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Topic: Some people...
Posted By: bluemunky
Subject: Some people...
Date Posted: 12 November 2005 at 8:18pm
...are so ridiculously idiotic it makes me sick. http://www.courttv.com/news/2005/1110/harriton_ctv.html - Link And I wonder how she communicates with other people?

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Posted By: southernboy51
Date Posted: 12 November 2005 at 8:19pm
oh em gee


Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 12 November 2005 at 8:21pm
Hah! Excelent. And so many people claim that everyone deserves a chance at life and shouldnt be aborted. Here is living proof, that isnt the case always the case.

I find this very cool indeed.

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Posted By: bluemunky
Date Posted: 12 November 2005 at 8:23pm
Originally posted by Hades Hades wrote:

Hah! Excelent. And so many people claim that everyone deserves a chance at life and shouldnt be aborted. Here is living proof, that isnt the case always the case.

I find this very cool indeed.

LMAO


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Posted By: Apu
Date Posted: 12 November 2005 at 8:30pm
Originally posted by bluemunky bluemunky wrote:

...are so ridiculously idiotic it makes me sick. http://www.courttv.com/news/2005/1110/harriton_ctv.html - Link And I wonder how she communicates with other people?
Same way Helen Keller did?


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Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 12 November 2005 at 8:36pm
i could smash her face in with a baseball bat and give her brain damage... and when she's brain dead w/ machines keeping her alive and the docs wanna pull the feeding tube out there will be a huge ruckus and her family will want to keep her "alive".

hm... i hope this story lets me use my schiavowned! pic...


Posted By: bluemunky
Date Posted: 12 November 2005 at 8:37pm
Originally posted by Apu Apu wrote:

Originally posted by bluemunky bluemunky wrote:

...are so ridiculously idiotic it makes me sick. http://www.courttv.com/news/2005/1110/harriton_ctv.html - Link And I wonder how she communicates with other people?
Same way Helen Keller did?

And how was that? I never put much thought into this type of thing before. I don't even know what Hellen Keller was famous for, I originally thought she was popular because of her disabilities.


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Posted By: pbdude985
Date Posted: 12 November 2005 at 8:39pm
wow that is sad , basically i woud of killed you if i knew you were going to be like this.

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Posted By: >><<
Date Posted: 12 November 2005 at 8:41pm

I think some people just go around news sites on here just to find some interesting or stupid link about the news or the world just so they can post something moderatly interesting and half the time its stupid and pointless things.

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Posted By: bluemunky
Date Posted: 12 November 2005 at 8:48pm
Originally posted by >><< >><< wrote:

I think some people just go around news sites on here just to find some interesting or stupid link about the news or the world just so they can post something moderatly interesting and half the time its stupid and pointless things.

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I'm on that site (crime library) all the time, I find it interesting. I saw this, and found it bloody ridiculous. I thought others might want to join me in laughing at this woman.


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Posted By: _TT_
Date Posted: 12 November 2005 at 8:52pm
I am not laughing at her. I am applauding her efforts.

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Posted By: bluemunky
Date Posted: 12 November 2005 at 8:54pm
Come on, TT, she's suing a doctor for allowing her to be born...

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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 12 November 2005 at 9:07pm
She is suing because the doctor gave an incorrect medical diagnosis. Had the doctor gotten the diagnosis correct, the mother would have aborted the child and the girl would not be here today.

It would be as if the you went into your doctors office to be tested for cancer and he told you that you didnt have cancer that you had a cough. If it turns out you have cancer you can sue. So why should this girl be able to sue?

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Posted By: bluemunky
Date Posted: 12 November 2005 at 9:16pm
Oho, I misunderstood at first. My friend's grandfather had liver cancer and the doctor kept telling him it was nothing, that it would go away soon. It never went away, he died a few years ago. Blast those ignorant fools. I still think this woman is stupid though.

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Posted By: oreomann33
Date Posted: 12 November 2005 at 9:29pm
Doesn't seem that ridiculous to me.

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Posted By: bluemunky
Date Posted: 12 November 2005 at 9:32pm
What I don't get is, if she's really that disappointed with her life, why not do what thousands do and commit suicide? It seems much easier than all this lawsuit nonsense, the lawyers, the court rooms, etc. Not that I encourage it, but I just find it odd she didn't choose the easy way out.

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Posted By: Darur
Date Posted: 12 November 2005 at 9:55pm
Originally posted by bluemunky bluemunky wrote:

Originally posted by Apu Apu wrote:

Originally posted by bluemunky bluemunky wrote:

...are so ridiculously idiotic it makes me sick. http://www.courttv.com/news/2005/1110/harriton_ctv.html - Link And I wonder how she communicates with other people?
Same way Helen Keller did?

And how was that? I never put much thought into this type of thing before. I don't even know what Hellen Keller was famous for, I originally thought she was popular because of her disabilities.


She communicated through a special form of sign language.  Her teacher spoke to her by touching her hand in a certain way. 
 

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Posted By: Monk
Date Posted: 12 November 2005 at 10:03pm
Originally posted by Hades Hades wrote:

She is suing because the doctor gave an incorrect medical diagnosis. Had the doctor gotten the diagnosis correct, the mother would have aborted the child and the girl would not be here today.

It would be as if the you went into your doctors office to be tested for cancer and he told you that you didnt have cancer that you had a cough. If it turns out you have cancer you can sue. So why should this girl be able to sue?


Ok, thats why you get a second, maybe third opinion.
So that way you dont have to sue, making doctors insurance go up, making doctor visits even more expensive.


Posted By: Heres To You
Date Posted: 12 November 2005 at 10:49pm
Originally posted by Hades Hades wrote:

Hah! Excelent. And so many people claim that everyone deserves a chance at life and shouldnt be aborted. Here is living proof, that isnt the case always the case.

I find this very cool indeed.


How so?

I know plenty of healthy normal people who wish they wouldn't have born.  Does that mean the doctor should have aborted them to?

This story plays no role in any way to help pro-choice supporters.


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Posted By: A-5 Empire
Date Posted: 12 November 2005 at 10:50pm
Wow guys lets sit around and laugh at a disabled person. FUN.

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Posted By: Heres To You
Date Posted: 12 November 2005 at 10:55pm
So what if the doctor was incorrect?  Death is as close as you want it to be, so she wasn't aborted as a child?  A gun isn't that hard to attain.

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Posted By: Sammy
Date Posted: 12 November 2005 at 11:05pm
Originally posted by Monk Monk wrote:

Originally posted by Hades Hades wrote:

She is suing because the doctor gave an incorrect medical
diagnosis. Had the doctor gotten the diagnosis correct, the mother
would have aborted the child and the girl would not be here today.

It would be as if the you went into your doctors office to be
tested for cancer and he told you that you didnt have cancer that you
had a cough. If it turns out you have cancer you can sue. So why should
this girl be able to sue?


Ok, thats why you get a second, maybe third opinion.
So that way you dont have to sue, making doctors insurance go up, making doctor visits even more expensive.

Amen. It is to easy for doctors to be sued, more often than not they have the best of intentions and are just trying to help people. If this lady wishes she wasn't born, why doesn't she kill herself?

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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 12 November 2005 at 11:12pm
water hellen, water. no KEY HELLEN, KEY...

to answer sammy's question, greed is why she won't kill herself. cause if she does, then she can't get free money from suing the doctor.


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Posted By: PAINTBALL1
Date Posted: 12 November 2005 at 11:17pm
shes retarded,spastic,deaf,blind and whatever else is messed up. What good could she have with millions (most likely) of dollars? NOTHING. Her family on the other hand could enjoy a few kola's on the tree.

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Posted By: Boss_DJ
Date Posted: 13 November 2005 at 12:03am
Originally posted by bluemunky bluemunky wrote:

What I don't get is, if she's really that disappointed with her life, why not do what thousands do and commit suicide? It seems much easier than all this lawsuit nonsense, the lawyers, the court rooms, etc. Not that I encourage it, but I just find it odd she didn't choose the easy way out.


she wanted to make a difference i assume


Posted By: adioflip
Date Posted: 13 November 2005 at 2:07am
That is kind of harsh to just say she should kill herself though. I realy doubt she is even trying to make the case like someone befor me pointed out she realy can't do much with millions of dollors, so why bother, it is probly her mom, borther, or something of that nature makeing this lawsuit. While her on the other hand would probly be happy to Kill her self. But realy if so many people try suicide and live then how would someone this disabled do it? ohh and by the way how do you attempt Suicide and fail?


Posted By: bluemunky
Date Posted: 13 November 2005 at 8:59am
Originally posted by adioflip adioflip wrote:

ohh and by the way how do you attempt Suicide and fail?

You are either caught in the act and stopped, or it just doesn't work. For example, you jump out a 15 story building and are caught in the anti-jumper net on the 8th floor, or you jump from the 7th floor but don't die from the impact, stuff like that. Maybe the bullet in the gun won't fire properly, and you take it as a miracle.


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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 13 November 2005 at 1:23pm
Originally posted by Monk Monk wrote:


Ok, thats why you get a second, maybe third opinion.
So that way you dont have to sue, making doctors insurance go up, making doctor visits even more expensive.


Not many people get second and third opinions from their OBGYNs. Also who gets a second and third diagnosis when the first doctor tells them everything is okay?

The doctor made a mistake and needs to suffer the consiquences reguardless of how much it makes everyone else suffer. It is the doctors job to give correct diagnosis, if he doesnt he can be held liable.

Also why should this lady take her own life? It is the doctors mistake not hers. That is like saying all rape victims should have their genitals cut off because they were raped and not the persons actually commiting the rape.

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Posted By: Sammy
Date Posted: 13 November 2005 at 6:19pm
Originally posted by Hades Hades wrote:

Originally posted by Monk Monk wrote:


Ok, thats why you get a second, maybe third opinion.
So that way you dont have to sue, making doctors insurance go up, making doctor visits even more expensive.


Not many people get second and third opinions from their OBGYNs. Also who gets a second and third diagnosis when the first doctor tells them everything is okay?

The doctor made a mistake and needs to suffer the consiquences reguardless of how much it makes everyone else suffer. It is the doctors job to give correct diagnosis, if he doesnt he can be held liable.

Also why should this lady take her own life? It is the doctors mistake not hers. That is like saying all rape victims should have their genitals cut off because they were raped and not the persons actually commiting the rape.

If a person sued a doctor every time they made a slight incorrect diagnosis, we woulnd't have any doctors left! This is rather simple. She doesn't want to live, so she should kill herself.

Why can't a regular person sue a doctor and say that the doctor should have known he or she would be depressed and advise the mother of abortion?



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Posted By: Heres To You
Date Posted: 13 November 2005 at 9:07pm
Originally posted by Sammy Sammy wrote:

Originally posted by Hades Hades wrote:

Originally posted by Monk Monk wrote:


Ok, thats why you get a second, maybe third opinion.
So that way you dont have to sue, making doctors insurance go up, making doctor visits even more expensive.


Not many people get second and third opinions from their OBGYNs. Also who gets a second and third diagnosis when the first doctor tells them everything is okay?

The doctor made a mistake and needs to suffer the consiquences reguardless of how much it makes everyone else suffer. It is the doctors job to give correct diagnosis, if he doesnt he can be held liable.

Also why should this lady take her own life? It is the doctors mistake not hers. That is like saying all rape victims should have their genitals cut off because they were raped and not the persons actually commiting the rape.

If a person sued a doctor every time they made a slight incorrect diagnosis, we woulnd't have any doctors left! This is rather simple. She doesn't want to live, so she should kill herself.

Why can't a regular person sue a doctor and say that the doctor should have known he or she would be depressed and advise the mother of abortion?



Exactly, nobody is exactly perfect all the time, and If you can't realize that and get a second opinion, then don't sue.

Hades, I'm sure your a good driver, nearly flawless perhaps, but have you ever cut someone off.  It's a little mistake, but should your car and license be taken away.  I mean, after all, it wasn't your intent?


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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 13 November 2005 at 9:23pm
Originally posted by Sammy Sammy wrote:

If a person sued a doctor every time they made a slight incorrect diagnosis, we woulnd't have any doctors left! This is rather simple. She doesn't want to live, so she should kill herself.

Why can't a regular person sue a doctor and say that the doctor should have known he or she would be depressed and advise the mother of abortion?


I dont see this as a slightly incorrect diagnosis.
Originally posted by Article Article wrote:

"Mentally retarded, spastic, deaf and blind, is in need of constant round-the-clock care"


Doctors are being sued left and right for malpratice. Why do you think the insurance was invented in the first place?

And any regular person can sue anyone else as long as there is legal grounds to do so. The point of this case is that the mother was not told by the doctor that the infection she had during pregnancy could negatively affect the to-be child. Had the doctor informed her of that the mother would have had the abortion. It isnt the mothers fault her doctor didnt pay attention in his class and because he was a dolt she can sue him for it.

If everyone on this forum didnt want you to live, using your logic, does that mean you should also kill yourself?


Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 13 November 2005 at 9:27pm
Originally posted by Heres To You Heres To You wrote:


Hades, I'm sure your a good driver, nearly flawless erhaps, but have you ever cut someone off. It's a little mistake, but should your car and license be taken away. I mean, after all, it wasn't your intent?


If I was to cut someone off and a police officer saw it I would be ticketed regardless of my intentions. Also, if I cut someone off and it caused that person to have some sort of damage or injury caused, you bet they can sue me. I think having a mentally retarded, spastic, deaf and blind, child in need of constant round-the-clock care, is a heck of alot of damage. Why shouldnt the doctor have to pay for the medical and all other expenses of this child?


Posted By: impulse!
Date Posted: 13 November 2005 at 9:29pm

How did Helen Kellers parents punisher her?

Re-arrange her furniture



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Posted By: bluemunky
Date Posted: 13 November 2005 at 9:32pm
Originally posted by impulse! impulse! wrote:

How did Helen Kellers parents punisher her?

Re-arrange her furniture


SO old.
I don't think she should kill herself, I was just pointing out I was surprised she hadn't already.


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Posted By: Sammy
Date Posted: 13 November 2005 at 9:47pm
Originally posted by Hades Hades wrote:

Originally posted by Sammy Sammy wrote:

If a person sued a doctor every time they made a slight incorrect diagnosis, we woulnd't have any doctors left! This is rather simple. She doesn't want to live, so she should kill herself.

Why can't a regular person sue a doctor and say that the doctor should have known he or she would be depressed and advise the mother of abortion?


I dont see this as a slightly incorrect diagnosis.
Originally posted by Article Article wrote:

"Mentally retarded, spastic, deaf and blind, is in need of constant round-the-clock care"


Doctors are being sued left and right for malpratice. Why do you think the insurance was invented in the first place?

And any regular person can sue anyone else as long as there is legal grounds to do so. The point of this case is that the mother was not told by the doctor that the infection she had during pregnancy could negatively affect the to-be child. Had the doctor informed her of that the mother would have had the abortion. It isnt the mothers fault her doctor didnt pay attention in his class and because he was a dolt she can sue him for it.

If everyone on this forum didnt want you to live, using your logic, does that mean you should also kill yourself?

How can they prove she would have had an abortion if she had known her baby was going to be blind, deaf, and dumb?

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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 13 November 2005 at 9:53pm
Maybe she told everyone? Maybe she discussed it with her OBGYN? Maybe she did so with a previous possible child? Maybe she wrote in in her diary.

That isnt for us to decide that is for the courts to decide. Obviously she and her lawyer think there is enough evidence.

I am guessing the mother went into the doctors office and said, "If I am not perfectly healthly and my child will not be healthy when it is born, I want an abortion."



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