diedonimpact wrote: double-feeding (beyond repair) and extreme chopping

Double feeding beyond repair? That's a new one. Beyond repair...hmmm.

You say that the velocity control screw was, not sure what you were saying, missing from the power tube? You replaced that and then found the marker had internal problems?

Who assessed these "internal problems"? First, now you didn't say you were using an after market hopper so I assume you are using the OEM gravity feed. For the grav feed to double feed requires somewhat significant failure, but easy to fix. They must have left the detent out of the marker during assembly! (at the same time they forgot to install the velocity screw?)

A detent costs a dollar or two at ANY paintball store that does service. If your marker is missing the detent it will likely feed more than one ball. It may feed more than two balls. With no detent one ball may feed and a second may partially feed as the bolt closes, causing the second ball to be chopped. Two may feed, and since there is nothing to prevent a third (except a restriction of the barrel throat, which may not be a restriction if the paint is small) from partially feeding and getting chopped as the bolt closes.

Now, on a new marker, when you discovered the velocity screw was missing you should have set aside the marker and returned it to the place of purchase as soon as possible. They should have installed the missing part at no charge or handed you a new marker.

If the store installed the missing velocity screw, and THEN you discovered the double feed problems you should have again returned the marker to the store. Told them the marker was defective and requested a (new) replacement. This is no skin off the store's nose as Tippmann stands behind the marker and would have replaced it to the store. At this point the store has failed in their obligation to a customer...I would get this problem resolved and then take my business elsewhere.

At this point your best bet may actually be returning the marker directly to Tippmann...with a letter of explanation (written a bit more clearly that you posted here) and the name, phone number and address of the dealer. Or, if you have the verbal finesse, return to the dealer, explain the sequence of problems and request that they replace the marker with new or return the marker, post haste, to Tippmann at no charge to you.

look im just going on what the EXPERT said no offense but why are you fighting me on this??

diedonimpact wrote: look im just going on what the EXPERT said no offense but why are you fighting me on this??

Who's fighting you? We are trying to point out that you may be getting jerked around and that there is recourse to have your maker repaired or replaced right NOW. Statements like  "beyond repair" and "extreme chopping" are not assessments one would expect to hear from an "expert" on a Tippmann. These markers are dirt simple which is why they are so durable and easy to fix. One does not have to be an expert to solve 99% of the "malfunctions" that occasionally happen with Tippmanns.

Ever hear stories of people taking their cars to the dealer and getting told that it's the thing-a-ma-bob-widget gone wrong and its not covered by standard warranty. You will either have to wait a month to get factory coverage of we'll fix it now for a couple a hundred bucks. The dealer doesn't want to fool with the customer...he might even get to extract a few more dollars by poor mouthing the product.

The value in buying from a local dealer is so that he can solve your problems if there are any. From the bogus service you are getting you should have bought on-line or bought a used marker off Ebay.

On second thought, maybe we are fighting you, because we know Tippmann products are top quality for the price you pay.

neocool00 wrote: When I got my 98 Custom last year, it was soaked in oil. I couldn't shoot a straight shot to save my life. I didn't realize it till I had gotten out on the field and had to strip it down and clean it. It came out of the box like that. It was so badly soaked that I had oil oozing out of the hand grip.

And I'll bet you that there was no rust. Funny, I have never bought a new firearm that did not require cleaning before first use. USUALLY there is excess oil all over the place. Good to hear that Tippmann follows such good shipping prep!