When is tippman going to release a semi auto propane powered marker? (if they do)

if they do come out with a semi auto one , it wont be for a while i think.  They still have to figure out how to keep the temperature down when useing propane.  I am sure they will figure it out , just sit tight.

They don't need to use blowback to reset anything.  The bolt could easily be reset with small battery-driven servos.  Other guns already do this.

The larger question is the priming mechanism - the pump action on the C3 does more than just move the bolt.  But the pump action is not heavy, just long - I'm thinking this could also be done electrically.  I could be wrong, but I don't think that's the problem.

We'll see...

I'm not sure how successful they're going to be in getting a propane marker that will empty the chamber of exhaust, recharge with gas, ignite the gas in there to propel the shot, then empty the exhaust again all within the space of the few nanoseconds that it takes to pull a trigger.

Im sure it CAN be done, I'm just dumbfounded as to HOW. Unless theres some kind of dual chamber system, but that would just make the thing HUGE.

Panda Man wrote: They have been working on it before the C3. It should be ready ready around Sept-Nov 2006

lol i hope ^^...

I wonder what itl look like... like was said above, might be big, but  who knows...

Sounds like they need a 4-stroke.

Otto cycle - Intake, compression, combustion, exhaust.

Tolgak wrote: They did it to get their concept on the market as soon as possible. To beat any others and have it available right away. And remember, most technology happens in baby steps. Just remember the airplane.

Baby steps with an Airplane???  If my memory serves me right the first people that tried to fly had to jump off a cliff ....  I'd call that "thinning the herd" than "baby steps" ....

ll Justin ss wrote: what price might it be??

There isn't any way of telling yet. It all depends on the type of work that goes into creating it. If its a very simple mechanism, which I doubt it CAN be, it shouldnt run more than 300 bucks. Given the prospective complexity of a semi-auto that runs off a flammable gas though, I'd say that you're looking at a significantly higher price.

Hell theres semi-auto gas powered nail guns. But they work much differantly, and with a "solenoid-like action."

Some replica reenactment machine guns use propane to create a very loud, bright flash, continuous full auto... dont know how they work though.

Theyll find a way just give it time.

Sargent Duck wrote: aGUYnamedLARRY wrote: No,  it'll be safe for some genious to make it semi-auto,  they just put out the pump firsy because it's a marketing gimmick. They want to sell all their pumps and then put out the semis and then everyone's gonna want the semi. Therefore they make twice the money You've never taken any sort of business course have you?

aGUYnamedLARRY doesn't need to take a business class to know this is true.  Just Follow Bill Gates' example... it is called planned obsolescence...

Planned obsolescence is the marketing strategy of deliberately introducing obsolescence into a product strategy. Obsolescence, in general, is the process of passing out of usefulness. In a business context this means the object is no longer perceived as having value, that is, a product is no longer wanted even though it is still in good working order. This can be contrasted with deterioration, which is a process of disintegration or degeneration. The difference is that obsolescence is a perception about the usefulness of an object whereas deterioration is a physical process. The two concepts are highly correlated, but neither is a sufficient or necessary condition of the other. That is, you can have obsolescence without deterioration, and you can have deterioration without obsolescence.

A lot of marker designs dont need to be cocked, they just need pressure. Look at AutoMags and their blow forward design. This similar design could easily be applied with propane, easily.

When all you twelve year old mechanical engineers get it figured out let me know... the Semi's comin'.  Watch and see.

Bill Gates did not invent Planned obsolescence.  He perfected it.  Some guy named Korg invented it like 25 million years ago.  The first wheels were actually hexagons, then octogons, then ovals, and finally after selling millions of the former, he progressed to selling the original planned product, ie: round wheels as we know them today.

A flaming paintball I would love to seet it. Just have some propane comin out of the tip light it and as the paintball shoots the gas shot through the barrel is lit causing it to catch fire. People would run in fear of the gun and paintball hitting you on fire or just a flaming paintball would be terrifying.

God this must be annyoing to read <Not any more it isnt>

Sight is only when there is light.

VTpaintballer wrote: so are these c3s any good?

Yes.