005 at 11:05pm
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If you buy laced weed you must be retarted. If it's enough to even be worried about you're going to notice it.
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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 06 November 2005 at 10:11am
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^Exactly.
And also, Civilian Of, just FYI, but hwayhzrd has not posted in this thread! You're either smoking some really good or really whack stuff!! LOL But honestly, a lot of you guys really don't get how big a deal this is. Yes it is still illegal federall and on the state level, but it's really not that big a deal...you guys really just don't have perspective....can the feds raid and charge you? Yes. Will they?.......unless you are doing something to try and profit from it, no! So for the average stoner in Denver, so long as you don't drive like an idiot on the highway or try and grow thousands and plants and tell everyone about it, you have essentially just had MJ legalized as far as the rest of your life knows it. yes there are still hurdles and hassles, but it is an overhwelmingly good thing for the stoners of that city. |
Posted By: Jim Paint
Date Posted: 06 November 2005 at 10:58am
Rosa Parks did a small thing, but it led on to some bigger stuff. ------------- 
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Posted By: PyROphantasie
Date Posted: 06 November 2005 at 2:34pm
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it's just a small step towards the overall legalization of marijuana
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Posted By: NotDaveEllis
Date Posted: 06 November 2005 at 2:37pm
Cali tried this awhile ago also. |
Posted By: Jim Paint
Date Posted: 06 November 2005 at 3:09pm
Did they get it (slightly)legalized? -------------
saepe fidelis |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 06 November 2005 at 3:14pm
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Cali State law says it is legal to have Mary J for Medicial purposes but the Supreme Court has ruled, it is still illegal at the federal level. So in theory no state police agency will arrest a card carrying toker but the DEA can bust down the door and arrest them whenever they please. ------------- 
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Posted By: epicpow
Date Posted: 06 November 2005 at 6:34pm
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Wow, just reading some of the crap on here makes me understand why the government is so reluctant to legalize marijuana. ------------- I complained I had no shoes. Until.....I met a man who had no feet. |
Posted By: Heres To You
Date Posted: 06 November 2005 at 7:10pm
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Honestly, if it's only allowed in Denver, and were all legal happy law
abiding citizens, who do you buy it from? I doubt they're going
to be many sellers that only have one ounce on them, and you know that. Plus, who grows it? If you grow a plant, thats well over one ounce, so no growing your own supply, legally that is... ------------- |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 06 November 2005 at 9:32pm
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The same people you bought from prior.
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Posted By: Civilian Of
Date Posted: 06 November 2005 at 11:07pm
My bad. I cant exactly say I have been sober this weekend. O wellll |
Posted By: PlentifulBalls
Date Posted: 06 November 2005 at 11:23pm
It was made illegal because of greed. -------------
sporx wrote: well...ya i prolly will be a virgin till i'm at least 30. |
Posted By: impulse!
Date Posted: 07 November 2005 at 10:03am
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It was made illegal too push the mexicans out of Texas. ------------- 
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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 07 November 2005 at 10:50am
at least you weren't sober! Nice. |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 07 November 2005 at 10:51am
It's illegal because the government makes exponentially more money that way. |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 07 November 2005 at 10:54am
Thats your mistake. Its from maryland. Dont get anything from baltimore, no matter what it is. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors"> 
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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 07 November 2005 at 3:21pm
| ^^haha, that's funny because the only things I've ever heard about Baltimore were not good! |
Posted By: Jim Paint
Date Posted: 07 November 2005 at 3:59pm
It was made illegal to force the Mexicans out of the West and blacks out of the East. -------------
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Posted By: bluemunky
Date Posted: 07 November 2005 at 4:08pm
You probably heard correctly, Baltimore City is an extremely dangerous place to live/be if you are in any way involved in drugs. -------------
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Posted By: bluemunky
Date Posted: 07 November 2005 at 4:10pm
Not always, have you ever heard of a strain called Low Ryder? It only grows 12"-36", hence the name, and produces roughly an ounce. -------------
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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 07 November 2005 at 6:59pm
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I'm surpiresed the Mods havn't said anything about all this drug talk. Low Ryder is some good stuff. ------------- 
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Posted By: bluemunky
Date Posted: 07 November 2005 at 7:25pm
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Indeed it is, but this will probably get locked soon.
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Posted By: Jim Paint
Date Posted: 07 November 2005 at 8:32pm
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Why would this be locked?
It's a good topic for debate. As long as we don't talk about prices and which paraphanelia would be best. -------------
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Posted By: bluemunky
Date Posted: 07 November 2005 at 8:38pm
I figured discussing the strains and amounts would be enough, but I guess you're right. My "tell a secret" thread got locked because of discussion of prices, so lets try to keep that part under wraps. -------------
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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 08 November 2005 at 1:40pm
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The yield is dependant a lot on the strain, but also on the technique used to grow it. You could take the same strain and use one technique to yield an ounce or less in a bit over 2 months, or you could take that same strain and make it produce a lot more, but it will take a lot more time and space.
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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 08 November 2005 at 6:22pm
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Zesty, what the hell are you talking about? -------------
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Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 08 November 2005 at 6:39pm
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I don't think Zesty should go any further into what he is talking about... ------------- [IMG]http://i38.tinypic.com/aag8s8.jpg"> |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 08 November 2005 at 7:05pm
| haha, I refuse to take the bait! My mind is the product of soft-drug use, and nothing that I say is to be taken seriously. |
Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 08 November 2005 at 7:23pm
| Still, Zesty, what the hell are you talking about. |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 09 November 2005 at 10:16am
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Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 09 November 2005 at 10:40am
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As mentioned before, I think this is enough discussion on this subject. Discussing the finer points of Denver municipal code enforcement is one thing; discussing the extraction details of illegal (by Federal law, regardless of Denver) drugs is something else entirely. Please redirect the questioning to a more appropriate subject matter. Thank you.
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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 09 November 2005 at 1:09pm
| Sorry about that, these guys rile me up on purpose.....thanks for the friendly warning, appreciated! |
Posted By: Unicorn
Date Posted: 10 November 2005 at 11:15am
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I think that it shouldbe legal, but it will cause problems of increased addiction probably. Yes, it like alcohol is a gateway drug. To an addict, a drug is a drug is a drug. Find some recovering addicts and ask them. Or go to some open Narcotics Anonymous meetings. Skip the AA ones as for some reason AA doesn't accept that all drugs, to include alcohol, are the same. Many adicts started on alcohol. Once the chemicals in the addicts brain have reacted (due to a couple of genes) they are hooked and they just need to find the one that works best for them. For my wife it was crack and heroin. She did't like meth too much, but she did do a lot of pills when that was all she could get. She had stopped the pot and alcohol though, just wasn't her thing once she found the "good" stuff. Anyone who says that drug use is a victim less crime is an idiot. The user is a victim, the user's family is a victim (and yes I'm biased. I came home from being deployed to the desert to find my wife wanted a divorce, then a couple days later that she was a crackhead. At least she's clean now.), anybody that is robbed or burgled by users to pay for their drugs is a victim. The last isn't just so called drug addicts, it's also the alcoholics that are bad off and need money for booze as well. Alcohol is just a legal drug after all.
I don't understand how the federal government can ban so many things. It took a contitutional ammendment to ban alcohol. How can they control other drugs so easily, and legally? |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 10 November 2005 at 11:38am
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I don't think the 18th Amendment was technically required to ban alcohol - I think it was done to make sure the next Congress didn't undo it (I could be wrong, perhaps somebody with more specific historical knowledge could confirm). The commerce clause of the constitution give Congress broad rights to regulate interstate commerce. Almost every federal out there relies on the commerce clause to some extent, since almost everything is "commerce", and virtually all commerce is interstate. This is the clause that gives the federal government the right to regulate drug policy. (sorry for vaguely related legal digression) |
Posted By: Bunkered
Date Posted: 25 November 2005 at 11:42am
I am a firm believer that if marijuana were legalized, hard-drug use would decrease, as well as alcoholism. Right now people get in trouble whether they smoke weed, do some coke, or eat some acid. If it was legal to smoke weed, and illegal to do other drugs, I think people would probably just stick with weed. I also believe that violent crime would be reduced, just like happened after Prohibition was repealed. My proposal would be to legalize possession of marijuana up to an ounce by anyone 19 years and older, but to keep growing and distribution illegal unless you obtain a license. Sorry to bump an old thread... But I felt the need to comment. ------------- 
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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 25 November 2005 at 1:16pm
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My friend said they allowed people to smoke weed without penalty at planetfest last saturday. -------------
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Posted By: Bunkered
Date Posted: 25 November 2005 at 1:26pm
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Yes, there are certain events where police look past drug use.
However, that is not nearly enough. Too long has the government lied about marijuana and discriminated against the culture who smoke it. People are regularly thrown in jail, fined, placed on probation, fired, and have their lives' messed up by the government and its propaganda machine. Decriminalization would be a large step forward. At least it would allow us to rejoin most of the world in being sensible on this issue. However, legalization will be the only true solution to the US Government's problem with marijuana. -------------
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Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 25 November 2005 at 1:28pm
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BIG BROTHER ES KEEPIN ME FROM MAH WEED!1! ZOMG ANGST! ------------- 
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 25 November 2005 at 1:29pm
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lol
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Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 25 November 2005 at 1:30pm
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Those people could have always, you know, not used an illegal narcotic. -------------
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 25 November 2005 at 1:33pm
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the real point is, sicne it's still illegal by federal law, if you use it and get caught/punished...deal. you were in the wrong to begin with.
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Posted By: Bunkered
Date Posted: 25 November 2005 at 1:43pm
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Ah...
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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 25 November 2005 at 4:30pm
Marijuana is illegal, we all know that! Well, federally anyways. 
What we are trying to discuss, is why it is illegal, when it has not been proven to be linked to anything worse than what tobacco and alcohol already are. It is treated like a terribly harmful drug, when all the unbiased studies tend to show that it is far safer than both alcohol and tobacco, which are allowed to be sold by the government. If the government's intent was to keep you from harmful substances, why have these 2, along with the various prescription drugs, which cause side effects ranging from bloody nose to stroke(!), remained avaialable? We have marijuana which is much safer than even the "safest" prescription drugs, much more so than alcohol and tobacco......yet prescription drugs, alcohol and tobacco are not looked down upon nearly as much as marijuana, and remain legal and readily available for the most part. Let's see, marijuana has been linked to zero deaths, and numerous health benefits....tobacco has zero health benefits and kills thousands yearly....alcohol has very minimal health benefits, kills thousands yearly directly and indirectly, yet remains legal....and I'm sure we've all seen dozens of prescription drug commercials in our lifetimes! All the while a safe, affordable, and amazingly beneficial plant/drug is kept out of the hands of the people that need it most. So yeah, it's too easy to say,"Well, it's illegal so it's bad."....thinking like that is fine for a preteen with no life experiences, but for people who want to delve into why things are the way they are, its a very interesting issue.....one that stems from corruption and greed, IMO. |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 25 November 2005 at 4:39pm
| "We should never forget that everything Adolf Hitler did in Germany was "legal" and everything the Hungarian freedom fighters did in Hungary was "illegal." It was "illegal" to aid and comfort a Jew in Hitler's Germany. Even so, I am sure that, had I lived in Germany at the time, I would have aided and comforted my Jewish brothers. If today I lived in a Communist country where certain principles dear to the Christian faith are suppressed, I would openly advocate disobeying that country's anti religious laws...." - Martin Luther King Junior |
Posted By: PlentifulBalls
Date Posted: 25 November 2005 at 4:39pm
Are you serious, how can you use that logic? You could say that to anyone fighting to change a law. Just because you think you are better than people who smoke pot doesn't mean you have to be an ass about it. -------------
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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 25 November 2005 at 4:43pm
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“I submit that an individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust and who willingly accepts the penalty of imprisonment in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the highest respect for the law.” - Martin Luther King Junior
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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 25 November 2005 at 4:44pm
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"one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws". - Martin Luther King Junior
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